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Tatum

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  1. It's probably just continuity errors, but it's difficult to tell how many years/months have passed in Yellowstone years. If Beth crying to Jamie was in season 2 (the episode where they flashback to the mother's death and her cold treatment of Beth on the day she died), then Beth could have been 33 season 1. I don't remember what season that was, S1 or S2. Also, killing Rourke was pretty harsh considering they had zero evidence he was involved in all the hits. Even if Market Equities was involved, that doesn't mean Rourke necessarily had anything to do with it. But I guess doing anything John Dutton doesn't like is enough to damn him. Although, silver haired lady indicated she thought Market Equities was involved, so not sure if that will come out later this season or it was just a throwaway line and will never be mentioned again. The writing is all over the place this season.
  2. I believe they said in the first season that Lee was 38, Jamie was 36, and Beth was 34. Kayce's birth year was given in one of the episodes as like 1989 or 1990, which would have made him significantly younger than Beth and I think that was a screw up because in the flashback, Kayce and Beth appear to only be a few years apart. Maybe it was the second season they said Beth was 34? (It was the episode where Beth calls Jamie to come pick her up at some bar and Jamie says something like, go ahead and act like the only 34 year old on spring break, or something to that effect). I don't remember how Jamie's age came up but I think in the pilot Beth or Kayce said something about Lee being 38 and never having a girlfriend or a family because he was married to the Dutton ranch. I think John is supposed to be about mid 60s. He scoffed when Piper called him 50 something. Piper is probably supposed to be mid/late 30s because the actress is about the same age as the actress who plays Beth, who they recently said is 37 now. Rip told the two girls to do something in one scene, so they were actually helping with Rip's blessing. Whether they were actually getting paid or just given room and board is unknown. I can see getting rid of the people who can't do 100% of the duties, but Lloyd acting like an asshole is his own fault, not Laramie's.
  3. I remember reading the actress asked to be written off the show because she was up for some part on Disney and thought the Yellowstone connotation could cost her the job. Perhaps she didn't get the job anyways and wants back in? Doubtless she's someone else with whom Taylor Sheridan has some kind of personal connection. And I absolutely believe Monica could get jealous, if only because that character lives for reasons to be pissed off about something. She could get everything she asked for and she'd still find a way to bitch about something. This season has absolutely sucked so far. I think Taylor Sheridan only had enough material for 2 seasons, because 3 and 4 feels like a retread of season 2, only with a bunch of new characters added that basically just feel like scene fillers. If Piper Perabo is to become a series regular I am out. The character feels completely shoehorned in and the actress irritates me.
  4. I rewatched the flashback scenes from the pilot episode a bunch of times. (The scene with the pit, and the scene with the girl who is dragged, hung, and her throat slit, presumably to be cooked). On first watch, I just assumed it was the same girl, but it's pretty clearly not after a rewatch. I think the first girl is going to be a fake out- it's someone's nightmare, or delusion, or dark fantasy, not something that actually happened. The girl dragged and hung- I think that's going to be real. On first watch, I assumed it was a brunette. But watching it closely- her head is wet and bloody, but it could be a redhead/auburn colored. The girl hung is also very slim, like Jackie, and a lot of the girls they've shown are built differently. That said, I am still holding out hope Jackie is alive. I think (hope) some kind of showdown between adult Jackie and adult Shauna is coming. This would be interesting, but something tells me Shauna keeps tabs on all crash survivors. She may not know exactly where adult Javi is at this moment, but I would think she would have known enough to know what he looked like as an adult. Plus, weird that Travis would go off grid and change his name if Javi was still alive. I guess he could be cutting himself off from Javi as well as anyone else since he did not seem very brotherly.
  5. Oh most definitely. I would say really attractive people are actually more often insecure than average looking people. A lot of times, it's their currency, and no one stays young and hot forever. Even for beautiful celebrities in their 40s, the media has to add the quantifier of how great they look "for their age". Not saying a beautiful woman can't also be smart, talented, or whatever, just that most of the breaks they are going to get in life (ie things they were just given, not earned) and most of the attention is going to be focused on her looks. Even when she achieves something significant, her looks are going to be the first (and sometimes only) thing people notice about her.
  6. I’m pretty sure the girl in the pit is not Jackie. They were careful not to show too much of the girl, but a few people on Reddit screenshot what they could find and compared to all the actresses trying to identify which girl it was. This is NOT a spoiler (speculation only) but a Reddit poster said the girl most strongly resembles I’m not sold on this theory but the side by side comparisons of the girls are similar.
  7. They did go to a bar that one night, when Jimmy ended up mouthing off to some guy and the guy cleaned his clock, and I think also beat up whoever happened to be with him (I think Ryan and Colby?). That was when Rip gathered up the guys and wanted them to beat the rival group to death and Walker said no. I think they do meet women but they probably don't usually bring them back to the bunkhouse. There's no fucking way I would ever go with one of those guys back to the Yellowstone bunkhouse, no matter how foxy I thought he was. I am not sure if the guys are allowed to sleep elsewhere. It seems they work 7 days a week so prob not. Ryan and Lloyd hate each other? Since when?
  8. Oh for sure there are more. Between Jackie, Van, Laura Lee, and Lottie- at least one of them has to be alive, and I am guessing most of them are. They are investing way too much time in the four girls to kill all of them off. Plus, it wouldn't be much of a reveal if the other survivors were just girls milling around in the background that never got any lines. I am not sure what's going on with the eye-less man. That was quite a lot of time dedicated to that for it just to be nothing but a red herring. I don't care if the show introduces supernatural elements or keeps it to realism, but they better not just drop that or write it off as crazy old lady who influenced Taissa. Ugh, one of my least favorite tropes ever in fiction- someone is desperately looking for someone else, and finds them dead, and very recently dead, like, if you had gone looking one day sooner you would have been able to talk to them. I don't see how Natalie looking could have prompted his murder/suicide since the only one who knew where she was headed was Misty. It was a very recent hanging, correct? I suppose someone could have been watching Travis and killed him once Misty and Natalie showed up looking for him? I don't think it was Taissa either. Natalie is far likelier to talk than Travis and Taissa hasn't had her killed. And she's had plenty of opportunities. Interesting that Natalie called Taissa her friend when talking to Misty.
  9. So, is Beth's former employer a publicly traded company, and Market Equities bought a large percentage of the shares? If so, Beth is a huge bitch to hold this grudge against Bob, because there is nothing he could have done to stop them. In fact, she should be apologizing to him since the fact that the company is under new ownership and management is her fault- she provoked them, not Bob. If they are a privately held company and Bob is the owner and willingly allowed it to be sold to Market Equities, sure, Beth could argue he stabbed her in the back, but he already got his large payout and being eliminated as CEO isn't going to hurt him financially (I mean yeah he won't get a salary, but he already got paid for the value of the company, nothing Beth can do to eliminate that payday). If it's a privately held company and Bob did not own it prior to Market Equities then again, nothing he could have done to prevent the sale. Not much point in getting into the weeds since Yellowstone doesn't really care to realistically depict how contract law and mergers/acquisitions work, but I don't see any way they can write this so Bob is at fault. You know, I liked Beth for about 2 seconds in season 2 when she plaintively asked John what they were going to tell her murdered assistant's parents (not as far as a cover story, but just genuine sadness that he was collateral damage), and of course John says he doesn't care, he only cares about Beth. And the poor murdered assistant and his devastated family is never mentioned again.
  10. Monica is my least favorite character, and on this show, that's saying something. She's just so sanctimonious and even though she's not hurting anyone or actively screwing them over, she's still kind of a bitch in general (always scowling at everyone and biting their heads off when they ask her a question or offer to help her). Is she still a teacher at the reservation school? Taylor Sheridan must really like Kelsey Asbille to risk the political heat of casting her in a Native American role in two different projects, particularly when both are meant to shed light on the mistreatment and marginalization of Native Americans. Although the actress did say she had some Cherokee ties which was later refuted. I think she's an okay actress but Monica is a horribly written character.
  11. He had a functional adoptive mother didn't he? I think she died when he was a teenager. If I remember right, one of his early kills was a neighborhood barking dog who was disrupting his mother's sleep while she was ill. Also, he wasn't planning on abandoning Harrison when he sent him off with Hannah in the final episode. He really thought he was going to meet them. Debra was recovering and Dexter was going to kill the last Big Bad and then meet up with Hannah and Harrison after. Then Debra took a sudden turn for the worse and became brain dead, and Dexter ultimately decided everyone was better off without him. I guess he sent Hannah a Dear Jane letter with a way to track him down if Harrison had a dark side. Hannah evidently never contacted him.
  12. Well adult Shauna's life does really suck. It appears she never went to Brown, or any college, and did not have any kind of career. Based on the wedding pictures, she married Jeff fairly soon after returning (I assume adult Shauna is 42-43, and was somewhere between 19 and 20 when she returned home, and was around 25 when she had her daughter). She has no friends, spends her days ironing and running errands, she and her husband are next to broke and seem to kind of despise each other. I can see why Shauna wasn't able to just slip into carefree college student mode when she returned, but you'd think she would blame the plane crash as derailing her life. Then again, in the pilot episode, Jessica said as much and Shauna got offended and said, you don't know anything about me.
  13. She's been in a fair amount of stuff. She plays the same character in everything. I am not sure why she delivers literally every line with this weird smirk on her face, but she totally does, no matter what the scene calls for. Very strange.
  14. Wait, WHAT?? Taylor Sheridan was an acting coach? That is...something I would not have guessed.
  15. So, we're almost halfway through the season and exactly nothing has happened, other than the introduction of a bunch of new subplots nobody asked for. Yes, great, Beth got her giant fuck you moment to her old boss. I really don't think he did anything that bad. And firing him as a CEO is not the worst thing that could happen to him and is not going to make him suffer eternally. Beth would kill herself just to give someone else a minor scar. I doubt the satisfaction of that moment would be worth getting into bed with Market Equities long term, but it's Beth, of course she'll come out on top. Please no more scenes with the Coyote Ugly actress. Her voice is so grating and it's virtually impossible for the actress to not smirk in every scene she's in. I have no idea how she's still getting acting jobs. And naturally John shuts her down with his quinoa comeback, and she's got nothing to say to that. No one is ever allowed to get the last word against Beth or John. I find her so irritating that I can't even enjoy her sacrificial lamb-ness when she comes across Beth in the kitchen next episode. Lloyd, really? Yes, the blond is pretty, and yes, it had probably been a long time before a young hot blond not only fucks you but does so in the bunkhouse in front of a dozen of your colleagues, and that's not likely to happen again, but come on, you barely knew her. Let this grudge go. I'm so disgusted with Beth and Rip keeping the kid in a barn closet, and Rip calling him "Boy". So unnecessary. He's trying really hard and they just treat him like shit. Word to whoever pointed out that Beth is totally treating Carter like the way a spoiled kid treats a dog that's no longer a novelty to her. And I know Rip thinks John Dutton is god and the Dutton Ranch is heaven on earth, and you should be so lucky to not only get to work there but be called to do John's dirty work of bullying and murder that you do it without question, but Walker is not a bad guy because he doesn't want to beat rival ranch hands to death on Rip's say so, or whatever else he refused to do that Rip took so personally. Rip and Beth are awful people. John comes across as a little better, but he has manipulated both of them since a young age and he is directly responsible for how they both turned out as adults. Let's not forget that John has hinted more than once that he does hold Beth responsible for the death of her mother but loves her anyways. That's a hell of a lot to put on someone.
  16. Dexter killed him as an adult because he tried to kill Deb, I believe. He pretended to be in love with Deb and wanted Dexter to participate in killing her. I think he was jealous because Deb wasn't his "real sister". Doakes was killed in an explosion in the TV series. He lives in the book, but he would have been better off dead. He's tortured and disfigured by one of the the book killers, can't remember who. I think he was following Dexter in both the show and the book and was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Dexter felt bad in both cases about what happened to Doakes. I don't remember this, but I guess Lila (Dexter's crazy fan/side piece) purposely trapped Doakes in the burning building so he wouldn't come after Dexter. Then once he was dead Dexter decided to make lemons out of lemonade and frame him for a lot of Dexter's murders. I think Angel is still fine? Deb killed La Guerta because she was about to expose Dexter. Deb never forgave herself or Dexter for that.
  17. That's what I don't get. We've seen two young women now who just appeared in town, and both talk about taking buses back out. So like, how did they end up there in the first place? What was their point in coming? It appears both women hopped on a bus, got off in Dexter's town, with next to no money, no place to stay, and not knowing a single person there. Maybe we are supposed to assume that these girls are from towns which do not have buses to anywhere but Iron Lake? So they would have to at least pass through Iron Lake, maybe for an extended period of time, before they can catch the next bus on to their final destination? That's pretty far fetched, but I suppose it's not worse than the chief of police just shrugging her shoulders over a stabbing incident and saying, the new kid says it happened this way, so that must be true, despite a ton of evidence to the contrary. Case closed.
  18. And how did these women get on the bulletin anyways? The pictures (and the potential victims) appear to be a mix of local Native American women and non local Caucasian young women classified as runaways. So...they ran away from home, spent a night or two in Iron Lake, disappeared again, and...went up on Angela's bulletin? How would she even know about them then? Is she just combing nearby jurisdictions for missing young women and throwing them up on her board? They had years to come up with some kind of logical storyline and subplots and everything just feels really slapped together. Let's focus on the poor media coverage of missing/exploited non white women! Let's focus on Dexter's son being evil (or is he?)! Let's have Dexter take on another serial killer! let's give Dexter a romance with someone who will eventually suspect him! (well that may be hoping for too much). For the last one, Rita, who I think was comically oblivious to most things, had more critical thinking skills than Angela.
  19. Yeah even before this episode I found Harrison's scenes painful to watch. All the teenage characters come across as super obnoxious. Audrey is just as bad although she's clearly supposed to be the moral beacon of this crowd. I assume there is a reservation nearby the town which is where the killer is getting some of his victims (this show is veering into Yellowstone/Taylor Sheridan territory regarding unreported violence against Native American women), but not sure how so many runaways from other areas wind up in this little town. There's like 30+ missing young women.
  20. Yeah, that would make Harrison a little less cruel. I do think Ethan truly did have weapons in his room, and from the pictures, this included at least 3-4 firearms. I don't think it's very likely Harrison would have been able to do that. That is quite the contrivance that Harrison would have been able to steal all those items from Ethan's dad and hide them around Ethan's room without anyone noticing.
  21. I thought the first season of Dexter was a little slow, but the series hit its stride in Seasons 2 and 3. I agree with the poster from the first page that 4 and 5 (up until the 5th season finale) were the best. I used to watch the show as it was airing live and I remember frantically looking at the clock and dreading 9 pm because I knew the show was about to end on a cliffhanger. Season 5 was set to be the most intriguing season of a show ever and the finale was the most disappointing thing I've ever seen. The forums were full of all these interesting speculative twists about who the real bad guy was, and nope, there were no twists. Just a bad guy who once again seriously underestimates Dexter and takes way too long to kill his victim, naturally giving Dexter a lot of time to come in and save the day. Season 6 sucked and the series never got better. I did read on Reddit that Season 5 towards the end was actually hastily rewritten on the fly, because Julia Stiles was supposed to become a series regular and was written off the show due to her and Michael C. Hall having a thing while he was still married to Jennifer Carpenter. I haven't read anything besides that that confirms this but it would make a lot of sense as the show seriously went sideways and Michael C. Hall and Jennifer Carpenter did break up around that time.
  22. I am not sure I think Caldwell is the one kidnapping and killing the women. While things don't look great for the blue haired runaway, Caldwell gave her money for a bus fare home. He offered her a job. When he said, "I can't keep giving you money"...it seemed like he was trying to relive his talks with Matt, only making better choices as a parent. Perhaps he was merely grooming her to gain her trust, but I just don't see Caldwell as the Big Bad. ETA: The most recently killed girl said she had to make sure she had enough money leftover for bus fare the next morning. The blue haired girl said she needed bus fare to get home (although she didn't buy a ticket when she did get money). How are all these girls winding up in Iron Lake in the first place? Who, when they're down to their last few dollars, decides to get off the bus in this tiny town, for the sole purpose of having to wait around for a bus to take them out of town a day or two later? This storyline does not make sense. It does not appear that the town is near any large cities, so how are these girls even winding up in town long enough to catch the serial killer's eye? On another note, Caldwell seems suspicious of both Dexter and Harrison. I understand why Dexter has pinged his radar, but not sure about Harrison. It's possible he was just using the situation with Harrison as an opportunity to needle Dexter, but something about the way he was going on and on about how great Harrison was- it seemed like he was actually mocking him. I don't think Caldwell truly thinks Harrison is a hero.
  23. How much did Harrison truly frame Ethan? I mean, I realize he stabbed Ethan first and then himself, but those pictures Ethan drew were real...was the kill list real? Also, assume Ethan did stash weapons in his room, pilfered from his dad's collections. Not at all defending Harrison but is it possible a school shooting plan was in the works? Or did Harrison somehow mastermind the whole thing? Were the kill lists and the drawing schematics of where people sat in classrooms forged? I couldn't tell if Harrison was acting or if he was genuinely shocked to hear that Ethan would never be coming home, that his family's lives were all irreparably damaged. I felt so sorry for both the parents, especially the dad. I also think Angela must be the most incompetent police chief ever. I get it that Iron Lake doesn't have the resources Miami has, but come on- Harrison said he saw Ethan coming at him with a knife. Yet Ethan managed to get a completely clean shot with the knife, that just happened to be pretty shallow and non lethal? Harrison and Ethan have no wounds besides the stab wounds? No bruising, no scratches, nothing that might occur when two high school boys are scuffling over a knife? For such a genius, Harrison sure was sloppy, especially knowing who his father is (in terms of forensics). Harrison must know how suspicious Dexter would be, and his self righteous affront at Dexter's questions was way overdone. There's no way Harrison could think he fooled Dexter. Since Angela isn't interested in doing much besides posting up various crime scene photos for any interested passerby (at this point, she might as well post everything on the Iron Lake PD social media pages since there is no security in the police station and she tells anyone who wants to know anything about whatever case she's working on), hopefully Iron Lake has good attorneys nearby who could destroy Harrison on the witness stand.
  24. I also think it's farfetched that it would take authorities 19 months to find the girls, regardless, but it's possible Misty sabotages multiple efforts to be found.
  25. See, I am not sure if Jackie even was saying they had had sex that night prior, and I am thinking they did not. The way Jeff said, it's my turn now- I assumed she gave him a handjob or a BJ. I thought her remark, I decided going away to college a virgin was a mistake, was a rather glib way to admit she wasn't ready to break up with him. Shauna definitely said, wait Jeff is a virgin?, not wait, Jeff was a virgin? (I mean, we know she knows he's not, but Jackie doesn't). I don't think Jackie was saying she had sex with him the night prior, just that she intended to have sex with him at some point before college and so she hadn't broken up with him. Shauna seemed surprised Jackie thought Jeff was a virgin, which was rather cocky of her if they have broken up multiple times (although if the break up was like, a couple hours, maybe not).
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