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That's what I thought! I was sure Shauna got a postcard.

Well...I feel like a bonehead. Although not as much as Angela should feel like one :). OK, the whole town getting ashed on actually makes more sense for how Kurt figured out Matt was in the incinerator, but you're right, does nothing to tie Dexter as the culprit. That said, I don't think it's totally crazy that Kurt suspected Dexter. As he said before, he knew something was off about Dexter. I think we are just going to have to accept that in the Dexter canon, serial killers can identify each other. Kurt may not have known what Dexter was in his former life, but he knew there was something off about him and Dexter has been on Kurt's radar since he arrived. Further, Dexter does live near where Matt was last seen, and he is known for taking (armed) walks around the woods where Kurt knows Matt was attacked. (As far as how Kurt knows this, it really wouldn't surprise me at this point if Angela had said, well Dexter takes walks all along the forest every day, and he said he didn't see anything. Good thing he takes a rifle with him, eh?). None of that would hold up in a court of law, but Kurt isn't a prosecutor and he's not planning on arresting Dexter. He has been fishing when talking to Dexter and Dexter has realized this, confirmed in his voiceovers. I don't know if Kurt knew for sure that Dexter had incinerated Matt and may have flaunted the unmelted titanium in his face to see what kind of reaction Dexter would have- guilt, anger, or total confusion. Dexter didn't have much of a reaction, but enough of one to probably confirm in Kurt's mind that Dexter did do it. And can I just say this again, how freaking DUMB is Angela? You have a missing man, a slew of missing girls last seen in Iron Lake, and you have a public access incinerator and when the whole town is covered in ash, you don't think to maybe, I don't know, check it out? Or maybe, like, set up security cameras around the incinerator? Or like, close off the public access part?

Not exactly. As I recall, she left him because it was clear he was going back to his dad with his tail between his legs. That was when John and Beth were masterminding his opponents campaign. Jamie was pretty much sunk but the redhead wanted him to keep going. After Jamie killed the reporter she showed up again and accused him of being involved, which Jamie very weakly and unconvincingly denied. At that point, she more or less shrugged it off and said if he wanted to be a part of her life and their baby’s life he would have to learn to stand up to John. That was how she revealed she was pregnant and then she sashayed off until now. I don’t think she’s a straight up gold digger because it was stated in an early episode she comes from money and Jamie made a good living even as daddy’s legal lapdog. She wants the power and the status and John is in her way. eta: her main concern in confronting Jamie about the dead reporter was whether SHE- as a witness- was also in a danger. I do not believe she is one bit concerned about the morality of Jamie. I’m of two minds about this. On the one hand, John laid out hundreds of thousands of dollars for medical treatment and Jimmy got hurt off the clock so he was under no obligation to do so. On the other hand, Jimmy didn’t ask for his help and was told after the fact that he basically owed it to John and had no real say in the matter. John can be very generous- but always only on his terms.

Not really the point of your post, but just curious- has it been stated how Nat came to own the car?

I think Rita's mother was alive- she came down to visit during season 1 or 2 and defended the Bay Harbor butcher to Rita. I don't think Rita was that close to her though. Her two older kids lived with their paternal grandparents. Dexter told Hannah to get in touch with him if Harrison showed a dark side, and evidently gave her a way to do so, so I can't believe she wouldn't reach out to him if she knew she was dying. But I also can't see Harrison killing her- they appear to want to keep him somewhat redeemable and having him kill the person who volunteered to look after him after he had no one else and nowhere else to go seems like a pretty one note villain. Even if he found out she was a murderer too, she was the only caregiver he had from ages 6-13. And also call BS on Harrison remembering Trinity.

Interesting! Although Jackie has the duck lips plus the peace sign. Yeesh. I can't tell if he looks older. I recall the longer bleached hair for guys was popular throughout the 90s- the frosted spiked tips is more what I think of when I think late 90s boy hairstyles. Jeff is channeling Zach Morris for sure in that pic. It could just be a mistake, but such a weird one to make. Someone had to compile that list- they didn't think to check release dates? Also, I think the main writers are around the ages of the main characters and probably remember when these movies came out. Sure, they could just be thinking, who's really going to look, but as long as you have to do it anyways, why not do it accurately? I mean, it would be one thing if Jackie and Shauna were in a flashback and something was in the background that wouldn't have been around in 1996, then I might argue that a set designer just made an oopsy. But to take the time to make a diary page (even one you assume no viewer is actually going to see) and make it incorrect is weird. But not impossible. If it is a clue, it is indeed an insanely subtle one. ETA: went back and watched the brunch scene again to see if there were any clues to pick up about when Jeff last saw Jackie, and there really aren't any. But oh man, the look on Mama Taylor's face when Jeff says that Shauna got into Brown. That probably pissed off Mama more than Jeff's admission that he was sleeping with Shauna while dating Jackie.

I am a little worried about that as well. I would assume all episodes were filmed and can't be changed at this point, but you never know. I saw an article that the actress playing teen Jackie is signed on for season 2. That makes me a little nervous that they might try and stretch out the storyline but she could also be a continued presence in adult Shauna's life. I really don't care for season ending cliffhangers either.

That's a good point, but not only is the writing something a 20-21 year old wouldn't write, it's not really something I think an 18 year old would write either. It seems more in line with a 12-13 year old writing. You'd think an 18 year old would be writing about her boyfriend, her friends, her college plans, her parents, etc. I suppose given that Shauna's flashback was probably them as freshman, it could be around that time, but then the list would be even further off time wise. They also could have just shown Shauna flipping through the diary while looking nostalgic, I mean nothing she read really advanced the story line. It seems really deliberate to have them zoom in on a series of lists Jackie ostensibly kept. Shauna as the real author is interesting, but the cutesy-ness of the pages (with popcorn drawings and multi colored coded lists) just seems very at odds with her personality and if she's trying to replicate Jackie...she's making her look pretty vapid. It's not exactly a flattering imitation. eta: Reddit suggested Jackie had extreme emotional regression due to stress/trauma, but I don't think there's going to be enough episodes left for them to work that in. I know there is a season 2 slated now, but they wrote this season already, correct?

Eh, my guess is Beth hit a sore spot when she pointed out that the protesting and lecturing is a giant waste of time and she's just going to turn to her parents for bail money and she never truly suffers any consequences or makes any difference in the world, and Summer feels like getting a billy club to the face will prove to Beth she's serious about her cause, and we all know every woman on this show lives for Beth's nonexistent respect and approval.

It wasn't just that he was in town, it was that he had what Kurt assumed was snow on him and then later realized was ash. Dexter got ash on himself and inside of his car. Now, most people would just shrug and assume Dexter had a winter bonfire, but Kurt has a spidey sense when being around people who kill people (or who will kill people). It's why he's drawn to Harrison. Now, the screw that was sent- not sure if that was actually retrieved from the incinerator or if Caldwell was just bluffing to see what kind of reaction Dexter would have.

Like Taylor Sheridan is really going to let Market Equities beat Beth. Every conflict is so incredibly rigged in the bio Dutton favor. I assume Baby Mama does not know about Jamie's bio dad's involvement in the attack. Then again, she might and she might not care. She strongly suspected (correctly) that Jamie killed the reporter and that doesn't seem to bother her any. Tate is a terrible actor. Like, absolutely terrible. Also I think Taylor Sheridan assumes Monica is a fan favorite so we will probably never be rid of her. The only bright spot of the episode was the Dutton dinner. So many good lines. Although John kind of sucks for apparently not inviting Rip for dinner once in 25-30 years??

I get, but 20 years worth? I am surprised Jeff would continue to indulge this. I think Shauna's visions lately of Jackie kind of indicate that she assumes Jackie would forgive her for whatever happened. For some reason this cracks me up. The word prissy just doesn't get used enough anymore. I do find it a bit unusual that Jackie and Jeff were together for 3+ years (albeit with short breakups with some regularity) and apparently never said I love you to each other. That's a long time to date someone you're not sure you are that serious about. Especially in high school. 3 years in high school is like 15 years in adult time. Jackie may have liked the idea of Jeff a lot more than she liked Jeff, but given how fickle teens are you'd think someone else would have caught her eye during that time.

Quite a few leaps here tonight. Clancy's catch that it was ash and not snow was good, but did someone clean out the incinerator then and find Matt's screws? That seems like quite a logic jump- Dexter has ash on him, therefore he must have gone to the town incinerator and I better check it out? Angela was dumb to get so excited that she had Kurt nailed. Even if he hadn't blamed his father, there's still a ways to go from proving Iris bit him to proving he's the one who killed her. So the scene with Iris's death was Caldwell's actual recollections, interspersed with his made up story about his father picking up Iris? Too bad then he couldn't burn Angela with the fact that Iris referred to Angela as her ex best friend moments before she died. Also agree that his murder of Iris makes no sense. He wanted to stop her from becoming an abused prostitute but winds up shooting her in the back? It wasn't like he had done anything wrong at this point so there wasn't any need to silence her. Was he just mad that she turned down his offer to help? Harrison really sucks. I am so sick of him acting like a punk and then getting mad when he's called on it. Newsflash, Harrison, you act like a psycho and people are going to start calling you one.

(Spoiler tagged just in case, even though this was from this episode). I like the Reddit comment that Jackie wanting to be Angela from American Beauty needs a whole thread of its own. I mean, that honestly makes ZERO sense. The whole point of her character arc was that she was so desperate to avoid being ordinary, which she absolutely was. I mean, you could draw parallels between Angela and Jackie, but who would actually want to be Angela? ETA: Screenshot actually says movie characters I would be, not movie characters I want to be. But I don't know what she'd have in common with Mia Wallace from Pulp Fiction nor why anyone would want to be this character. For that matter, Pulp Fiction doesn't really fit in with most of the chick flicks Jackie listed. That would be so typical of a teen girl to pick her because her boyfriend made her watch the movie and said Uma Thurman was hot. I swear, I think all these characters are at least loosely based on people the writers knew in high school.

Yeah, the worst part is, unlike Jackie's mom, who was deliberately trying to be hurtful (seriously, she was at first aiming for plausible deniability with her whole, "I think it's so great you can be content being so ordinary and having achieved so little- I mean that in a good way!", then she gave up all pretense of a compliment), I think Jeff thought he was saying something that would really make Shauna feel better. I think all he meant was, he doesn't idealize Jackie as this one perfect soulmate to which no other woman can possibly compare, and he is realistic that he and Jackie would not have made each other happy in the long term, with or without Shauna in the mix, but it came out pretty ham fisted. Yeah, at first I thought it was a hint that Jackie actually didn't die in the wilderness (ie she came back with Shauna, but died at a later date) but then I remembered Shauna got married at 22-23 which even for 2001 was on the young side for brides, and I think it was just another dig, like, Shauna you're such a sad sack marrying your best friend's sloppy seconds, but Jackie would be gracious enough to just be glad someone wanted to be with you. Also, have I told you lately how much you suck? If not, let me remind you. ETA: If Jackie's mom pulls this on Shauna every year, I can't believe Jeff and Shauna still agree to go. That scene was horrifying and I am so glad she changed her mind. I am not even sure how many 18 year olds would even know the correct way to complete the procedure in 1996. I am not sure what Shauna feels like Jackie finding out she's pregnant will mean Jackie will find out who the father is. I mean, I get she doesn't want to keep lying, but that's something that can be deferred until after they're rescued, you know?

So Jackie's mom is quite the master of the passive aggressive insults, isn't she? I thought gifting Shauna Jackie's soccer uniform roughly 22 years after she last wore it was weird enough, and I am further convinced after this episode she invites Shauna over only to undermine her. Whether she holds her responsible in some way for Jackie's death or is just bitter Shauna is alive while Jackie is dead is unclear. A few things she said were really weird though. Especially the part about Jackie always wanting more. I get it, she was burning Shauna for living such an ordinary life, but Jackie was a high school student. It's not like she was gunning for CEO while raising kids or anything like what the mom was hinting at. Also, her comment that Jackie always worried about Shauna finding someone. Even if Jackie thought Shauna had no love life so far, she was 18. There was plenty of time for that; it's not like people become spinsters at age 18. It sounds more like things Jackie would say or do as an adult. I guess we don't know that she died at 18-19, but given that she always appears that age in Shauna's interactions with her as an adult, it seems a reasonable assumption. At first I thought it was great that Jeff jumped in to praise Shauna, but then he did the same thing the mom did while they were in the car. When he said all he was ever going to be was Jackie's high school boyfriend, but made a life with Shauna, the implication might have been that Jackie was too good for him (or maybe that regardless, he wasn't enough for Jackie) but he suits Shauna just fine. I am sure he meant it be reassuring, but I don't think I would have taken it that way, especially in Shauna's shoes. Sounds like they traditionally have it on Jackie's birthday, whatever day that happens to fall on.

I really like her. It seemed she was in every late 90s/early 2000s teen oriented movie, but always as the friend, or the sister, never the main character. But she did awesomely once a bring a baby to a bar :).

There was like, a longing look, and Kayce looked startled to see her, beyond just being surprised to see a woman in the bunkhouse. I thought he might have known her, but it was never explored. If there was any intent on the writers to do something with it, I believe that has now been retconned. I think we are to assume that Avery "fell in love" with Kayce upon first sight, whenever that might have been, but he doesn't know her. I think Kayce and Monica have been together since high school, in fact, didn't John tell Monica that Kayce knocking up Monica in high school and insisting on marrying her was what instigated his forced branding? Kayce has given Monica no reason to be jealous, but if Monica can feel like the aggrieved party for any reason, she will milk it to no end.

The governor was pretty cruel to Jamie to give him no heads up over what she was planning. And if she couldn't give him a heads up, did she have to pull him out of his office to watch and give his evil sister the chance to point and laugh at him? Jamie is pretty weak willed, makes terrible choices, and also like, has murdered someone, so logically it's hard to feel sorry for him, but I do. That said, he absolutely should have known better. There is no way in any world, for any reason, Beth would show up and smile as Jamie was publicly endorsed.

I've been a bit suspicious of teen Shauna (and adult Shauna). Perhaps I am influenced by Shauna having a somewhat regular thing with her best friend's boyfriend, but, I feel like in the Shauna teen scenes in the wilderness, there is a vibe she is somewhat gratified by Jackie's new unpopularity, which may be understandable, but not particularly nice. This was the first episode I thought where she seemed to actually be a good friend to Jackie and she seemed genuinely worried that Jackie really would alienate herself past the point of no return. She can be ruthless, no doubt, but I do believe it was an accident, and in Taissa's mind, she was mentally preparing Allie for what Allie would face in nationals, with a lower stakes setting. She has shown a lot of kindness to everyone out in the wilderness so far, which does seem at odds with how she was portrayed the pilot episode. Interesting thing is they must have had a full winter and a partial winter (by my count they crashed prob late May 1996 and 19 months later would put them in Jan 1998). Lots of time left for things to go sideways. Oregon Trail!!

Finally watched the episode this week (I'm in no hurry anymore) and just when I thought Monica couldn't get much more obnoxious, she tops herself. After spending three seasons lecturing every white man she comes across about the horrors faced by indigenous people, particularly women, Avery, who I am assuming is Native American based on how she lives on the reservation, is reduced by Monica to being "Kayce's tank top wearing bitch" because she dared breathe. Way to embody girl power, Monica. Also, Jamie's assistant knows damn well who Beth is. She's let her into Jamie's office before. She couldn't give her boss a heads up that it was Beth representing Market Equities now? ETA: Also, can just one person, just once, get a solid burn on Beth? Piper walked right into "God blessed me with these for free and looks like he gave me yours too". The best Piper got was pointing out that Beth was a little old to be getting jealous of the women Daddy pals around with, which was a decent insult and it would grind Beth's gears sufficiently when Daddy nodded his agreement, but naturally it was behind her back. Although I guess I hate both Summer/Piper Perabo enough that her burning Beth wouldn't be worth it to watch. A gluten free vegan should probably just carry her own cooler around, especially in more rural areas.

He's a genius and also street smart, but didn't consider that his blood spatter expert father might think his knife wound was inconsistent with Harrison's story. He hangs with a serial killer and brushes off his father's warnings that something is off about the serial killer because Serial Killer is nice to him, and has taken a huge interest in him, which isn't weird at all. I'll grant him the Audrey thing. She clearly suffers from Marissa Cooper syndrome where she's bored in life and the new kid in town doesn't have to be particularly charismatic to catch her interest. She's a dim bulb herself and full of self righteous indignation so Harrison could be the lamest person ever (and I kind of think he's in the running already), and still seem cool to her.

I totally agree with all of this- in Angela's shoes I would absolutely break things off with him, because Jim Lindsay is basically a carefully crafted alter ego (I mean, she doesn't know this, but she wouldn't be wrong to suspect it), but her whole "every time I called you Jim it was a lie" was completely melodramatic and really belongs on a soap opera. I think the actor who plays Harrison isn't great, and the character is poorly written. It's not a matter of a layered, flawed character, it's more of an inconsistent, writers can't decide how to portray him and want to stay a step ahead of the audience so the character changes based on which way the storyline is going, kind of thing which is annoying and also kind of cheap. And the actor can do puppy dog eyes/tears but that's about it. Anything requiring additional nuance from him just falls flat. I think Molly gets some good lines here and there (the massage place only got 2 stars on yelp? sure I'll sit through this conference with you), but agree her podcast narration is grating.

Right??? I find it hard to believe any police chief would be cavalier about sensitive information being said in front of her civilian boyfriend, and allowing him to peruse the crime photos for fun, but her employees asking drug dealers for their sources while sitting in a room with an open door and a civilian sitting in plain sight right outside? Why not just invite him along to your drug bust for funsies? Maybe there's a kindergarten class who can tag along on a field trip as part of their Say No to Drugs education? ETA: Also, I find Dexter's Papa Bear routine pretty rich. Hey, Dex, this is the same kid you never once bothered to check on in like 8 years. I know you trusted Hannah, but you know, unforeseen circumstances and all that, and it wouldn't have killed you to confirm, just for yourself, that Harrison was being cared for properly. But let's be real, you only want to play Dad to a mostly independent teen who may be a mini-you. 7 year old Harrison was just too much work if you didn't have a round the clock nanny or a wife who had such low standards thanks to an abusive ex that she only cared that you weren't beating her or her kids and pretty much handled all domestic duties and asked no questions of you.

You know speaking of that, I wonder if they are going to (or if they already have) CGI the girls' bodies at all to show weight loss. (By already have I mean they are making the actresses look heavier at the beginning on purpose). Mostly I wonder because the girl hanging from her ankles in the pilot is really thin, and that body type would eliminate about half the girls we see milling around. I would have to imagine it has been at least 4 weeks since the crash, if Shauna has a missed period and early pregnancy symptoms, and we are assuming the pregnancy is the result of the tryst right before the plane takeoff. Then again, pregnancies in TV world often work differently than in real life so maybe it's still only been a week or 2.