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Does anyone have a copy of the picture we saw of Dean's messy room. I want to look at it again.

Minus the end scene with Dean, it felt like this should have been the premier.

I've seen spec that Michael actually did leave Dean, but he's still under Michael's control. Sort of like Cas with Naomi. But why would Michael leave his true vessel? The synopsis said while investigating they end up on the same case as Jody. In the promo Jody is asking if it feels like he was stabbed with a meat fork. So does this mean that Michael marked Kaia and a bunch of others?

It's not a handprint. It's some kind scar. You can see it in the promo.

IMO, that was all Jensen. I'm not sure if this is a spoiler or not so I'll tag it just in case. They barely told the story as it was. It was the D plot in the first ep. Behind, leaderSam, Jack woobieness, and Nick's trauma. It was the C plot in this ep. Nick's trauma and Jack's woobieness and then a handful of Michael scenes. They've done nothing to earn the benefit of the doubt.

Last week they gave Sam, Dean's leader ship role. This week they gave the trauma of possession and the flashbacks, damaged vessel role to Nick. Dean's apparently immune. Makes me think the "Dean doesn't matter" line they gave to Jack was meta. Sure sounds like it.

Why weren't Kelly's parents a little more frantic? From Jack's wording he was using past tense. They came across as having a good relationship with Kelly, so why aren't they wondering why Kelly didn't and wasnt' bringing the baby home to meet them. If she was using the excuse of working over seas, why wouldn't she call. It doesn't make sense to go to some remote backwoods area with no ways to contact people with a new born.

It look like Danneel got her revenge. I love her sense of humor.

I don't either. But Dean's part is. That's all I cared about. So it might as well be.

That's it? Seven months of story build up for it to end just because....reasons? It's obvious Michael is going to end up in Nick. Do we really need As the Supernatural World Turns and the majority of this episode focusing on Nick. I dont' care who killed his family and I don't care about Jack. This episode should have focused on finding Dean. Screw Jack. When Dean questions whether Jack is threat he's an asshat. I don't like the double standards. I'll give Misha credit for doing a good job with the Lucifer scenes. You could feel Cas's revulsion towards the guy that looked like Lucifer. I get they want to show Sam as perfect, but its too far with Sam doing nothing but sticking up for Nick. It feels forced. Buck/Lemming both said that Lucifer was their favorite character and that's obvious. The Michael storyline could have been interesting but it ended up being a bust because its clear not a single writer actually gave a crap about it. If that is still Michael and Lucifer then if I was a Cas fan I'd be ticked that Cas can't tell. He should be able too. This is why I don't believe Dean is still in Michael. But now Jensen's acting- Where do I ever start. I'll start at holy hell he was good. Michael was so cold and calculating. Not a trace or ounce of sympathy in him. So different from Dean that sense. Michael's eyes are completely dead. He was damn meancing. Its to bad they didnt' give him time to find the character before cutting it off again at the knees. Seriously screw Dabb. That mirror scene. Despite being so short, once again Jensen does need tricks or effects. I could tell instantly. Also when he walked into the church I knew immediately that was Dean. Seriously, screw Dabb. I'm going to spoiler tag this just incase it comes up in a later episode I thought he was going more for sauve and debonair, plus menacing. I thought it was there. Michael showed signs that he could be scary if he wanted too. It also hard to develop a character when you get no help from the writing staff. and barely get to play him. This is why I feel like Jensen was so great. He not only spins straw into gold, but he makes the straw too. He should get story credit.

There was that interview at comic when Jensen said he spoke to Dabb, because after Michael confronted the Holy Man he used his fists to beat him up. Jensen had to remind him Michael had powers. So it wouldn't surprise me.

The only thing that might prevent the big bad from being Kaia Sue Wayward, is availability. I'm not sure what they're status is. Most of them has seemed to moved on. The girl that plays Kaia was cast in a Netflix series. I'm not sure when that films or how big her role is. Kathyrn Newton is in high demand,, and she's also in a Netflix series. Kat Ramdeen is running for council in Canada. That leaves Patience who was probably the weakest character of the bunch. Kim and Briana seem to have some up coming project. They haven't said what it is but they're hinting at something. Kim tweeted how there wasn't many PJ parties left (convention activity) and its curious that they haven't been signed for any 2019 cons yet.

It would be a cool storyline if its somehow Dean who stops Michael's plans with the monsters so he pretends to leave Dean so he can get revenge and attempts to take out Dean's family one by one. Starting with the AU crew. They need to go. I don't like them in Dean's home.

It might be amicable between Jensen and the net work. We know he has a good relationship with Peter Roth. But like I said, the odds are probably less than zero.

It said at the end of the year. We know he has a contract for this year but no details as to whether thats a one or two year contract.

https://tvline.com/2018/10/18/blind-item-original-cast-member-out-at-long-running-drama-series/#comment-list-wrapper I know the odds of this being Jensen are zero but if it was it would explain a lot of Dabb's choices this season.

you might be better off doing it this week since we're supposed to get more Michael. So its better if this ep has higher Social Media ratings. Next week is a Wayward ep, and if rating are higher the TPTB could interpret it as wanting more wayward.

I wish they'd stop trying to pretend Dean isn't back tonight.

This is a large problem I had. There was nothing really there about Dean. Sure, they said they wanted to find him but no one actually talked about him. Nobody said why they wanted him back. No one said one posistive thing about him. Or actually had a conversation about him. Its like they were investigating a case of the week. If Sam had time to neatly groom and trim his beard, he had time to shave, so the whole "grief beard" didn't' work for me.

I wish I could find that meta I read on Tumblr. It was really well written and it talked about how the show has shifted from horror to fantasy and how Dean really doesn;t fit anymore because he's the only one whose still hanging around in the horror side of things. It's so true.

Honestly, at this point it wouldnt' surprise me if Buck/Lemming

My theory is that Nougat Baby is dying without this grace so Dean will suggest going into the empty to get it back. In doing so he will be responsible for accidentally releasing Lucifer. Then Lucifer will repossess Nick and we'll have a Michael/Lucifer hybrid.

While I would love this, I just dont' see them letting Jensen play two versions of Michael. I do think Cage Michael will make an appearance, but I think ultimately it will Sam that says yes. *that is not bitch vs jerk but more meant as bitter speculation.

I do remember something about this. I think it was a panel and JP said it was during one of the early seasons when his mental heath wasn't good. But that that with a grain of salt because I don' remember much more than that. That might not be accurate. I've seen speculation that Kaia is going to be the big bad of the season. That wouldn't surprise me since Dabb still seems like he cant' get over the fact that the show was picked up.