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It matches the episode description perfectly.

Based on the promo pics, it doesn't seem like Dean does a very good job of fighting off Hatchet man. He'll probably saved by random dude standing next to him

Except the interrogation wasn't getting anywhere because little Miss Ninja Sue wasn't intimated in the slightest. So they could have had Sam interrupt or they could have spread the insults around or had Sam do some of heavy lifting or even Jody get in her face on Claire's behalf, after she said she was trying to kill Claire. There were multiple other ways they could have written that scene.

Here is the quote. So it seems they are refering to Dean having a serial killer as an idol.

I'd have to go back and look but didn't Dabb specifically say that the hatchet man was was like SPN's version of Jason and Freddy. I took the Jason reference to be the guy from Friday the 13th and not Jason Todd. I also thought Dabb said right out it was The Hatchet Man that Dean saw as an idol.

For me the justification and excuses don't work anymore. Because its not just one-off episodes it's happening in. It becoming part of a pattern with how the writers approach the exposition. Lately, its always Sam correcting Dean. "Dean can't know everything about everything." But Sam can? Even things Dean is supposed to be the expert or smart one in. If we do get a smart Dean scene, the writers will be sure to make sure to throw Sam a bone. See The Thing, when we finally see Dean do the research, they couldn't just let Dean give the info. They had to make Sam correct him over a simple latin word, and a french one a few eps before. So Sam can pronounce every single word in every single language? Latin is something, Dean's been exposed to since he was was four. We've seen him read it smoothly, even if he doesn't know exactly what the words mean. Even if Dean doesn't know what the word might mean, it's not hard to figure out what capitulum (or however its spelt) means in teh context it was being used it. Plus, in the shows history the Men of Letters and the show have always called Bunker, Bunker's. The fact that they used a latin word comes across as it being included for the sole purpose of using it for Sam correcting Dean. Or the ScoobyDoo episode. Dean is the one that loves Scooby Doo. But when Dean was showing off his ScoobyDoo knowledge it was also another time they made sure to let the audience Sam also knew that lore. It's like they can't show the audience Dean is smart and knows things without making to sure to put a stark reminder in that "Don't forget Sam knows more." Same with when someone is verbally decimating Dean. "Dean doesn't need it" is no longer acceptable because every other character gets it. Jack's had 6 pep talks so far. So clearly they aren't working. But people keep trying. Why can't we get some dialogue for Dean to remind him how strong he is, or how he's sacrificed himself to save other multiple times. Sam spent the entire episode badgering, pestering Dean to talk. When he finally got his way he couldn't be bothered. Nor could the writers bother. So at, some point it does become authorial intent. For me, its crossed the line.

It really does seem like Sam knows everything about everything

At least Dean looks good. So is Sam going to cut Dean off now every time he speaks? Seriously its like Jensen was about to give a line that Jared delivered. This happened twice Of course Sam is now correcting Dean on pop culture things. At least Dean was allowed to know what sage was.

I best way to summerize how I feel about the way Sam's flaws and mistakes are treated vs the way Dean's are, I'd love to swap. I'd love to see them treat Dean the EXACT way they treat Sam when he messes up.

He spends an entire season lying and going behind Dean's back, but Dean has to prove to Sam that he trusts him. The whole thing with Benny. Sam gets his way when Benny cuts Dean lose. Sam's actions are never seen or talked about again. The Brits- promoted to leader Going into the cage- a chance to really confront Lucifer and basically telling him to go *beep himself. Not to mention a very special episode dedicated to telling us what a very brave little snowflake Sam is. We can agree to disagree. Sam gets big storylines and moments from his mistakes. Not a chance. We're lucky if the show remembers Dean knows how to read.

This really is a gift that keeps on giving.

https://tvline.com/2018/10/31/flash-season-5-spoilers-jesse-martin-medical-leave-joe-west-absence/ Sam has his AU people Cas has Jack Mary has Bobby. Jensen said it best when he said he was an island unto himself. He really does feel like the odd man out.

LOL Jensen. Or as someone on my timeline put it. Jensen trying to get through SPN scripts these days.

If Dean did that, he'd be told he was running away, and pouting. Dean's the one character not allowed space on this show.

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Dear Lord..... *faints.

The kindest thing they could do for Dean as a character is just kill him off. At least let him go out with the little bit of dignity he has left.

I used to really want to see an episode for Dean based on It's a Wonderful life, but now I hope and pray they don't. We'd get the Simpon's version.

I think you could be right. It fits with what Jensen said at the last con. In the morning panel. Someone said is Dean back, he said, yes. End of question. Then in the afternoon, he said yes Dean is back, but in what capacity. So this spec does fit.

I really hope they don't go with that concept. And have a different approach to the 300th ep.

This season feels like the writers mission is to break Dean, completely and for good. They've stripped the last good characteristic off him and gave that to Chief. Dean really has come full circle. He was expected to be a mindless, flunkie and obey John's every order. Now he's just going to end up a mindless flunkie and obey Sam's every order. It's not wonder Dean ended up like he did in The End. It seems like his so-called family really thinks that he's dosen't matter, that he's weak and scared and just a bully. Sam gets to learn he's stronger than he thinks and have everyone tell him what a great person and leader he is, even demons now cower in his wake, and mean while Dean gets to learn he really was a horrible person all along. Screw Dabb. I loath him so much.

From @MysteryGuest in The Scar episode thread Dabb already said that this was part of a larger storyline for Sam, and that Dean would have to "adjust" and we would see that over several episodes. I don't see the AU people following the guy who was too weak to fight off Michael if favor of the the guy they insist on calling Chief, even thought Sam asked them to stop. This sounds like the start of another Dean needs to learn Sam is a big boy story line, that they started last season with the whole kiddie table stuff. With the potential spoiler that someone gets killed under Sam's command, (implied heavily but not a direct spoiler). I would be money that Sam will make noise about wanting to give up the position but everyone around him will be sure to tell him what a good job he's doing and he's their chief. No, I think this is Sam's role now. Not Dean's. I'd be surprised if they use it as a learning opportunity that Sam doesn't want it and not cut out for it, but I don't think that is the direction Dabb and company are going. They've been pushing this for over 2 seasons now.

Will respond in bitter spoilers.

As far as I'm concerned everything Sam did in s4 was whitewashed. He wasn't reckless or arrogant, or ego driven. So even if there wasn't an charcter saying, no this isn't a fault, the narrative took care of that. Dean was mean and didn't let Sam make his own decisions and treated him like a child. Even though Dean did actually allow Sam to make his choices and Ruby played Sam like a fiddle, Sam had to get away from Dean. That, IMO, was the single worst line in the history of the show. Because it showed me that Sam will never really be held responsible. There will always be a giant "but" attached. That's exactly what happened. Even if Bobby didn't' fully walk everything back, he still said "its the demon talking," implying that that Bobby doesn't really think those things. That's a perfect example of "but" IMO, the show justified everything Sam did with Ruby when they white washed the demon blood drinking. The fact that demon blood wasn't need to host an angel (which makes no sense) before or since it the textbook definition of whitewashing. They even gave Ruby a justification when they said she was only getting Sam ready for Lucifer. I feel like they were refuted when the Kripke said the point was for Dean to learn to love Sam more and learn to trust him and not treated him like a child. Sam with s8. Authorial intent to me made it seem like we were supposed to side with Sam. They just underestimated Jensen ability to make us feel sympathy for Dean. Nothing Sam did in Citizen Fang was ever called out or mentioned on screen. Dean gave Sam a choice between hunting or Amelia, Sam was like dump Benny or I'll dump you. The narrative supported Sam here, and yet somehow Dean's the controlling one. If we were meant to see it as flaws it would be mentioned on screen. It wasn't. It was ignored, but we actually had Charlie say that Dean ruined Sam's life. Nothing was mentioned the other way around. IMO, Dean was made the bad guy in s5. I know we dont' see eye to eye on this and I'm not interesting in rehashing the debate, Just saying why I don't see this as the show saying these are actual flaws. Basically, its only Sam's fault because Dean made him to it in the first place. It's like I said. The show seems to view Sam's flaws as others not accepting his actions, not the actions themselves. I feel like Sam is rewarded for his mistakes. Like with the Brits. He followed them blindly and he got promoted into Dean's leadership role for it. Sure, Sam has issues, but they arent' treated like flaws.