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If I were you, I'd come to terms with the fact that we may not get a solid answer for this. It wouldn't be very entertaining if Pilcher sat Ethan down and answered 1,001 questions about how the mountain facility is run and how every single little thing functions. I'm not psychic, but I'm 90% sure we won't find out. Why are you phrasing that as though they couldn't have built the massive fence, but also had people die from attacks during it? I reasonably assumed that people died during the building of the town and the fence. It's normal and expected to deal with some casualties during something like that. That's what I concluded at least.. Of course Pilcher knew everything about Pope. Pilcher is the boss, Pope was the employee. It's as easy as running a background check. This isn't remotely a plot hole or unrealistic. As he said in the facility with Ethan "You can get away with anything when you have money". Pilcher was filthy filthy rich...so he looked into Pope's background. So? What's wrong with that timeline? Pilcher tells the first group the truth, they start freaking out, run or kill themselves over months to a year. Destruction occurs so then Pilcher and his team start over.

I thought this was a really good episode. Pretty sure I like it even more than Episode 5. The focus was on Ethan (which I prefer) and the uprising plot with Kate, Harold, and other guy seems intriguing. The show keeps explaining things and I sure as hell appreciate it.

Maybe Theresa and Ben aren't there either. Maybe Ethan's just been imagining them. Maybe there was no Beverley. Maybe his name isn't even Ethan.. It doesn't make sense to doubt every single thing you see from the character's perspective. Have to assume that he's at least sane enough to trust what he sees otherwise the episodes become much less enjoyable...to me at least. I'm also of the opinion that the first mention of the Easter bombings was just to add depth to Ethan's character and give us a little insight into him, nothing more.

Are you serious or joking? Sometimes I can't interpret sarcasm on the internet. Okay. #1 This is a television show on FOX, not a real life occurrence. #2 The sign was made to appear rusted by the prop department just enough so that it would have an aged appearance, that the main character would get the message that "Oh damn. This looks really old and rusted. How much time has passed?" If the sign was buried under hundreds of feet of plants and the solid earth, Ethan wouldn't see it, the audience at home wouldn't see it, and people would not get that hundreds of years have gone by. I very much disagree that the sign was put there on purpose. You can't have the sign be (realistically) illegible because then Ethan wouldn't get the point, and the audience wouldn't either...It has to have had just enough wear and tear so we could still see "Boise". This isn't a documentary, and I sincerely doubt they have scientists on as consultants for the show.

Why would you expect future tech to be in WP if they have been in hibernation for a long long time? And some kind of disaster clearly destroyed the outside world..so where would you expect the citizens to get cool future gadgets from in the outside world? They've all been asleep/frozen/hibernating for centuries...meaning the tech they had when they hibernated at that time (2000s) is what we see now. Pilcher has a helicopter, I assume that at one time in the past, he and whoever works for him might have quickly flown out of WP, seen the rest of the world, and maybe grabbed those old 2095 quarters. There's clearly nothing left. Ethan saw it with his own two eyes..doesn't get more believable than that. The ruins, the rusted and destroyed Boise sign, collapsed buildings.. Alot of your questions have been answered in the actual show. She said "I've always believed you" ..didn't have anything to do with the burger. That line could mean they had met before, but that doesn't immediately connect to time travel. ....Actors that furiously devour a rotting deer carcass and eat its entrails? That somehow drag the body of a full grown man away in 30 seconds? Again, explanation given in the show. Snipers were stationed in the woods with rifles and other guns shooting outward when Ethan saw them..very easy to presume they were shooting any abbies who got too close. Along with the huge as hell electrified fence.

Firmly disagree. Most teenagers don't know shit when it comes to taking care of themselves in a successful manner. Your examples don't apply to this particular situation. It doesn't matter that teens or kids born in the 1800s would have been fine on their own, since these kids are from the 1980s-2014, in all likelihood they are used to a spoiled and coddled life with little hard manual labor and no major upsets. They need adults to survive. Who would be taking care of the elementary aged kids we've seen glimpses of? Teens like Ben or his little girlfriend? Nope. Not a chance. The adults like Ethan or even crazy teacher serve a purpose. Teens need some kind of authority figure/parent they can look to for rules, comfort, and authority. Just using context clues, I can guess that some time ago, some adults have had to have built the town we currently see in the episodes. Adult men and women would be far more useful for hard construction versus teens.

That is true. I mean I guess they are given three strikes before they're killed but if it was me (and I'm far more reasonable than whoever thinks it's okay to have the town hunt down 1 person) and the person wasn't going along with the program, I'd just put them through cuckoo hypno teacher's brainwashing sessions to make them go along instead of killing them.

.Because you can't have children by themselves. Children need to be taken care of by adults. A town full of kids of various ages would never work. Who would tell them when to go to sleep? Cook for them? Nurture them? Obviously, the idea behind adults like Peter and Beverley is that they'll eventually marry and have children of their own. Like Bill Evans, remember? Ethan knew him as unmarried and childless, but at some point he married that one lady and they had a baby. But Beverley was too depressed by being separated from her daughter and Peter seemed to be sad and start tearing up at that picture of his kids.

At this point I am honestly kind of thinking that no matter what character says point blank, "Hey, the year is 4028, we were in hibernation for a long as hell time", some people still won't believe it. Even if Ethan accepts it. Which is fine, that's each person's right to believe what they want, but the truth is right in front of us IMO. I love theorizing as much as the next person, but I can recognize when some things presented are obvious truths and others are not.

How and why would you expect them to have super!future guns, surveillance equipment or dishwashers when it was clearly stated that they went into hibernation a long long time ago? Ethan went into hibernation in 2014, Beverley and Kate before him, Theresa and Ben after him, Peter before him....from what we've been presented with on the show, it seems like the majority of people were asleep before the devolution and before all the cool future tech was created. Also..this is just a show on FOX with a budget.

and Chad Hodge is listed as the CREATOR of the show on IMDb and several other locations, so this still isn't a project led by M. Night Shymalan. M. Night only directed one episode thus far and is an exec producer on only (4 episodes, 2015), so his contribution isn't as major as some would think. So we have the creator of the show and the writer, neither of which is M. Night. I think it's rude and silly, but you're right, MMV. It makes no sense to me to literally doubt every word/ statement the characters on the show say. Like at this point, if anyone is doubting that they are in the future (4028) even though it has been made ridiculously clear by the characters on the show, by the creator, by the author...then some people will probably doubt everything from here till the series finale. Some things need to be taken at face value.

Just something I see constantly popping up... People do realize that M. Night Shymalan (I honestly never understood why some people insist on calling him Shymalaladingdong...there's fewer letters in his actual name) did NOT write the book the show is based on, right? He's only an exec producer. I'd argue that Chad Hodge is more in charge than him. If any issues arise, then that's on the actual author, Blake Crouch. Not M. Night.

They explained (but not as well as they could have) why they lied to adults. Chris told his parents, parents freaked out, three people ended up dead. It's often thought that children are far more adaptable to new environments/ situations than adult are. Kids can roll with the punches and adjust while you have to deal with adults who would be dealing with feelings of loss, depression, anger, etc knowing that everyone they knew for the past 35-40 years (assuming adults in town are around that age) are dead and gone. Kids have only lived for 12-15 years (using the teens we met as an example) and they have their whole lives ahead of them, not so much for the parents who would know a whole other lifetime. Okay. Well I buy it. This episode has been billed by the creators of the show and the media as ANSWERS answers answers for the audience and with only five episodes left, I'm going to take weird hypno teacher's explanation at face value. She provided evidence which leads me to believe it's all fairly true.

I'll give you the point that there's alot of white people, but...the show is set in Idaho, which is in America. This place is supposed to be an idyllic small town where everyone should be happy happy, like Pleasantville. A show set in the US is going to be American.

Yes. It was only labeled with names of food items, not cities. Coffee, sugar, etc etc. Looked like huge silos for food storage for the town. IDK. Whoever did the labeling was anal retentive and liked things neatly labeled with WP and whatever was in it? Beats me honestly.

I'll have to rewatch, but are you sure he said he woke up in the same hotel room, or did he wake up in the Wayward Pines hotel room?

Anyone know if Adam Hassler is going to be involved in the story? I really hope they're not completely cutting the character out.

M. Night Shymalan did not write this story. He did not create it so there is no "his twist". It was written by a guy named Blake Crouch. M. Night and Chad Hodge simply adapted it to television. Basic logic. People would go nuts and never stop looking for hundreds of kidnapped children. You kidnap and hibernate adults..less of a big deal, people would just assume that these people left their friends, families, and started over, disappeared. Happens every day. There's always stories about adults who give up their old lives, run away across the country and start fresh. Kids are more protected.

All of these questions are answered in the book. You only thought that all of those scenes were occurring at the same time. They weren't. Every time you saw Pilcher talking to Ethan's boss and then the show moved to Ethan in WP, it was taking place at different times. Same for Theresa and Ben looking for Ethan. Once Ethan woke up in WP, it was 4028. It was just a trick by the show to make you think that Pope sabotaged their car at the same time, that they were in that gas station at the same time. It all took place in the past.

Dianna is a weak actress and always has been (IMO), so I'm not remotely surprised by these reviews. Yeah, she is gorgeous, but her looks won't always help her when it comes to roles. Blaming the director of her play or whoever else is silly since her acting is a reflection on her. The weaknesses the reviewers mentioned (poor line delivery, monotonous tone) were things I noticed on Glee, IAN4, and even her role in The Family. She just speaks in such a flat & unemotional way that I often wondered if that was an intentional "acting" choice or if that was just her. It seems like getting genuine emotion out of her is a damn struggle because I sure as hell noticed she had a hard time squeezing out a few tears all the way back in Season 1 of Glee. Ultimately though, people probably won't care about these reviews too much because she's blonde and pretty and not an awful person. If these reviews make Dianna a little less pretentious and make her knock off the "I'm an artiste who truly cares about my craft" drivel she's started spouting lately, then all the better I say! ETA: It's not that she cares about her craft, yeah, I think an actor should care and strive to be better..it's just with Dianna, I kind of noticed an air of superiority once she got to London and an affectation that grates. Maybe I have no patience for the fake as hell English accent she's using all of a sudden?

Groff is a breakout star though, at least more than Dianna (IMO of course). Dianna's name would immediately be associated with Glee, and so would Groff's, but after that, you'd associate him with LOOKING. Groff was a big part of Frozen & the new short that was in theaters before Cinderella, had that tiny part in American Sniper, was in the Normal Heart (also on HBO), is the lead/main character of an HBO show and that all happened for him after Glee. Now he's back on Broadway doing some show with Lin Manuel Miranda I think. Dianna is doing indie after indie, which is nice, and I think she needs the experience to refine her acting skills, but I personally wouldn't say she is head and shoulders above someone like Groff as far as projects go.

Obviously they sold well enough to get her a 2nd go around in both fields. It's not like Columbia or whatever publishing house released her first book would give her a second opportunity if they were colossal failures. Money talks, and executives aren't going to give her anything out of the goodness of their hearts. I happen to find her books to be in the same category as Lauren Conrad's. Something I can skim through at the pool, easy to get through and not particularly taxing. It's fluff, pure and simple.

He said he thought NYADA was a school for witches. I know it's just a lame joke, but stuff like that makes me think he's a blithering idiot. Like everyone else around the table behaved like fairly mature young adults, and the writers have Sam saying stupid shit. IMO, they dumbed him down majorly.

Exactly what I thought! I mean, she was fairly polite about it, but still. Haha, subtly shading RIB left and right.

Yet he didn't. And she'll apparently win a Tony within a few years. So Rachel wins again. As I clearly said before, NYADA could have easily given her a leave of absence while she worked on Funny Girl. Hell, Carmen or the school board very possibly could have worked with her schedule (ya know, seeing as how she'd the lead in a major Broadway musical) to allow her to take her midterm when it didn't interfere with her work commitments. Schools are supposed to help their students succeed. Rachel succeeding with people knowing where she went to school would have made NYADA looks good too.