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Overall, I really enjoyed the hell out of Season 2 but I did dislike a few things. I kind of hope the show cools it with the extended music/singing sequences, it bored me when they did Les Mis. I consider myself a positive viewer just because I so badly want the show to succeed, but even I can admit I didn't fully buy Quentin and Alice's relationship until this season. Jason Ralph & OTD sold the fuck out of it: his loss, sadness, heartbreak, misery, love..just all of it. It was like they didn't truly appreciate what they had until it was gone. The scenes with Quentin & alternate reality Alice made me so sad for them. OTD is a good actress but I enjoy her more as regular Alice than I did as niffin!Alice trapped in Quentin's tattoo. I think I'll be a bit disappointed if the writers continue to keep Q & Alice apart for ridiculous reasons. I too think that Eliot doesn't exactly have the best chemistry with his new to-be husband but maybe that will improve in Season 3? Or maybe the writers will do the fun/smart thing and just have all of our main characters together going on a quest! Not too sure. I am interested in Fen now that she seems a little darker after experiencing the loss of her daughter. I know that the point of the story is more Fillory than Brakebills but damn if I didn't LOVE the scenes with Dean Fogg this season. He's just a great character I wish we could see more of on the show. I wish Margo was given more to do on the show. I've said this before, but I feel like the Fillory stuff is all Eliot's and Margo is just being wasted.

What the hell Julia? I guess she can't really be blamed in this situation though..but if I had that chance to kill Reynard, he would've been dead. Screw OLU. Yes, it was nice that Julia got her shade back but Persephone/OLU fucked the humans over yet again. Richard & the other FTB, even John & especially Julia deserved revenge by killing Reynard. He deserves nothing but death. I feel like Persephone was lying when she said there were consequences to killing a god. Maybe a big one, but Reynard is just a trickster. Quentin was kind of a badass in this episode (for him anyway..) and I LOVE that Alice is back :) :) little shade Alice was still adorable. I can understand why Alice would be mad about being back as human after having the endless knowledge and freedom as a niffin but to be fair, if she had a chance to bring her brother back w/ his shade then she would've 100% done it without a doubt. I might just be blanking right now. but did the show ever explain why exactly Mayakovsky is the most powerful magician on Earth? Family lineage or just because? I'm also confused about Sylvia. I feel like there has to be more to her story but since the season finale is next week, then maybe not. Is her dad someone we might meet next season? Was she always destined to die and she wanted her book to fix her fate? Poor Penny. I wonder if he's going to be in next week's episode?

I enjoyed this episode. I wish we could have had the chance to see more of the underworld but it was overall good. The little kids performing miracles in elysium were so cute and I loved little shade! Alice and little shade! Julia. When I saw that Julia brought back Alice's shade instead of her own I immediately thought about that being a really great thing to do for Quentin, but now I wonder if maybe Julia doesn't want her shade back? Richard and Julia's friends were back! They appear to be doing okay too, I'm glad they at-least aren't alone in the underworld. I enjoy Penny's library centered story-lines but I'm not sure where they're going with the poison room plot: it seems a bit late in the season to introduce something so new for Kady and Penny.

Who is Alison? ETA: Oh, never-mind, I just realized you meant Alice! I don't personally see a Julia and Q hook-up coming any-time soon or ever. Q and Julia are those type of best friends that are just always going to be very close even though they might do horrible things to others and to each-other on occasion. He did have that huge crush on her in Season 1 that she thankfully did not reciprocate because if she wasn't feeling it then she didn't owe him anything romantic..but they seem to have moved forward. Margo and Eliot are the package deal it appears and I wish the show would give Margo her own plot, even with Fillory..she shares that story-line with Eliot. The writing for Margo is better this season and she she has the fun one-liners but I'd like more for the character. If anything, Alice's death has kind of really reinforced the validity of Q and Alice in a strange way (to me). I like that the writers didn't attempt to rush or gloss over Quentin grieving the loss of Alice. Also, it's nice to see that the characters acknowledged on more than one occasion the sacrifice Alice made with her life to get rid of The Beast. JMO though!

http://nerdist.com/see-what-the-magicians-are-up-to-next-in-this-supertease-exclusive/ Just saw the wondercon superteaser and I am even more excited now for the rest of the season than I was last week!

I don't think it's possible to restart the time loop because the watcher woman/ Jane Chatwin was murdered by Martin last season and she had the magical stopwatch that allowed her to do so...without her/it, nothing can be restarted or reset.

So, first off, Margo majorly fucked up and it kind of annoys me that she doesn't seem remotely sorry toward Fen. Not okay. Second, the ending to the episode got me majorly excited for next week. Quentin and Julia going to the underworld for her shade! And what looks like a dragon! Yassss! The scene with Q and Alice from the 27th iteration broke my heart a bit. Poor Alice from that universe looks so exhausted and just emotionally broken. I really thought for a sec that Q would break Fogg's rules and try to touch Alice but he didn't. He said he loved her <3 I'm really feeling their relationship MUCH more this season than I ever did in the first. Chemistry is more apparent or something between the actors. Todd, Josh, and the librarian are some of my favorite reoccurring characters!

Ah yes, I do remember that being mentioned on the show. But how can Margo possibly be allowed to give away Fen's baby without any input from Fen? Don't magical deals in fairy-tales usually require the permission of the person who is directly involved (Fen or Eliot)?

I understand why Quentin didn't let (niffin) Alice out to kill Reynard, he's still in love with Alice and even though its not really Alice anymore.he still is holding on to a little bit of hope that she'll come back somehow. Julia doesn't really feel love or many emotions at the moment so she had no problem tossing Q to the wolves so to speak. It was harsh but nothing will come of it. One thing I didn't understand now that I've thought about it is how was Margo possibly allowed to make a deal to give Fen's baby to the fairies. It's not her child in any way, how can she promise it to someone? Fen is technically married to Elliot, doesn't that make her a queen too?

The new husband was on HEROES on NBC a few years ago. I can't quite remember his character name, but he did good work. Yes, Chris Gorham I remember from his days on Popular (Ryan Murphy's first show I believe) on The WB. Love the addition of these actors to the show!

Damn Julia, just..what the fuck? Hoping that Quentin will buy a clue and stop making endless excuses for his "best friend" because tonight she really screwed him over hardcore. Penny was the voice of reason tonight and it was refreshing to see. I figured out that Chris Gorham's character was going to be Reynard's son a few weeks ago so that was a cool reveal :)

I really wonder what the hell niffin Alice is up to when she's in control of Quentin? Is she trying to help herself and her brother deep down? Is it all just to fuck with Quentin and a selfish pursuit? I felt awful for poor Quentin tonight. Jason Ralph did a good job at just making Quentin seem utterly exhausted, scared, and a bit crazy from being haunted by Alice. I did like that it was Penny who really took a closer notice and figured out that something wasn't right with Quentin. I cracked up laughing when Kady knocked out Quentin so Penny could get in his head.

I hate annoying teens on television and holy hell is Reese's (character's) daughter annoying, disrespectful, and just downright awful. Good first episode, very intriguing.

Also, what is it with Julie Plec's fixation on Damon? This is now the SECOND time she or the writers have mentioned that she changed the character who died or received the cure from Damon to Katherine and from Damon dying to Stefan. Why even mention that? Her and Caroline Dries obsession with Damon and/or Ian ruined the show. I will always remember Season 1 fondly but this show will not be a classic 15 or 20 years from now.

This is why actors on tv shows shouldn't date their co-stars. After Ian and Nina broke up, relationships on the show were inevitably affected. That was an utterly underwhelming yet predictable ending for the show. No major surprises, it was obvious Stefan was going to die halfway through this season. In the end, Damon got away with everything and got everything he wanted while Stefan faced consequence after consequence. Oh well, I wish the actors good luck in their next roles.

I was a little irritated at seeing Julia in Alice's room for some reason. I don't know, it just seems like Julia still doesn't give a fuck about what she did to the others (especially Alice) with her single minded determination to destroy Reynard. I understand Julia has been hurt badly and traumatized but Alice sacrificed everything for her friends and Quentin while Julia sometimes comes off as petulant and selfish. Its like she doesn't understand why Quentin or Margo/Eliot/Penny might be angry at her, she just knows they're mad. I hope Kady keeps that kick ass electric whip, it'd come in handy in battle. Niffin Alice is so awesome, the uninhibited comments she makes are pretty funny.

Alice is back! I love the character so much that a tiny part of me is glad to have her around even though its not really her. I felt so da/ mn bad for Quentin this episode and even Alice's parents. Her dad was clearly grieving and trying to get things done and I'm even pleased that they didn't have Alice's mom do an about face and change her character into someone who was sincere/ effusive about her loss. She was the same woman we met in Season 1. I know that Dana lady really fucked up by knocking Julia out and screwing with her but shit, I don't wish Reynard on anyone. I have a guess on who Dana's child is that she gave away years ago based on casting info but I'll keep it to myself (for now) to see if it ends up being right! I really like Kady and Julia's friendship. It started off rather reluctantly, but I genuinely believe in them as friends.

They should've arrested Grundy. She's gross as hell for what she did. I still like Betty a ton!

Yeah, Marina was the kind of "evil" character I thoroughly enjoyed. I would've hardcore begged for my life but she was pretty tough in front of Reynard. I'm not even going to pretend otherwise, I VERY much hope the show finds some way to have Alice pop up now and then throughout the season because she is my favorite character and I really like what the actress has done on the show. I felt so bad for her and Quentin. I thought for a second that he was going to try to bind her like he did with her brother but then I realized he didn't have that box.

Poor Alice :( and Quentin. They were so sweet and then how it all ended... Hell, I even felt bad for Marina in this episode. No one deserves to die that way. I can't help but feel that Julia majorly fucked up and is still screwing shit up. Like Julia getting in the damn way caused Alice to miss her shot. Damn Julia, she needs to get her shit together (I know she was brutalized and deserves justice..but her single-minded hunt for revenge is becoming a problem.)

The Beast singing show tunes lol, I love it! And yeah, I think Julia is a bit deluded if she thinks her "friends" are still going to want to be her friends after how she screwed them over. Quentin and Alice seem to be working through things in time. I need more of Marina/Julia/The Beast. I found that trio hilarious together.

I also really wish that student/teacher "relationships" would stop being glorified on TV and stop being portrayed as sexy or romantic. Its not cute, its not okay, and I don't give a damn if the actor playing Archie looks like an adult..on the show he is supposed to be 15 years old and the teacher committed a crime by screwing him. I had the same issue with the mess on Pretty Little Liars for Ezra/Aria. Ezra's creepy ass should have been hauled off to prison for years for what he did.

I liked it enough to watch a few more episodes. I think mainly I'm just exhausted by all the supernatural (vampires/magic/demons) shows and I'm beyond tired of the endless superhero stuff on the CW so I'm willing to give this show a chance. I feel for poor Betty and I liked Veronica too, but Archie reminds me a little of Lucas from OTH..which is not a good thing. One thing I really disliked was the narrator. I don't remember which Sprouse twin is on this show, but something about the way he speaks/ does the narration is annoying to me.

He wasn't even a particularly interesting boy!! That's almost the worst part. Definitely not worth a multi-episode arc. I feel like a creepy old lady for saying so, but the kid who plays Farkle ended up MUCH cuter than the kid who plays Lucas. None of them are excellent actors or anything but Lucas was dull 90% of the time. I did find it funny how he always looked like he should've been in his senior year of high school though when the other kids were mostly age appropriate.

Just popping in to add that the writers' twitter really helped turn me off from the show and just kind of reinforced my thoughts that they didn't know what they were doing. Some were insufferable. They spent so much time trying to be faux-deep and cryptic that it ended up being too much. Its not that long ago that I was a teenager, and IMO real teens don't act like Riley and her friends. If the show does somehow miraculously get saved by Netflix, I'll check it out to see if its improved. But by the way Jacobs has talked in his recent interview and the tweets from the writers, they seem to think the writing was excellent and it was all Disney's fault. Not every episode needs a poorly explained lesson from Cory and the writers needed to pick a personality for Riley: either too stupid to function (Eric 2.0) or an intelligent young woman who makes as many A's as Topanga did.