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I'm glad Amy and the baby look healthy. FWIW, Jill posted something on Amy's announcement of her c-section and it was supportive, kind, positive, etc. . I don't remember but it was something like "Yay! You're having a baby!". And yes Jill definitely started her comment with Yay!.

There's a registry for Kendra on Amazon. It looks like legitimate, but might be fake. Most of the items are like diapers and things which get used up fast. It says her due date is November 6th.

I'm glad Amy is listening to her doctors. You go Amy! You do you! Stay strong! You got this! I've had several friends who've had c-sections and several friends born by c-sections. It makes me really mad to see people trying to make women feel lesser for having c-sections. You have to do what's best for the mother and the baby and sometimes that's a c-section. C-sections saved the lives of some of my loved ones. Anyway most of the comments I see on Instagram are nice. I'll leave this piece of idiocy from the comments for people to laugh at: "I sure wish you could use your voice to empower women to be educated on birth. A small frame or "big baby" is never a reason to have a planned c-section. Being healthy with a low-rise birth is to attempt to deliver naturally. I would think that the midwife in your family would have made sure you were educated on such a monumentally important topic. This makes me sad for you, I'm not trying to be judgey, but my doctor also told me the exact same thing and I refused the planned section and delivered a healthy baby vaginally. These experiences shouldn't be chosen for us through lack of education about birth and convenience in the part of your doctor. The big baby/small frame excuse is a myth and a lie in 99% of cases." Yes the midwife in Amy's family would know more than a doctor.🤨 Also the midwife in the family had two huge babies that required her to have c-sections.

Kendra's dress is pretty, but would look better without the belt and the second skirt.

Joe and Kendra seem equally arranged to me, but more compatible. I mean both Joe and John married women who are equally fundie as Josh's and Josiah's wives. I think the parents are happy with all four daughter-in-laws. I do think John's being older helps.

Good observation! Maybe they're all at ALERT. Maybe one of them is courting someone and her parents are watching out for them. Maybe the boys are courting a family with multiple available daughters. The boys were shown cooking a little, but generally men don't do laundry or cook. So who is looking after the adult boys?

Her own mother did sister moms. I mentioned this before, but in the uncut version of Jill and Derick's wedding, Lauren and her family are there. Lauren is minding the toddler and seems bored, but attentive.

Teri and Steve Maxwell are recommending books by Dr. Joel Fuhrman's books The End of Heart of Disease and Eat to Live. They are on a new diet for Steve's heart: "With The End of Heart Disease eating plan, we (Steve and I) don’t eat: meat, dairy, sugar, refined grains, oil, or salt (For those who are healthy, small amounts of meat are acceptable according to Dr. Fuhrman’s Eat to Live.) We eat vegetables, fruit, beans and legumes, nuts and seeds, and whole grains. We have learned a whole new way of eating and even preparing food. Who knew you could stir fry without oil or cook without salt? Steve has lost 30 pounds, and according to Dr. Fuhrman’s recommendations has a few more to lose (possibly 10). I think he looks great, he feels good, and we recently climbed a 14er in Colorado. His cardiologist says with what he is eating, he is fine not being on a statin. The most amazing part is: after jettisoning everything we knew and loved about food, we are actually enjoying this new way of eating. " Their adult children who live at home are not on the diet.

The Websters have quite a few grandchildren. They had six kids and so far most of their kids have at least 3 or 4 children. They're not necessarily quiverfull. One of her inlaws just had a baby who was in the nicu for a little bit. I guess Alyssa might be babysitting for that family.

John David's sister-in-law Carinna Burnett is engaged to a man named Daniel Penn. She's 23. FJ has the facebook announcement. The Burnetts have 8 kids. Most of them are married. Carinna's twin sister is still single and so is the youngest who's a boy.

When does the new season start?

I don't think it's tempting fate. However the emojis are a man (Si), a woman (Lauren), angel baby (Asa) and a pregnant woman/baby bump (unborn child).

I like the bride's wedding dress. She should wear what she wants. If Jeremy wants to be a celebrity, he should get a manicure before big events.

It's a girl for Carlin and Evan! Layla Rae Stewart is due in February! Katie Bates turned 19 today. Last year her sister Josie got married on Katie's birthday. Now Carlin announces it's a girl on her birthday.

Yes Michael James Duggar is named after Michael "Mike" Keller and James "Jim Bob" Duggar. That's a good point about middle names. I could easily see Grace being a middle name or even a first name.

If I didn't know which was which, I wouldn't be able to tell which one is Laura and which one is Jana. They look a lot alike.

Which Bates sister is in the photo? I can't tell.

David's family is large; the Wallers still have 8 children and 14 grandchildren (and will probably have more to come). I still feel sorry for the family, particularly her parents. I feel most sorry for the young woman herself. She had her whole life ahead of her.

Abbie's post (above) about her pregnancy confirms she's due in early January as the FJ poster revealed. The hashtag 25 weeks gives her a due date of January 11 (+- a few days), according to Duggar data.

I think the picture is entirely innocent. However I wouldn't put such a picture on the internet. For one thing pervs (meaning adults on-line, not innocent babies). For another, the kids might go through a phase where they wouldn't want such a photo public.

They play the Red Baron song at Christmas time and the band had multiple hits about Snoopy (the dog from Peanuts). I think Ruth will be incorporated into the name since Abbie based her wedding vows on the book of Ruth.

I think they were comparing the seminar to the dave ramsey's book. Since most people weren't at that seminar, they were recommending the book by Ramsey instead.

JB and Michelle definitely like Ramsey. I've never heard of Simmons. Here's a quote from an interview with JB and Michelle in the Family Review Guide from 2014: FRG: Now, okay, we’ll do a lighthearted one, a question somebody had. How much food does it take to feed a family your size and what did you do in the early years? JB: It probably takes over a thousand dollars per month of food now. It’s relatively—the kids are getting bigger and the food costs are going up and it feels like everything’s just more expensive nowadays. Over 30 years, and the purpose, back about 24 years or so ago, to get out of debt and stay out of debt, and so we went through a financial seminar that was so life changing for us. It’s very similar to Dave Ramsey’s “Financial Peace”, and so we encourage people to go through that and purposefully get out of debt. And I really don’t – a lot of people say, “How can you make it without debt?” and I ask families, “How can you make it with debt, because you’re paying 10-12% more for everything that you buy every year, and I can’t afford to pay the interest.”

JB and Michelle are Dave Ramsey followers. I'm pretty sure that Derick and Jill got his name/books/ideas from her parents. His financial ideas dovetail nicely with Gothardism/IBLP. I'm not sure how much Derick and Jill really follow Ramsey.

Sarah Mally is the author of Before You Meet Prince Charming and other fundie books. She is a fundie SAHD. Her family has three children: Sarah, Stephen, and Grace. Sarah Mally is 39/40, her brother is 33/34 and her sister Grace is 30/31. Grace is engaged and getting married in the beginning of November. Her family announced the engagement. I got this newsletter from FJ: Dear Friends, Hello from the Mally family and Bright Lights staff! It Finally Happened – By Harold Mally A Mally daughter is getting married! I wondered if it would ever happen. Sarah and Grace have been content, focused on what God has given them to do and excited about it. They certainly wanted to marry, but, of course, they wanted God’s will and God’s timing. It was my conclusion that God was keeping the boys away for a while because the Bright Lights ministry with girls required fulltime investment. I had wondered if that was going to be permanent or if God would eventually bring marriage into the picture. Yep. He has. Grace and Josiah Moffitt are getting married on November 2nd. Our whole family is so encouraged to see God’s mighty hand in bringing them together. Grace will share more details at some point in the future. But this is my article, not hers. It’s not an easy task being a father, as all you fathers know, but it’s the most wonderful thing. I didn’t know that years ago. As a result, it was only by God’s grace that we have Grace at all. Hence her name, “undeserved gift.” This is a lengthy and miraculous story that I can’t tell in this short email about this undeserving father. But every father has a grace story. We need only to list the miracles we all have from God’s hand in the lives of the kids He entrusts to us. As fathers we want the best for our daughters. We protect them. We teach them. We answer their questions – well, we try. We pray for them. We take them out for coffee to answer more questions. 🙂 (Grace has always been a big question-asker.) We have the joy of working together on ministry projects. When they are little we tell them stories at bed time. When they grow up we have long discussions about life, people, family, direction, the Bible, Christ and ministry. They ask us which outfit we think looks the best. They ask what we think they should say in response to certain people and situations. They look to us for counsel. They keep life interesting and challenging and rewarding. Years ago I started a project for my daughters called the “Othniel Project.” You might recall the account in Joshua 15 and Judges 1 of what Caleb did to find a husband for his daughter. It seemed to me to be a pretty good plan. He made an offer. To whomever attacks the city of the giants and takes it I will give my daughter Achsah as wife. :-) We don’t have the same kind of giants today, but we have other kinds of giants and huge spiritual battles. So I began praying for and looking for a giant killer. More on this later, maybe next month. I had expected both of my daughters to be married already. They knew lots of people and had lots of friends. But no boyfriends came into the picture. I did some exploring for them, but I was unsuccessful on my own. Truly it’s something only God can do. In the meantime, what God did do was gather other girls who had a heart for discipleship and organize them into a ministry team, mentoring younger girls through conferences and Bright Lights groups. It’s been exciting and we look forward to what’s next. We anticipate many changes—good ones! But God does not change. “Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and today, and forever” (Hebrews 13:8). But He brings growth and we change as He works in our lives. God’s changelessness is our security and stability. We confidently and expectantly anticipate the wonders of His unfolding plans. So, what is going to change on November 2nd? Hmmm. Here are some rambling thoughts from a father: · We will have another empty room in the house (Stephen has had his own apartment for a few years now). · We will gain a new wonderful family member. · There will be an adjusted authority structure as Grace is transferred to the protection and leadership of her husband. · Many normal family routines will be adjusted. (Like I won’t get as many of Grace’s homemade pies and she won’t make me coffee in the morning.) · A new ministry team will be formed as two people come together and are strengthened by each other. · Many more good things because God is an endless source of good and all His purposes are good. The words in Isaiah 25:1 are among many Bible verses that express my thankfulness to God for His help and grace to an undeserving father. “O LORD, You are my God. I will exalt You. I will praise Your name, For you have done wonderful things; Your counsels of old are faithfulness and truth.” . . . To be continued