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Whoever paid for it or didn't $150,000 worth of dental implants? What are they implanting, Diamonds? Sonja is certifiable.

Wait, they filmed the anniversary party on what appeared to be someone's balcony or perhaps building rooftop. I had asked about that at the time if any New Yorkers could enlighten mne as to whether the pool was theirs, or whether it was like my condo where we have a community pool. But ours is a regular old in ground number not a rooftop pool so that kind of fascinated me. And denture adhesive.

I suspect it's a combination of the name and the title. Aside from being Jackie's sister, I understand that Lee was pretty well known in her own right in NY social circles and was often named among the best dressed women. Most of those women are old enough to remember it, although ironically probably not Heather or Kristen who seem to be her biggest supporters. Heck I am sure Sonja probably hung out with Lee. And Jackie. And Prince Ranier and anyone else famous..

It was an honest mistake. You have to admit the resemblance is uncanny.

I do agree with the comment that there should be more Brittish women. I didn't care much for Annabelle, it doesn't seem anyone else did, but they could replace her and bring in a couple more Britt's IMO. That said, I really don't want to get rid of the American women either, because, with the exception of Marissa, the others are so snarkworthy it would be ashamed to lose them. However, I would really like to see a bit more of the Natives.

Was that Camilla? I thought it was Charles with his horse. I liked Southern Charm but it did have to grow on me, but even at the end I did not like it anywhere near as much as Ladies of London. I am sorry to see it go.

I used to work with a guy that was charged with Wire Fraud by the US Government because, of course, that is a federal crime. What he really did was steal money that had been wired into his company to pay off loans on various (innocent) people's mortgages. At any rate, he insisted he was innocent right up until the day he plead guilty. According to him, he was advised by his attorney that when there is significant evidence against you and you do not plead guilty you are basically assured a stiffer sentence than when you just go ahead and plead. I assume this is the reason Joe and Theresa plead guilty. In the case of the scumbag I worked with, he did not tknow what his sentence would be when he entered his plea, only that, at least according to legal advice, it would be less severe than going to trial. This is tough to call. On the one hand courts often want to make examples of celebrities. I seriously doubt that a non celebrity accused of doing what Martha Stewart did would have ever seen one day of jail time. It just wasn't that serious. I think her celebrity worked against her( and no I am not a fan, just stating my honest opinion). For that reason i think a judge will be reluctant to let Theresa off without at least some jail time. I do think, however, that it is very likely they will serve time consecutively and I think it is a certainty that she will serve less time than he does. I only made it through half the episode, again, because I cannot stand listening to these two whine about what they have brought on themselves. I especially hate listening to it while they live in a mansion and are having what appears to be a very plentiful Christmas. The dog was the final straw for me last week. Not only does it, of course ,have to be a designer puppy WTF are they doing taking on a dog when they could well end up in prison with 4 kids to be looked after by relatives? Typical selfisth behavior by those two criminals. There is not one person on this show that I actually like, but I hate Joe and Theresa. They are truly despicable people.

So True. All of it. I hate Brandi, but this show was painfully boring and Eddie and Leann both look like bigger assholes than ever. Obviously no one in this train wreck has ever even heard of the high road, much less considered taking it. Those poor, poor children.

I have said it before and, as the season ends, they could fire the entire cast, with the lone exception of the Countess, and I really coudn't care less. I actively want Aviva gone, and I believe she is, or soon will be. I also actively want whiny Kristen and her douchebag hubby gone. I have gone from actually thinking she might, possibly, be a good addition to the show, in spite of her poor taste in BFF's to thinking I cannot stand one more crying Kristen scene. The rest, can pretty much go to. Or stay. I don't much care. I hate to say it, but I just may finally have reached Housewife burn out. I have watched these shows since the very first Orange County Show. Every one, with the lone exception of MIami, although I did try with that one too. I just couldn't. I even watched the Washington one and didn't hate it. Then, last year, halfway through the season on NJ I was done with that one. Again, I just did not like even one of the women on the show, and could not stand Theresa or Melissa or their disgusting husbands. Now, I am meh on NY and OC and actually liked Ladies of London better than any of the HoWives. They may have just overdone this whole concept.

I really enjoyed this show and am surprised it was such a ratings dud, especially with RHOOC as a lead in. I also liked The Real Housewives of DC and cannot undertand the appeal of Below Deck at all. i did kinda get into Blood Sweat and Heels, but I much prefer Ladies of London. I ended up loving Caroline, which is certainly the last thing I had expected based on previews. I don't think it will be renewed though. I think that whether or not there is a reunion seems to be the basic sign on renewal. They had one for Blood Sweat and Heels, Below Deck and Southern Charm and they have all been given a second chance in spite of so-so ratings.

Why isn't it coming back? I really enjoy this show.

Because he is being forced into a fake storyline that requires he hang around Sonja? Oh, and the one time it appears he actually tried to settle down he did it with that lunatic Aviva? Staying drunk may well be his key to survival

I had to watch just to see how they would try to sell it, but i know I just cannot with this group. Can someone please explain to me how if Joe and Teresa are so broke, and have such excessive legal bills and can't send their kids to college (cuz, yeah we all know that higher education is a priority in the Guduice gang......uh I mean home), yet bitch has a make up artist come to her house to prepare for a party? Seriously? Maybe it's just me, but on my list of priority expenses, a make up artist must fall pretty damn low because I have never, ever hired one. But then, if I did I would have to pay for it with money earned, not stolen. I quit watching last year mid season because I was so sick of watching both the trashy Gorga's and Guduices argue constanty, but I think this season would be even harder to take watching them all pretend to be one big, "together" family facing tragedy. Except, here's the thing. Cancer is a tragedy. Losing a child is a tragedy. Lesser, but still major tragedies are losing your long term job and not finding another, or invesing your life savings with a crook and losing it all. Having to answer for lying, cheating and stealing? NOT a tragedy. It is what is supposed to happen when you lie, cheat and steal. The ONLY people I felt sympathy for last night were the kids. They are the only innocents in this. However, with all due respect, I may be BRAVOS bitch but the appeal is certainly not watching innocent, bewildered children crying because their lowlife parents have messed up all their lives with their greed. THAT is not entertaining. THAT is not what we watch the HoWives for. Sure, flipping tables, Shannon or Aviva freaking out over nothing, HoWives fighting, bitching and yes, even crying endlessly (I am looking at you Kristen) I can tolerate. But innocent kids in tears? Not so much. There was, IMO, zero entertainment last night. BRAVO is on the wrong path with this. I had far more sympathy for Martha Stewart, even though I have never liked her, than I do for these two. An insider stock tip is not nearly as bad and she did time. Teresa is either dumber than dirt, or crazy. Neither is appealing.

Totally agree. Two puppies at once? Maybe she can hire a dog nanny. Otherwise, yes, by the time they have moved into the Dubrow Hilton, those puppies will be re-homed. God, at least I hope she will go to that much effort. Or make a big donation to a rescue to get them to handle it for her.

It is simply an untrue and very damaging statement to imply that dogs are in rescue because of behavior issues. Unless you men the behavior of the idiots that adopted puppies and had no idea they would require work. Or the idiots that buy a pure bred to breed in their backyard, as my own Shih Tzu was, until she developed mammary cancer because she was never spayed and then dumped her in the shelter. She is a perfect dog and I have been asked to train her as a therapy dog due to her wonderful temperment. There are people that dump their dogs at the shelter because they are going on vacation and won't pay for boarding. That is why Summer and Christmas are the two busiest seasons for Shelters. They just figure after they get back from vacation they can to the shelter and get another puppy, for much less money than it would cost to board them. There are people that have never made the slightest effort to train their dogs and then dump them because they jump on people when they are excited. I suppose you can call that "behavioral" but the rescuer people will have corrected that behavior for you, or if they haven't yet completed the training they will certainly let you know. I have already said that Heather had a right to buy whatever dog she wanted as everyone does. This is America. I just wish people like her would own it and stop trying to throw rescue dogs under the bus to justify their preference for buying puppies. Rescue dogs are like any other dogs. Some have issues, some do not. If you go to a rescue, you will be informed of the issues, if they exist, and you can make an informed decision as to whether or not you want to take them on. That's all. Heather is fully within her rights. She is just a pretentious phony about it.

Some dogs in rescue have issues, Many do not. If you get them from an actual Rescue Group where they have lived in someone's home you can determine if they have issues such as snapping, not good with kids, other dogs, or cats. I have had many, many rescue dogs. My one boy that I have now can be mildly aggresive with unneutered male dogs. He has never bitten one, but he will try to intimidate. Since he is a 14 pound poodle mix,, and will try to intimidate an unneutered Pit Bull, I have to watch him when we are in contact with intact males which, fortunately, is rare. All of my other rescue dogs have been good with kids, cats, other dogs. I just don't want to leave the myth out there that all rescues have "issues". If anyone is concerned or has small children, I would advise a rescue group as opposed to a shelter just so you know how the dog has done in someone's home with children, other dogs or cats or all three. That still opens up a spot in the Rescue so they can go save another dogs life at the Shelter. Rescues do not want you to take a dog that will not do well in your home. If you check rescue sites you will often see "No Cats" "No Kids" etc. However there are many others that will tell you the dog is good with all three. Although I have never had a "problem" rescue I have had many that were insecure, scared, timid, etc. Watching them blossom into happy, confident dogs is one of the most rewarding feelings I have ever experienced. There is nothing like the way you feel when you realize that your rescued dog has finally realized they are "Home". I highly recommend it!

And Lisa Vanderpump has a dog with a chronic health issue (who has become a star in his own right. Giggy is definitely my favorite member of the BH Cast) that both she and her husband adore. I would bet my next paycheck that if either of those sweet desinger puppies the Dubrows just purchased were to develop any type of "problem" particularly one that might have an effect on their appearance, they would be "sent to live of a wonderful farm" before you can say "Pretentious, lying bitch".

No Pun intended, but BRAVO! I don't for one minue think Heather is stupid (Tamra, yes, Heather, no). She just plain flat out lied about the dog situation. She would have done better to just act clueless about rescue. I used to like Heather, but I am done with her. But I still hate Shannon more.

I live in So Ca. and, in addition to my two mutts, I always have to have a Shih Tzu. My first rescue was an 11 year old Shih Tzu that had been taken back to rescue 3 times and was just deserate to be loved. She certainly found it here, I adored her, but because of her age and a heart ailment, I had her a little less than 4 years. I have always been able to find Shih Tzu in rescue. I know for a fact there are tons of poodles in rescue. In fact, one of my mutts is part poodle. Some people tell me they think he is full bred. I have no idea, I just tell them not to say it too loud because he is convinced he's a Rotweiller. Heathers story was Bullshit. She wanted two designer dogs and she wanted the color, age etc. to be exact. That's her right. Just stop tyring to pretend you give a damn about the thousands of homeless animals out there. You don't. In fact, judging from Terry's surprise at her announcement, I suspect she doesn't even like animals, designer breed or not. She reacted to his suggestion to rescue a cat pretty much like I would react if my husband suggested we get a Python. Heather is just phony. That fact doesn't mean that Shannon is not a lunatic. The two things are certainly not mutually exclusive.

I almost felt sorry for Ramona watching Mario dismiss her. Not that I blamed him, she is a pain in the Ass. Still, she is clearly in love and he clearly is not. At least not with her. Done, done and done with Sonja. It is past pathetic and what she did with telling Aviva about what everyone said about her. Seriously? She needs to decide if she wants to be sexy Sonja or a junior high school kid because that kind of tattling was certainly left behind by most of us in middle school -at the latest. Yes, Josh is a dickhead. No argument. But I have reached the point where it really doesn't matter what he does. Or what Heather does, or anyone else. When I see Kristen I just want to shoutt STFU! I cannot stand whiners. I could stomach her bitching easier than the whining and does she have to fake cry in every damn episode ? STFU Kristen and please, go away. Aviva is toast. Yeah. Still loving the Countess especially when she calls Ramona out on her BS.

This. One of my closest friends happens to be gay and I have never, ever referred to him as my "gay" anything. It is offensive to me. He is my friend, close friend, whatever. Just like I refer to my girlfriends. Actually one of my girlfriends is also gay, so is she my "gay wife" in HoWive land? Because I am straight, so that would seem a really weird reference. It would probably make Ramona's head explode.

This. I am officially done with Heather. A caller on WWHL called her out on it too. She did her usual tapdance-Miss know everything "didn't realize you could get a hypoallergenic dog from rescue". Bull. She knew. She wanted two cute little puppies of the specific breed (which isn't even an actual fricken breed, One of my rescued dogs is a full blooded Shih Tzu, the other two are mutts. Heathers are mutts too, they just have a designer name) Are they actually passing out "papers" for these designer dogs now? Don't get me wrong I love all dogs, and obviously have no problem with whether they are mixed or not and don't give a flying fig about papers I just hate phonies like Heather. Oh and what a great time to get puppies while they are renting, so they can pee on the landlords floor. I hope the landlord was watching and evicts her fancy ass. The David/Shannnon scene was raw and sad. However, if that man is not cheating I am the next Queen of England. Either that, or the whole damn thing is staged. I did think he hit the nail on the head though. She needs to learn to like herself. She seems to be drifting and searching, but not really finding anything. Meantime she is a nagging, annoying bitch. I don't believe in cheating, but there are times when you almost understand..... Tamra is a moron. The fake baby story should signal the producers to the fact that no one really cares about watching her any more. Lizzie still bores me. Who is that woman with Brooks and what have they done with Vicki? That woman is centered, reflective, calm and, dare I say, actually sounds almost.........well almost wise.

I seem to be totally hooked on this show. Go figure. Since the OC Howives are just not bringing it for me this season (who are you really, and what have you done with Vicki?), I find myself really looking forward to this show each week while the HoWives are still screeching on my screen. I fully expected, based on the previews of this show, to hate Caroline. I love Caroline. She is me, only with money and Royal friends (and a better body and prettier face and waaaay better clothes, but I digress). I am always the one that believes in telling the truth and I try to do it with a smile with friends. I love her honesty. I love that while she appears to genuinely have real money, and is certainly a real Brit, she seems willing to accept everyone, even the tackiest of tacky Americans, Juliet. While Caprice is a bitch with a nasty attitude and a really overrated opinion of herself, Caroline is just the kind of bitch I like. I realy tried with Juliet, but I just cannot anymore. She cearly is the perfect example of an ugly American. No tact whatsoever and no real personality that I can see. I hate Caprice. Other than Caprice, does anyone not hate her? At any rate, I am really liking this show. Hope it comes back for another year.

Shannon is horrible. She complains endlessly, nags endlessly and then whines and throws a tantrum because David took her meaning wrong? No, honey, he took that you are a raving bitch that bitches. He is correct. Shannon needs a job, except she wouldn't last in one a week because no one would work with her. I hate Shannon. And, Shannon, when you are looking at Brooks and Vicki as a "healthy couple" you are in serious trouble. What is truly tragic is that by comparison to David and Shannon they actually look healthy. Tamra is boring and I don't give a damn about the fake baby story line. That "fake" is intended in more ways than one because no one, absolutely no one, actually beleives there is a snowballs chance in hell you two would have a baby even if it were possible. You have ruined enough children Tammy., take a break. I'd suggest a puppy, but I love dogs far too much for such a thing. Ditto with kittens. Maybe a goldfish.Actually a snake might be a better fit. Once again, I was looking forward more to Ladies of London than I was enjoying OC. Not a good sign, me thinks.

I watched as much as I could stomach of Tori on WHHL, mainly because I like Jennie and feel that she has behaved like a class act going through her divorce. Jennie looked lovely. Tori looked like the cartoon she has become. I could only stand it for a while. She was so posing and kept looking at herself in the monitor. I had wanted to watch Mystery Girls, again for Jennie, even had it set to record, but then stopped it. I just can't with Tori. I also agree about her attitude towards her mother. Candi has been more than kind when asked about her daughter the embarassment and the freak show she and Dean put on. Yet Tori has to act all pained about her mom. Jennie was funny though. "What, my relationship with my mom? it's great...oh you're asking her?".