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Lol, I stand corrected. Most divorced people I know are not super involved in their exes lives, I guess that's not the norm😂

I don't think she has to be there to deal with their feelings, after all Kevin will be there. I wonder how many families invite ex husbands and wives to their parents' deathbeds just because they have children. It feels inauthentic.

It still makes zero sense to me why Toby would be included in this particular get together. Or Madison, frankly.

Sorry, I guess I'm not cool, what exactly is a "fuckboy?" Never even heard that term and will not be sorry if I never hear it again. I guess finding the love of her life in Elijah is what she needed to make her happy and bring out the best in her. I know people criticize the actress, but I think she's really sold the love she feels towards her kids and Elijah, plus a solid friendship with and enjoyment of Kevin, she's sort of been radiating happiness in her scenes. It makes sense that Beth would gravitate towards her.

If you read what I replied to, the person was solely blaming Kevin. And Sopie took a vow to her husband, no one knows if any religious ceremony was involved.

Sorry, but if Sophie cheats with Kevin, she is the one that broke up her own marriage, Kevin wasn't the one who had taken vows. It isn't a shining moment for him, but it drives me crazy when the unmarried party is supposed to take the blame.

We had VCRs in the 70's. Rebecca may be a bit naive, but who didn't know male porn stars had mustaches?

Of course Madison and Elijah would both be at the wedding as Kate's best friend with her husband, but to me there was no reason for either one of them to be in the family photo. It would be like having a remarried ex wife in the family photo if they had ever gotten married, you don't see that too often. Yep, as soon as Rebecca fondly remembered Kevin and Sophie and said they were just too young the first time around (and Kevin paying close attention), I was resigned to Sophie being end game as much as I wish it wasn't true.

Since he is a boy, he would have been more likely to be Ken or Keith rather than a 2022 name like Kai.

Well that's the current climate you see on Twitter, Facebook, or whatever social media platform. If you take a nanosecond to process a child coming out as gay or transgender or whatever, you are automatically whatever phobe and that's that.

No they don't. I'm interested to see how this plays out. I can't imagine Rebecca deciding she wants Toby at her death bed vigil when Kate (her best friend) has remarried years before. Unless it's Hailey, and even that's a stretch, I can't logically imagine a scenario where Toby would, post divorce, be a part of this🤔

Maybe he has been knighted and Kate, like Megan Markle is a duchess!

You forgot to mention that she was [never] willing to do anything to help save the marriage. It was always about Toby making compromises, but never Kate.

I'm so sorry. I also have had cancer, so when I had a mammogram with a questionable outcome that needed an explanation and followup conversation unceremoniously showed up in my portal late on a Friday afternoon, I was understandably anxious. Luckily I was able to reach one of my oncologists and she talked me off a ledge, but she was super pissed that they dump this information on patients instead of letting Dr's have the opportunity to convey it to a patient in person or over the phone. It was apparently new legislation that most medical professionals opposed, but I guess who cares about their opinion or patients mental well being anymore? I was furious and felt lucky that I had a caring enough physician that called me back on a Friday night.

Wow, that's really sad for both Kate and Toby. I can't imagine getting married knowing either 1.) You know your husband will never measure up to your dad or 2.) Your wife will always consider you less of a husband and father than her dad was. Ouch.

Believe it or not there are still a fair amount of young millennial women with more traditional values, at least in my world. Most of the ones I know took their husband's last name and some are even stay at home moms! Not my cup of tea, but to each their own. Haha, I had a more, shall we say, indelicate, response ready for that post, but I decided to delete it and attempt to be mature for once. Come join me at the perv table.

Yeah it was tastefully executed unless you were 15 years old at the theater with your best friend and her mother and her mother is like "what are they doing?" LOL. Will never forget that uncomfortable moment.

Even if he is able to, this goes back to the discussion of putting the family you created ahead of the family you were born into. It might work out if you're single and childless, but not too many spouses would find this arrangement acceptable and heartwarming when their own families are at stake.

Everyone keeps assuming Kevin will foot the bill for everything, but the reality is he has children of his own and we know he gets married. His new wife might not be so keen on their money being freely given to Kate, especially if they have additional children of their own.

I get this, but I can't imagine marrying someone who said this to me. It's like marrying a guy who already has kids saying my kids will always come first. It's absolutely the right thing to do and the way it should be, but why am I entering into a relationship where my needs and wants are always dead last in the family?

Ok, so I'm not 100% certain, but I believe a recurrence of cancer, especially an invasive form that requires a second round of chemo, is categorized as Stage 4 or Terminal. The discussion should have centered less around her ability to get pregnant and give birth and more about if she will survive to see her child grow up and, if not, what the plan is considering the father is also a cancer survivor. These shows handwaving " "cancer free" are disingenuous and frankly BS, it's pretty obnoxious in my opinion.

I love when siblings are close, I just don't think they should be put ahead of a spouse or child, nor should they interfere with spousal disagreements unless there is an impending threat. This is what bugs me about Kevin (mostly) and Randall (to a much lesser extent). Like someone else said, I can't imagine either Kevin or Kate butting into a fight Randall and Beth were having, neither of those two would allow it. I guess Kate, as the girl, needs protection🤮

I don't really understand why this bothers some people so much, was it better when they used fake brands? Maybe I'm just good at ignoring it. Somebody didn't watch enough Soprano's.🙂

Lol, you shouldn't hold back, tell us how you really feel. I guess the big three were way ahead of the curve in understanding that words are violence! Imagine the horror of being called a Chatty Cathy! I know, she was really not earning that dollar or so an hour teen babysitters were getting back then😂 Could not disagree more. I am firmly in the camp that believes the family you create should take precedence over the family you were born into. Cue many of my aunts, friend's mothers, etc. gleefully revealing they were pregnant when they got married in the old days😂 Virgins my ass. I had a boyfriend back in the 80's who insisted on changing my oil because, you know, masculinity and all. It took forever with him underneath the car and needing a jack and having to properly dispose of the oil, I seriously would have way rather paid the 19.95 at Jiffy Lube😂

This is totally shallow, but sometimes meeting a celebrity in person can be a let down. I used to go to a lot of auto racing events and Paul Newman was there quite often. In person, though the eyes are magnificent, he was tiny. I mean short in stature but also super thin. And very much balding. Still hot, but I bet a lot of the women with crushes would have towered over him.