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And the ex was with other people. I agree her reaction makes more sense. She is going through a growth period that is good for her.

All bachelor people move to LA. The bachelorette wasn’t going back to Tuscaloosa. And none of those men would’ve went back to Tuscaloosa except for maybe Luke so LA is a better location to sell a future husband on. That said, this is deflection. I wasn’t talking about Hannah. I was talking about what Tyler didn’t say because he knew it would sound better to talk about Jupiter and pretend to be a contractor. Tyler definitely pretended otherwise. All the bs about wanting Hannah after watching Hannah but then telling interviewers he never watched the show. All the bs about wanting a family and kids and being ready to give himself to someone. All the Jupiter talk when he was never planning to go back. Game well played but a game was played. He would be viewed totally differently if he said he was chasing a modeling career in NY, like Jed said about music. Totally differently, and he was smart enough not to say it while on the show.

I was referring to the Juliet bachelor party an interview where he goes on and on about boners and penises, a poster mentioned she was shocked by that and I was saying I think that’s who he is. Dumb, frat boy, jock. He is a barely there model. His edit only showed him talking about marriage and going back to Jupiter and selling houses when he has no interest in any of that. And probably didn’t want Hannah either. He played the game better than Jed by at least not showing up with a gf and knowing what to say. I didn’t hear him mentioning modeling, NY, his agents, once and he was in NY modeling before the show. Smart move. If he had, he wouldn’t have had all the fan fare and would have been seen the same as the rest. I’m aware of his tv spots and articles because of this show and opportunities it has presented him to further his reality tv career. I know he said he sold a house but reddit found out he didn’t have a license. He just worked for his dad. He was doing that before reality tv became an option. I don’t want to go back and forth about the guy because I saw on reddit what happens when you say you’re not a fan. To me, he is run of the mill bachelor guy and it is insane people try to put him on a pedestal when he is par the course. He just played the game VERY well. But he’s not smart enough to keep it going so he will go the way of Blake.

Decided to step in to this thread and catch up! I have a new perspective on Tyler. I think that interview is the real Tyler, not edited Tyler. Tyler just received a good edit. He greatly benefited from being up against Luke and Jed. I've been following him on social media and listened to his recent interviews. He is no contractor. Wannabe model now turned influencer, who really just wants to hang out and hook up. Nothing wrong with it but I believe he got a better edit after Jed's people story came out because Chris has never been fond of him. He is very much the dumb jock he told Nick he was. I think he has more freedom to be who he is and he was himself with Juliet. He just doesn't seem very smart or to have any substance. The community service he does is great but that's all he has going for him. I get why Hannah didn't choose him now. There have been a number of negative stories about him on reddit by women who were ran off. One said she heard from a friend of his that he said he never loved Hannah and knew just what to say. Another said she had sex wit him while his brother was in the same room on the floor. Another said he was a boat boy who just hooked up with lots of women and did nothing all day. Nothing wrong with him moving as single but his edit was very different. I was surprised when he was spotted leaving Hannah's overnight but now think his plan was to try to hook up with her and gigi and he could not do both because of the press. I'm also not surprised he is already done with Gigi. I don't think he ever wanted anything serious. I'm sure Gigi fell for his edit and he is less impressive up close. He fits right in with the rest. BIP next year here he comes because he isn't smart enough to say no and will have fallen from the spotlight by then.

Because her relationship with Jed was more advanced. Do you choose the guy you started trusting a week ago or the one you’ve trusted for weeks? She was already comfortable with Jed. Jed was already slotted for F1 before hometowns IMO. She wasn’t going to change in the last hr. not that any of this matters. She wouldn’t have worked with Tyler either if she chose him and won’t work now. Girl wants him now because the whole world does. She will be on to the next when the hype for him wears down. She’s no where near ready to settle down. IMO

Hannah just isn’t good at speed dating. She started out by putting the guys who were her typical type well at the front like Luke and Jed and Garett. In the beginning of filming season, it was said those were the ones she was really excited about and Tyler was mentioned as a guy she was attracted to but thought he was a player. I believe Ashley I said she visited her at the start of filming, and they joked about Tyler looking like a f*ckboi. So those three had a head start with Tyler just being a guy she thought was hot but she never planned to take seriously. She eventually figured out Garett and Luke weren’t her guys while filming and maybe also would’ve figured that out with Jed with more time. Tyler had been put in a too hot, player, not my type box early. I don’t think they even spoke the first night or had solo time the second week on the group date. IMO, if you sign up for a show like this, you need to be open to all possibilities. It was clear Hannah came on this show for a traditionally southern man in the same vain of the ones she had previously dated. I get it. There’s comfort in familiarity. But why are you on this show if you want to date guys like the ones you’ve dated in the past. Go back home and get one. JMO She mentioned on a podcast that she had never dated anyone like Tyler and followed up with “and that’s probably why they didn’t work out.” If nothing else, I hope her taste in men have improved in all this. The fact that she actually got engaged to Jed, a guy who showed little emotion for her, even on engagement day, with bad body language throughout the show, who’s family was rude to her face and told her they didn’t see it working, and whom made clear she wouldn’t be a priority because he was still chasing his dreams, shows her sense of self worth just wasn’t very high. That’s really all she thought she deserved. I’m not a huge fan, but she should want better for herself than she did when filming this show.

Yep. Boy was spotted hugged up with Josie conseco at the soho house, who looks just like his ex. He is def exploring his options and he has some good ones. https://m.imgur.com/gallery/oI6XOLo Ty and his ex he maybe should try to get back with the ex though. He said on Viall files she supported him when he was depressed after his football career went down but he wasn’t attentive. Maybe she’ll take him back now. Will be hard for him to find someone genuine now.

^ Idk the spoiler account said date and she had screenshots to prove it. Tyler's been living in NYC, chilling with hot models at the soho house, having runs with 100+ women fawning over. I think he's been living his life, as he should be. And I don't expect him to clear his texts, DMs, date calendar w/e for Hannah any time soon. My guess is that they keep it casual and it never blossoms into anything more because he has too many other options.

I love this conversation. I too think Luke is handsome. Took me awhile to realize it because he has crazy eyes on the show. But he's attractive on his ig page. .I put him second behind Tyler in her top 4. IA she is pretty equal to Jed. Peter looks like a boy. He also speaks like a middle schooler (i like you like never like can believe i can't like believe this like) He does zero for me. People think he's cute now but a bachelor season would be a bust. The windmill jokes and pilot puns can only take him so far. People will not find him appealing as the bachelor. I'd bet on it.

Folks have said this season DWTS is looking for bigger stars, celebrities.

You really think he's getting DWTS? My point was more so I don't see these two as actually being a couple. We'll see if they're still hanging out months from now. One reliable spoiler account apparently has proof of Tyler having a date this weekend with a girl he already went out with. according to reddit. This is the same account who had the jed pics in the bar flirting with another woman right after coming home. So Tyler's not trying to be tied down. Good for him.

I don't know if they are a real couple but they are dating casually IMO. His bff from NY was telling him to come home and finish their "hot boy" summer and Tyler's already heading back to NY. So I don't think it's that serious and it shouldn't be considering she dropped him two months ago and dropped her finance one month ago.

https://www.tmz.com/2019/08/02/bachelorette-hannah-fave-tyler-leaving-home-morning/ TMZ has pics

They are so MESSY for just walking around LA. Like if you're going to pretend that you are going to get drinks as friends and you need to catch up, you need to put off the early morning runs in LA of all places. This show is too big for them not to be spotted. Hannah also has freaking neighbors in her apartment building. just messy. Jed is still doing interviews too. I can only imagine the shade if he learns of this on his media tour.

I don't think so. Tyler was spotted in LA weeks ago. The show probably let them meet. They just didn't think it was a good look for Hannah to let viewers know that. They probably also saw each other when Tyler came back to LA for ATFR before the airing. Tyler and Hanna did not act like two exes who were seeing each other for the first time in months. IMO no way that was the first time.

On reddit, they are talking about tyler and hannah being spotted by someone walking in a neighborhood in LA this morning. I would say I didn't see this coming but... LOL They really sat on that couch and lied to millions about it being the first time they've seen or spoken to each other. No wonder Tyler didn't get more than 5 mins on the couch. He's no actor. ABC really ran with the single, independent woman ending, even though Hannah ran right back to Tyler. Hannah just didn't want to be dragged any more by viewers or Jed and Peter on their media runs. That's also why she played wingwoman for Peter and was so gracious to Jed. whew, I love mess.

The final two dates are "Meet the Parents" (MTP) and "Last chance date" (LCD).

Tyler and Jed were also friends. Right before the people mag drop, Jed said Tyler and Dylan were his closest friends in the house. That's another reason for Tyler to pretend he didn't slide in her DMs once he heard her relationship with Jed blew up. I told ya'll Tyler was spotted at the freaking grocery store in LA the same day as ATFR. Why does someone staying in a hotel for a few nights need to go to the grocery store? Who knows what's going on for sure. But, on reddit, a woman posted a pic of her and Tyler yesterday and said he did an audition (or w/e you call it for models) for her company in LA. He signed with an agency based with offices in NY and LA shortly Hannah's split with Jed, before he only had a MIA and NY agency. Tyler was also walking around in NY wearing LA hats prior to ATFR. Those two have been planning this. JMO I'm a tyler fan that's not happy about this. But I've been stalking him all season and can't ignore the evidence right in front of me. LOL

They likely have already been “dating.” Her brother wouldn’t post that if they weren’t. I remember right before the hometowns episode her brother directly tweeted at Tyler and called him “bro”. Tyler’s mom has also been posting and liking things supporting them for awhile. One of Tyler’s brothers commented on one of Hannah’s pics weeks ago with something supportive. And his other brother who is in the freaking military follows her. Their families’ actions indicate this has been going on, my guess is since Hannah stopped Jed. They just don’t want people to know. JMO

Hmm I didn’t get that impression at all. I don’t think they did. LCD didn’t change anything for Hannah IMO. She knew it was too late for them when she cried after their FD. She still was planning to choose Jed and not willing to take a risk on Tyler. That’s why their reactions during her dumping him during the FRC was measured. Tyler knew it wouldn’t be him, unlike Peter at the F3 ceremony. another reason Tyler has been supportive of her all season and is probably willing to get that drink and move to the next chapter is because she never led him on like she did the other men.

As lead, you don't really know any of your contestants. You go based on limited information and have to really just go with your gut. You really need self-confidence and considerable relationship experience to make a good decision. Jed, by telling her about his wrong reasons for being there, became someone she thought she could trust through all of this. He also won a lot of people over with how he handled walking in on her and Luke, appeared confident and cool, but seems he wasn't really liked that in real life. Luke also made it clear he signed up for her. She also probably had dated men like them before. She admitted she had never dated a guy like Tyler. Her exes were on her instagam and well...no Tylers. lol Jed and Peter are the definition of average. Luke to me is slightly more handsome than them. None are Tyler. I've felt bad for Hannah because the girl is clearly or was very insecure. I do believe her when she said during filming, she couldn't believe Tyler was really into her. That's why she never really considered him and didn't want to sleep with him. She didn't want to end up with egg on her face, ironically. Let's face it, Peter is cute, but not threatening (physically), so she could believe he was genuine. She didn't realize until FS Tyler was actually interested, which is why she was crying the next morning. It was too late for them. Their dynamic was just like Rachel and Bryan's from two seasons ago but Rachel was older, more mature and confident. So she chose Bryan despite questioning whether he was too good to be true. And let go of her Jed (Peter). JMO

Those two are obviously talking. Not sure why she would do all this on camera (explaining her decisions). She can meet him in person and tell him not try to have an awkward conversation with him on camera. My guess is she already had to some extent, which is why he said yes to this preplanned date request. JMO I get uncomfortable watching awkward, hard conversation so I’m glad they kept it light and kept the serious conversation for later, if they want to have one. It’s not the typical F2/lead scenario where they haven’t talked and don’t plan to in the near future so they have to have the awkward conversation in front of cameras. —- re Jed, Hannah was so stubborn re Luke. She must have not been all thrilled with Jed before the magazine drop. I agreed with others that said their loved up videos were cringe and awkward. My guess is He started to show his true colors in other ways before the magazine drop. It’s very clear he didn’t take this process or their engagement very seriously. JMO I think if she was happy with Jed until that point, she would’ve forgiven him for Haley.

He absolutely seems interested to me. No, he didn't touch her during ATFR. But he was turned toward her and leaning into her, almost off his seat. Plus their comments are too synchronized, and he was randomly bringing her up on Nick's podcast and seemed bothered by Nick's suggestion of her getting another season, and she was cheesing up a storm on GMA today. It's baffling. Maybe the fact that she rejected him made her more appealing than all the women throwing themselves at him in real life? He likes a challenge? I'm just trying to make sense of this.

Tyler got no couch on the time alone to talk about his heartache. I feel like he's not even being looked at. Also, if they wanted him for bachelor, they wouldn't have let Hannah shoot her shot. He would've came out after they showed her sending him home, and he would've got his bachelor audition like Peter and Mike did.

That's still just 6 out of 15. Most don't work. Ashley and Desiree also ended up with men whom most didn't think were their first choice. ---- I'm no tyler and hannah fan but unless Tyler is looking for a virgin, any woman he meets will have slept with other men. If he hooks up with a model or whatever woman he will not know what or who she's done that week or in her past.