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I would again, with all sincerity, like to apologize to all previous bachelors, even you Colton. This is easily the worst season I have ever watched. I wasn't too surprised with Madison in the preview because, to me, she has looked uncomfortable with Peter being all handsy. At first, I thought she wasn't into him, but now I think she's just not comfortable with constant groping. I think she likes Peter but not sure why. I think the bubble would burst fast for her when the season is over. I can't see her being very impressed with him in real life. I do wonder if the audience will handle her differently than Luke. I always understood Luke's pov. He also never got angry; he was calm when expressing his beliefs. Hannah snapped at him because she felt guilty about having slept with multiple men. But people still ripped into him. Madison has even less reason to believe Peter can keep it in his pants and here she is. Hannah Ann is beautiful and seems younger than her age. That might be Peter's best match. I enjoy Victoria F because she at least will tell Peter off. I haven't been able to warm to Kelsey. The date with Natasha was a waste of time. I think Peter wanted Natasha to send herself home. Kelley was too normal for this show. Any chance she could be bachelorette? I'm leaning no because the show only likes train wrecks now.

I think Victoria F is very attractive. She also looks natural unlike most of the other women there.

I believe his dad is also a pilot and that’s why he became one. The problem is peter having a job as a pilot still doesn’t make him desirable enough for me to believe these beauty queens want him given everything he has working against him. And I would be surprised if he’s still working for delta a year from now. It’s odd. I think they harp on his career to make him seem more grown up, and it should, but it doesn’t. I still see a sixteen year old. And almost all of the women just seem like too much for him. Like he just wants a girl that just giggles and doesn’t have much of anything to say except “life’s been great!” “I love my parents!”

LOL I meant shirtless. I was trying to give Colton a compliment and apologize for all the mean things I said about him! Colton, you are so much better than wimpy peter

Well I like both Victorias, Alayah, and Sydney more than Peter. All those women can and will do better when this show is over. Watching Victoria F pretend to be attracted to Peter while he danced like THAT gave me a big chuckle. Peter was an awful choice. I always thought he would be. All the women should walk off. I'm not convinced ANY are attracted to him. They are fighting for more tv time for their insta careers AS THEY SHOULD BE because Peter offers nothing. I haven't watched forever. But he is the worst choice. He does not have a single attractive quality. No charm, no swag, no sexy, still built like a boy, can't make a decision, can't make conversation, and so sheltered he has a problem relating to anyone who didn't grow up like him; he's just simple. He doesn't feel like a grown man. I would like to apologize to all the previous bachelors I clowned, included Colton, because at least Colton looked good walking around shirtless, wanted a committed relationship, and knew what he wanted. Peter has made all of the previous bachelors look better.

Well that’s every person that comes on this show. But he doesn’t have women who look like these contestants falling all over him. They needed to cast some average looking, out of shape women like him. Colton despite being a crier looked like a man, had his shirt off all the time, had NFL checks, and came from money. Arie was super rich. The bachelor is supposed to be desirable. More desirable than peter who is all of 12, acts and looks like it.

I disagree with you. Peter is very average. I noticed they didn’t even bother having him take his shirt off at the pool party. I do not think in real life he was able to date women as good looking as these contestants. The Hannah Anns, Sydneys, and Alayahs of the world don’t go for him in real life. all these women signed up for Tyler or mike

I know we joked about most of the women not wanting Colton and arie their seasons but I feel we’ve really hit a low this season. The lawyer woman peter knew before and Madison are the only ones I buy having even a little interest in Peter. The fight between Sydney and alayah holds no weight because neither wants him. At least in the Hannah b vs caelynn fued, Hannah b was actually into Colton.

Yes, that’s the point I was making! These men don’t care that the woman actually have a parent who is not black. They only care about the look, what’s in front of them. A man could say I like black women like Halle Berry, Zendaya and Vanessa Williams, and I would take that to mean he likes mixed women. I wouldn’t bat an eye at the Vanessa mention because, though she does not have a non-black parent, the preference he is describing is clear and I know it doesn’t include women who look like Serena Williams. Maybe that’s the solution! Ask these people to jot down their celeb crushes then maybe you can see real preferences?

She still has mostly European blood and you can tell. I just don’t think a man being attracted to her says much about his attraction to black women. But I realize the expert can’t do anything about this issue except ask for skin tone preferences? But that would be a little weird. Idk I’m just tired of seeing this issue. I will just hope that’s not Brandon’s issue

Didn’t mean to offend with the meagan Goode comment. I was watching an interview where she discussed her background and she called herself mixed and listed a long list of things. I know Rihanna has a white grandparent and she looks it to me to me, they have a different look than brown skinned women you described like Ciara or the actresses Sanaa Lathan and Regina king. Just listing names off the top of my head... Im from Florida where mixed women call themselves mixed when asked and not just “black” and if you asked what they were mixed with they’d say Puerto Rican and black or whatever. Possibly because we have a lot of Latinos and interracial pairings? There are a lot of darker skinned mixed people in Florida and they would still say they are mixed. I was more than a little confused when I moved to another part of the country.

I wouldn’t have gone there if this wasn’t an issue on this show. Remember trey didn’t care for Vanessa. He preferred white woman. Remember jephte saying he was hoping for someone racially ambiguous and was mean to shawneice. Will and jasmine, will said his preference was more meagan Goode, another heavily mixed black woman. I know we follow the one drop rule in America, but being attracted to Halle berry isn’t the same as being attractive to Black women generally. I think some of these black men come on and aren’t honest. They might tolerate black women and only be attracted to those that look like Alicia keys. Tristan was and his wife turned out to be a scammer but I’m glad they didn’t pair him with a woman that looks like Meka.

Taylor is objectively attractive to me. She's the most attractive woman in this cast and he looked the most disappointed. He also kept weirdly asking her he feared a man would walk down the aisle. Also, I said he could be gay OR not have wanted a black woman. You might not think Taylor is a stunner but no one that comes on this show is. She looks better than most women that have been on this show. So what was he expecting? Perhaps he was hoping she wouldn't be black

I don’t think Brandon looked intimidated at all. He looked unimpressed as soon as he saw Taylor. He didn’t know she was brainy etc. then. I fear we are gearing up for a Luke and late scenario where is either gay or attracted to another type of woman, wanted an interracial pairing. I only have hope for Jessica and Austin. But I thought Katie and Derek were super cute.

My god mother swears peter is in the closet. She watched this ep and his Gma interview and you can’t convince her he likes women. i Do think there was something odd about his interactions with the women. Did anyone notice he wasn’t nervous at all? Who isn’t nervous about meeting 30 women? He was acting a lot and I agree there were no actual tears when he was talking to Hannah but his voice was breaking up. I can’t figure him out.

THANK YOU! I couldn't count on one hand the number of times I called Colton a baby before his season, but he's manlier than Peter! And at least Colton knew what he wanted. I have a feeling Peter is going to be an indecisive mess going off that Hannah conversation. He is going to want them all and you can't blame him because they are all out of his league. I agree with this too. He was the only one that signed up for her. They had mutual attraction, chemistry, passion. and, in real life, she wouldn't have been dating other guys, so sex with other men wouldn't have been an issue.

Don't hate me...but Luke P is the only one she might have had a meaningful relationship in real life. Wouldn't it be something if she ended up back at square one with her top pick? Don't think it would happen but I never though Jared would date Ashley I

I don't like Peter and I don't like Hannah. I don't believe Hannah was crying over him. She was straight out of her mess of a season. Peter isn't her type and she would never give him a second date if they first went out on real life. Peter will not find love. He is not looking for love. It was very difficult to get through those 3 hours. Peter can't carry a season so the women will really have to step up. There is nothing attractive about Peter. Nothing. All of these women, as annoying as they are, can find better. They have got to stop casting average joes and beauty queens. Peter is average and they needed to casted more average looking women who might actually consider him a catch. I don't believe any of these women do. Hannah Ann will be queen of paradise.

I think that's Victoria F. Unfortunately she's one of the few I think he has chemistry with. I think Hannah Ann is beautiful but they've kissed multiple times and I feel nothing. Yep. These women are beautiful with real careers (most are). Hard to believe they are about to fall for Peter.

I thought Hannah was a lot with the kissing. But I see Peter is about to top her and full on makeup with everyone in front of the other contestants. Hard to believe he's serious about anything but getting laid. Hannah's appearance was a waste of time. Peter isn't passing up being with one of these hot women throwing themselves at him for her. I don't care how many feels he has.

I thought all the men except fitness guy and Brandon were unattractive. I thought the pairings were pretty even, with all the women except the figure skater looking slightly better than their match and think they could do better, looks wise.

I like the cyber security guy and goldilocks (Austin?) but I want him to cut his hair. I feel bad cyber guy is stuck with Katie because he seems genuine. Austin needs to go back to his short hair cut but I think he and Jessica will hit it off. (I still don't know names yet forgive me if I'm off) I think Taylor is beautiful but hate her wig. I don't think she'll work with Brandon though. He pings my gaydar, slightly. Either that or he's going to be one of those men with too high standards like Jephte, Will, and Keith. Black earrings, beer sales man, bleh. I can't get a good read on the other black guy. I think he's too old for his match. No to fitness guy. I like all of the women but Katie, whom I'm so sick of already I don't want to say more about.

Love is crazy like I thought!

Not sure how I feel about this season. I'll love it if Love killed Delia and we find out she off'd Candace too. Weird we haven't seen Candace again. And I want Love to turn out to be crazier than Joe, because she's off to me. Sad to see Delia go, because of Ellie, though.

I agreed in the beginning of the show Santamonica was too much but they toned her down. This was an episode that needed a heavy dose of Santa Monica because of the plot. I thought she was great this ep and carried it. Santa Monica, the aunt and grandpa do all the heavy lifting for this show. The parents, rainbow, and johan are all dull. Bow, Dre, the grandparents, junior, and Diane on black ish are all heavy weights. Blackish also has Dre’s coworkers. If they tone done Santa Monica here even more there wouldn’t be much left. This is supposed to be a comedy.