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I think she would be different with a man she was sexually attracted to

I just read her book. It wasn’t that she was unsure about him. She just thought it was inappropriate given she was his mentor. He convinced her no one at her job would care. She was attracted to him before that because of his confidence and assertive and brilliance etc Nothing about Karen says she is interested in thugs or her ex was one. He cheated. He can be a cheater and not be a thug. It’s a mighty leap to put him in that category. So I’m not sure what people are seeing or hearing from Karen. Assertive, confident, leader doesn’t equal thug.

Miles continues to be more cringe by the week. His jokes were completely inappropriate given she’s only known him a couple weeks and is still trying to figure out of she likes him. He’s not listening To Karen and he lacks maturity. It’s been offensive to hear that when a black woman says she wants a masculine man that must mean she wants a “thug” as if there aren’t masculine black men who are good men like a Barack Obama type. Assertive, confident, leader etc I’m not sure why “alpha” and “masculine” have become negative terms because of some bad apples. As if good men can’t be alphas. Good for those that do but not everyone likes beta males like miles and that’s ok.

I continue to not understand why Karen and Miles were paired. I thought Karen was nice to Miles. But ultimately they’re just not compatible, have no romantic chemistry, and she’s flat out not sexually attracted to him. And to be fair I think the only thing Miles likes about her is her looks. It’s the only reason he says he’s into her. And he likes her looks so much he’s willing to overlook their lack of compatibility. So he’s shallow too. I’ve noticed that Karen AND Miles comment on the age difference. He’s called her a cougar several times. Their feels to be a large age gap between them. He needs a younger woman and she needs an older man. She might settle for him but she’s never going to be THAT into him. Their marriage will always be lukewarm. Woody took a nose dive this week. I knew it would come eventually but didn’t expect this. Though he’s always come off as shallow so can’t be too surprised. Amani can do better and they wont make it. OLIVIA. Ok, I actually relate to her. I do well, financially, and don’t react well to men telling me how to spend my money or that “I’m throwing it away.” They are both rude and stubborn and emotional so I can see why they were paired. But finances will be an issue and not just for Olivia. Lifestyle differences matter, MUCH. Henry finally stated his truth. But it’s funny how men on the show have no ISSUE stating their spouse isn’t their type to their spouses faces but the women always beat around the bush i.e. Karen and still get slammed for not wanting their spouses. As a woman there’s no way to be on this show and not be into your spouse if he’s a “nice guy.”

I’m with ya. I’ve seen too much of this show and reality tv in general. I’m not calling Miles a villain but I’m not calling him Prince Charming either. Because I’ve seen too many people turn out not to be what they portrayed or their families/friends said they were. I’m a bachelor fan and I’ve watched several falls from grace. I assume all these people have issues unless proven otherwise because it’s reality tv.

My point is simply we don’t know the man or anything about his so called monogamous relationships. He could be LYING about them being monogamous just as Karen’s ex was lying to her. It’s been what...3 episodes...we don’t know what’s coming from miles. maybe I just watch too much reality tv but I’ve seen a number of people fall from Prince Charming to the crap on the bottom on your shoe as the season goes on. I don’t get the passion about miles after 3 episodes. :shrugs: I was just expressing my doubts as others have. Like I do about every one.

So funny when you mention being a child. I believe he said he's been single for years. So 10 before he was 25. I was just graduating from law school then and I was a baby. I had one serious relationship (college sweet heart). But we were such children it was such puppy love. Besides him I went out on bad awkward dates with boys in law school, whom were not quite men, whom I cut off abruptly because I didn't have time for their bs. A colleague of mine bumped into a douche I went on two dates with when I was in law school. He told my colleague "he knew me well" "and we dated." We went on two horrible dates (and I only accepted the second because of his potential, professionally). This same guy pretended to "hardly know" a mutual friend he had sex with off and on for MONTHS when she was mentioned. Men are "funny" when it comes to whom they count. So who knows who Miles is counting and not counting.

I don't see how you squeeze in 10 before 24 but I admit to being more conservative and a workaholic. I wasn't even allowed to date when I lived at home (in high school) so that could be clouding my judgment (I didn't even think of high school relationships). There's also not dating and giving yourself space to find yourself, focusing on school, establishing yourself at work, having family difficulties, sickness etc, preventing people from hoping around, doesn't mean we're having one night stands etc. I had only had one relationship by 24 because I was focused on my education in my late teens and early twenties (college and law school) and men were not a priority. The choice ended up being right for me. Some of us don't quickly move from one person to the next like Miles and have other priorities. Miles might have also had multiple relationships at once. Many assumptions about "nice guy Miles." He could have been a crap guy in all ten of those relationships. I don't get the fan club for him already. I agree 1000%. We don't know either of these men. And frankly they both raise red flags for me. I also love Amani. This I agree with.

Confidence doesn’t equal “bad boy” I think we would all agree our former president Obama had confidence but he was far from a “bad boy” and was a full on nerd. Miles is just young and immature. I don’t see a lack of confidence, either. He just doesn’t know how to romance a woman like his friend does. I’m not seeing the “good guy” “good catch stuff.” We know he hops in and out of relationship. We have no clue how he treated those women. Not to mention the old phrase “birds of a feather flock together.” If his friend Woody is a “player,” very possible he is too.

I feel for her. Because she seems like a nice woman. She’s no Matt or Luke or even Zach. If she told him she wasn’t into him, he wasn’t her type, like men have in this situation, she’d be torn to shreds. But she doesn’t want him, at all. He checks probably none of her boxes. She’s not being mean about it but you cant expect her to jump for joy about it. And you’re right, she likes Woody and Amani!! It’s a bad situation to be in. I blame the experts for thinking these two were in any way compatible. Like I couldn’t even see them striking up a convo at the bar. They don’t seem to even have good conversation. Just two people being cordial to each other.

I haven’t seen anything to suggest Karen is looking for someone perfect. She might be fine being a step mom. I could actually see her with an older man with kids. She’s just not a good match for man in his mid twenties. I just don’t think a honeymoon, romantic get away with a woman, whom you’re trying to woo because well she doesn’t know you, is the right time or place. It could at least wait until they got back home. His friend Woody, who is a little older, seems to know the purpose of the honeymoon. I’m sure his issues will spill later but he knows they’re not for the honeymoon. He focused on getting his wife to fall for him. I know Miles got his degree while playing football and trying to get drafted. I remember the kids thing but I don’t remember them stating what his role was i.e. teacher. Like Mike (married to Meka) “worked with kids” and ended up being jobless. From what I recall, Karen had some management gig. I’m asking because I also can’t see Karen being ok being the breadwinner. They just seem like a bad match all around.

In the minority I’m sure, but I’m not feeling Miles. Karen’s statements re masculinity were ignorant. But Miles is too young for her. He’s not romantic; does a lot of annoying teasing instead. I really saw it when he was asking the others where they thought she could beat him in a race. That was something me and my old college boyfriend used to argue about because were both athletes. I would think it was a little weird now that I’m in Karen’s age range. And dropping a bomb like that about being on medication for clinical depression during honeymoon also shows his age because he hasn’t learn “right place and right time.” And I don’t think they’ve mentioned a career for him yet which concerns me. Karen also just isn’t physically attracted to him. Karen needed an older man. And I’m not sure a young man who struggles with mental health is appropriate for an experience like this. I still like Amani and Woody, with caution, but she probably shouldn’t have slept with him so soon. I’m now starting to think Amelia doesn’t like Bennett as much as he likes her. She was a little lukewarm this ep. I can’t figure out Brett. I thought I had him figured out until the end when he seemed...sincere...with his apology. Maybe he is just screwed up from his past relationship. I like Olivia. That wage difference must have been steep because I felt she really started to put her foot down when she found out how much he made. Lol No comment on the other couple.

He played in college. His face is fat and body looks chubby/husky but not muscular. Reminds me of what happens to former football players (my guess is he was a linemen) who don’t keep up their workout routine but don’t change eating habits. Eventually they just turn flabby.

People or just an expectation of women? On here and social media there were many comments about the looks of the Kate, Mindy, and Amber and them not being “hot enough,” “not their type” and questions why they were paired. Not a lot of comments such as those women are “nice” so those men should wake up and be grateful for what they had, like I’m hearing with Karen and Miles, as if men just need to be nice and women need to meet a much higher list of demands to be considered a catch worth holding on to.

I wouldn’t be able to keep it from my friend, I don’t think. I wouldn’t be able to resist checking him out on social media. And I couldn’t keep her in the dark. That’s just too much to hold on to. If i found out like a couple hrs before the wedding, no, I wouldn’t tell. But I couldn’t hold on to the info overnight. And none of my friends would be able to keep it from me lol

I honestly think Karen just isn’t attracted to him. I felt the same way at the wedding. She was looking around like Brett. Also, isn’t he younger, 26 to her 30? I picture Karen with an older man. I find it interesting how the audience typically hopes women give less attractive “nice” guys a chance (Miles isnt unattractive but he’s chubby and less attractive than her), but the audience writes off the reverse pairing as a pointless pairing that will never go anywhere and calls the experts idiots for pairing better looking men (Luke, Zach, Matt) with “nice” girls who were not on their level looks wise.

With only 13 episodes, I’m not sure how much time there is for benson on stabler’s show? Maybe most of the reconnecting will happen on SVU and Benson showing up on OC once? Unless the big bad is a sex trafficker? but still...they really can’t let Benson swallow up too much time on a show with only 13 eps when the audience needs to find out where stabler’s been, what’s goin on with the wife and multiple kids, how he got his job back, and introduce the new unit and members and you know actually solve crime... i’m also envisioning something dark and gritty (tone wise) and Benson/Mariska is just not that. I imagine her throwing off the whole tone of the show if/when she arrives so I don’t want to see it happen too often. Yea, I’ve been envisioning something like that.

Well, yea, I always assumed it would focus on stabler. I’m sure he will have a unit but he will be the clear lead. I actually don’t think the show will be anything like SVU though. I think it’ll be an entirely different beast. It’s going to be 13 episodes Vs 22/23 I believe so it wont follow the typical police procedural format. For instance, with just 13 episodes, I could see the entire season being about one “big bad villain.” I don’t see them going with a different case a week.

I can’t be the only one who thinks this will be a crap show. Matt is Peter with a black dad. That guy isn’t ready to settle down.

Carisi/Rollins made me indifferent to Carisi. Carisi going gaga for Rollins who screwed another cop in the squad and created two babies from different guys while he was there made him look rather well...pathetic. Maybe they thought they were doing some feminist story telling by having Carisi not care about that and so willing to help Rollins with her babies and whatever ever else she needed while into her. But it’s so unbelievable he would be into her it turned me away from the character. He became just a prop to the second woman lead.

And Rollins to me is so meh. I don’t connect with her in anyway or care what happens to her. I can’t imagine she has a large following. If a large percentage of fandom wouldn’t care if your number 2 was replaced, you got a problem with your cast Carisi doesn’t even feel like a real character with how little development he’s been given because we needed to see Noah in trouble again or Rollins and her second baby daddy. fin got more quality screen time when stabler was there.

A structure like chicago p.d. is what I’ve been imagining since he’s leading a force. The happenings today will no doubt force them to cast diverse actors as well which IMO would be nice to see. I can’t imagine they’ll put him behind a desk, not yet. Since it’s organized crime, maybe a lot of undercover work and less chasing people down. Did you watch Graceland on USA? I imagine something like that. A crew of 6 doing a lot of undercover work with an older head guy (Briggs) leading the way I hope we get an interesting cast of characters. There’s been no news on other castings, right? One major way SVU has let me down recently is that Liv’s supporting cast has been weak for a long time; none our compelling characters IMO.

I’m of two minds. I really don’t want a watered down stabler. He wasn’t a racist or prejudiced toward a group of people based on an immutable characteristic. He hated pedophiles. He mostly slapped around white guys. He also brought a passionate anger that could be felt by the audience, that was relatable to the audience, because how could you be human and not angry at the perps for their heinous crimes. He couldn’t compartmentalize, not even for the sake of his marriage, that too was relatable. I also haven’t liked Olivia in so long I really don’t want him turned into some version of her. And I’m hoping the svu crossovers will be kept at a minimum (one to introduce the show is my preference) I also hope he gets a kick a*s squad. I get he’ll have to change his tactics, but he’s older now like Liv, so he probably physically can’t do what he used to, anyhow. I really don’t want to see a bunch of boring anger management classes and therapy sessions. Hopefully he’s completed all that before he returns. Reading leight’s interview, I’m not sure it’s clear something happened to his family recently or in the past. I’m leaning towards something happening to one of kids around the time he left the squad that sent him off the grid or undercover or something, and he’s just getting back to town. I don’t think it’s Kathy because she was set to return in the suv finale and this show was already in the works then. Olivia’s adoption of Noah made no sense. Her rise to sergeant did. But her rise to lieutenant and captain happened over night. So Stabler having his own squad after ten years doesn’t bother me. I lean towards him having been doing some work undercover and now running a task force most don’t want anything to do with because of the danger.

I've always wondered where the rumors came from. They were all over the message board back in the day. I also remembered Lauren's unconvincing denial. My guess is they were just very different people who had nothing to talk about when not acting. I never saw the romantic chemistry so the rumors didn't help. They had big brother-little sister energy which explains Scott's statement.

Crosses fingers for only one scene showing his visitation with Eli and no more! i just had a thought...couldnt he be a grandpa now? Oh goodness...I don’t need another baby Noah. No more babies!