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I’m with you. So we will both be wrong. Lol but it’s kinda of awful if they did this to Hannah and Jed, no? Their lead is already being called stupid over Luke and then they added she chose a dude with a gf on top of that. Plus Jed is getting immense hate and he may not even be engaged! What if she let Tyler go before FRC planning on choosing Jed and Jed actually tells her about Haley before the FRC? I honestly can’t see Tyler or Jed getting down on one knee the more I think about it, especially not Jed. I don’t even think Jed can fake a sincere proposal.

What if RS was right the first time and Tyler is F1? And they sent him this Jed spoiler so they could drum up more interest for the show... cue people magazine article drop the same day RS changed the spoiler. The article from people, which has ties to the show, the same day RS changed the spoiler has always been suspicious to me. If feels like TPTB were in on this Haley storyline. they also did nothing to protect Jed like they did other F1s like Garrett. They threw Jed to the woods very quickly. And there has really been no evidence of Hannah with Jed post filming. I know RS says they filmed a break up but someone could be feeling him bs. I don't think he's hinted at having any photo evidence. We he switched the spoiler all he said was the evidence he had re Jed being F1 was stronger than whatever he had for Tyler.

Gigi Hadid just followed Tyler on ig. I couldn't believe my eyes. That has to be the biggest follow I've seen for a bach contestant. Go Tyler!

I don't even think Hannah is all that mad at Luke. She is doing what she knows the viewers want her to do. She is a pageant girl, people pleaser. I still don't think I know what Hannah actually thinks, feels about anything.

I still think Hannah was 100% a producer puppet and is now uncomfortable with how she's been edited and is perceived by viewers. Why did she fall on the ground? What a mess! Oh yea, that F3 rose ceremony was even uglier than I thought it would be.

Same, though it also makes me so jealous because I don't have one! LOL

Athletes do, particularly football players. Maybe all the running?

Peter tried acting until 2014, assuming this is him: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1433813/ . He does not come off as very intelligent to me. Peter just became a pilot last year and immediately dropped it to be on the bachelorette. Doesn't sound like his dream job. Tyler tried professional football. It didn't work out. He joined the family business while modeling in Miami. Luke perhaps only signed up for Hannah. No one else.

Well, no, she’s not a world class beauty like Fox or Jolie. But that’s 99% of women. LOL But Tyler isn’t Brad Pitt either. I think Hannah is more attractive that the average woman I see in real life, same with Tyler and the average guy. I think her genuine smile and dimples add a lot, not the fake smile. With the right styling, she can wow. But unfortunately more misses than hits this season. Like wtf was she wearing during Luke’s fantasy date? Matter of fact, all her looks sucked except maybe during Jed’s? Simple is more for her. Simple, slick hair, and solid black, silver or white dresses, little jewelry, not too much makeup. I actually think she did better styling herself during Colton’s season. She looks a good decade older than she did last year. Did anyone see the MONSTROSITY she is wearing in the promos for the rose ceremony next week? What is that? It must be a dress but the top looks like a bathing suit AND did I see heart earrings? Fire everyone.

Yes. I thought either it didn’t happen because they just didn’t behave like two adults that had just had sex or the situation was what you described. She just doesn’t seem like she really likes him. They just left her stuck in that small airbnb with him. I couldn’t even imagine the two talking for a long period of time “like I like really Like you and I can’t like wait to like you like what type of like tv do you like watch like giggle giggle giggle :cue sex: Maybe she had sex with him again to shut him up? I can actually see her talking through the night with Tyler because he seems like he can lead conversations. JMO — The talk about Hannah being insecure is so interesting to me. I definitely agree. It does strike me as off because she won a beauty contest. So when she says things like it’s hard to believe Tyler would want to date her, I’m like don’t most of the Tylers of the world want beauty queens? He’s not a Ivy League guy looking for an Ivy League woman. He’s a hot guy. I really feel that Hannah is only not on his level because she so obviously doesn’t believe she is. For instance, I think Hannah is more attractive than Caelynn but Caelynn would not see Tyler as out of her league, neither would Tayshia or Demi or Hannah G. Nor would they entertain Peter or Luke just because they appear to really really like them. They have more confidence. Peter first. Luke was last. Jed and Tyler’s order unclear but I think I read somewhere they were shown in the order filmed. Peter also benefitted from being the first fantasy date. IMO

I feel like Idk who Mike is. People are keep saying he would be mature, wise, make a different season. Is this only based on his age? He didn't come off as mature on the show to me.

^ I was curious who the bachelorette was? --- Update re Tyler for Bach. He flew from NY to LA for just a day. Possible next bach? I don't want to get excited but I am REALLY excited. He hit a million on instagram before the finale! He has to be their guy? YES YES YES?!!!!

My first thought was he was begging her to move not because he really loved her but because he was looking for someone to split the rent for an apartment. A lot of 20 year old guys are doing this. Peter still lives at home, which I was surprised by because he's a pilot. But maybe the young, new ones don't make a lot. He's doesn't need her anymore because he will be able to promote tea on instagram. Did anyone else read he signed up to this show 6 years ago when he was 21 and trying to be an actor? Who was the bachelorette then?

If they’re still considering him for bachelor they will bring it up, just so Peter can say it was nothing “I Was dating a girl whom I broke up with long before I went on the show.” The bachelor alum like Rachel, nick, Colton have already said it’s nothing. Kendall replied on twitter stating it’s weird Peter was in a relationship during that time because he matched with her friend on a dating app during that time, but then deleted the tweet. I think they’ve all received matching orders from TPTB re Peter, which indicates to me they still want him for bachelor. They all had no problem throwing Jed under the bus pretty quickly after the people mag article.

I really wonder how Hannah will spin her poor taste in men on ATFR. The ending is so bleak TPTB must try to spin it as she's an "independent woman who doesn't need a man." But that doesn't really jive with what we've seen of her this season. Maybe "she's learned a lot"? though I'm not sure she has; I think she has a few more trainwreck relationships in her future. Or will they not try to spin it at all and let their bachelorette and this season just be the trainwreck it is? The people mag shoot and media circuit she will do solo. She will have to talk about Jed's ex, Luke, windmill sex, and the love for Tyler, over and over and over again. When's the last time a bachelorette did the media circuit solo? Has it ever happened?

I believe there was a promo shown during the MTA with Hannah in a final rose gown and Hannah getting out of the car.

Peter or Luke were the fourth date. She feels nothing for Peter (other than he’s a nice guy) and didnt even try to build an emotional connection with him and I think she’s been ready to send Luke home. Jed has been in first place since she told him she feels guilty about her relationships with other men. JMO

I’m STILL not sold on Hannah and Peter doing anything and that she didn’t just tell Luke she fucked in a windmill, regardless of what the edit implied. Her little wink during her ITM during her Luke date also made me pause. She was not into that date with Peter or him, and they were awkward to watch as usual, regardless of if she caved and screwed him after he kept yanking at her clothes. IMO Fortunately for me it looks like his gf just killed his bachelor chances. He is boring tv and a horn dog. I could not watch a season of him. I do not like him, at all. Also Tyler has been spotted in LA. We will find out why soon enough.

She kept him but said she didn’t want to have sex.

I feel bad because its obvious she’s never had a man respect boundaries. She doesn’t know what a healthy relationship looks like. She is easily manipulated and IMO has low self esteem. Plus this was just a bad set of fantasy suites. First guy is a horn dog that she didn’t like, whether they slept together or not. Second guy, she couldn’t trust. Third guy was controlling as fell and she fought with before probably screwing. Last guy, was a massive fight at dinner including being slut shamed. A sad state of affairs.

Did you see Hannah’s expression after? Doubtful it was once.

Well Luke certainly isn’t in love with her. Nor is Jed. Nor is Peter. Luke has this ideal fantasy of her that doesn’t exist. Jed wanted to play his music. Peter wanted to get laid.

He’s the only one that’s shown any care for her IMO.

What’s funny about this whole thing is she obsessed over men she could’ve met in real life. She can find a Luke in every southern church and a Jed singing at every concert/festival/lounge in Nashville. She didn’t use this experience to get to know different types of men. She stuck to her type.

I think this Hannah and Luke convo was producer driven. Luke was poked to ask about sex, and Hannah was told to stand up for herself. I can see people pulling the strings.