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Well Tony is actually dead so bringing him back would be more of a storyline to wade through than Peter being released from jail.  Not that it hasn't been done before this is Days after all.  I also think that Peter brings a different dynamic and perspective than either EJ or Chad and having Peter around doesn't diminish either of those characters.  What we saw happen with Kristen and before that with Lexi is that both Chad and EJ in a family setting are very happy and quite comfortable playing the "little brother" role.  Now that role might of been easier for them to play because Kristen and Lexi were women, but Peter would be a very different dynamic to both of them that I don't think would be a writer's dilemma. 

 

I also think that Peter's history would of worked storywise a lot better than bringing back Tony.  The whole EJ/Abby affair would of had a lot more resonance with Peter around.  Also when Kristen first returned and she was working her "I'm a changed person" and Jennifer was willing to forgive her and be friends I think that there was a huge missed opportunity there in not bringing Peter back to push that same angle.  Kristen and Peter could of both been working the "we are back to our old selves again/ we have changed" train.  I would of also rather have seen Jennifer deal with Peter being back in town and possibly forgiving him and what that means to Jack's memory, JJ and Abby's reactions, than what we got with Jennifer and Dan.

 

I'm not surprised that Jason Brooks never came back as Peter even if he had an opportunity.  Even if he wasn't still with his wife the situation alone is enough to keep him from returning to Days even if they asked.  What doesn't make sense to me is that they haven't recast the role.  Jason was great but he is not a veteran that is so cemented with the role no one else could do it justice.  This is what makes me think that there may be something to the rumor that MR doesn't even want the "character" on screen anymore.  Or that maybe TPTB choose to not bring back Peter out of respect for MR.

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Could someone lay out the details of what happened?  I'm not familiar with all the actor names involved or this cheating story, so understanding why Peter's been AWOL so long is a bit tricky...thanks!

 

Also: Before we get into Stefano VS Marlena Round 157, can anyone explain where things have stood between them?  I seem to remember years ago seeing Stefano visit Marlena in the hospital, where John was receiving treatment and bidding her farewell/letting her go...could that have been when Deidre Hall and Drake first left the show?

 

And then I saw Stefano and Marlena have some kind of face off in the DiMansion a few years back.  All this to say, I have no clue if he ever got over his love for her or what.

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Could someone lay out the details of what happened?  I'm not familiar with all the actor names involved or this cheating story, so understanding why Peter's been AWOL so long is a bit tricky...thanks!

 

Also: Before we get into Stefano VS Marlena Round 157, can anyone explain where things have stood between them?  I seem to remember years ago seeing Stefano visit Marlena in the hospital, where John was receiving treatment and bidding her farewell/letting her go...could that have been when Deidre Hall and Drake first left the show?

 

And then I saw Stefano and Marlena have some kind of face off in the DiMansion a few years back.  All this to say, I have no clue if he ever got over his love for her or what.

Ok, this has never been officially confirmed but it is pretty known to be true considering the events that went down. Basically what happened is that Melissa Reeves (Jennifer) and Jason Brooks (Peter) had a real life affair while they were both married.  The affair was exposed and Melissa or Melissa's husband Scott Reeves (who for all intents and purposes has a reputation for being a complete asshole) demanded that Jason be fired or she would leave the show.  Melissa left the show and Days sued her because she was in the middle of her contract and they had another actress come in and play Jennifer Horton.  It was a big deal because Jennifer and Peter were a front burner story at the time.

 

Anyway Melissa and Days I believe settle the lawsuit outside of court.  The Jennifer and Peter storyline progresses and they get divorced, Peter goes to jail and Jack and Jennifer leave town all while other actors are playing Jennifer and Jack (Matt Ashford wasn't around for this storyline, Mark Valley played Jack back then)

 

Fast forward a little while and Melissa is asked back as Jennifer.  Apparently there is water under the bridge and she and Days put the lawsuit behind them and she comes back as Jennifer.  Apparently the rumors are that in order for Melissa to come back Jason Brooks can never be invited back to play Peter, and the character of Peter isn't allowed to be brought back either even if played by a different actor.  There are also rumors that Scott Reeves demanded that Jason be fired originally too before Melissa ended up leaving and inspiring the lawsuit.

 

Now most of us can actually understand why Melissa wouldn't want to work with Jason or vice versa after the affair was exposed and I can even understand why Scott may have not wanted her to work with him either considering the circumstances.  The problem at the time was that Peter and Jennifer were happily married during that storyline and a main storyline on the show and there was no way to logically keep their characters apart so it became an issue.

 

What a lot of us fans have an issue with is that the character was never re-cast.  Now you could say that there are a lot of old characters on Days that come and go, which is true it is just interesting that the character of Peter hasn't been mentioned in the last 16 years and that even when his history with Jennifer should be brought up and referenced it isn't.  It is like Peter was erased from the show.

 

Since Kristen has been back Peter's name was brought up twice once by Kristen in relation to Jennifer being with Jack over him and then once by EJ when he was mad with Stefano and wanted to throw examples of Stefano ruining his children's lives.  As I remarked in my earlier post bringing back a re-cast Peter would of made a lot of sense when Kristen came back.  That there were a couple of storylines that would of been enhanced by having him be a part of them.

 

Some of us think this lends a little credibility to the fact that the "character" Peter isn't brought back either because of Melissa's influence, or just TPTB doing it out of respect for Melissa and her controlling husband.  That we will never know I guess, it just seems awfully coincidental. 

 

 

As far as Marlena vs Stefano.  There was a point in the early 2000's where Stefano did get over his obsession with Marlena.  Ironically that obsession was transferred to Tony and he started to be interested in Marlena.  A lot of that had to do with Tony punishing John as well.  Then we had Stefano bring EJ to Salem to become obsessed and impregnate Sami as sort of a next generation thing.  I really hope they don't start in with Stefano wanting Marlena again.  I was actually relieved when he got over her.

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Peter not being a part of Kristen's return both times was glaring because they came into the show together years ago....I always fanwanked that it was Peter that figured out that Susan was pretending to be Kristen to keep baby EJ, while Kristen was being held captive in White slavery....It made no sense that Jennifer never bought up her dark history with Peter when Abifail was sleeping with EJ. I hate it when actors have too much power on a show, it stifles creativity...Melissa and Jennifer are 2 different people. Peter not being on canvas is a mistake...They can always recast. Chad being a menacing Dimera is laughable....

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Uncle Eric also molested Kimberly for years....Samantha Evans was actually a very tragic character..Marlena and Samantha had a very complicated relationship..I saw a few scenes of Deidre on youtube after Samantha had switched places with her in the sanitarium..She was fantastic..She blew me away.....Samantha had planned her escape by telling her psychiatrist for weeks, that she was Dr. Marlena Evans and when  the switched happen, she did not believe Marlena, thinking it was another one of her delusions..The writing was awesome back then...We would never see that kind of layered and character-driven stories on the show these days....I saw other scenes of Marlena dealing with her sister's death and she was so good, dealing with the guilt of being alive, and feelings of not doing enough to help her troubled sister..I am surprise that the show never touched upon that, when Marlena was dealing with Sami...They should have done a parallel of the two Samanthas in Marlena's life who caused her so much grief...

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When Melissa came back in 2000, I think it was one of her conditions in returning to the show that Peter not be mentioned in her presence. It was so glaring after the affair between EJ and Abifail was revealed that Jennifer never referenced her past with Peter. Sami did not even make a wisecrack about mother and daughter loving Dimera men.  Peter and Abigail were very close, she even called him dada..That pissed of alot of hardcore Jack and Jennifer fans..There is no way that Jack would have been a deadbeat to any of his children. It was so laughable....Ken Corday has always hated Jack for some inexplicable reason, so Jack had to be trashed to facilitate that pairing. I have to admit that Peter and Jennifer had alot of chemistry and I liked them, but I always wanted the Devereaux family to be intact...I liked Ejami in the beginning before the ugliness, but, I always wanted Lumi to be endgame..

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Woah...thanks for that recap on the Peter fiasco...how was Melissa's husband so powerful that the show executives would allow him to dictate so much?  Wasn't he just her husband..?

Your welcome.  On one hand it is nice to go down memory lane and then I get annoyed at how good the writing used to be back in the day.

 

I think it was more like Melissa had the perceived power and her husband was more the one pushing things.  That is until Days called her bluff and actually went through with suing her.  It's unclear if it still is Melissa dictating the absence of Peter or if TPTB are actually doing it out of respect for Melissa because outside of the lawsuit she is a veteran and they have never had a problem with her before, and don't ever have a problem with her actual acting.

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Your welcome.  On one hand it is nice to go down memory lane and then I get annoyed at how good the writing used to be back in the day.

 

I think it was more like Melissa had the perceived power and her husband was more the one pushing things.  That is until Days called her bluff and actually went through with suing her.  It's unclear if it still is Melissa dictating the absence of Peter or if TPTB are actually doing it out of respect for Melissa because outside of the lawsuit she is a veteran and they have never had a problem with her before, and don't ever have a problem with her actual acting.

I think it is a bit of both...Plus, Melissa is the only Jennifer Horton, that the audience will ever accept. The recast was atrocious and the show realizes that the role of Jennifer is tied to Melissa, Period. Some roles cannot be recast and it is foolish to even try...

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I think it depends on the time period.  I think now Melissa is so tied to the character, but she has come and gone over the years and I think that helps ease the hardships of a re-cast.  Also this originally happened back in the late 90's.  I think if Days had found a dynamic actress back then to play Jennifer then maybe they wouldn't of asked for Melissa back and probably would of continued on with Jennifer's story.  I love Missy Reeves as Jennifer and think she does a great job even when I don't like the writing, but I also think that she benefitted from the re-cast actress not being very good so that when some time had passed all parties were ready for her to come back.

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True! you are right..I have always thought that Robert Kelker Kelly was a great Bo recast..I will always love Peter..I thought his Bo had the best chemistry with Hope and Carly.While Robert's Bo was at his best with Billie...I loved Julie Pinson as Billie..I will not even comment on Porn star Billie..She was only good when Billie gave birth to a still born Georgia and sang Georgia on my mind while holding her lifeless body in her arms... It was chilling and heartbreaking...The show retconning her death was stupid and lazy writing...

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Good point.  They actually have done really well with the Billie re-casts.  Even having Lisa Rinna come back a few times.  I think a re-cast can have a fairer advantage when the character is changed.  For example, I think it was easier to accept Krista Allen as Billie because they made her a darker character during that time so it was easier to accept her as a scheming Billie.  Then with Julie Pinson's Billie who is actually similar to original Billie, just more "grown up/mature".  I think it also helped that Julie is a good actress and her and Lisa have similar features.  I will always prefer Lisa's Billie but have been pleasantly surprised by the re-casts.

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They spaced out the Billie recasts and the writing reflected that....Julie was so good and she had great chemistry with Austin peck' s Austin..They reminded me so much of original recipe of Austin and Billie....I always thought the casting of Kate's family was so good. Austin, Billie, Lucas, Kate, Philip and dark-haired Will all looked like family members...I have always noticed that Lucas has never been close to his siblings from his maternal side..He seemed to be close to Jennifer, but they abandoned that relationship since God a.k.a Daniel came into town....

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I find Lucas's closest sibling to have been Billie for the most part.  I do like seeing him and Jennifer close but I think that is a direct result of the character of Billie not being around anymore.  Lucas and Billie used to live together both before and after Julie Pinson's Billie.  I do agree with you though that Lucas has always been closer to his sister's than brothers.  Lucas and Austin are on good terms now but there was always their rivalry to contend with that always got in the way of them being really close.  His relationships with Phillip, Rex, and Mike was never that in depth at least not shown on screen.  Hell, he and Cassie almost slept together before they found out they were siblings and then she disappeared.

 

Lucas's strongest family connection has always been Kate, which makes sense growing up as an only child.

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I always liked that the Will factor added another dimension in the rivalry between Austin and Lucas..The writers have ignored that Austin had a strong bond with Will even after Lucas was revealed to be his true father..I always fanwanked that was part of the reason that Austin was civil to Sami after all that she put him through with her schemes. Chandler always imbued that subtext in his interactions with his uncle Austin...That has been forgotten with Guy's Will...I have never seen his Will interact with his other family members..Billie was really close to Will as well, especially when he was believed to be Austin's. Plus, he was named after her...I love Lucas' complex relationship with Kate. Lucas is the only child that she had from conception to adulthood...He is also the child that she hurts the most with her schemes and ruthlessness. It is almost like he was a consolation child for not having Billie and Austin, when she believed that they were dead....

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Excellent point about Will being another wedge in Austin and Lucas really being close.  Even if it is subconscious.  I do agree with you that Lucas is the one who tends to be affected the most by Kate's schemes probably because he is the only child that has been with her since the beginning.  He literally hasn't ever had a detachment from her outside of when he was in a coma, or mad with her for extended periods of time.  Like they say "You hurt the ones you love most".

 

With that said I have always appreciated Lucas and Kate's "Us against the world" relationship.  It really does exemplify how deep down Lucas really appreciates all that Kate has done to raise him through the years. 

 

Ironically they had a similar storyline with Rex, in the sense that he was a test tube baby and raised in a facility and always yearned for a family.  What I loved about him being Kate's son was that he was really ecstatic about being her son.  Rarely do we see an adult who is immensely overjoyed about finding their birth mother.  Rex really loved Kate and was really proud to be her son.  Rex really loved that his mom was this strong, smart, feisty woman.  I think a lot of that had to do with the fact of growing up as Cassie's twin and that to him Cassie was Kate's mini me. 

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The show does not do complexity anymore..Everybody is either a dark hat or a white hat..The white hats are sanctimonious, hypocritical assholes. Austin should have been involved with Wilson during this affair saga..It would have been good to see Austin remind Will about how  scheming has affected him all his life. It cost them their father/son bond..Lucas had no problem with Will scheming against Paul. He encouraged it..It would have been cool to see Austin oppose that and for the writers to really explore the Lucas/Austin dynamic with Will's turn to the dark side as a catalyst...These writers miss important beats when crafting their nonsensical stories...

 

I always wanted Will to tell Austin that he still thinks of him as his dad...Austin still having an influence on Will's life should have been still  a sore spot for Lucas...Lucas was always jealous and resentful of Austin. If Austin was in town when Will was coming out, I have no doubt that he would have been supportive and that could have been another way to annoy Lucas, since he was not happy about Will being gay...I would have had Austin of having always known about Will's sexuality just like Kate..Lucas would have been very angry that Kate and Austin knew about this and never clued him to that fact..Lucas always hated the closeness between Kate and Austin....Complex family dynamics and friendships  are missing from this show....

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Complex family dynamics. AGAIN they had both Will and whoever he was talking to refer to his "Aunt Hope." HOPE IS NOT HIS AUNT. She is not a sibling of either Sami or Lucas. So STOP it show.

 

She is his aunt.  She's married to Bo, who is Sami's uncle, so Hope is his great-aunt by marriage.  

Him calling her "Aunt Hope" is right, this time.

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I find it really funny when Will and Sonny do not acknowledge the family that they have in common via blood and marriage.....They share Kayla, Steve, Bo, Hope,Shawn-Douglas, Claire, Chelsea, Zack, Ciara, Joey, Stefanie, Philip, JJ, Abigail, Jennifer, Jack.  I remember when they first met at the pier, Abigail introduced them as her cousins and they acknowledged they had heard of each other over the years, but had never met...Will had said that he knew of Sonny as Jackson and not as Sonny..It would have been very easy for the show to say that they had met as children when Kate was married to Victor....The show also said that Sonny and his brothers used to come to Salem often as children, they were just never shown onscreen...

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Robert KK played Bo?  Hun.  That kinda makes sense.  Was this before he appeared on Another World as (ugh) Shane Roberts/Bobby Reno?  That was a disaster, but you could see how he would be appealing otherwise.  Very rugged, good actor - clearly a "Bo" type.

 

I think it is a bit of both...Plus, Melissa is the only Jennifer Horton, that the audience will ever accept. The recast was atrocious and the show realizes that the role of Jennifer is tied to Melissa, Period. Some roles cannot be recast and it is foolish to even try...

 

 

I wouldn't care one bit if Melissa left.  Sorry but that ENTIRE FAMILY has been ruined by the writing.  When was the last time Melissa did a scene so well that anyone enjoyed it?  I know scripts are the problem, but I can't even look at her anymore.  A fresh actress and better writing could help turn her in to the likeable person the show seems to want her to be.

 

Could anyone be so kind as to recap what happened post Secret Room for Kristin/John/Marlena/Susan?  I know Kristin showed up at the wedding with Roman and that put things on hold for a while...and then later it was revealed that Susan was triplets...but it's all a blur after Secret Room, until the very end, where Kristin ended up in the harem.  THANK YOU!

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I think that Robert Kelker Kelly was the best recast in the history of the show...He sizzled with Carly and Hope, but his best chemistry was with Lisa Rinna's Billlie.....They were awesome together...Once Bo saw Hope in Maison Blanche, it was over for Bo and Billie...I felt bad for Billie....She really loved Bo and Shawn-Douglas..My favorite pairing was Bo and Carly..I loved their Mayan Wedding and I always  felt that Carly was perfect for Bo and Shawn-Douglas after Hope was presumed dead..She was so different from Hope, but she was that they needed to heal and move forward in life....

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Robert KK played Bo?  Hun.  That kinda makes sense.  Was this before he appeared on Another World as (ugh) Shane Roberts/Bobby Reno?  That was a disaster, but you could see how he would be appealing otherwise.  Very rugged, good actor - clearly a "Bo" type.

 

 

I wouldn't care one bit if Melissa left.  Sorry but that ENTIRE FAMILY has been ruined by the writing.  When was the last time Melissa did a scene so well that anyone enjoyed it?  I know scripts are the problem, but I can't even look at her anymore.  A fresh actress and better writing could help turn her in to the likeable person the show seems to want her to be.

 

Could anyone be so kind as to recap what happened post Secret Room for Kristin/John/Marlena/Susan?  I know Kristin showed up at the wedding with Roman and that put things on hold for a while...and then later it was revealed that Susan was triplets...but it's all a blur after Secret Room, until the very end, where Kristin ended up in the harem.  THANK YOU!

I'm not sure how much I can fill in since it was a long time ago, but basically Roman was reported MIA/dead from a mission and Kristen wouldn't take that for an answer since she felt Roman was the only one who could help her break up Marlena and John.  Anyway she sent out on a mission to find him, he was badly wounded and at death's door.  Kristen got him medical attention and brought him back to Salem to ruin John and Marlena's wedding.  Because Roman was in such a fragile state John and Marlena postponed their wedding. 

 

In the interim Susan and baby EJ moved into the penthouse with Marlena.  Susan began dating Edmund and they became engaged.  Kristen had devised a plan to impersonate Susan at her wedding to Edmund and run off with baby EJ, while selling Susan into the harem.  Stefano was ok with Kristen taking EJ to Europe for the time being.  I can't remember how she did it but Susan basically turned the tables on Kristen and she was the one sold into the harem.  Marlena and John helped Susan and Edmund escape to London.  When Susan left with EJ, Stefano was under the impression that Kristen succeeded with her plan.

 

We the audience later found out that Stefano figured out it was Susan who had EJ and eventually caught up with them while EJ was still young.  We found this out during the "Alice Horton's death" storyline when it was revealed that EJ was sick as a toddler and Alice Horton was secretly helping Stefano and Susan get EJ the best doctors.

 

When Kristen came back she revealed that Stefano had saved her from the harem and that is when she supposedly went into intensive therapy and why she felt like she owed Stefano by coming back to Salem.

 

Robert KK played Bo in the early 90's.  Peter Reckell was back as Bo in 95, so I believe Robert left shortly before that.  Most of Lisa Rinna's Bille storyline with Bo was with Robert.  According to behind the scenes Robert was not very liked on set.  He also began dating Mariam Parrish who played Jaime on the show I believe when she was still 17, which caused Allison Sweeney's parents to take her off the set until Robert was gone.  Robert and Mairam ended up getting married and have been together ever since. 

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Who is Chad's mother, and was she really a prostitute?

Also, thank you guys so much for your posts. I have learned a lot of backstory on this board.

If you go to page 3 of this thread and look for my name JBC344, I wrote a whole post about Chad and his mom.  The short version is that Chad's mom was Madeline Woods, she and Kate were high class prostitutes for Stefano back in the day.  When Kate and Stefano were married Chad was spending a lot of time at the Dimera mansion because he was best friends with Will at the time.  This is what started Chad's paternity storyline.

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Susan who loved Elvis, an obsessed fan thought that she had slept with Elvis, but it was really Stefano dressed as Elvis...lol...It is gross that Stefano slept with his daughter's doppelganger....When Kristen miscarried her baby, she enlisted Stefano's help and he found Susan...Susan posed as Kristen when John accompanied her to her doctor's appointments...Somebody can add, what I missed...

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When and how did it come out that EJ was Susan and Stefano's  baby boy?

I think it came out that EJ was Susan's child at Kristen and John's "renewing their vows" ceremony after John saved Marlena and Kristen from the Secret Room. I put that ceremony in quotes, because, unbeknownst to John and most others (with the exception of Marlena, Susan, Kristen, Vivian and Ivan), John had married Susan instead of Kristen in the delivery room, as Susan was disguised as Kristen.

 

Right before John and Kristen were about to start the ceremony, Marlena came to (she and Kristen had passed out from toxic fumes in the secret room) and divulged Susan disguising herself as Kristen and Kristen losing her baby in Paris.

 

I don't know when it came out that Stefano was the father, however.

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Someone else will have to chime in because that whole period is just jumbled in my head.  I do remember that they telegraphed it from a mile away to us the audience, so there was a lot of waiting around for the people of Salem to realize he was Elvis Dimera while we the audience saw him scheme behind Sami's back, while pretending to be her good friend/cute neighbor EJ Wells.

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I was able to find EJ's first scenes, moving in across the hall from Sami and Austin (how did he ever end up with her again?) and you are right - it isn't exactly subtle that he's likely Susan's son.  But did EJ come to town knowing that, or did he discover it?

Yeah, Stefano sent EJ to impregnate Sami so he can harvest the child's stem cells for his own medical needs. Piecing the history from a few different storylines.  Shortly after Susan and Edmund escaped Salem with EJ, Stefano figured out that Susan wasn't Kristen and found them, so EJ grew up between Stefano and Susan, SORAS notwithstanding. 

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EJ was revealed well before he raped Sami.  EJ's SORASed age has never been commented on, not that anyone else's in Salem has ever been addressed either.  Not that they logically could even if they wanted too.  I mean Sami would never comment on EJ's age considering Will is actually older than EJ.  She also couldn't comment on knowing him as a baby or that she was around when he was born. 

 

The older generation of characters have and did comment on the fact that he was Susan's son but no mention of the "real" time that has passed.

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Here is a summary of Kim's history with Victor...

 

There is a very long history of bad blood between Victor and Kim and Shane. The story began when Victor arrived in Salem in 1985 and was instantly enamored of Kimberly, the daughter of his lost love, Caroline. Shane was assigned by his ISA superior Nickerson to get evidence of Victor's criminal empire -- prostitution, drug smuggling (Victor was in charge of the cartel that killed Theo Carver and others), etc. It turned out that Nickerson was a traitor and was playing a game with Victor and Petrov, Stefano's former second in command -- the purse (Victor's money), the power (Nickerson's immunity from prosecution), and the pawn (John Black). During the investigation, Kimberly went blind and, fearing pressure from Shane, moved into Victor's. Eventually, Kimberly regained her sight, but she pretended to stay blind to help Shane get evidence. Victor, meanwhile, decided that he wanted Kimberly. When he found out that Kimberly was faking her blindness, he took her to Miami and planned on taking her out of the country and away from Shane. Shane followed them to Miami, but when he was breaking into Victor's computer, got trapped in the study due to a time-lock on the door. Victor planned to kill Shane when the door opened, so Kimberly seduced Victor, allowing Shane to escape with information that helped him save Bo and Hope from a bomb Victor had planted. Shane eventually found the evidence of Victor's criminal activity and had Victor arrested, but Nickerson destroyed the evidence as part of committing suicide once Shane discovered his role in the game.

 

During this period and for a few years thereafter, Victor repeatedly tried to kill Shane. As one point, with the help of Emma, Shane's ex-wife, Victor faked evidence that Shane had committed treason, resulting in Shane's arrest and expulsion from the ISA. (Bo was responsible, and confessed to the treason.) Victor later took out a contract on Shane's life. Also, when Victor thought he was Andrew's father (because Emma switched the results of the paternity test), to try to force Kimberly to give up custody, Victor publicly revealed Kimberly's past as a prostitute. (Until that time, only Shane, Marlena, and Bo knew the truth.)

 

 Kim got pregnant with Andrew after seducing Victor, but did not know who the father was. Until the fake paternity tests were discovered, Victor twice threatened to seek custody. First, he dropped the claim after Bo agreed to "become" Victor's son (this was right after Bo found out Victor was his father). Second, after Andrew was found following his kidnapping, Victor got a court to award him custody. That was when he revealed Kim's past as a prostitute, after she refused his blackmail attempt.

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Just wanted to say a big THANK YOU for all the answers I've been getting to my questions lately :) I'm really sorry if my replies/posts have seemed curt or very too-the-point. My phone has been dysfunctional and I've often had to re-type messages here several times to get them to post. After ten minutes of trying, you drop the pleasantries and just ask your questions bluntly, you know?

 

But again - thank you for taking the time to reply. So...did no one see when Sami and Marlena learned EJ Wells was Elvis Junior? I can't find any clips of that online, and I'd love to know how it went down.

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I also wanted to add that Victor also hired Steve to keep an eye on Kayla when she first came back to Salem, to report on any discussions between her and Bo. (This is why Steve was around her enough to fall in love, though he had his own agenda to hurt Bo, too, at the beginning). Later, he tried to kill both Steve and Kayla, and if memory serves, he framed Kayla for murder in the death of Marina Toscano, Steve's heretofore unknown first wife (who was killed by Victor's daughter Isabella, Marina's half sister, instead). He also put a hit out on Melissa Horton, Maggie's daughter and for a time she was on the run from Victor's goons. Victor has always been on the same level as Stefano, when it comes to terrorizing people in Salem... The Brady family hated Victor just as much as Stefano....The history between Victor/Kim parallels that of Stefano/Marlena....

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