The Conners Past and Present

[peacheslatour]

1 minute ago, qtpye said:

I said the exact same thing (though a little while ago).

He is the perfect example of someone who thinks they are on the road to success only to realize the world is not so simple.

I can imagine him being the type to lose all his money day trading a little before The Great Recession and now have to take jobs that he finds "humiliating".

I just hope they don't make him a love interest for Becky. 

I'd love to see them walk by him as he's picking up garbage with one of those Community Service vests on.

[StaceyNotStacie]

23 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

Dean, Dean the son in law machine? I'd love to see him show as some kind of fabulously wealthy tech mogul who sweeps Becky off her feet into a life of luxury.

How about a retired football player. He can return to be the HS football coach and one of young Mark’s teachers. 

[Bastet]

1 hour ago, peacheslatour said:

Remember the "little weasel", the kid who managed the chicken place where Roseanne worked?

He was "the little maggot".

Sadly, he probably failed upwards.

[Welshman in Ca]

18 hours ago, Bastet said:

He was "the little maggot".

Sadly, he probably failed upwards.

Probably a Bitcoin millionaire.

[peacheslatour]

1 hour ago, Welshman in Ca said:

Probably a Bitcoin millionaire.

That's an oxymoron these days.

[Welshman in Ca]

5 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

That's an oxymoron these days.

That's what the news outlets would have you believe but.............

A lot of nerds & computer geeks were playing with & mining bitcoin for fun and to test it as a theory when it was a very new thing rather than now & the price of it was less than a penny per bitcoin, they just traded it amongst themselves for fun & geeky stuff. All we hear about now is that it has dropped from $60,000 per coin to $20,000 per coin ($24,000 today) but if you bought or mined it for less than a penny then even at $20k you're still laughing & many of them sold their thousands & million of coins for a much lower price years ago & still became real money millionaires.

It's the rich people who got burnt rather than the geeks sitting in their bedrooms & parents basements and of course the news outlets would rather tell you all about the rich people like Elon & how much they lost than some spotty kid who made millions by accident and keeps quiet about it.

[Snow Apple]

On 8/11/2022 at 1:25 PM, peacheslatour said:

If this has been discussed already, I apologize. Remember the "little weasel", the kid who managed the chicken place where Roseanne worked? I would love to see him return. What kind of low prestige, menial job should we give him?

Late to the party, but I would love to see him lose his job and has to work at a fast food joint with Harris as his boss. Of course she finds out about how he treated her grandmother......

Full circle moment.

[Bastet]

6 hours ago, qtpye said:

Did they have a throwaway line about Jerry not attending Roseanne's funeral because he could not get off a fishing boat in Alaska?

Right line, but wrong circumstance -- that's why he wasn't at the family dinner (and why he hardly ever calls) in the first episode of the reboot season of Roseanne.  He's never been mentioned in The Conners and, as noted, Dan once made reference to having three kids.  So he may or may not exist in this spin-off universe.

[qtpye]

24 minutes ago, Bastet said:

Right line, but wrong circumstance -- that's why he wasn't at the family dinner (and why he hardly ever calls) in the first episode of the reboot season of Roseanne.  He's never been mentioned in The Conners and, as noted, Dan once made reference to having three kids.  So he may or may not exist in this spin-off universe.

I wish the writers of this show had half the respect for its legacy that we find in the fans.

Perhaps we will find out that Jerry left a note talking about the Allens who are out of spice.

[Bastet]

8 hours ago, StaceyNotStacie said:

My assumption is that Crystal and Ed eventually divorced (which is why she was working at the casino) and the family sided with Crystal after the divorce, which meant that Dan and Ed grew apart. 

Yes, that would make sense (in fact, it's exactly what would likely have happened), and is another reason the Little Ed episode does not.

Dan always had a contentious relationship with his dad, so them having become well and truly estranged during the years the show wasn't on the air works (we'd seen some steps towards a new understanding near the end of the original series, but they're probably pretending that whole thing with Dan's mom's mental illness revelation didn't happen, and even if that remained canon, that doesn't preclude them being estranged so many years later).  But him having had no relationship with Little Ed, because Ed Sr. diverted letters, is bizarre, because that only works if Ed, not Crystal or Crystal and Ed, had raised Little Ed, which would make zero sense. 

And Dan learning of Ed's death via obituary, rather than from Crystal, made no sense, either, because Little Ed would have told his mom, who would have told Dan (unless Dan was estranged from Crystal, but he wasn't, because we'd seen her at the house).  Even if we hand-wave that away (e.g. by assuming Little Ed and Crystal were estranged, so she didn't even know Ed was dead in order to inform Dan), Crystal never once being mentioned in the conversation between Dan and Little Ed was strange, like they either forgot she existed or didn't want to remind us of her.

The numerous estrangements necessary for things to have played out as that episode presented cannot all co-exist in any logical universe.

Edited November 18, 2022 by Bastet

[peacheslatour]

I was thinking of the episode Boo! today. At first I thought it was a total drag that DJ didn't get to go out trick or treating with his friends. Then I recalled that DJ didn't really have any friends. I'd like to think that the haunted house they made was a tactful way to give DJ a way to enjoy Halloween. But tactful wasn't really in the Conners' coping arsenal was it?

[Rocknrollzombie]

https://tvline.com/lists/the-conners-finale-recap-johnny-galecki-david-healy-season-6/
 

official no more David no more Johnny this episode was it a closure for David character come on man, such bs

So the EPs are blind as well

[Im a 90s kid]

15 hours ago, Rocknrollzombie said:

https://tvline.com/lists/the-conners-finale-recap-johnny-galecki-david-healy-season-6/
 

official no more David no more Johnny this episode was it a closure for David character come on man, such bs

So the EPs are blind as well

It is BS I agree 100%. Bruce Helford and Dave Caplan don't even try to hide that this episode was designed to bash David. They wanted to remind the audience of what a terrible father he is and make Ben the stand-up guy who has always been a father to Mark.

Edited May 4, 2023 by Im a 90s kid

[CrystalBlue]

3 hours ago, Im a 90s kid said:

It is BS I agree 100%. Bruce Helford and Dave Caplan don't even try to hide that this episode was designed to bash David. They wanted to remind the audience of what a terrible father he is and make Ben the stand-up guy who has always been a father to Mark.

They did point out that Ben wasn't there for Mark's first 11 years because Ben hadn't met Darlene yet.

Instead of waiting for Johnny Galecki to maybe fit The Conners into his schedule, the writers should have written him off the show by him somehow sadly dying.  Now that would have been closure.

[emmyG]

Maybe they thought it would be weird if both Healy brothers died?

[CrystalBlue]

59 minutes ago, emmyG said:

Maybe they thought it would be weird if both Healy brothers died?

Well, it happens IRL.

[Im a 90s kid]

7 hours ago, emmyG said:

Maybe they thought it would be weird if both Healy brothers died?

I don't know what their thinking process was but even if they never planned to have Johnny Galecki on the show there was no reason to write him as a deadbeat dad again.

At the end of Season 2 when David broke up with Darlene for good, he told her that he would always be there for the kids.

And they could have honored that, even if David was off-screen the whole time they could have still made it where he was involved with his kids. They could have had scenes where he called them on the phone and talked to them.

 In the episodes when Harris and Mark weren't seen they could have played it they were spending the weekend with him. Darlene could have mentioned she was receiving child support payments from him. 

And it is the same with this episode, they didn't have to have the characters bash him for the whole episode. They could have had it where he was going to go but couldn't because of work but he still sent Mark a check for him to use on books or whatever else he needed for college. And with it could have been a letter stating how proud he was of him and all that he has accomplished. 

The point is they didn't have to have David disappoint Mark. They could have had David be involved and have a relationship with his kids without ever having him make an appearance, but instead, they chose to make him a terrible father who doesn't care about his kids just so they could make Ben appear better.

Edited May 5, 2023 by Im a 90s kid

[greekmom]

On 5/1/2023 at 7:03 PM, Rocknrollzombie said:

Good news for everyone who wants this empty husk, out of touch, making working class people seem like idiots show to end it maybe ending finally!!!

Hopefully this just gets cancelled due to the writers strike.

They didn't have to totally trash David.  They didn't show the graduation and could have said he was there but had to leave and couldn't come to the party. Or David was back at the house.  Or even pulled a Darren.  Not that hard.

[Im a 90s kid]

Boo! is one of my favorite episodes of Roseanne, I just always loved how the family had the house made up like a haunted attraction. My other favorites are Trick or Treat, and Halloween IV.

 

Edited May 10, 2023 by Im a 90s kid

[Yeah No]

I'm not exactly thrilled with the writers either.  After all, they're the ones that are writing this dreck...

[emmyG]

On a show like this the writers are generally just doing what they're told by the people in charge - they flesh out the details but they're not generally choosing the storyline direction.

[Yeah No]

9 hours ago, emmyG said:

On a show like this the writers are generally just doing what they're told by the people in charge - they flesh out the details but they're not generally choosing the storyline direction.

No, but if Seinfeld proved anything it was that a sitcom doesn't even need a storyline direction to be funny as long as the writing is good....

[Angeltoes]

Bring back Ziggy!

[xls]

WTH is DJ almost never in this show? No story, a line here & there even the little girl who supposed to be his daughter (?) remains unseen. Yet they filled up the house with new characters! pisses me off