EAG46 April 14, 2017 Share April 14, 2017 Watch the other two parts of the Casey Anthony story. They detail more of how the defense brought in Reasonable Doubt in a major way. Part 3 deals with after the trial and was the most interesting. Toby was referring to this guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marjoe_Gortner Fascinating dude. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/71664-the-blotter-presents/page/2/#findComment-3180644
Sarah D. Bunting April 14, 2017 Author Share April 14, 2017 I found Part 2 so dull that I could not keep my attention on it. Should I still try Part 3? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/71664-the-blotter-presents/page/2/#findComment-3180650
David T. Cole April 14, 2017 Share April 14, 2017 Oops, the first in-show clip is missing from the original upload. Here it is if you already listened to the ep:http://traffic.libsyn.com/previouslytv/blotter-005-clip.mp3 Otherwise, we’ve re-uploaded episode 5 with clip 1 restored. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/71664-the-blotter-presents/page/2/#findComment-3180891
Pogojoco April 14, 2017 Share April 14, 2017 The second documentary of the three Paradise Lost films really drives home the Byers as killer theory. The victims had bite marks on them that didn't match any of the Three. The defense wanted to test Byers but he'd had all of his teeth pulled four years after the kids were killed. The bite mark situation is weird in general, because they weren't identified as such until much later and based on pictures of the bodies. Byers also gives the filmmakers a knife for testing. I agree- Echols seems like every art-y, moody teenager who hates his town and Byers is far more strange. The documentary about this that wasn't made by these filmmakers "West of Memphis" actually points the finger at a different stepfather, Terry Hobbs (Stevie Branch's stepfather.) Sarah- your description of Byers as "Miltonian" is great. Ties back into the name of the documentaries. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/71664-the-blotter-presents/page/2/#findComment-3181561
swimmyfish April 15, 2017 Share April 15, 2017 2 hours ago, Pogojoco said: The second documentary of the three Paradise Lost films really drives home the Byers as killer theory. The victims had bite marks on them that didn't match any of the Three. The defense wanted to test Byers but he'd had all of his teeth pulled four years after the kids were killed. The bite mark situation is weird in general, because they weren't identified as such until much later and based on pictures of the bodies. Byers also gives the filmmakers a knife for testing. I also rented Paradise Lost from my local video store a few years after it was released, so I came to it with an awareness that most people considered Byers the actual killer. It made it very difficult for me to enjoy (well, "enjoy") the film because it seemed very clear to me that the case against Byers - his general odd behavior, that he would give the film-makers a knife at all, much less one that turned out to have blood on it - was just as speculative as the 'evidence' against the WM3. I think it speaks both to how compelling that case was as well as to the point Todd made in the podcast about the Amanda Knox case, how people can feel they have a full understanding of a case, enough to definitely name a killer, even though they actually know very little about it. And I agree with Pogojoco - the second film in the series does make it clear that the film-makers considered Byers a viable suspect in the case. And he does indeed seem very shady - when he talked about pulling his teeth, he said it was because a medication he was taking (Tegretol, I believe - he had such a careful way of pronouncing it), was making them loose, but there was a chyron stating that loose teeth is not a side effect of Tegretol. Additionally, by the time the second film was underway, his wife had died. I don't remember the specifics of her death, but there was at least an implication in the film that it was under suspicious circumstances. Again, though, all of this odd behavior on his part doesn't necessarily make him guilty of anything. That being said, the two films really are exceptionally well done. I don't think there's any question that those boys would still be in prison if not for the attention brought by HBO films and all of the people who were moved to take up their fight. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/71664-the-blotter-presents/page/2/#findComment-3181936
jenrising April 15, 2017 Share April 15, 2017 Listening to this definitely made me want to watch the Paradise Lost films again, so thanks for ruining my "work this weekend" plan. It was great to hear Toby mention Marjoe. I remember watching that, riveted. I've got the Casey Anthony mess sitting on my DVR, from reading here it looks like I might just check out part 3. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/71664-the-blotter-presents/page/2/#findComment-3182819
Sarah D. Bunting April 15, 2017 Author Share April 15, 2017 Here's me on seeing the premiere of Paradise Lost's final chapter: http://tomatonation.com/culture-and-criticism/paradise-lost-3-purgatory-and-the-mixing-of-blessings/ Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/71664-the-blotter-presents/page/2/#findComment-3182820
EAG46 April 15, 2017 Share April 15, 2017 I found part 3 of the Casey Anthony story the most interesting, because it focused on the verdict and the "what happened afterwards" part of the story. Also because Judge Belvin Perry appeared in it and he seemed to be the most sensible person in the whole mess. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/71664-the-blotter-presents/page/2/#findComment-3183094
Primetimer April 24, 2017 Share April 24, 2017 TV's got tons of content looking back at the L.A. riots in 1992; John Ramos joined Sarah D. Bunting for a closer look at two documentaries. View the full article Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/71664-the-blotter-presents/page/2/#findComment-3208963
MCMLXXVII April 25, 2017 Share April 25, 2017 The movie "Colors" (1988) is really good watching on L.A.'s racial relations. I first watched it in a crime film class around 2008 and was surprised how much of a premonition it was to the riots. The "Straight out of Compton" movie (and it's police backlash upon release) is of course relevant, and it totally proved N.W.A.'s point about their thin-skinnedness/narcissism. A now officer with whom I attended h.s. was on FB super upset about "Fuck the Police" t-shirts being sold on Amazon at the time. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/71664-the-blotter-presents/page/2/#findComment-3213509
Sarah D. Bunting April 26, 2017 Author Share April 26, 2017 On that tip I'd also recommend "Rampart," which literally nobody saw. Fantastic performances, and the city is a character, but not in an overbearing way. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/71664-the-blotter-presents/page/2/#findComment-3216080
Pogojoco April 27, 2017 Share April 27, 2017 (edited) "Magical negro" wasn't called that until pretty recently (Spike Lee coined it, I think) but the trope is from the 19th century- it can be argued that Jim in Huckleberry Finn is one. But Song of the South is definitely one of the earlier filmed ones. Crash is Trash. It was a Powerpoint presentation on race. The fact that it won over Brokeback Mountain is one of the worst things in the history of things. Los Angeles is a fascinating place. That 30 for 30 is one of the best of that series of docs. Edited April 27, 2017 by Pogojoco Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/71664-the-blotter-presents/page/2/#findComment-3219710
Sarah D. Bunting April 27, 2017 Author Share April 27, 2017 LA92 is airing this Sunday on NatGeo if you'd like to check it out! http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/la-92/videos/la-92-a-first-look/ Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/71664-the-blotter-presents/page/2/#findComment-3220815
John Potts April 27, 2017 Share April 27, 2017 2 hours ago, Sarah D. Bunting said: LA92 is airing this Sunday on NatGeo if you'd like to check it out! It's on Nat Geo in the UK too on Saturday at 9pm (we get it first in the UK, apparently, though not on a Channel I can see). Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/71664-the-blotter-presents/page/2/#findComment-3221284
Primetimer May 5, 2017 Share May 5, 2017 Dick Wolf's back in the non-fiction space with a look at the Fibbies' New York office -- and Dan Patrick Brady's here to discuss it, plus stupid underage-drinking tricks! Chung chung! View the full article Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/71664-the-blotter-presents/page/2/#findComment-3246408
Primetimer May 10, 2017 Share May 10, 2017 Kevin Smokler and Sarah D. Bunting talk about a not-so-hot take on Boulder's most notorious cold case, plus the granddaddy of TV true crime. View the full article Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/71664-the-blotter-presents/page/2/#findComment-3262841
txhorns79 May 12, 2017 Share May 12, 2017 I'm just glad I'm not the only one who has watched Unsolved Mysteries late at night and has run off to be protected by their significant other for fear that whatever mysteriously disappeared person, murderous hitchhiker or ghost is suddenly going to show up at their home and get them. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/71664-the-blotter-presents/page/2/#findComment-3271052
veronicamers May 12, 2017 Share May 12, 2017 (edited) Fab episode. I was such an Unsolved Mystery devotee back in the day. I watched it with my parents both of whom were into the paranormal stuff where I was more of a missing person/unsolved murder type. As Kevin noted, something for everyone. Sadly, a season 2 episode chronicles the tragic 1988 hit and run of four young men from my hometown. Killed in the accident was the boyfriend of my childhood best friend's sister. It is a haunting case, still unsolved: http://unsolved.com/archives/greensboro-hit-and-run Edited May 15, 2017 by veronicamers Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/71664-the-blotter-presents/page/2/#findComment-3271181
Sarah D. Bunting May 12, 2017 Author Share May 12, 2017 My hunt for my husband's moment of UM glory continues; watch this space! Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/71664-the-blotter-presents/page/2/#findComment-3272154
txhorns79 May 13, 2017 Share May 13, 2017 (edited) He was one of the actors in a reenactment? How neat! Edited May 13, 2017 by txhorns79 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/71664-the-blotter-presents/page/2/#findComment-3273118
Sarah D. Bunting May 13, 2017 Author Share May 13, 2017 It would be if we could find the damn thing! Every time I'm about to give up, a residuals check arrives from Cosgrove-Meurer and we're like, DAMMIT IT WAS JUST ON SPIKE WASN'T IT. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/71664-the-blotter-presents/page/2/#findComment-3274258
txhorns79 May 13, 2017 Share May 13, 2017 Does he have any recollection of the subject matter for what he was re-enacting? Murderous boyfriend? Ghost orphan? Teenage parent whose baby was stolen by an evil judge? Mysteriously vanished war veteran who someone thought they saw in some vaguely Midwestern town? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/71664-the-blotter-presents/page/2/#findComment-3274873
Sarah D. Bunting May 15, 2017 Author Share May 15, 2017 He knows it wasn't a ghost or UFO segment. He knows he was a cop; he's pretty sure he was a plainclothes detective and that one of his scenes involved him drawing down on a suspect/fugitive over the hood of a car. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/71664-the-blotter-presents/page/2/#findComment-3279678
txhorns79 May 16, 2017 Share May 16, 2017 (edited) Oh gosh, I think that describes like 75% of the Unsolved Mysteries episodes. Good luck with finding him. Maybe someone reading this tonight will be able to help solve this particular mystery. It might even be you. *sad music fade out* Edited May 16, 2017 by txhorns79 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/71664-the-blotter-presents/page/2/#findComment-3281984
Sarah D. Bunting May 16, 2017 Author Share May 16, 2017 Oh, don't I know it. [Casio plinking as thread hopes for "Update!"] Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/71664-the-blotter-presents/page/2/#findComment-3283216
Primetimer May 17, 2017 Share May 17, 2017 Stephanie Green returns to discuss HBO's take on the Blanchard/Munchausen's-by-proxy case, plus Australia's most lethal Bunting. View the full article Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/71664-the-blotter-presents/page/2/#findComment-3286935
EAG46 May 17, 2017 Share May 17, 2017 I couldn't hear the Australian clips. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/71664-the-blotter-presents/page/2/#findComment-3287665
FozzyBear May 17, 2017 Share May 17, 2017 I didn't follow the Casey Anthony case all that carefully, but it always struck me as a case where the prosecution screwed themselves by starting the game clock before they were ready. They didn't really have a clear picture of what happened before they pressed charges and had to move forward. I even remember the prosecution's closing argument had some line about not really knowing what happened to the little girl. I had a WTF moment because you should have a pretty good idea if you think it's a murder. It seemed like they were asking the jury to convict Casey of doing something bad at some time that somehow hurt Caylee and probably killed her or something like that. And the jury was like "Nope! We convict people of actual things!" I'm guessing it was public pressure, but the DAs office just really did not seem ready to go to trial. I also remember getting Casey and Caylee's names mixed up because, seriously? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/71664-the-blotter-presents/page/2/#findComment-3287785
Sarah D. Bunting May 17, 2017 Author Share May 17, 2017 Weird, we could hear them in-record. I'll have a look. Sorry about that! Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/71664-the-blotter-presents/page/2/#findComment-3288196
Sarah D. Bunting May 17, 2017 Author Share May 17, 2017 And this is now fixed! (Re-)downloading now should give you all the "manipulative Bunting" clips your heart and mine desire. hee. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/71664-the-blotter-presents/page/2/#findComment-3288269
EAG46 May 17, 2017 Share May 17, 2017 Thank you Sarah! [Just out of curiosity, what does the D stand for?] Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/71664-the-blotter-presents/page/2/#findComment-3288282
klowey May 17, 2017 Share May 17, 2017 Sarah - I don't know if you are familiar with the Casefile podcast, but he looked at the Snowtown murders in episode 19: casefilepodcast.com/case-19-snowtown/ Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/71664-the-blotter-presents/page/2/#findComment-3288294
Sarah D. Bunting May 17, 2017 Author Share May 17, 2017 Ooh, I'll check that out, @klowey. (My middle name is "Douglas," as was my grandfather's. Try not to steal my identity/debt, hee.) Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/71664-the-blotter-presents/page/2/#findComment-3288300
PerfectlyObvious May 17, 2017 Share May 17, 2017 The Snowtown Murders was one of the few movies that I had to stop watching mid-way through due to being so uncomfortable with the events as portrayed (knowing it was based on real crimes). Disturbing in the worst way. On the other hand, I loved your comment, "Use the correct acid". Such good advice, everyone. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/71664-the-blotter-presents/page/2/#findComment-3288969
Pogojoco May 18, 2017 Share May 18, 2017 "Various coloured fluids...." Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/71664-the-blotter-presents/page/2/#findComment-3290467
FormerMod-a1 May 18, 2017 Share May 18, 2017 Was the Gypsy and DeeDee Blanchard case covered on some other show? I swear I saw something, maybe on the ID channel. I know I have read articles, too, but I don't usually confuse my reading with my TV. :-) I do sympathize so hard with Gypsy - Deedee mentally and physically abused her her whole life. We have no idea what that can do to someone. I, too, hope she can get the psychological help she needs/deserves. I also think she is probably happy in prison - feeling better than she's ever felt before since she's not taking meds she doesn't need, getting normal and regular meals every day, going outside, not worrying about lying correctly for mom, etc. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/71664-the-blotter-presents/page/2/#findComment-3291635
Sarah D. Bunting May 18, 2017 Author Share May 18, 2017 I think maybe Dateline tried to scoop HBO a few weeks ago? You're not wrong, but I can't remember where I saw it either. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/71664-the-blotter-presents/page/2/#findComment-3292127
txhorns79 May 19, 2017 Share May 19, 2017 Quote I also think she is probably happy in prison - feeling better than she's ever felt before since she's not taking meds she doesn't need, getting normal and regular meals every day, going outside, not worrying about lying correctly for mom, etc. It definitely gives you a sense of her life that she'll have a better time in prison than living with her mother. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/71664-the-blotter-presents/page/2/#findComment-3296376
Primetimer May 24, 2017 Share May 24, 2017 Tara Ariano and Sarah D. Bunting on recovered memories in Baltimore and a provincial narcissist in Saskatchewan. View the full article Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/71664-the-blotter-presents/page/2/#findComment-3310221
tita May 24, 2017 Share May 24, 2017 Re: Love & Hate -- Wow, you guys. what a journey! There was some *major* thespianing in those clips. I'm the same age as Tara and I'm from Regina, so your examination of the movie was a total time-machine experience. Thanks for enduring the hours of shitty YouTube clips for my benefit! I don't remember ever watching this movie but, like Tara, I was pretty steeped in the story as the trial was taking place. I think by the time the film came along, I felt like I knew the whole saga and didn't need to watch it on tv. The whole story still makes me pretty uneasy, especially since Thatcher's out and about in the community these days. Uch, what a creep. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/71664-the-blotter-presents/page/2/#findComment-3310956
Sarah D. Bunting May 26, 2017 Author Share May 26, 2017 Hello! We're off this coming week, but here's what's coming up in June: - E011: Kim Reed on Bill Cosby and Dr. Robert Neulander - E012: Alex Collins on Menendez: Blood Brothers ("the Courtney Love one") and TBD - E013: Eve Batey's back for a Jonestown special ep In other news, if anyone watched James Ellroy's LA: City of Demons and can tell me/future guests whether or not to bother, I'd love to know. Thanks for listening! Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/71664-the-blotter-presents/page/2/#findComment-3319565
FormerMod-a1 May 27, 2017 Share May 27, 2017 Please tell me you're going to cover A&E's/Biography Channel's "Who Killed Tupac?" and "Biggie: The Life of Notorious B.I.G.". Rolling Stone article: Notorious B.I.G., Tupac Shakur Documentaries Headed to A&E Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/71664-the-blotter-presents/page/2/#findComment-3322486
Sarah D. Bunting May 28, 2017 Author Share May 28, 2017 They're on the short list for sure. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/71664-the-blotter-presents/page/2/#findComment-3324921
ScoobyDrew May 29, 2017 Share May 29, 2017 I don't know if it's Canadian, but there is a movie KARLA starring Laura Prepon and Misha Collins ...it's craptastic and and gross. Apparently the conditions on the set were terrible, with the production team finally having to file a restraining order against the director, because he threatened to come into the offices and shoot everyone ... he also said one of the rape scenes was "really hot" I think it might be on Netflix, I know it is on youtube. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/71664-the-blotter-presents/page/2/#findComment-3328077
MCMLXXVII June 1, 2017 Share June 1, 2017 Vili Fualaau and Mary Kay are over, might be interesting to revisit. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40103601 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/71664-the-blotter-presents/page/2/#findComment-3336368
Sarah D. Bunting June 1, 2017 Author Share June 1, 2017 Oof, yeah, I saw that. If those crazy kids can't...wait, that's not how I want to put that at all. :/ Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/71664-the-blotter-presents/page/2/#findComment-3336411
swimmyfish June 1, 2017 Share June 1, 2017 5 hours ago, MCMLXXVII said: Vili Fualaau and Mary Kay are over, might be interesting to revisit. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40103601 Wow, the BBC is not pulling any punches with that headline. Good work, Beeb. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/71664-the-blotter-presents/page/2/#findComment-3337157
Sarah D. Bunting June 5, 2017 Author Share June 5, 2017 Ugh, Biography just punted both the Biggie and the Tupac specials to September (they had set airdates at the end of this month; wonder what happened). So much for E014. Any suggestions for the week of 6/26? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/71664-the-blotter-presents/page/2/#findComment-3347670
FormerMod-a1 June 5, 2017 Share June 5, 2017 45 minutes ago, Sarah D. Bunting said: Ugh, Biography just punted both the Biggie and the Tupac specials to September (they had set airdates at the end of this month; wonder what happened). So much for E014. Any suggestions for the week of 6/26? I can only think of things that have already aired, or may be too far in the summer, but here they are. Other people may have better ideas. Oklahoma City on PBSAmerica's War on Drugs on A&EManhunt: Unabomber on DiscoveryChristine on Netflix Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/71664-the-blotter-presents/page/2/#findComment-3347798
formerlyfreedom June 6, 2017 Share June 6, 2017 @Sarah D. Bunting, it's a little older, but I've been intrigued by what I've heard about Audrie & Daisy. And grossly, there's stuff coming about Bill Cosby, but I'm not sure my shower gets hot enough to wash that crap away.... Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/71664-the-blotter-presents/page/2/#findComment-3349049
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