Season 20: Live Feed Discussion

[zorak]

JC is trying to convince Faysal to vote out Swaggy again.  Faysal wanted to know if JC had talked to Haleigh.  He said that all he said to Haleigh was that he is going to do what is best for his game, which is a lie because he flat out told Haleigh his advice was to vote out Swaggy.

[peachmangosteen]

7 minutes ago, zorak said:

Faysal seems to firmly be on the keep Swaggy train.

Which I personally love. I mean what the fuck does it matter if he votes to evict him? It's not like Level 6 will be like, oh Fessy evicted Swaggy, we totally shouldn't target him now! I love that he isn't gonna evict him just to 'go with the house' when that means nothing. I'm starting to like him more now that he doesn't spend most of his time trying to be in a showmance with Haleigh.

Why is Tyler still spending so much time with Kaitlyn? He should have started slowly detaching himself from her like as soon as the POV ceremony was over.

[Callaphera]

Oh yay, Rockstar is on the Brett and Winston suck train again. She misses her "underground" friends.

[Alice Mudgarden]

1 minute ago, peachmangosteen said:

Why is Tyler still spending so much time with Kaitlyn? He should have started slowly detaching himself from her like as soon as the POV ceremony was over.

If I had to guess, it's probably to make sure she doesn't change her mind before tonight, in the event she's needed for a tie breaking vote.

[peachmangosteen]

2 minutes ago, Callaphera said:

Oh yay, Rockstar is on the Brett and Winston suck train again. She misses her "underground" friends.

One of the few things I enjoy this season is her hate for the bros. Oddly enough one of the other things is the bros' relationship.

2 minutes ago, Alice Mudgarden said:

If I had to guess, it's probably to make sure she doesn't change her mind before tonight, in the event she's needed for a tie breaking vote.

Forgot it could be a tie. I mean, it won't, but still good point. It'll be interesting to see how he moves forward with her. I hope he drops her like a hot potato so she loses her mind and I can have some fun feeds.

[Callaphera]

4 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

Why is Tyler still spending so much time with Kaitlyn? He should have started slowly detaching himself from her like as soon as the POV ceremony was over.

I'm starting to think that Tyler likes the attention as much as Kaitlyn does. He could have shut it down at any time but he's still all over her. He created his own issue because now he can't extract himself from her without her melting down and spreading everything he ever said to the rest of the house, so he's stuck petting and caressing and cuddling with her.

Sucks to be you, Tyler, but you did it to yourself. 

[zorak]

I have an irrational dislike of Scottie.  He just bugs for some reason.

[Brian Cronin]

55 minutes ago, Alice Mudgarden said:

Listening to this, I wouldn't say no one in season 10 played for a long time. I think a lot of people were playing the game from the beginning, Dan was just the best at it overall. Saying something like that kind of undermines his victory in a way.

[/season 10 defense]

Yeah, it's kind of absurd to suggest that no one else was playing that season. That's just not what happened.

[peachmangosteen]

Yea, I'm thinking the same about Tyler, @Callaphera. I also think he really likes having people around him that will do his bidding without seriously questioning him. Kaitlyn's nuts though and she requires more effort to be a sycophant than he thought.

[zorak]

Brett looks like he's auditioning to be in the Village People as he walks around shirtless, with a jean jacket on, and his Fu Manchu moustache.

[Callaphera]

2 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

Yea, I'm thinking the same about Tyler, @Callaphera. I also think he really likes having people around him that will do his bidding without seriously questioning him. Kaitlyn's nuts though and she requires more effort to be a sycophant than he thought.

Kinda reminds me of Danielle Murphree. 

[zorak]

Scottie is wearing a Swaggy C shirt.

[peachmangosteen]

1 minute ago, zorak said:

Scottie is wearing a Swaggy C shirt.

That is so very stupid lol. Still oddly endearing to me though.

Are the thumbnails above the feed you're watching like super far behind for anyone else? All season they've been like a half hour behind for me. It's really annoying.

[zorak]

[peachmangosteen]

Gross. 

ETA: Rockstar must be having a field day with this.

Edited July 12, 2018 by peachmangosteen

[zorak]

2 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

Are the thumbnails above the feed you're watching like super far behind for anyone else? All season they've been like a half hour behind for me. It's really annoying.

Mine seem to be slightly ahead of whatever camera I'm watching.  I can see what's about to happen before I see it happen.  

Haleigh:  "Astrology is cool.  One of my friends knows all the constellations, all the stars."

[peachmangosteen]

2 minutes ago, zorak said:

Mine seem to be slightly ahead of whatever camera I'm watching.  I can see what's about to happen before I see it happen.  

That's how mine were in the past, but this season they're ridiculously behind. Like right now they're showing JC/Faysal talking.

[zorak]

Rockstar is complaining to Haleigh and Scottie that Winston and Angela have no personality.  

[peachmangosteen]

She's wrong about Winston, but right as hell about Angela.

And normally I hate the whole 'no personality' claim, but Angela is seriously the biggest dud of a person lol.

Edited July 12, 2018 by peachmangosteen

[Callaphera]

1 minute ago, zorak said:

Rockstar is complaining to Haleigh and Scottie that Winston and Angela have no personality.  

I can't really argue with Angela having no personality. But Winston has shit tons (of paranoia, anyway).

[zorak]

Rockstar is complaining that Winston has never come to her since getting on the block to talk to her about why she should keep him.  Well, probably because he knows it's a lost cause.  Much like Swaggy said he didn't bother talking to Angela about keeping him because he knew it was a lost cause.

Rockstar is still wearing the dress she said you could see her nipples through.  She said she'll probably have to put something else on.  I'm shocked she's not wearing a Swaggy C shirt considering she was telling Faysal earlier today that maybe she's just too loyal for this game.

[Brian Cronin]

That's definitely not a good look for her. "I know and he knows that I am not going to vote for him to stay and he knows and I know that he doesn't need my vote to stay, but he should still try to get it for...reasons."

[Callaphera]

See, this is why I can't with Rockstar. Faysal was asking her about what age she would like to be, if she could be any age for the rest of her life. 27 was her answer, because she got her tits around that time and then "all the white boys started hitting on me". 

First of all, look in a fucking mirror, you're as Caucasian as all the other "fucking white people" in the house. And second, as someone who is definitely not well represented in the chesticle area, boobs aren't the deciding factor for why you get hit on. I just... Grrr. Keep eating those crackers, Rockstar, and I'll keep bitching. 

ETA: It's not the constant bitching about "white people" that Rockstar does that pisses me off. It's how much disgust she always has in her voice when she says it. 

Edited July 12, 2018 by Callaphera

[Ceeg]

Scottie wearing a Swaggy C shirt is so so so dumb. If his side doesn't win HOH, he's gonna be a target. 

[peachmangosteen]

6 minutes ago, Ceeg said:

Scottie wearing a Swaggy C shirt is so so so dumb. If his side doesn't win HOH, he's gonna be a target. 

I mean, he definitely was gonna be already, but it's still stupid lol.

To be fair to Rockstar, us white people really do suck!

[Brian Cronin]

Just now, peachmangosteen said:

I mean, he definitely was gonna be already, but it's still stupid lol.

To be fair to Rockstar, us white people really do suck!

Rockstar's problem is that when she says it, she really does sound like she's talking about a different group of people. 

As for Scottie, he was probably going up no matter what, but now he might be an actual target.

[IndyMischa]

44 minutes ago, zorak said:

Confession being good for the soul and all... I would hit it like the wrath of god. Ridiculous stache and all. 

[Callaphera]

8 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

To be fair to Rockstar, us white people really do suck!

We do, no arguments there. But she talks like she's... not? Because she's so "woke", y'know. Own up to it but don't act like you're not part of it. 

[Skycatcher]

18 minutes ago, IndyMischa said:

Confession being good for the soul and all... I would hit it like the wrath of god. Ridiculous stache and all. 

Oh, yeah. In a heart beat!

 

35 minutes ago, Callaphera said:

and then "all the white boys started hitting on me". 

 

Geez! Racist much? Isn't this the BEC  who was bitching about the racism inherent in nominating Swaggy because he was black?  I find this level of racism -  let's call it "woke-er then thou" -  much more offensive then singing along with lyrics or idly commenting on a level of  tan  which is unconscious. Yeah it's stupid, but it's also thoughtless, unintentional.

But yeah I'm white, and we do suck.

Edited July 12, 2018 by Skycatcher

[Brian Cronin]

Idle racism tends to be the most real form of it. If you just casually drop "I'm looking ghetto here with the skin coloration." into your conversation, it's a really bad look.

Agreed, though, that Kaitlyn singing along was a different kind of stupid.

[Growsonwalls]

I think Rockstar isn't a bad person. She's just one of those people that I think is naturally a bit of an oddball. So the way she feels like she can fit in with Swaggy/Baleigh/Haleigh/Fessy is this "I'm so woke" stuff. Haleigh is even more whitebread and much younger but I think she's more mature in this particular area of life in that she doesn't feel the need to affirm her own friendships with people of a different demographic by proving how "woke" she is. 

[Skycatcher]

1 minute ago, Growsonwalls said:

I think Rockstar isn't a bad person.

Haleigh doesn't feel the need to ......proving how "woke" she is. 

 I really, really dislike people who are constantly trying to prove how woke they are.

[Growsonwalls]

Just now, Skycatcher said:

 I really, really dislike people who are constantly trying to prove how woke they are.

Tell me about it. Especially when it's to utter such profound thoughts as "Beyonce and Jay-Z are in the Illuminati."

[Callaphera]

5 minutes ago, Growsonwalls said:

I think Rockstar isn't a bad person. She's just one of those people that I think is naturally a bit of an oddball. So the way she feels like she can fit in with Swaggy/Baleigh/Haleigh/Fessy is this "I'm so woke" stuff. Haleigh is even more whitebread and much younger but I think she's more mature in this particular area of life in that she doesn't feel the need to affirm her own friendships with people of a different demographic by proving how "woke" she is. 

I don't either. I think Rockstar just tries so hard to project herself as that "woke" person (and basically sounds like she's repeating everything she ever read on Tumblr) that she ends up turning it around on itself and she doesn't realize how she can sound. Her comment would have been perfectly fine had she dropped the "white" part of it and it would have been just as teeth gnashing if she had said "black boys". Or hell, here's an idea: how about just not commenting on what someone's skin colour may be - period - when you say something like that. 

Rockstar, it's okay to not fit in with everyone. It's okay if you can't relate to everyone. But if you're gonna turn the spotlight on something like that, you should be standing in it, too. Don't hide in the corner and act like you're better than everyone else. 

[Skycatcher]

56 minutes ago, Callaphera said:

 if she could be any age for the rest of her life. 27 was her answer, because she got her tits around that time and then "all the white boys started hitting on me". 

I hear the implication that before age 27 black guys.....

(white boys, black.....guys? I wouldn't dare say black .......well, you know)  

........would hit on her and thank goodness that now that she's got boobs the white boys are finally hitting on her.

[Katesus7]

So, as much as I prefer Level Six to the other “side” of the house, What I’d really like to see happen is Bayleigh win HOH, Level six to commence freaking out (Kaitlyn freaking is a given and no longer interesting to me), her plan to be to backdoor Tyler, him having an inkling it’s going to happen so he uses his power (thus both saving him and getting it out of the way) and Bayleigh having to scramble on figuring out who to nominate.

Yep, that sounds fun. What will actually happen is Angela winning and all of us being bored out of our minds all week.

[kellog010]

I don't particularly care who wins HOH tonight - as long as they leave the Bro's alone. I like watching them. Everyone else is fair game for now. :)

[Brian Cronin]

16 minutes ago, Katesus7 said:

So, as much as I prefer Level Six to the other “side” of the house, What I’d really like to see happen is Bayleigh win HOH, Level six to commence freaking out (Kaitlyn freaking is a given and no longer interesting to me), her plan to be to backdoor Tyler, him having an inkling it’s going to happen so he uses his power (thus both saving him and getting it out of the way) and Bayleigh having to scramble on figuring out who to nominate.

Yep, that sounds fun. What will actually happen is Angela winning and all of us being bored out of our minds all week.

Oh man, his ability to completely block a backdoor IS pretty funny. He's smart also for hiding his power, as otherwise you'd obviously get him to use it and THEN backdoor him. 

[vb68]

1 hour ago, zorak said:

Scottie is wearing a Swaggy C shirt.

Of course he is. Oblivious as always.

1 hour ago, peachmangosteen said:

Are the thumbnails above the feed you're watching like super far behind for anyone else? All season they've been like a half hour behind for me. It's really annoying.

They are behind for me as well. I haven't timed it, but it could be by about half an hour.

[Callaphera]

3 minutes ago, Brian Cronin said:

Oh man, his ability to completely block a backdoor IS pretty funny. He's smart also for hiding his power, as otherwise you'd obviously get him to use it and THEN backdoor him. 

Did they ever confirm that Tyler's Cloud safety keeps him safe for the whole week or just that particular nomination ceremony? So if he used it when he thought he was going on the block during initial noms, does it keep him safe through the Veto noms or just for that one particular moment? Because it would be hilarious if he Clouds himself on the original noms but ends up the post-Veto nom and backdoored. 

[Lady Calypso]

5 minutes ago, Callaphera said:

Did they ever confirm that Tyler's Cloud safety keeps him safe for the whole week or just that particular nomination ceremony? So if he used it when he thought he was going on the block during initial noms, does it keep him safe through the Veto noms or just for that one particular moment? Because it would be hilarious if he Clouds himself on the original noms but ends up the post-Veto nom and backdoored. 

I believe it only keeps him safe for one of the ceremonies. So if he uses it for the Nomination Ceremony, he can be backdoored. Tyler's power isn't that great. The only way it works is if he has the knowledge that he's the target or is going on the block. If he doesn't have that knowledge, then he shouldn't use his power. I imagine most would backdoor him due to him doing well in comps. 

[vb68]

1 minute ago, Callaphera said:

Did they ever confirm that Tyler's Cloud safety keeps him safe for the whole week or just that particular nomination ceremony? So if he used it when he thought he was going on the block during initial noms, does it keep him safe through the Veto noms or just for that one particular moment? Because it would be hilarious if he Clouds himself on the original noms but ends up the post-Veto nom and backdoored. 

Yeah, I think that's a problem. He'll have to guess if he's going to be straight nominated or backdoored.  If and when Swaggy leaves tonight, I would bet any of Swaggy's group- Bayleigh, RS, or Fessie- would want payback through a backdoor.

Question about JC. How much is he aware of Level 6 and how solid they are?  I was just thinking this as I was reading upthread that he was telling Haleigh that Swaggy would never  get Rachel's or Kaycee's votes.  I think he basically knows they are a solid and wants to work with them while voting but doesn't want to be restricted socially. He seems to have a bit of a thing for Fessie.

[Brian Cronin]

I think it's still valuable, as you'd only use it in the case of a backdoor possibility. Otherwise, take your chances (and hope that Sam saves you if it is in the next couple of weeks). 

As for when to use it for a backdoor protection, just do it whenever the other side has an HoH and you're not an initial nominee.

[Callaphera]

In other words, it would be safer to nominate him straight up and hope he doesn't get Vetoed out of the nom chair. Not that the HGs know that because dude has been surprisingly tight lipped about it but still. 

Bayleigh for HoH! I want some retaliatory noms this week.

[vb68]

Also remember if Tyler is nominated this week, he's thinking about Sam's power too.

Tyler is also smart enough to know there's a better than average chance that Kait gets the power this week. So another reason to keep her close is to get her to spill the beans on that.

[kellog010]

I think getting Tyler out on a double eviction would be the best way so he'd have little time to campaign.

[Lady Calypso]

10 minutes ago, vb68 said:

Question about JC. How much is he aware of Level 6 and how solid they are?  I was just thinking this as I was reading upthread that he was telling Haleigh that Swaggy would never  get Rachel's or Kaycee's votes.  I think he basically knows they are a solid and wants to work with them while voting but doesn't want to be restricted socially. He seems to have a bit of a thing for Fessie.

I actually don't know. I want to say he does know about them. He's definitely on their side of the house, but I'm not sure he knows directly about the six. He's been working with Tyler, I know that much, and he does tell Rachel/Angela/Brett/Winston a lot. 

7 minutes ago, Callaphera said:

In other words, it would be safer to nominate him straight up and hope he doesn't get Vetoed out of the nom chair. Not that the HGs know that because dude has been surprisingly tight lipped about it but still. 

Bayleigh for HoH! I want some retaliatory noms this week.

Yeah, Tyler made a smart move in not telling anyone about his power. It's the first time I've seen a houseguest keep a secret to themselves. Tyler's proven to keep secrets for longer than most people in the house.

Bayleigh for HOH, for sure. Or Rockstar, because I want to see her face when the person she throws up to be evicted comes walking back after Sam uses her power (preferably Tyler). We know the power's being used this upcoming week or next week, so there's no use pretending that it doesn't exist. 

[Growsonwalls]

JC is the closest thing we have to a floater. He doesn't really do much but go from room to room with some "crazy shit" he heard. He has no real allegiances to anyone but is low-key enough not to be a target. I expect he'll be throwing HoH for a long time to come.

[zoltana]

10 hours ago, Skycatcher said:

Yeah, you're right. No aspiring famewhore wants to be played a fool on national TV and the 'net where it's forever available for future shaming.

 

I hate my "smart"phone! (Galaxy S8)  I said "aspiring fame whore" and it typed....." S firing fame for".  Damn!  I know I speak clearly.  But still, it seems I have to retype everything. Aaarrrrgggghhhh! It's more frustrating than trying to picture Krazy Kait as a life coach.

I have to reply because I have this same phone and it always seems to rewrite every message as if it's in it's own little phone world.  It especially likes renaming my friends to something embarrassing.  It sounds silly, but it's exhausting rewriting every message.

[vb68]

A couple of things to watch for in the episode-

does Swaggy call out the Bros and Angela/Rachel in his speech, and then does Winston follow through with his oh so witty retort "Cool story, Christopher"?