rereader2 May 7, 2014 Share May 7, 2014 The creative team behind Sherlock are always busy: Here's a place to record their extra-Sherlock diversions. (Honestly, don't they know we're WAITING?) Mark Gatiss is appearing in episode six of this season of "Game of Thrones". There is a trailer: And a couple of articles: On zap2it-- 'Game of Thrones' Season 4: First look at 'Sherlock's' Mark Gatiss On BBC America's website-- WATCH: ‘Sherlock’s Mark Gatiss Makes His ‘Game Of Thrones’ Debut Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6570-moffat-gatiss-et-al-a-case-of-identity/
rereader2 May 9, 2014 Author Share May 9, 2014 I guess this is "old" news, but according to an article on the Futon Critic (via PBS press release), Mark Gatiss will be playing Stephen Gardiner in the "Masterpiece" adaptation of Wolf Hall. (I found the book unreadable, but there's no denying it made quite a splash!) 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6570-moffat-gatiss-et-al-a-case-of-identity/#findComment-67249
rereader2 July 6, 2014 Author Share July 6, 2014 I don't know how to embed this, but there's a piece of an interview with Mark Gatiss on BBC Radio 4, talking about movie detectives.. (I never saw this film, but I have the book it's based on sitting on my shelves, and it's quite good.) Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6570-moffat-gatiss-et-al-a-case-of-identity/#findComment-179252
rereader2 July 31, 2014 Author Share July 31, 2014 From the Islington Gazette: Doctor Who and Sherlock mastermind Mark Gatiss on Peter Capaldi, Britishness and the film that changed his life. (There's a little bit in here about Sherlock, but mostly it's about other things, so I put it here.) Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6570-moffat-gatiss-et-al-a-case-of-identity/#findComment-248788
rereader2 August 15, 2014 Author Share August 15, 2014 I think I'd count Michael Price (the composer of "Sherlock's" music) as part of the creative team, wouldn't you? Here's an interview he gave to HitFix; in it he touches on his work for "Sherlock" but also talks about his composing generally. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6570-moffat-gatiss-et-al-a-case-of-identity/#findComment-293201
rereader2 August 28, 2014 Author Share August 28, 2014 From RTÉ Ten: Mark Gatiss will be reprising his role on Game of Thrones in season 5. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6570-moffat-gatiss-et-al-a-case-of-identity/#findComment-329214
rereader2 December 21, 2014 Author Share December 21, 2014 According to the Mirror, Sherlock and Doctor Who writer and producer Steven Moffatt has seen his royalties quadruple over the past three years thanks to the success of the shows. (My favorite line in the article: "While Sherlock fans are waiting with baited breath for the next installment of the detective series,..." I suppose we are trying to catch a Cumberfish thusly.) Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6570-moffat-gatiss-et-al-a-case-of-identity/#findComment-669447
dusang December 22, 2014 Share December 22, 2014 That sentence makes no sense. What is happening while fans wait with baited breath? The increased payday? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6570-moffat-gatiss-et-al-a-case-of-identity/#findComment-670650
rereader2 December 22, 2014 Author Share December 22, 2014 I just enjoy the error of spelling it "baited"! (Because I'm like that. I adored the hung/hanged joke in TGG, too.) *** This interview with Gatiss is largely about Sherlock, but not entirely, so I'm putting it here. (If it needs to be moved, feel free or let me know!): Sherlock and Game of Thrones Star Mark Gatiss. (NDTV) Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6570-moffat-gatiss-et-al-a-case-of-identity/#findComment-671089
rereader2 March 17, 2015 Author Share March 17, 2015 Mark Gatiss is playing Labour's Peter Mandelson in Coalition...and based Mycroft on the same person. (Source: ITV.com) Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6570-moffat-gatiss-et-al-a-case-of-identity/#findComment-935756
rereader2 April 9, 2015 Author Share April 9, 2015 There's an interview with Mark Gatiss at The Big Issue; there's a little bit about Sherlock in it, but it's mostly about his other projects. (Also, it has some writing issues--"specialism"? DId the interviewer not know the word "specialty"?) Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6570-moffat-gatiss-et-al-a-case-of-identity/#findComment-1017339
rereader2 April 24, 2015 Author Share April 24, 2015 Mark Gatiss to lend Sherlock twist to the BBC Proms. (I think "Proms" stands for promenades or promenade concerts? It's a whole series of classical music concerts and related events, and I am totally jealous that we have nothing like it here.) I think it's extremely cool that they're doing a concert based on Sherlock Holmes! Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6570-moffat-gatiss-et-al-a-case-of-identity/#findComment-1073185
rereader2 May 3, 2015 Author Share May 3, 2015 Mark Gatiss just never stops, does he: Mark Gatiss: ‘Doctor Who is my first love, my last, my everything’. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6570-moffat-gatiss-et-al-a-case-of-identity/#findComment-1102672
rereader2 February 29, 2016 Author Share February 29, 2016 Mark Gatiss has picked up an Olivier Award nomination for Best Actor in a Supporting Role for his roll in Three Days In The Country. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6570-moffat-gatiss-et-al-a-case-of-identity/#findComment-2008111
zxy556575 January 16, 2017 Share January 16, 2017 Gatiss' recent poetry dust-up with critics has reassured me that he remains as pompous and thin-skinned as ever, He also emailed one blogger who was dismissive about said poem that there was a typo in the article. Good use of his time, I'm sure. Gatiss being a dickwad makes it hard for me to enjoy his acting, which in truth has been impeccable. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6570-moffat-gatiss-et-al-a-case-of-identity/#findComment-2908868
Winter Rose January 17, 2017 Share January 17, 2017 Interview with Moffat. Not sure it'll make the episode any better or worse for anyone although what he says about Molly... smh. Sherlock showrunner explains that intense (and conclusive?) finale 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6570-moffat-gatiss-et-al-a-case-of-identity/#findComment-2909370
Mom x 3 January 17, 2017 Share January 17, 2017 Blech. She gets over it? What a load of crap. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6570-moffat-gatiss-et-al-a-case-of-identity/#findComment-2909471
ForeverAlone January 17, 2017 Share January 17, 2017 (edited) Yeah, his comments about Molly really rankled me. If he was serious in what he said, it shows he was pretty clueless about Molly as a character and didn't really care about developing her deeper or have a realistic response. If his response was sarcastic, it comes across like a "f*ck you" to the fans who would dare ask about any emotional fallout for Molly. I have been aware of the sexism charges lobbed against Moffat in the past for his writing, but I am not a Doctor Who fan, so this was one of the first times it REALLY struck me about his Sherlock writing. Edited January 17, 2017 by ForeverAlone 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6570-moffat-gatiss-et-al-a-case-of-identity/#findComment-2910387
benteen January 17, 2017 Share January 17, 2017 Yeah, I think his comments on Molly pretty much confirm the sexism thing. Based on Moffat's words, treated like garbage but that's okay and she's okay with it. It's Sherlock's manpain that is vital to that scene. Reading more of that interview, I think Moffat needs to concentrate less on political analysis than on trying to remember he was actually a good writer at one point. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6570-moffat-gatiss-et-al-a-case-of-identity/#findComment-2910415
truther January 17, 2017 Share January 17, 2017 1 hour ago, ForeverAlone said: I am not a Doctor Who fan, so this was one of the first times it REALLY struck me about his Sherlock writing. I'm a longtime Doctor Who fan who only casually watches Sherlock, so it astonishes me how the complaints about the two shows are nearly identical. Everything people have been saying about Moffat's Doctor Who -- massive plot holes, incoherent storylines, deus ex machina left and right, characters that never die and who live in a consequence-free world -- seems to apply here as well. I thought the "I love you" scene with Molly was powerful and really well done. Sadly, I'm also not surprised that there was no follow up, and that she apparently just gets over it and moves on like nothing ever happened. That's SOP for this creative team. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6570-moffat-gatiss-et-al-a-case-of-identity/#findComment-2910688
festivus January 18, 2017 Share January 18, 2017 On 1/16/2017 at 8:08 PM, Winter Rose said: Interview with Moffat. Not sure it'll make the episode any better or worse for anyone although what he says about Molly... smh. Sherlock showrunner explains that intense (and conclusive?) finale I don't usually read anything that creators have to say about their shows because I like to make my own interpretation of what I've seen. I did read this though and damn, son. How hard would it have been to say that we didn't include another scene with Molly and showed her seemingly happy at the end because we would like the viewer to make up their own mind about what happened? I mean there are people that would still be mad about an answer like that but he would not have been dismissing Molly's character like he did. I saw the actress's twitter stating that she did not agree with his answer. Yeah, I don't either. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6570-moffat-gatiss-et-al-a-case-of-identity/#findComment-2913806
rereader2 January 19, 2017 Author Share January 19, 2017 Well, whatever Moffat had in mind, what we saw on the screen was Sherlock very obviously realizing, as he repeated that "I love you" to Molly that, in fact, he was telling the truth--he DOES love Molly. Not romantic love, but love nonetheless. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6570-moffat-gatiss-et-al-a-case-of-identity/#findComment-2916026
festivus January 19, 2017 Share January 19, 2017 11 hours ago, rereader2 said: Well, whatever Moffat had in mind, what we saw on the screen was Sherlock very obviously realizing, as he repeated that "I love you" to Molly that, in fact, he was telling the truth--he DOES love Molly. Not romantic love, but love nonetheless. Yep. In my mind there was a conversation with the newly more human Sherlock explaining to Molly why he had to do that and how horrible it was for him. Then she can know that it wasn't just him playing games with her, that he does love her in his own way and she can tell him how it made her feel and then she can move on. (Which I totally think she did) Molly's character deserves better than oh she just had a drink and a shag and then she's all better. I've never paid much attention to what Moffat has to say before and while I'm not sure if I think he hates women, I think for sure that he doesn't understand them. I was looking for a quote I saw last night (can't find it) where he said something like women watch Sherlock because they want to fix him. Yeah, no. I should probably stop looking at his interviews because it is starting to piss me off. This is why I don't usually read stuff from the creators of shows. Oddly the "go read a children's book" from Gatiss doesn't really bother me. I can imagine the kind of shit he's heard from people and he's just fed up. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6570-moffat-gatiss-et-al-a-case-of-identity/#findComment-2916961
jelaine January 20, 2017 Share January 20, 2017 20 hours ago, festivus said: I've never paid much attention to what Moffat has to say before and while I'm not sure if I think he hates women, I think for sure that he doesn't understand them. I wondered if he's married and if he is, how he manages to stay married. And, yeah, I don't really care enough to look it up. He's so completely clueless. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6570-moffat-gatiss-et-al-a-case-of-identity/#findComment-2919310
orza January 20, 2017 Share January 20, 2017 His wife is Sue Vertue. She's a producer of the show. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6570-moffat-gatiss-et-al-a-case-of-identity/#findComment-2919352
jelaine January 20, 2017 Share January 20, 2017 That's... kind of terrifying. Poor lady. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6570-moffat-gatiss-et-al-a-case-of-identity/#findComment-2919588
orza January 20, 2017 Share January 20, 2017 The writers are telling a story. Weak, whiny people like Molly exist in real life, as do people who are real tools. It's legitimate to show them. I don't assume anything writers put in the show necessarily represents their attitudes and actions in their personal lives. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6570-moffat-gatiss-et-al-a-case-of-identity/#findComment-2919804
SusanSunflower January 20, 2017 Share January 20, 2017 (edited) people seem to be reacting to what Moffat said in an interview .... not about interpretation of his opinions based on his characters "as written" (and subjectively interpreted) ... as can be seen, some viewers/shipper believe that Sherlock "really meant it" and were confused by the next scene of them together ... others not so much ... one of the problems with game-playing writing is that viewers are left grasping at straws as to "what really happened" Edited January 20, 2017 by SusanSunflower 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6570-moffat-gatiss-et-al-a-case-of-identity/#findComment-2919818
Bethorz January 21, 2017 Share January 21, 2017 (edited) 14 hours ago, jelaine said: That's... kind of terrifying. Poor lady. Sue is awesome. Here's Moffat talking about her role working on Sherlock at the finale screening last week. Quote “If we never come back and we never do another panel on the show, which is improbable, there is one thing I would like to say and that is, and it’s not said enough and it sort of goes by unnoticed, is that the boss of Sherlock, the No. 1 person sitting in front of you right now is not me or Mark, it’s the person to whom I’m married. It is absolutely true she is the person who runs all of Sherlock. She’s the person who either kicks us up the arse or restrains us depending on whether we’re being insane or lethargic. It has been her project from the very beginning. She’s the general, the chief executive officer, the absolute ultimate boss of this show. If you love Sherlock, the person you have to thank the most isn’t Benedict, Martin or Mark or me. It’s my wife Sue Vertue.” Course, since so many people hate the show now, that could be considered passing the blame, but I don't think that's how he meant it :) Edited January 21, 2017 by Bethorz Found quote I was looking for Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6570-moffat-gatiss-et-al-a-case-of-identity/#findComment-2921443
IWantCandy71 January 25, 2017 Share January 25, 2017 (edited) On 1/16/2017 at 4:53 PM, Lord Donia said: Gatiss' recent poetry dust-up with critics has reassured me that he remains as pompous and thin-skinned as ever, He also emailed one blogger who was dismissive about said poem that there was a typo in the article. Good use of his time, I'm sure. Gatiss being a dickwad makes it hard for me to enjoy his acting, which in truth has been impeccable. I for real wanted to cry when I first read and heard about Gatiss's comments a couple of years ago about "go read a children's book" if you couldn't understand the plot of Sherlock. No self awareness at all that he or Moffat could be at fault, or were flawed in their storytelling in any way. So, so sad. I liked him up until that point. I still like Mycroft, because I have always loved Mycroft, in any version, even the worst written ones(it's hard at this point to imagine worse written versions, but they are out there-though the ones I am referring to, most people here probably haven't seen). Mycroft is the best character in this universe-but that may be because both in canon, and in most versions, he remains the most mysterious. It's not because he's only in a few stories-it's just the nature of the character. Too bad Gatiss had to open his mouth once too often and kinda ruin his version for me. I guess Rhys Ifans gets the crown as the best Mycroft, for now. Edited January 25, 2017 by IWantCandy71 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6570-moffat-gatiss-et-al-a-case-of-identity/#findComment-2931719
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