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GH History Lessons: Because History is Always Repeating Itself

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Harmony233

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was just thinking about the susan moore muurder compared to AJ's murder.Obviously there are a few differnces like Heather and scott being innocent for once lol.Its interesting to me that scott tells Heather to hide evidence so that she wouldn't be arrested.He was telling her stuff like he didn't want her to be dragged down with him and to stop coming up with these lies to try to get him out of jail.Compare that to carson sonny didn't seem to care that he was dragging Carly down with him or that she could get in major trouble by helping him.

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She was his friend. She was his friend! She drugged him and dumped alcohol all over him to get him to leave town not because she was afraid of his drinking... she knew very well how hard he was workin

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Michael is so mean not to forgive Sonny for all of this.

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"Goaded him."  No.  Classic excuse, but...no.  Sonny chooses to get angry.  It is not the women's fault.   The mothers were at fault for not taking the kids out of the room.  Again, no.  It's Sonny'

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Question - once Bobbie knew the score about Carly being her daughter and Michael being AJ's, did she ever try to advocate on behalf of the Quartermaines?

IIRC, Bobbie has never called Carly on her shit. So I dont think this characterization can be blamed on Ron.

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ulkis

Question - once Bobbie knew the score about Carly being her daughter and Michael being AJ's, did she ever try to advocate on behalf of the Quartermaines?

 

I think she did, way back. I dimly recall her telling her to get along with AJ for Michael's sake, but I don't remember.

 

Bobbie called Carly out on plenty of her crap in the early days, although she probably let her slide too easily. But really, what can Bobbie do? I don't think "I will never speak to you again" is a threat that would work on Carly.

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Harmony233

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I think she did, way back. I dimly recall her telling her to get along with AJ for Michael's sake, but I don't remember.

 

Bobbie called Carly out on plenty of her crap in the early days, although she probably let her slide too easily. But really, what can Bobbie do? I don't think "I will never speak to you again" is a threat that would work on Carly.

I guess you got a point there but look at how many times Lee lectured scotty on his choices.He really never did any good either lol.

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Bobbie got a little frosty with Carly some years back - maybe it was right after Tony died, I can't recall. It came up and she was pissed, and Carly had to own up to it. Oh, no, maybe it was the Jennifer Bransford period - I think when Reese was outed as the 'real Carly' (ugh, that was their last-ditch effort with her) and this brought up Carly's past to Bobbie again. And Carly did put on the brakes for her mother.

 

I think it's the least Bobbie could do now. Sit her down and say, 'I love you but you have done a horrible thing, and it all started with what you did to A.J. all those years ago. Whether you want to admit it or not, it never should have happened and it is the reason you are here today.'

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TeeVee329

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And yeah, that whole divorce papers shit was McTavish. Cut to Mac sitting on the bench thinking a lot, because Mac was supposed to be Laura's new man!

 

Say WHAAAAAA...they wanted to pair Mac and Laura?  Because it worked so well for Felicia and Luke?

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ulkis

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ah, gotchya. 

 

Say WHAAAAAA...they wanted to pair Mac and Laura?  Because it worked so well for Felicia and Luke?

 

 

I think they BRIEFLY flirted with that - I think there may have been a kiss, but I don't think anything ever came of it. I am sitting here struggling to remember so I think it's safe to say it really was a whole bunch of nothing.

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I think there may have been an awkward kiss, and maybe a date or two. That was about it. But they really pushed it during that whole divorce drama. Let's keep cutting back to Mac, Mac is a part of this, just like Felicia! I couldn't believe it. Mac's in the sappy L&L divorce montage.

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TeeVee329

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I'm trying to picture Mac with Laura and...I can't.  Like, my brain won't let me. 

 

I guess I remember Laura being wooed by Scotty after the L&L divorce.

 

But poor Mac, once he and Felicia got divorced, he didn't really have another love interest (save the periodic teases with Alexis) until...Felicia again.

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Oh, that happened too. And it was lousy. I've done my rant about Grumpy Scott and the women who enable his behavior before ("Ohhh, Scawwwtttt") so I won't again. I thought Laura and Scott had some chemistry at the very tail end of the Guza run in 2000, when they first brought him back over from PC, but when Jill and Megan took over he became Lockjaw McGrumplefuck and stayed that way. "Ahhhh, Spencer, jinkies! Laura, stay away from 'im!" Shut up, Scott. And that was when they started pushing him back at Bobbie again too, even though Scott was openly contemptuous of her brother and had zero interest in making peace. Yet Bobbie would still groom his back fur.

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TeeVee329

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Yeah, it's all vaguely coming back to me now.  Laura was maybe with Scotty (wasn't there some goofy shit with them in Hollywood or something?), but then ENDGAME brought her and Luke back together.  And ENDGAME also pushed Scotty back with Bobbie, who I guess had already been dumped by Roy.

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Oh, Roy had long since dumped Bobbie at that point and was with Melissa Bedford. The minute JFP got Jensen Buchanan aboard she and Megan started pushing hard on the Roy DiLucca & Melissa Show. Roy and Melissa, in hostage situations, trying to talk down angry drug addicts at the hospital, etc. She was going to have Bobbie go nuts over Melissa and get shipped off to Ferncliff; Tony Geary put a stop to that. After that all they gave JZ and Kin were those weird scenes at the weird exercise gym set, where they would clumsily try to chemistry test lots of random characters (including Scott and Alexis, that was gross).

 

And yeah, I think maybe Jill did have Laura and Scott wander some Hollywood backlot or something. It was another really forced bit with them. I thought it was so bizarre Laura was all into this all of a sudden with him. Genie never played it as terribly enthused - more like she was being polite to an old friend. Even last year it was pathetic.

 

IIRC, Luke and Laura did not officially get back together until the following winter. They raced them through this goofy story with Sally Struthers guest starring as Jennifer Smith, it was such a heap of chucklefuck nonsense and so silly. But that was the catalyst for their two-second reunion, after everything Guza and Riche put them through! I wanted them back together but I was pissed, it was so lightweight and so dishonest. They didn't discuss Nikolas or anything.

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Yeah, it's all vaguely coming back to me now.  Laura was maybe with Scotty (wasn't there some goofy shit with them in Hollywood or something?), but then ENDGAME brought her and Luke back together.  And ENDGAME also pushed Scotty back with Bobbie, who I guess had already been dumped by Roy.

 

To be fair, the Hollywood trip was a nod back to their honeymoon in 1979, which was in Hollywood. 

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To be fair, the Hollywood trip was a nod back to their honeymoon in 1979, which was in Hollywood. 

 

Yeah, but I mean, every time Scott went after Laura again it got brought up over and over. We know! You went to Hollywood! You were young and in love! For them to keep trying to harp on it, for Scott to keep invoking it is pathetic to me given the massive events following that experience which changed Laura's whole life. Like, I can't compete with the love affair that changed your life and gave you your children and made you a woman, but hey, remember when we went to Hollywood and put on funny costumes?

 

I remember tuning in one day during that Mac and Alexis purgatory. I said aloud, "you've gotta be kidding me."

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They raced them through this goofy story with Sally Struthers guest starring as Jennifer Smith, it was such a heap of chucklefuck nonsense and so silly. 

 

 

I will never forget being on the school bus when I was 13, and hearing a radio report (a TV gossip sort of segment) that SS was going to be on the show, and the person doing the report joked that she was going to play the hospital. Everyone on air started laughing, and they couldn't finish the report after that. 

 

Again, I was 13, but even now I still find it sort of funny. Mean, but funny. 

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ulkis

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He was busy raising all the kids everybody else was having! 

 

Also being busy charisma-free and having mediocre acting talent! :runs:

 

Did Garin Wolf try to push Mac & Alexis together one more time in between Guza and Ron?

 

 

I think . . . so? mostly he was too busy giving Alexis hot flashes.

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Guza would NOT let that pairing go. I wonder what got him to stop trying to make them happen.

 

I think the reason why it went on so long is because Guza gave half-hearted lip service to trying it out, and then forgot to finish out his try. And so 6 months later he was like "oh yeah I was gonna try to pair those two extras together" and gave it another scene. And so on and so on. If he had just done something even remotely substantial with them they probably would have ended that all in two months. Actually to answer UYI's I think Garin definitely DID try to give it one more go. I think they invited Mac to thanksgiving again and I remember thinking "really? They first toyed with Mac and Alexis when Dante and Lulu first met and now they're friggin engaged and Mac and Alexis are still in the same damn spot, give it the frig up."

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I thought the first Mac/Alexis tease was cute enough, but it became this really bizarre Scorpio-Jones/Davis family holiday tradition, the girls scheming to get them together, and that was stupid.  I remember Sam went to visit Robin in the hospital (I forget why she was there, something Lisa-related, I think) just to see if "the plan' was still on.  Lame.

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I'd pay money to know what the real deal was with that whole phantom woman-beater story Garin Wolf originally had planned. I know there were rumors that Jason and his brain tumor were actually behind it, killing women, but I will never believe they'd do that to St. Jasus back then, it'd be like they filmed my dreams.

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It's funny to me because Scotty and Laura's honeymoon is one of my very first memories of GH.  That and an episode where Laura was having a nightmare or vision of David Hamilton.

 

I was so young watching it, and probably only half paying attention at first, that I came to confuse that honeymoon with Luke and Laura's wedding and had it in my head, for more than a decade, that it was Luke and Laura on that Hollywood honeymoon.  Memory can play tricks on you sometimes.

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Crazily, I don't think so.

 

I was so disappointed that she didn't get nailed for double-perjuring herself during Michael's trial. We should have at least gotten to see her in an orange jumpsuit picking up trash on the side of the road.

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TeeVee329

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Ugh, she was so annoying during that storyline.  Remember how she was all super nervous about lying on the witness stand, like she doesn't list "professional liar" on her taxes?  And then she waltzed into court cool as a cucumber and paraded that adorably chubby Joss baby around and was super proud of herself.

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When did Scott fleece the town and then leave a video explaining what he did?

 

2004, Port Charles Hotel fire.

 

He may have just fleeced the Quartermaines or Luke or something, actually, I can't recall all the details, but he was under investigation by the PCPD and Internal Affairs for wrongdoing as well. So he fled. He left Luke a "haha Spencer!" tape.

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thanks.

 

It's weird, I feel like Scott was mostly gone during from 2000-10, but I guess not? He seems to pop up a lot.

 

He was around from 2000 to, I dunno, 2004? Loitering around grumbling about Luke, then I think he was DA, and doing more loitering around grumbling about Luke, Sonny and Jason and being corrupt because the police are evil and Sonny and Jason are just like the 9/11 firefighters (actual scene). Then they wrote him out with the hotel fire. IIRC he snuck in as a firefighter, stole the Quartermaines' treasure or something - I think it was going to be auctioned off? - and left his deuces tape.

 

Inexplicably, when I had started watching much less, he returned and AFAIK faced little or no charges and became DA again? I think? And then l think he was there from 2007 to late '08, when he ran off after abducting Laura and then stalking her to Paris. Pretty sure he wasn't charged that time either! Ridiculous. And now he is DA once more. I love Kin Shriner, I have loved Scott in the past but his role is just so stupid these days.

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Harmony233

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thanks.

 

It's weird, I feel like Scott was mostly gone during from 2000-10, but I guess not? He seems to pop up a lot.

you didn't miss much.He was just there to make trouble for luke and oh and sometimes his kids died.At least when GM shoved him under a bus he got to do more than obessess over luke and laura.

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ulkis

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Wasn't she a dayplayer who they got some feedback on and then decided to make happen, when the actress was clearly not suited for it? Part of me used to suspect they settled for that when they gave up on the chemistry tests with the Michaels and Lexi Ainsworth's Kristina.

I didn't realize they killed her offscreen. Hilarious, after all that push.

 

 

I dunno about the first part, but Abby came on in late 2010 and by that time they were already wiffle-waffling about Ethan and Kristina for a while.

 

Yeah, Michael was talking on the phone and he was like "Abby! You're breaking up!" And then he flew to Chicago (where she was) and found out she was dead. Oh and when they got to the hospital and asked where Abby was, the woman on the floor told them the number of the room of where to find her without telling them it was the fucking morgue. it was all so ridiculous.

 

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I dunno about the first part, but Abby came on in late 2010 and by that time they were already wiffle-waffling about Ethan and Kristina for a while.

Yeah, Michael was talking on the phone and he was like "Abby! You're breaking up!" And then he flew to Chicago (where she was) and found out she was dead. Oh and when they got to the hospital and asked where Abby was, the woman on the floor told them the number of the room of where to find her without telling them it was the fucking morgue. it was all so ridiculous.

And then Sam told Michael that Franco raped her. It was a great trip to Chicago!

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Ugh, Abby. With her ultra-soothing voice and gentle way with damaged young men.

 

Her death was hilarious. Out of the blue and ludicrous. Which doesn't mean I didn't welcome it.

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