Show Wishlist: What We'd Like To See

[Joe Hellandback]

On ‎09‎/‎12‎/‎2018 at 1:41 AM, dttruman said:

Did SVU already do an episode like this concerning the scenario part of the aftermath of a rape? Or would this give them an idea for an episode?

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/weinsteins-lawyers-evidence-undermines-rape-charge-195248044.html

 

Interesting and especially interesting to see the comments underneath. It looks like Harvey might get off after all, through weak allegations or malpractice by over zealous detectives in this most high profile (and career making) of cases. But of course on SVU MH will nail him to the wall just as they did with Michael Jackson who was almost certainly innocent too. I wonder how many people the SVU would convict if they had the money to hire private detectives to investigate the accusers. 

Edited December 10, 2018 by Joe Hellandback

[Joe Hellandback]

Based on Mea Culpa;

1. Defence solicitor; "Lt Benson, do you believe the accuser?"

Benson; "Yes, why would a woman put herself through the pain the criminal justice system if she wasn't telling the truth?"

DS; "So you've never had false accusers do that before?"

B. "Oh yes, loads of times"

DS. "And why did they do it?"

B. "Spite, embarrassment, sometimes they're just confused"

DS. "So what makes you think this is different?"

B; "Huh?"

 

2. DS; "Miss, you have told the court that you don't actually remember what happened that night?"

Accuser; "No"

DS; "But my client does remember and he says it was consensual. Why should we believe someone who doesn't remember over someone who does?"

Accuser; "I don't know"

 

3. Stone; "Mr Accused, how do you account that the blood test has revealed that the accuser was too drunk to consent, how do you account for that?"

Accused; "The alcohol she had drunk didn't hit her until after we had finished having sex or she continued drinking after I had left"

Stone; "Huh?"

 

4. Prosecutor; "Stone's friend, Lt Benson in her testimony states you agreed to commit perjury, is that true?"

Stone's friend; "Yes, she persuaded me to do so in an entrapment malpractice, I had no intention of doing so until she forced me. She then used that as an excuse to arrest me"

Prosecutor; "Ah.... but you then admitted raping the accuser?"

Stone's friend; "No, I said I had consensual sex with her which is what happened, the accuser has never once spoken of me raping her at all"

Prosecutor; "Huh? Why did you not come forward with this information before?"

Stone's friend; "I was embarrassed for both of us, we were both young and drunk and she'd told me earlier that she was married and cheating on her husband. Besides, I married her friend and it would make things awkward between us" 

Prosecutor; "Ummm… in your testimony you state that you and Mr Stone both referred to the accuser as a 'Ralgex', what did you mean by that?"

Stone's friend; "It's a term for a sports groupie"

Prosecutor; "But why Ralgex?"

"Stone's friend; "It's a can of muscle therapy spray often passed around the locker room" 

 

5. DS; "Lt Benson, what is your relationship with Mr Stone?"

B. "I'm the head of the SVU and he's the specialist prosecutor for sex crimes"

DS; "So you're close?"

B. "Yes"

DS; "Go drinking and socialize with one another?"

B. "Yes"

DS; "He's your friend"

B. "Yes"

DS. "So you didn't think to recuse yourself from the investigation when an allegation was made against him"

B. "No, I knew I had to help him out"

DS; "Because he's your friend?"

B. "Yes"

DS. "And you desperately wanted someone else to be guilty?"

B. "Pretty much"

DS. "So you took it upon yourself to entrap my client?"

B. "Uhhhhhh…?"

DS; "And in fact the accuser did not wish to go ahead with the allegation, repeatedly changed her story and denied anything had happened but you kept pressuring her until she said what you wanted to hear?"

B. "What sex crimes are YOU guilty off?"

DS; "What?"

B. "Only someone who is a rapist himself would ask these things, you're under arrest!"

Judge; "Bailiff, release the accused, dismiss the jury and get me some thorazine for Lt Benson before she arrests all of New York" 

Edited December 13, 2018 by Joe Hellandback

[dttruman]

This happened in the month of October and over in Utah. I wonder if they could come up with an episode with this premise and present it during season 20 or if they would have to wait until season 21? I am sure the setting would be Hudson University.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-slain-utah-track-athlete-lauren-mccluskey-repeatedly-called-university-salt-lake-city-police-report-harasser-225701857.html

Edited December 27, 2018 by dttruman

[Joe Hellandback]

23 hours ago, dttruman said:

This happened in the month of October and over in Utah. I wonder if they could come up with an episode with this premise and present it during season 20 or if they would have to wait until season 21? I am sure the setting would be Hudson University.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-slain-utah-track-athlete-lauren-mccluskey-repeatedly-called-university-salt-lake-city-police-report-harasser-225701857.html

I hope not, I'm sick of people saying that police should have done this or that when they lack a crystal ball. 

[dttruman]

6 hours ago, Joe Hellandback said:

I hope not, I'm sick of people saying that police should have done this or that when they lack a crystal ball. 

I wasn't looking at it that way, I was looking at it from a Hargitay prospective. This would give the Benson character a reason to go off again on the Hudson U. campus police, the city police and whomever else she wanted to talk down to. This would be a good vehicle for Benson to run off a few of her "Holier Than Thou" speeches and so forth. That's why I was wondering how fast they could put together an episode.

Edited December 28, 2018 by dttruman

[callie lee 29]

So mercies please, but I haven't seen svu in many, many, many seasons, but watching the reruns on today with Baby Stone and then flipping between the mothership made me think of a crossover that is come back for... Baby Stone vs. Paul Robinette. That had MEGA possibility.

[Xeliou66]

15 hours ago, callie lee 29 said:

So mercies please, but I haven't seen svu in many, many, many seasons, but watching the reruns on today with Baby Stone and then flipping between the mothership made me think of a crossover that is come back for... Baby Stone vs. Paul Robinette. That had MEGA possibility.

Robinette did face off against Peter Stone in an episode of Chicago Justice, which was really cool to see, although I felt like they didn’t explore their connection enough, probably because a lot of fans of the Chicago franchise didn’t know Robinette or Ben Stone. I would like to see Robinette make an appearance on SVU.

[callie lee 29]

2 hours ago, Xeliou66 said:

Robinette did face off against Peter Stone in an episode of Chicago Justice, which was really cool to see, although I felt like they didn’t explore their connection enough, probably because a lot of fans of the Chicago franchise didn’t know Robinette or Ben Stone. I would like to see Robinette make an appearance on SVU.

Really?? Okay, I may have to check this out. I don't think I've seen a Chicago anything so it may take me awhile. 

[Xeliou66]

44 minutes ago, callie lee 29 said:

Really?? Okay, I may have to check this out. I don't think I've seen a Chicago anything so it may take me awhile. 

Yeah in episode 2 of Chicago Justice, Robinette was the defense attorney. Him and Peter talked some about their past connection but it wasn’t explored much.

[Joe Hellandback]

Forgive me if I can't remember the titles. 

1. Dean Cain as the rapist surgeon, I'd love to see his appeal succeed and him out on the street again, he was one of the most formidable opponents the SVU ever had.

2. The ep with Merritt Rook, I know Robin Williams is sadly gone but maybe he could come back as another actor with plastic surgery? Again a worthwhile opponent. 

3. Revisit the very first case of the series, 20 years later surely the suspect would have been released by now. That would be a good final ep for the series.

4. The girl who had an incestuous affair with her father, released and trying to reclaim their baby she had taken away from her. 

[Joe Hellandback]

This actually reminds me of an old ep (anyone enlighten me on which one?) but surely 'ripped from the headlines'?

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8122295/woman-coma-gives-birth-sexual-assault-phoenix/

I always liked the scene where the villain is on the stand and with tears in his eyes tells the parents he's a parent himself and understands how they feel but that 'Your wonderful daughter died years ago', the kind of great writing that is sadly lacking in current SVU.   

I always liked the ending to that ep where the distraught mother of the victim comes to Benson and tells her the billionaire 'father' of her grandchild is now suing for custody so he can use the baby's stem cells to cure his terminal illnesses, I would have like a scene where Cabot working for free negotiates the grandparents regular access to their grandchild and custody once the father dies. But the billionaire's adult daughter also demands access once her father dies because she loves her new sibling no matter what.  

[illdoc]

I think you may have confused/merged two episodes (one is from original L&O & one from CI, I think). There was the "woman in coma is raped/became pregnant (but turns out rapist was paid by coma woman's mother because she wanted a grandchild)" and there was a "Anna Nicole Smith" type one, where baby's alleged father was a billionaire (now deceased & cremated) and "Anna" wanted some "biopsy sample" (something left over from a biopsy that the hospital still had) for a DNA test to prove paternity (both "Anna" and her adult son were killed early in the episode, which is why the police were investigating). ETA: Anna one was Criminal Intent: Bombshell. 

ETA: Actually, you were right: SVU episode Waste. Summary from IMDB: The SVU team is put on the case of a woman who has been in a coma for 14 months and is found to be 7 weeks pregnant. After going though many suspects, they focus on the patient's doctor. They discover that he is impregnating comatose female patients with a rich donor's sperm in order to get embryonic stem cells that are biologically compatible. The problem for the ADA is that laws are not on her side in prosecuting such crimes.

Edited January 5, 2019 by illdoc
episode titles

[Joe Hellandback]

13 hours ago, illdoc said:

I think you may have confused/merged two episodes (one is from original L&O & one from CI, I think). There was the "woman in coma is raped/became pregnant (but turns out rapist was paid by coma woman's mother because she wanted a grandchild)" and there was a "Anna Nicole Smith" type one, where baby's alleged father was a billionaire (now deceased & cremated) and "Anna" wanted some "biopsy sample" (something left over from a biopsy that the hospital still had) for a DNA test to prove paternity (both "Anna" and her adult son were killed early in the episode, which is why the police were investigating). ETA: Anna one was Criminal Intent: Bombshell. 

ETA: Actually, you were right: SVU episode Waste. Summary from IMDB: The SVU team is put on the case of a woman who has been in a coma for 14 months and is found to be 7 weeks pregnant. After going though many suspects, they focus on the patient's doctor. They discover that he is impregnating comatose female patients with a rich donor's sperm in order to get embryonic stem cells that are biologically compatible. The problem for the ADA is that laws are not on her side in prosecuting such crimes.

Yep, that's the one, really good, wish we had more like them. 

[dttruman]

16 hours ago, illdoc said:

I think you may have confused/merged two episodes (one is from original L&O & one from CI, I think). There was the "woman in coma is raped/became pregnant (but turns out rapist was paid by coma woman's mother because she wanted a grandchild)" and there was a "Anna Nicole Smith" type one, where baby's alleged father was a billionaire (now deceased & cremated) and "Anna" wanted some "biopsy sample" (something left over from a biopsy that the hospital still had) for a DNA test to prove paternity (both "Anna" and her adult son were killed early in the episode, which is why the police were investigating). ETA: Anna one was Criminal Intent: Bombshell. 

I remember an episode concerning the second. An ex-wife had her fertilized eggs (I think) destroyed so current wife of deceased rich husband couldn't be impregnated, so as to control his fortune (regular L&O).

[Xeliou66]

4 hours ago, dttruman said:

I remember an episode concerning the second. An ex-wife had her fertilized eggs (I think) destroyed so current wife of deceased rich husband couldn't be impregnated, so as to control his fortune (regular L&O).

That was Scrambled from the Mothership season 9.

[FanWriter97]

I've been watching a lot of Criminal Minds on Netflix and they had an episode that I found rather interesting and think would be cool if SVU did their own version of it. A serial killer is targeting men and leaves notes with stuff like "they deserved it" or "they were asking for it" and it turns out that the killer is a woman who was raped and is now out killing men who "deserve" it.

[Samantha84]

I'd like to see Chris Meloni come back for a 5-6 ep arc. Solve a case that he and Liv worked on in the past. Sad that Robin Williams is dead b/c that could have been the perfect unsolved for the used to be partners 

[Joe Hellandback]

On ‎11‎/‎01‎/‎2019 at 6:44 PM, Samantha84 said:

I'd like to see Chris Meloni come back for a 5-6 ep arc. Solve a case that he and Liv worked on in the past. Sad that Robin Williams is dead b/c that could have been the perfect unsolved for the used to be partners 

Do the old soap standby of bringing him back with plastic surgery? I'd love to see Dean Cain again, he was a worthy opponent. 

[Joe Hellandback]

1. A rapist preys on Dominatrixes, subjugating the women who normally dominate men. The SVU going into the world of S&M with some surprising revelations. 

2. A man walks into the station and claims to have been drug raped by a woman who half an hour later walks in and accuses him of the same, who should the team believe? 

3. A case is dropped when CCTV clears the accused. However when it appears to have been remotely tampered with all CCTV evidence is thrown into doubt. 

4. When a high profile case is lost at court the Federal charges are brought against the accused for violating the accuser's 'civil rights', to the delight of Benson but fury of Stone who sees this as undermining double jeopardy and bowing to public opinion.

5. When a rapist  starts preying on the groupies of serial killers the SVU enter the strange world of hybristophillia.  

[FanWriter97]

On 1/22/2019 at 6:49 AM, Joe Hellandback said:

2. A man walks into the station and claims to have been drug raped by a woman who half an hour later walks in and accuses him of the same, who should the team believe? 

We all know who Benson will believe. And we know how it will end up. The guy drugged the girl and lied to Benson. 

[Joe Hellandback]

18 hours ago, FanWriter97 said:

We all know who Benson will believe. And we know how it will end up. The guy drugged the girl and lied to Benson. 

But who would Finn believe...?

[Joe Hellandback]

1. A woman who married her rapist becomes a media sensation whilst hawking the book of her life story. However when she claims to have been raped again the SVU have to decide whether this is a publicity stunt or has her experience attracted another rapist?

2. A dark skinned African American man rapes light skinned African American women whom he considers sell outs to white society and wishes to put 'in their place'. As racial tensions rise the SVU delve into the strange world of colourism.

3. A man who runs an 'upskirting' website is arrested by the SVU but later found beaten to death after being released on bail. Was this revenge from one of his victims, a member of his website ensuring he wasn't going to rat them out or did he discover something illicit through his covert pictures?

4. A Hindu man rapes a woman whom he is convinced is the reincarnation of his past wife leading to religious turmoil amongst their community.

5. A gay drug dealer gives his customer's GHB rather than the cocaine they think they're buying and has sex with them whilst they are under the influence, giving Stone an incredibly hard case to prove in court.   

[illdoc]

3 hours ago, Joe Hellandback said:

2. A dark skinned African American man rapes light skinned African American women whom he considers sell outs to white society and wishes to put 'in their place'. As racial tensions rise the SVU delve into the strange world of colourism.

Hmmm....I wonder if that would be considered a "hate crime"? Remember: L&O Hate Crime is coming this fall!! Not kidding---"backdoor pilot" is an upcoming SVU episode, but the series has already been ordered.

[Joe Hellandback]

Scene I'd like to see;

 

1. Benson; "Arrest that ICE agent, he ripped that crying little girl out of her mother's arms"

Fin; "Yeah but we do that all the time"

Benson; "But we suspect those mothers have done something wrong"

Fin; "Yeah and ICE KNOW these women have come into the country illegally"

Benson; "Huh?"

 

2. Stone; "I don't prosecute cases to make a point"

Benson; "Then I'll find someone who will"

Stone; "No because we're not politicians and the justice system is about the law and not to be abused to enforce our views on others!"

 

3.   Carl Weathers (to MP); "Yeah, well when I was your age I was stalking through the jungle hunting an enemy we couldn't even see!"

 

4. Rollins; "Yeah, the description is pretty vague, white male, late forties"

Benson; "And you left it at THAT? You didn't ask about his hair, clothes, build, height, distinctive features or anything else?"

Rollins; "Huh?"

 

5. FBI agent; "You're under arrest"

Benson; "For what?"

FBI; "Remember what the judge said, you illegally arrested an ICE agent"

Benson; "We break the law all the time, nothing ever comes of it"

[FanWriter97]

A rash of child abduction/murders rock the community. The case becomes even more difficult when it’s revealed that all the children were with their fathers, who all had criminal backgrounds. Their fathers, however, claim that they were unfairly targeted and that the real abductors were women.  

[dttruman]

Has anyone seen this article yet, I found on Yahoo? Marcia Gay Harden getting involved now.

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/marcia-gay-harden-pitches-return-162924037.html

[Joe Hellandback]

1. A frat party (at Hudson of course) results in dozens of girls reporting being drug raped. However footage from the party reveals a sign above the punch bowl (which everyone took to be a joke) declaring GHB to be one of its' ingredients with male partygoers also reporting being raped, giving Stone an almighty challenge in court.

2.   A group of rape victims from a warzone giving evidence to the UN claim asylum to stay in New York becoming a cause celebre for their supporters. But then evidence emerges that one who claimed to have been raped is still a virgin.  

3. Footage emerges of a legendary womanising pop star having group sex with five fans. However one then claims that whilst she wanted to have sex with him the other girls raped her.

4.  A woman accuses her husband of marital rape but his defence is that they are followers of a pop psychologist who claims that all relationships require a dominant and submissive partner with each signing a contract allowing them to take turns.

5.  A prominent sports star has his career ruined by a number of underage accusers who refuse to proceed with their allegations. In an attempt to clear his name he hires private investigators to try to discredit them and starts a media campaign against them prompting Benson to overstep her authority and arrest him for harassment. 1PP order him released and his lawyers demand that Benson make a public proclamation declaring the sports star innocent in the eyes of the law. Can Stone get her out of it?

[Janie430]

So as a swan song episode for Benson.

A serial rapist/murderer is caught and imprisoned for a rape in a non-NY state, but the M.O. is similar to an NYC case.  Evidence links the rapist to the NYC case, but it is all tainted by the NYC crime lab, or by the FBI crime lab - lab experts stating soil samples and fiber matches are more certain than they are, DNA being improperly stored or collected.  The forensics are thrown out, and SVU is basically SOL.  They decide to call the victim from the other state to the stand, but she refuses.  He's already been imprisoned for her case, and she strongly opposes her testimony being used to say "he's a bad guy - we can't convict him on the basis of what he did to our NYC girl, but convict him based on what he's done to this victim). 

Benson loses it, keeps coming back after this woman to try and convince her to testify, to the point that the non-NY victim files a complaint for harassment.  Stone subpoenas the woman, which she moves to quash.  In the testimony, the victim makes a strong statement that she has to continue to believe in the system even when it doesn't work, because of cases like Emmett Till and the Scottsboro boys.  She also says that if every aspect of her life were about rape, if every ethical decision was about rape, then she'd never be anything but a victim, and that she'd lose all perspective.  You get a closing shot where Fin and Carisi and Stone look at Benson, and realize that there isn't anything in her life that wasn't about sexual assault somehow and that Benson has lost touch with the world outside sexual assault to a point where it's unhealthy.  Cue them talking to her and or One PP about her needing to transfer to a different squad or take a leave.

[Joe Hellandback]

Based on 'Plastic' S20 Ep11;

Finn; "We've got you cold on having sex with an underage girl"

Rich/white/womanising doctor "She wasn't underage. The Romeo and Juliet law!"

Finn; "Only applies if there's a 4 year age difference. She was 14, you were an 18 year old medical student"

Rich/white/womanising doctor; "I was 17, I graduated high school one year early"

Finn; "Huh?

Benson; "Okay, tell me about how your rich/white/womanising boyfriend killed this girl?"

Teenage runaway/groupie; "He didn't. I came home and found out she'd broken into our stash and overdosed on prescription drugs. I was scared and sealed her up in the basement then told him she'd run away"

Benson; "Huh?" 

[Joe Hellandback]

1.  A couple who have suffered the tragic rape and murder of their daughter discover a foundling and a huge bag of cash abandoned on their doorstep. The SVU discover a vigilante is robbing and murdering drug dealers and kidnapping their infant children who they then donate to people who have tragically lost their own. The SVU must track down the killer whilst Stone is faced with the relatives of the murdered criminals who want their kids back and the new foster parents who plan to fight them all the way, the case uncomfortably close to home for Benson. 

2.  A Banksy style artist illustrates rape scenes on the side of buildings where they have actually taken place. Is this the rapist gloating, some form of protest who just guessed correctly or the work of someone with access to the crime scene?   

3.  A prostitute who specialises in rape fantasy play begins to recognise some of the scenarios she has acted out as crimes that are now being carried out in real life. Have some of her clients got together to form their own rape gang?

[Joe Hellandback]

1.  A famous celebrity (let's call him Kay Relly) is indicted for having sex with underage girls. His defence publicly hire a load of teenage/twenty something models and actresses and challenge the SVU and the public to decide if they're underage or not and then try again when they're in a club situation and drunk. Should the SVU participate in the experiment or would it discredit future prosecutions? 

2. A millionaire political benefactor is charged with underage sex trafficking. Stone must decide to either go to trial and risk his vulnerable witnesses being torn apart on the witness stand by the defence or accept a plea bargain and be accused of trying to protect the rich and powerful. 

3. The team work the subway system targeting a rapist and meeting the strange and varied people who take the last train home. 

[CrystalBlue]

11 hours ago, Joe Hellandback said:

1.  A famous celebrity (let's call him Kay Relly) is indicted for having sex with underage girls. His defence publicly hire a load of teenage/twenty something models and actresses and challenge the SVU and the public to decide if they're underage or not and then try again when they're in a club situation and drunk. Should the SVU participate in the experiment or would it discredit future prosecutions? 

2. A millionaire political benefactor is charged with underage sex trafficking. Stone must decide to either go to trial and risk his vulnerable witnesses being torn apart on the witness stand by the defence or accept a plea bargain and be accused of trying to protect the rich and powerful. 

3. The team work the subway system targeting a rapist and meeting the strange and varied people who take the last train home. 

I like #3.  It would be nice to see more than pretty, rich white girls and their handsome, rich white rapists for a change.  You know, NYC, a city of diversity!

Kay Relly 😄

Edited February 27, 2019 by CrystalBlue

[Mikeymike801302]

I have an idea for an episode at SVU.  I actually reviewed an article on this crime and wondering why this was not made into an episode.  I guarantee it would be a number one hit.  Maye even use to bring-back Stabler.

A brothel that is for men.  It could also involve a high-placed judge, either (or both) participating or profiting from young men and older men being forced into sex with me all day and night.  Maybe one of the stars could go undercover and some other men could play their Johns so they would not have to sleep with men.  Ice T plays a pimp or has men in from out of town.  This could play great and would have a lot of people watching.

Thank you.  I think your show is great, however, one thing I am tired of seeing.  You had a fraternity one time and the girl was "air tight" - I was the President of my chapter and we won Outstanding Chapter of the Year and even if we did not, we still did a lot for charity and no way would we allow any girl to be abused like that -- just because we are white does not make us monsters -- which your show, on occasion presents.  Fin is Republican, have him act like it sometime.!

[Joe Hellandback]

Remember when they had the Michael Jackson story? Casting him as a toymaker rather than a pop star. I wonder if they'll revisit that now?

[FanWriter97]

I was watching some older SVU episodes and I was thinking of a third part to the Manhattan Vigil/Depravity Standards saga, which I am going to refer to as the Lewis Hodda Saga. Since the Lewis Hodda Saga never had a true ending, I would love to see a true ending to it. While I was watching the episodes, though, I kept thinking about what if the one officer who investigated the cases (I can’t remember his name, but he wasn’t part of the SVU Squad) was the actual perpetrator of at least some of the crimes. 

So onto my idea now, a third part to the Lewis Hodda Saga in which they try, once again, to prosecute Hodda but end up finding out that the officer committed some of the crimes and framed Hodda. 

[Joe Hellandback]

On ‎3‎/‎13‎/‎2019 at 12:02 AM, FanWriter97 said:

I was watching some older SVU episodes and I was thinking of a third part to the Manhattan Vigil/Depravity Standards saga, which I am going to refer to as the Lewis Hodda Saga. Since the Lewis Hodda Saga never had a true ending, I would love to see a true ending to it. While I was watching the episodes, though, I kept thinking about what if the one officer who investigated the cases (I can’t remember his name, but he wasn’t part of the SVU Squad) was the actual perpetrator of at least some of the crimes. 

So onto my idea now, a third part to the Lewis Hodda Saga in which they try, once again, to prosecute Hodda but end up finding out that the officer committed some of the crimes and framed Hodda. 

Remind me which one was that again?

1. The SVU discover a rape accuser has used specialist software to delete that fact that she was a fan of internet rape fantasy stories before actually being raped. Should they disclose this to the defence and how will Stone be able to counter this in court? And how many other cases must they now examine to ensure other accusers didn't do the same?

2. The lawyer of the Michael Jackson style toymaker from a previous ep (can't recall the name, someone help me out?) is indicted on other charges (money laundering, tax evasion etc) and as part of a plea bargain reveals secret payments to 2 witnesses who previously testified in the Toymaker's defence. The witnesses now change their stories and say they were abused, can Stone present them in court? I have a great idea for the ending where they come to arrest him at his mansion and he escapes using a jetsuit (Finn; "Oh gimme a BREAK!") but I doubt they'd go for it.

3. A Scout Master taking his troop to a swimming pool witnesses one boy grab the genitals of 2 others in the pool and reports him. The kid confesses to doing so but claims the other boys were bullies who were trying to drown him by holding him underwater and he was only fighting back. The boy's uncle, a officer with the NY port authority police then arrests the 'victims' for attempted murder giving Stone an almighty headache in court.

4. A young African American woman is found lynched in Central Park. As hysteria erupts the SVU aid the FBI in investigating a hate crime but when a white victim turns up dead in the same way is this a revenge killing, S&M game gone wrong, suicide or are they after a serial killer with a strangulation fetish?

5.   Footage emerges on the internet of a woman being consensually swallowed by a giant snake. Is this a fake or have they finally discovered real life vore fetishism? Meanwhile Noah's birthday wish is to see his grandmother again, putting Benson in a very awkward position. 

6. An actor who plays a homophobic character on a TV show alleges he has been raped by 2 men. Stone proceeds with a prosecution but when evidence emerges the actor may actually be gay is this still rape or a trick gone wrong?

7. A historical sex crime case fails at court but Stone manages to later convict the accused for perjury when evidence emerges that he was inaccurate about some of the details of the case. However defence solicitors then instruct their clients to refuse to testify for fear of falling into a 'perjury trap' and insisting accusers and prosecution witnesses who similarly 'misremember' should also be prosecuted.  

8.  A rapist begins preying on motor-racing groupies/pit lane girls, daring the police to pursue him and his captive victims in his high performance stolen getaway cars. Meanwhile Benson is tricked onto appearing on a TV show thinking she is going to discuss sex crime prevention but it is actually a front for racist pressure group 'Black Crime Matters' who want only to discuss African American rape figures.

9. A woman is found pinned to a tree by a crossbow bolt through each breast. As further victims occur are the SVU dealing with a fetish sniper or does someone have a grudge against the plastic surgeon who performed all their breast enhancements?

10. A woman disrupts a ceremony honouring members of the National Guard for their role in disaster relief claiming that several took advantage of the chaos to commit gang rapes. Whilst Stone battles the military authorities in terms of jurisdiction the SVU ponder how to identify suspects who operated in the dark and were all dressed identically? Or whether these were actually military impersonators?    

Edited March 17, 2019 by Joe Hellandback
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[FanWriter97]

On 3/17/2019 at 5:49 AM, Joe Hellandback said:

Remind me which one was that again?

1. The SVU discover a rape accuser has used specialist software to delete that fact that she was a fan of internet rape fantasy stories before actually being raped. Should they disclose this to the defence and how will Stone be able to counter this in court? And how many other cases must they now examine to ensure other accusers didn't do the same?

2. The lawyer of the Michael Jackson style toymaker from a previous ep (can't recall the name, someone help me out?) is indicted on other charges (money laundering, tax evasion etc) and as part of a plea bargain reveals secret payments to 2 witnesses who previously testified in the Toymaker's defence. The witnesses now change their stories and say they were abused, can Stone present them in court? I have a great idea for the ending where they come to arrest him at his mansion and he escapes using a jetsuit (Finn; "Oh gimme a BREAK!") but I doubt they'd go for it.

3. A Scout Master taking his troop to a swimming pool witnesses one boy grab the genitals of 2 others in the pool and reports him. The kid confesses to doing so but claims the other boys were bullies who were trying to drown him by holding him underwater and he was only fighting back. The boy's uncle, a officer with the NY port authority police then arrests the 'victims' for attempted murder giving Stone an almighty headache in court.

4. A young African American woman is found lynched in Central Park. As hysteria erupts the SVU aid the FBI in investigating a hate crime but when a white victim turns up dead in the same way is this a revenge killing, S&M game gone wrong, suicide or are they after a serial killer with a strangulation fetish?

5.   Footage emerges on the internet of a woman being consensually swallowed by a giant snake. Is this a fake or have they finally discovered real life vore fetishism? Meanwhile Noah's birthday wish is to see his grandmother again, putting Benson in a very awkward position. 

6. An actor who plays a homophobic character on a TV show alleges he has been raped by 2 men. Stone proceeds with a prosecution but when evidence emerges the actor may actually be gay is this still rape or a trick gone wrong?

7. A historical sex crime case fails at court but Stone manages to later convict the accused for perjury when evidence emerges that he was inaccurate about some of the details of the case. However defence solicitors then instruct their clients to refuse to testify for fear of falling into a 'perjury trap' and insisting accusers and prosecution witnesses who similarly 'misremember' should also be prosecuted.  

8.  A rapist begins preying on motor-racing groupies/pit lane girls, daring the police to pursue him and his captive victims in his high performance stolen getaway cars. Meanwhile Benson is tricked onto appearing on a TV show thinking she is going to discuss sex crime prevention but it is actually a front for racist pressure group 'Black Crime Matters' who want only to discuss African American rape figures.

9. A woman is found pinned to a tree by a crossbow bolt through each breast. As further victims occur are the SVU dealing with a fetish sniper or does someone have a grudge against the plastic surgeon who performed all their breast enhancements?

10. A woman disrupts a ceremony honouring members of the National Guard for their role in disaster relief claiming that several took advantage of the chaos to commit gang rapes. Whilst Stone battles the military authorities in terms of jurisdiction the SVU ponder how to identify suspects who operated in the dark and were all dressed identically? Or whether these were actually military impersonators?    

The episodes were Manhattan Vigil and Depravity Standard. The officer was named Lomatin or something like that, not sure if the spelling is right.

[Joe Hellandback]

12 hours ago, FanWriter97 said:

The episodes were Manhattan Vigil and Depravity Standard. The officer was named Lomatin or something like that, not sure if the spelling is right.

Great thanks. 

[wknt3]

On 3/17/2019 at 5:49 AM, Joe Hellandback said:

I have a great idea for the ending where they come to arrest him at his mansion and he escapes using a jetsuit (Finn; "Oh gimme a BREAK!") but I doubt they'd go for it.

Yeah you're about 10 years too late on that one! I definitely could see something like that in the late Baer seasons *although it's more likely they would have gone with something more like attempting to escape using a jetpack and end up dying a quick and gruesome death when it doesn't work.
 

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Meanwhile Noah's birthday wish is to see his grandmother again, putting Benson in a very awkward position. 

Why would you ever want to suggest that the fans want to hear about grandma ever again? Who hurt you?

[vast wasteland]

Liv is accused of sexual assault on Amanda.  Finn confesses he has taped their encounters.  Liv escapes a guilty verdict by whispering compassionately and using inane phrases.  After the trial, where she is exonerated (but Amanda does get to do an emotional PTSD speech), Liv is promoted to Captain.  All under her command are required to take Emotive Whispering classes.  Noah grows up to be a defense attorney, specializing in mob cases.  He never whispers.

[dttruman]

I think the writers for SVU are salivating concerning the recent events of the Jussie Smollett saga. Now you have the DA's office suddenly dropping the charges and the Mayor publicly criticizing the DA's office for the move. This would be great stuff to use for a rape case in NYC .

[Joe Hellandback]

1. Male

2. Gay

3. Native American (Michael Horse would be perfect if he's not busy with Twin Peaks)

4. Nakedly ambitious

5.  Sympathetic to rape victims but antagonistic towards Benson and her excesses (do I need to even say it?) . 

[Joe Hellandback]

1. A serial rapist, The Snipper, rapes women and takes the ultimate souvenir by cutting off one of their fingers. As terror grips New York the SVU must stop him before he has the full set (in a twist, they don't and he moves on to another city to start again, perhaps to recur in a future ep).

2.  The horseman; as a massive medieval fair is held in central park women a series of women report being carried off and raped by a knight on a charger. Largely as an excuse to see everyone in funny costumes and for Benson and Rollins to have their 'Ever thought about it?' conversation 

3. A magazine publishes a list of the 12 up and coming women in New York prompting an Incel rape gang to target them. Should the NYPD hide them in protective custody or use them as bait to lure the gang in?

4. A senior figure in the Afghan police visits New York for talks but is accused of allowing his men to rape young boys at their checkpoints. Things get more complicated when some of the accusers appear to be linked to the Taliban.

5.  A long running investigation into malpractice in the federal government uncovers several sex criminals amongst those being investigated. However when the original focus of the investigation turns out to be exonerated and the grounds for beginning in it the first place discredited the convictions are under threat due to the principle of 'fruit of the poisoned tree'.    

[dttruman]

5 hours ago, Joe Hellandback said:

1. A serial rapist, The Snipper, rapes women and takes the ultimate souvenir by cutting off one of their fingers. As terror grips New York the SVU must stop him before he has the full set (in a twist, they don't and he moves on to another city to start again, perhaps to recur in a future ep).

Should be a 2-3 part episode, otherwise they would water it down.

6 hours ago, Joe Hellandback said:

2.  The horseman; as a massive medieval fair is held in central park women a series of women report being carried off and raped by a knight on a charger. Largely as an excuse to see everyone in funny costumes and for Benson and Rollins to have their 'Ever thought about it?' conversation 

Take out the rape part and send it to TBS so it can be an episode on "Angie Tribeca" If you're a fan of the old "Police Squad", you will agree.

[dttruman]

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[dttruman]

8 hours ago, Joe Hellandback said:

1. Male

2. Gay

3. Native American (Michael Horse would be perfect if he's not busy with Twin Peaks)

4. Nakedly ambitious

5.  Sympathetic to rape victims but antagonistic towards Benson and her excesses (do I need to even say it?) . 

How do we know they are going to add another regular ADA character? Last year they said there were adding a regular shrink. They did, but they hardly used her. There were a numerous cases, where they could have used that character, but they didn't.

I heard about SVU being renewed, and also something about a character coming back and a character being recast. Will update when more info comes in

[FireGhost]

Someone smart and rational. No-nonsense but kind. Preferably in a happy relationship. No dark past, addiction issues, daddy issues, or personal drama just for drama's sake.

As a queer person, I'd love to finally see an lgbt+ main character, this is Manhattan in 2019. And I hope it's someone Black or Asian.

But in the end they should cast the most talented actor period, someone with a nuanced and subtle acting style.

Edited March 31, 2019 by FireGhost

[Xeliou66]

Someone who doesn’t have personal drama and doesn’t bring personal crap into their job as ADA, and someone who is by the book and will call out the SVU Squad/Benson on some of their crap but who isn’t an asshole. I don’t give a fuck about their race, sexuality or relationship status, that shouldn’t matter or be an issue. 

[Fellaway]

14 hours ago, dttruman said:

I heard about SVU being renewed, and also something about a character coming back and a character being recast.

Hmm, the only person I can imagine they'd recast is Noah.  Aging him up, maybe?

As to a new ADA, the only specifics that are must-haves for me are that they're an interesting character, played by an interesting actor, and they don't eat the show whole with their screentime, like they did with Stone, to the detriment of other characters (namely, Carisi.)

Of course, they might go the way of Criminal Intent and dispense with a regular ADA altogether.  There were a number of episodes this season that didn't go into the courtroom at all.  I'd be okay with that, if it became a regular thing, as I've felt the courtroom scenes have had particularly weak writing the last couple seasons.  One less regular means a savings of money, too, and this show's budget ain't what it used to be.  Maybe that's a consideration for them.

[Joe Hellandback]

16 hours ago, dttruman said:

Should be a 2-3 part episode, otherwise they would water it down.

Take out the rape part and send it to TBS so it can be an episode on "Angie Tribeca" If you're a fan of the old "Police Squad", you will agree.

I was a fan of Police Squad but I don't get the reference?