S04.E10: The Hangover

[Former Nun]

On 6/10/2017 at 5:17 AM, zenme said:

She needs to learn, and hopefully she will as she becomes older and wiser, that there is a time and place for everything, and there is also always a way to say something honestly in such way  that the other person can receive it.  For example, at Craig's surprise and celebratory dinners--those were not the times to bring up her issues with Craig and the bar, etc.

If I'm the producer and running this particular storyline, she HAS learned...she has learned what she's supposed to say and the mood she needs to create.  Would taking these "difficult" reality TV conversations privately cause anyone to watch?   If she refuses, will she remain as a cast member?

[HunterHunted]

On 6/10/2017 at 8:17 PM, sasha206 said:

I agree.  She doesn't like Kathryn.  Kathryn lunged at her son calling him a nasty mother fucker or something like that.  Why should she treat Kathryn with any reverence?

On 6/10/2017 at 10:42 PM, Former Nun said:

I agree!    I agree that Patricia doesn't have to treat Katherine kindly.   I agree that Whitney is a nasty motherfucker.

 

I think Patricia doesn't have to treat Kathryn kindly on most days, but maybe on Kathryn's son's birthday say "hello."

Whitney is an asshole and he deserves to be called out for the shit he was pulling. Thomas tells Whitney that he was going to try and make a go of it with Kathryn. Rather than having a conversation with Thomas as why he thought the two of them were a disaster or just keeping out of the Thomas and Kathryn drama, Whitney comes up with the fucked up strategy of going out to the bars and strip club with Thomas during the last parts of Kathryn's pregnancy.

[Former Nun]

35 minutes ago, HunterHunted said:

Whitney is an asshole and he deserves to be called out for the shit he was pulling.

Sadly, Whitney is (or was) one of the producers.

[HunterHunted]

5 hours ago, Former Nun said:

Sadly, Whitney is (or was) one of the producers.

He still is a producer, but he's not involved in the decision-making. I'm very worried about SC: New Orleans because he's been involved in the casting. I worry that he'll have a more active producer role on that show.

Edited June 12, 2017 by HunterHunted

[Sage47]

Did anyone see the video on Bravo's site of Kathryn doing a photo shoot with Kensie? Her blathering on about feeling like a family with Thomas again? 

I hope dumb Thomas doesn't fall for her crap...again. Yawn. Here's the thing: Kathryn doesn't have many options with men anymore. She is young and beautiful but her reputation far proceeds her. No guy from a wealthy, nice family is going to ever settle down with her since she showed her icky character, personality problems and drug addiction/lost custody on television. 

All  potential mother in laws will be like Whitney's mother and be horrified by her. So...her only shot at a fancy life for her kids now is to somehow convince Thomas to take her back and support her. Now we are seeing her efforts in that department. Suddenly sucking up to him as the "new Kathryn".  Utterly predictable but Thomas will probably fall for it. 

[Major Bigtime]

Spoiler

Thomas has a very pretty girlfriend, 

 

 there's no way he's dumb enough to go back to Kathryn. She's living in dreamworld again.

11 minutes ago, Sage47 said:

Suddenly sucking up to him as the "new Kathryn".  Utterly predictable but Thomas will probably fall for it. 

Just remember, this was filmed last year.

Edited June 12, 2017 by Major Bigtime

[Sage47]

Oh good. I hope he stays away from her insanity. 

[nexxie]

1 hour ago, Sage47 said:

Did anyone see the video on Bravo's site of Kathryn doing a photo shoot with Kensie? Her blathering on about feeling like a family with Thomas again? 

I hope dumb Thomas doesn't fall for her crap...again. Yawn. Here's the thing: Kathryn doesn't have many options with men anymore. She is young and beautiful but her reputation far proceeds her. No guy from a wealthy, nice family is going to ever settle down with her since she showed her icky character, personality problems and drug addiction/lost custody on television. 

All  potential mother in laws will be like Whitney's mother and be horrified by her. So...her only shot at a fancy life for her kids now is to somehow convince Thomas to take her back and support her. Now we are seeing her efforts in that department. Suddenly sucking up to him as the "new Kathryn".  Utterly predictable but Thomas will probably fall for it. 

Can't help feeling sad for her; she seems delusional.

[Sage47]

17 minutes ago, nexxie said:

Can't help feeling sad for her; she seems delusional.

I would feel sad for her if she was a kind, loving person who just really screwed up. Everyone has flaws and issues. But she is something else-cold and calculating underneath. Heartless even. And yes, delusional. 

[nexxie]

31 minutes ago, Sage47 said:

I would feel sad for her if she was a kind, loving person who just really screwed up. Everyone has flaws and issues. But she is something else-cold and calculating underneath. Heartless even. And yes, delusional. 

You're right - I have an overactive empathy gene and it can get me in trouble.

[slowpoked]

On 6/9/2017 at 3:11 PM, ScoobieDoobs said:

So Austen is merely a Horseteeth 2.0?  Really?  Wonder if he's sleeping all day too.  Ew.

He's no longer with the beer company he mentioned earlier during the first episode. Parted ways with them while the show was airing.

Dunno if he transferred to another beer company or he has bought into being a Bravolebrity as a full-time job.

[biakbiak]

5 hours ago, HunterHunted said:

Whitney is an asshole and he deserves to be called out for the shit he was pulling. Thomas tells Whitney that he was going to try and make a go of it with Kathryn. Rather than having a conversation with Thomas as why he thought the two of them were a disaster or just keeping out of the Thomas and Kathryn drama, Whitney comes up with the fucked up strategy of going out to the bars and strip club with Thomas during the last parts of Kathryn's pregnancy.

Thomas is a grown ass man. If he didn't want to go to bars and strip clubs than he wouldn't go to bars and strip clubs. Kathryn took it out on Whitney when she should have been taking it out on Thomas.

4 hours ago, HunterHunted said:

I'm very worried about SC: New Orleans because he's been involved in the casting. I

Well he cast this show and didn't have anything to do with casting Savannah so I have more confidence in him than whoever cast that hot mess.

[Major Bigtime]

1 hour ago, biakbiak said:

Thomas is a grown ass man. If he didn't want to go to bars and strip clubs than he wouldn't go to bars and strip clubs. Kathryn took it out on Whitney when she should have been taking it out on Thomas.

Exactly! She just went batshit crazy on whoever was convenient that weekend. Taking it out on Thomas might cost her money she'd get for whatever.

[jaybird2]

1 hour ago, biakbiak said:

Thomas is a grown ass man. If he didn't want to go to bars and strip clubs than he wouldn't go to bars and strip clubs. Kathryn took it out on Whitney when she should have been taking it out on Thomas.

Well he cast this show and didn't have anything to do with casting Savannah so I have more confidence in him than whoever cast that hot mess.

love, love, love your post re savannah!!

[Former Nun]

2 hours ago, biakbiak said:

Kathryn took it out on Whitney when she should have been taking it out on Thomas.

Sometimes one has to take it out on anyone and everyone.  

[Cheetosandchoc]

      I just have to say Katherine looks great. I really hope she gets her act together. She is still young there is hope.  I know she is disliked, just throwing this out there in case there are other Katherine sympathizes here.

[biakbiak]

2 hours ago, Former Nun said:

Sometimes one has to take it out on anyone and everyone.  

But she didn't take it out on Thomas and it was a long time after the event she was screaming about.

[Major Bigtime]

Kathryn looks great on the show, yes. But after the cameras went away the old Kathryn came back. I also hope she gets her act together, but she HAS to stay away from anyone who drinks and uses drugs if she really wants to stay sober and have partial custody of her children. I think staying high means more to her right now.

[Former Nun]

5 hours ago, Major Bigtime said:

I think staying high means more to her right now.

It's probably beyond something she can control.  We've all known families devastated by alcohol and drugs.  It's an ongoing and tragic story.

[Major Bigtime]

13 minutes ago, Former Nun said:

It's probably beyond something she can control.  We've all known families devastated by alcohol and drugs.  It's an ongoing and tragic story.

I know. Been there, done that. Walking around on eggshells, trying not to say the wrong thing that will piss them off because that gives them an excuse to get stoned or drunk.

[RedHawk]

So apparently Shep can't wait to tell his version of events at the reunion.

I don't even care if there IS a reunion this season. It would be hilarious if the producers chose not to have one and gave Shep no platform to try to defend/explain his behavior. His comments on Twitter, especially earlier in the season often sounded like "well, I had to work the story line and 'bring it' for The Show", like we're all stupid for not getting that much of it is an act or scripted bullshit, and that he's not the jerk he appears to be. Haha! Shep thought he was smart and could beat the producers and editors at the game of Reality TV, and he got bit in the ass. 

Edited June 15, 2017 by RedHawk

[slowpoked]

5 hours ago, RedHawk said:

So apparently Shep can't wait to tell his version of events at the reunion.

I don't even care if there IS a reunion this season. It would be hilarious if the producers chose not to have one and gave Shep no platform to try to defend/explain his behavior. His comments on Twitter, especially earlier in the season often sounded like "well, I had to work the story line and 'bring it' for The Show", like we're all stupid for not getting that much of it is an act or scripted bullshit, and that he's not the jerk he appears to be. Haha! Shep thought he was smart and could beat the producers and editors at the game of Reality TV, and he got bit in the ass. 

It's funny how Shep is now walking back on his comments when he was doing press pre-season, now that he's seen how the producers have slanted his story to something not favorable to him. In his pre-show press, he kept on raving about how he is so excited about this season and it should be better than Season 3 because he felt the producers manipulated and messed up that season too much. He also admitted in an interview that the love triangle he would be involved in and the mess it would result in to was his fault, he did reference to what happened in the bar, he should have stayed away, shouldn't have done what he did, etc. But now he's walking back on that and says everything has been blown out of proportion and can't wait to clear his name. 

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On 6/12/2017 at 11:50 PM, Cheetosandchoc said:

      I just have to say Katherine looks great. I really hope she gets her act together. She is still young there is hope.  I know she is disliked, just throwing this out there in case there are other Katherine sympathizes here.

I'm definitely in your boat. She was horribly treated during her first pregnancy,  told she would be a wife and taken care of. Then Thomas took a 22 year old party social girl and hid her away 2 hours out in the boondocks with no husband or any social life while he goes on some pie in the sky political campaign.  He made commercials with her friends, but not with the woman carrying his baby. He was out dating, and going to strip clubs when she was 9 months pregnant, that should give us an idea of what her life was like.

30 days of rehab is no way long enough for her to pull herself together, poor thing. She's probably being medicated, and followed by someone who is constantly reminding her to stay calm, stay calm.  She needs a handful of people, who have no hidden agenda, helping her every day for at least a year.

[Major Bigtime]

46 minutes ago, Swim mom said:

He was out dating, and going to strip clubs when she was 9 months pregnant

Do you have a source or internet link?

[biakbiak]

On Saturday, July 22, 2017 at 7:59 AM, Major Bigtime said:

have a source or internet link?

It was discussed on the show when they were on that trip Landon planned in season two, it's why Kathryn flipped out at Whitney because he invited Thomas out to the strip club and because they were together at the time Kathryn made it all Whitney's fault not Thomas.

[Major Bigtime]

I remember Kathryn going off on Whitney, wagging her finger in his face, only vaguely what she said. Thanks!