Season 8: Speculation and Spoilers Discussion

[bubble sparkly]

Damn, I was excited for a second that we might get another Jaqen / Arya scene.

[Edith]

All this trolling from D&D makes me wonder: where is Kit? He was spotted with Sophie and Gwen, so is safe to say that he is in Seville too. Could he be filming? 

[Eyes High]

1 hour ago, Edith said:

All this trolling from D&D makes me wonder: where is Kit? He was spotted with Sophie and Gwen, so is safe to say that he is in Seville too. Could he be filming? 

Possibly, but with whom? Everyone else was at the soccer game, including Weiss. There was Iain Glen, I guess.

The NK actor was at the soccer match, unlike Faye Marsay and Tom Wlaschiha, so I suspect he’s filming for real, and his presence isn’t just a PR stunt. 

An interview with Joe Dempsie was published last Sunday where he says he has two weeks left of filming to go. Seems odd that Gendry would show up at the Dragonpit but be absent from whatever’s being filmed at the KL exterior set in June, but there you have it.

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[GraceK]

https://mobile.twitter.com/sevillafc/status/994329008920825858?s=21

 

wow wow wow such a nice picture ❤️

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[Happy Harpy]

26 minutes ago, GraceK said:

https://mobile.twitter.com/sevillafc/status/994329008920825858?s=21

 

wow wow wow such a nice picture ❤️

Is that the future King and Queen, right in the middle?

(j/k. I don't want them to rule, I just want them to be.)

[anamika]

I thought Bran in KL was fishy lol! Hey, maybe SweetRobin and Sansa are getting married!

Anyways, well played D&D. They really want no leaks this season. It's a complete contrast to how open and casual they were last season with pictures like this being openly taken:

I guess the actors who are not there are busy with other commitments like filming - Daniel Portman (Pod), Dean Charles (Tommen) etc. 

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[TarotQueen]

6 hours ago, Eyes High said:

Tom Wlaschiha is there, too. What is going on?

I said :: hiss :: it's hot in here.  There must be some Jaqen in the atmosphere!

A woman finds many faces on the show pleasing, but none more so than that of a faceless man.

[WindyNights]

2 hours ago, anamika said:

I thought Bran in KL was fishy lol! Hey, maybe SweetRobin and Sansa are getting married!

Anyways, well played D&D. They really want no leaks this season. It's a complete contrast to how open and casual they were last season with pictures like this being openly taken:

I guess the actors who are not there are busy with other commitments like filming - Daniel Portman (Pod), Dean Charles (Tommen) etc. 

It's a Great Council. 

They're deciding who gets to be king since it seems that Daenerys and Cersei are dead. 

This is why Sweetrobin and Gendry are there as well as Tyrion and Sansa and Arya and Bran plus hundreds of extras

[anamika]

59 minutes ago, WindyNights said:

It's a Great Council. 

They're deciding who gets to be king since it seems that Daenerys and Cersei are dead. 

This is why Sweetrobin and Gendry are there as well as Tyrion and Sansa and Arya and Bran plus hundreds of extras

Well, we will know soon what's happening. I doubt Jaqen H'ghar and the Waif have a role in deciding who gets to be king. 

No one's seen Kit Harington there either. So that means Jon is dead as well.

Probably Arya/Gendry getting crowned King/Queen of the 7K! Or Sansa/Tyrion. Or Jaime/Brienne - I know some shippers who are convinced that Jaime/Brienne would sit on the Iron Throne at the end. Anything's possible.

[nikma]

Will D&D succed in avoiding any spoilers from S8? Now even those pictures with Cersei and Jon seem suspicious.Especially since it seems they really wanted to be seen there. They were even looking at the window lol

 

Will this be the first season ever without any spoilers, leaks or books?

The only thing we really know is that there will be battles at WF and KL, but even there we don't know who will be fighting.

[Eyes High]

A few thoughts:

1. Iain Glen wasn't spotted in Seville after all; a fan mistook Liam Cunningham for Iain. (They look nothing alike, but whatever.) Iain Glen was also absent from the soccer game, even though he went to the 2016 match when they were filming Season 7. RIP Jorah after all...?

2. I'm rethinking the decoy theory, since only four truly "unexpected" actors were there--those playing the NK, the Waif, Jaqen, and Robin--and there are plausible reasons why all four characters would be there, particularly since we know that there will be at least two scenes filmed on the Italica site. (NK isn't dead yet, the Waif and Jaqen could have a scene with Arya, Robin could be attending some gathering of lords and ladies, etc.).

3. With that said re: Robin, if one of the scenes is a gathering of lords and ladies of a Great Council type, one would expect to see either Theon or Yara as well as Edmure, and none of those actors are in Seville.

4. Kit should be in Seville, but how has he managed to escape detection thus far? Seville Thrones fandom is like Beatlemania on steroids.

5. You know who isn't in Seville? Anyone on Team Dany (other than Tyrion). No Dany, no Missandei, no Grey Worm, no Jorah, no hot Dothraki dude played by Staz Nair.

6. Can we finally put to bed the theories that Tyrion betrays Dany and the Starks and pays for it with his life, since he's hanging out with the Starks in 8x05 and/or 8x06 while Dany is MIA?

 

7 hours ago, anamika said:

Well, we will know soon what's happening. I doubt Jaqen H'ghar and the Waif have a role in deciding who gets to be king. 

No one's seen Kit Harington there either. So that means Jon is dead as well.

Probably Arya/Gendry getting crowned King/Queen of the 7K! Or Sansa/Tyrion. Or Jaime/Brienne - I know some shippers who are convinced that Jaime/Brienne would sit on the Iron Throne at the end. Anything's possible.

7. I have been saying for a while that we won't get some Harry Potter-type ending where everyone pairs off, but with the actors involved in those three pairings showing up in Seville (and with Sansa and Tyrion possibly appearing in one of the last scenes of the finale together), I may have to eat my words. Jaime surviving to the end of the show would shock me, although I suppose it's possible that NCW films his death scene and it's separate from the other scenes filmed in Italica.

8. Joe Dempsie and other cast members have promised an unexpected ending, so we could get King Gendry/Queen Arya after all. If Jaime does survive and ends up as Lord of Casterly Rock, that begs the question of where Tyrion will end up.

9. Is Rory's absence from Seville confirmation that Sandor doesn't make it?

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[anamika]

1 hour ago, Eyes High said:

 Jaime surviving to the end of the show would shock me, although I suppose it's possible that NCW films his death scene and it's separate from the other scenes filmed in Italica.

This is why I was surprised when NCW showed.  If Jaime survives and gets a happy ending with Brienne after everything he has done to the Starks /causing the WOT5K and Jon/Dany die, then that's not bittersweet. That's nihilistic. Jaime has been right by Cersei's side helping her kill people. I am pretty certain that Jaime dies.

1 hour ago, Eyes High said:

4. Kit should be in Seville, but how has he managed to escape detection thus far? Seville Thrones fandom is like Beatlemania on steroids.

Kit is is not there. No one has seen him there. There's no reason he's not hanging out with everyone else if he is there.

1 hour ago, Eyes High said:

6. Can we finally put to bed the theories that Tyrion betrays Dany and the Starks and pays for it with his life, since he's hanging out with the Starks in 8x05 and/or 8x06 while Dany is MIA?

No.

I don't think we can say or predict anything based on these actors gathered there. I still think that Tyrion will have a betrayal arc with Dany. I don't know whether he will pay for that betrayal with his life - he may live at the end. But I do think he will do something unexpected next season.

 Bran being there also allows for future visions, past visions etc.

1 hour ago, Eyes High said:

3. With that said re: Robin, if one of the scenes is a gathering of lords and ladies of a Great Council type, one would expect to see either Theon or Yara as well as Edmure, and none of those actors are in Seville.

Agree.  I would think the Greyjoys are more important than SweetRobin and they have to address the Riverlands at some point.

By the way, these guys look to be having fun right now, going to sports events and enjoying the sun. There was all this commentary about how Sophie had to cancel her Met gala appearance on Sunday and rush to Spain for filming, but these guys don't seem to be in a lot of hurry...

NCW with fans:

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[Eyes High]

12 minutes ago, anamika said:

This is why I was surprised when NCW showed.  If Jaime survives and gets a happy ending with Brienne after everything he has done to the Starks /causing the WOT5K and Jon/Dany die, then that's not bittersweet. That's nihilistic. Jaime has been right by Cersei's side helping her kill people. I am pretty certain that Jaime dies.

Me, too, and I agree with your logic, but I am starting to wonder...

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Kit is is not there. No one has seen him there. There's no reason he's not hanging out with everyone else if he is there.

 

Kit was spotted with Gwen and Sophie at the airport in London. Gwen and Sophie both made it to Seville, but he didn't...? It makes no sense.

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I still think that Tyrion will have a betrayal arc with Dany.

 

The fact that Sansa and a very much alive Tyrion have a scene together in the Dragonpit in 8x05 or 8x06 with Dany AWOL and possibly dead, by which point Cersei is already deposed, belies the idea that anything's going to come of a "Tyrion betrayal." Unless Arya kills him and takes his face, which is always possible, Tyrion's still alive and hanging out with at least one Stark; he's fine.

One weird thing about the Seville bunch is that there's no one on Team Dany there except Varys and Tyrion. 

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Agree.  I would think the Greyjoys are more important than SweetRobin and they have to address the Riverlands at some point.

 

Unless Theon and Yara both die, there's no reason for the Iron Islands to lack a representative at the Great Council (assuming that's what happens).

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By the way, these guys look to be having fun right now, going to sports events and enjoying the sun. There was all this commentary about how Sophie had to cancel her Met gala on Sunday and rush to Spain for filming, but these guys don't seem to be in a lot of hurry...

We'll have to see who sticks around for the next week and who takes off. 

[GraceK]

30 minutes ago, anamika said:

n't think we can say or predict anything based on these actors gathered there. I still think that Tyrion will have a betrayal arc with Dany. I don't know whether he will pay for that betrayal with his life - he may live at the end.

What if this Dragonpit scene is a trial of some kind? I haven’t seen that theory brought up yet . ? 

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[kcbuckeye2]

At this point, I wouldn't be surprised to get Sean Bean sightings in Seville.

[anamika]

44 minutes ago, Eyes High said:

Kit was spotted with Gwen and Sophie at the airport in London. Gwen and Sophie both made it to Seville, but he didn't...? It makes no sense.

He could have taken a flight to Belfast. According to Freefolk there was one along with flights to Seville.

44 minutes ago, Eyes High said:

The fact that Sansa and a very much alive Tyrion have a scene together in the Dragonpit in 8x05 or 8x06 with Dany AWOL and possibly dead, by which point Cersei is already deposed, belies the idea that anything's going to come of a "Tyrion betrayal." Unless Arya kills him and takes his face, which is always possible, Tyrion's still alive and hanging out with at least one Stark; he's fine.

The possible Sansa-Tyrion scene - if it's just the two of them - baffles me. What scene could these two be doing in the Dragonpit. At the end of the day the Dragonpit is significant to the Targaryens. And with both Kit and Emilia missing -  A dragonpit scene without the last dragons? Tyrion has petted dragons before.  Is he a secret Targaryen......?  I am not going there ?

I don't think we should immediately jump to 'Dany is dead' because she is is not there for dragonpit and exterior KL filming. She could be in KL giving birth. She could be flying above KL if there are fight scenes. Maybe these are small, separate scenes that involve different characters doing different things. Arya, Gendry,Waif, Jaqen, Varys trying to infiltrate the red keep. Davos smuggling them in. Tyrion, Sansa doing something in the Dragonpit. Jaime/Brienne going to the red keep to face Cersei. Bran and Sam....I don't know.  After all, these Spain locations are just the exteriors of KL city.

If Cersei is gone by episode 4, I don't see Jaime lasting beyond that. How certain are we that they are only filming episodes 5 and 6? Maybe D&D and Sapochnik help Nutter get some shots while he is busy in Belfast.

SweetRobin is a puzzle.

44 minutes ago, Eyes High said:

Unless Theon and Yara both die, there's no reason for the Iron Islands to lack a representative at the Great Council (assuming that's what happens).

I think both or one should survive. And yeah if there is a Great Council, one of them would definitely be there. The Iron Islands is too important to ignore. Plus we would see some actors - new or otherwise - representing Dorne and the Riverlands. Plus, I don't think all 3 Starks are going to be present for any such meeting. One of them at least will be up North picking up the pieces with respect to WF.

38 minutes ago, GraceK said:

What if this Dragonpit scene is a trial of some kind? I haven’t seen that theory brought up yet . ? 

Possible. But once again, the Dragonpit became relevant only after Dany came to Westeros. It holds significance for the Targaryens. Why would the Lannisters and Starks conduct their business there?

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[GraceK]

19 minutes ago, anamika said:

nce again, the Dragonpit became relevant only after Dany came to Westeros. It holds significance for the Targaryens. Why would the Lannisters and Starks conduct their business there?

Because I refuse to entertain the notion that Dany is dead ? so If this is in fact last episode stuff, it makes sense to me that any type of trial with Dany or Jon as endgame rulers would take place at the Dragonpit. And the remaining players would be there, friends and defeated foes. Just a theory, not saying it’s true.

[whateverdgaf]

 So grateful for Nik and Gwen filming together. I am preparing myself for one or both of them dying, but whatever happens I am sure there will be some quality Jaime and Brienne scenes. I would love Jaime to live (with Brienne) characters on redemption arcs always get killed off in some heroic fashion. It would be nice to see something different for once. But if not, just the fact Nik and Gwen are filming together so much makes me happy.

[anamika]

2 minutes ago, GraceK said:

Because I refuse to entertain the notion that Dany is dead ? so If this is in fact last episode stuff, it makes sense to me that any type of trial with Dany or Jon as endgame rulers would take place at the Dragonpit.

Yeah, but both Kit and Emilia are not there. If filming is going on right now, it's going on without them.

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[SimoneS]

9 minutes ago, anamika said:

Yeah, but both Kit and Emilia are not there. If filming is going on right now, it's going on without them.

 

But like you said, we don't know what they are filming. I don't believe that either Jon or Dany will die, but I certainly think it is impossible that both will die.

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[gemmalogical]

5 minutes ago, whateverdgaf said:

  But if not, just the fact Nik and Gwen are filming together so much makes me happy.

Me too. Although it has occurred to me that bittersweet might involve Brienne dying while Jaime lives on. (Doubtful, I know.)

I was not aware of any Conleth sightings until this latest batch of pictures. Does this mean the only named/semi-prominent actor not to have been sighted is Jerome Flynn? I'll be sad if there is no more Bronn to be seen. There have been foilers/speculation about Yara, but I'm not sure if Gemma has been sighted.

Seeing Tom W. makes me stupidly happy, even if it's all a trolling ruse.

[anamika]

5 minutes ago, SimoneS said:

But we don't know what they are filming. I don't believe that either Jon or Dany will die, but I certainly think it is impossible that both are dead.

Sure, they could both be dead. But the question still stands - why would the surviving Starks and Lannisters conduct their business in the Dragonpit with both Targaryens and their dragons dead? Would the Red Keep not do? Tyrion's trial was held in the Red Keep. That's where KL business has been conducted before Dany invaded Westeros.

I guess it's possible that the Red Keep is too damaged after the Night King and AOTD attack.

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[SimoneS]

12 minutes ago, anamika said:

Sure, they could both be dead. But the question still stands - why would the surviving Starks and Lannisters conduct their business in the Dragonpit with both Targaryens and their dragons dead? Would the Red Keep not do? Tyrion's trial was held in the Red Keep. That's where KL business has been conducted before Dany invaded Westeros.

They could be waiting on Jon and Dany to arrive with their armies and dragons. Maybe Jon and Dany are filming elsewhere, on the green screen. 

I will also add even though NCW is there, I am not yet convinced that Jaime lives. <--- I take this back. Jaime must survive somehow.

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[Eyes High]

1 hour ago, anamika said:

He could have taken a flight to Belfast. According to Freefolk there was one along with flights to Seville.

 

Possible. A_red_priestess said there were mercenaries and villagers filming in Belfast this week. Someone presumably had to be filming with them.

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The possible Sansa-Tyrion scene - if it's just the two of them - baffles me. What scene could these two be doing in the Dragonpit. At the end of the day the Dragonpit is significant to the Targaryens. And with both Kit and Emilia missing -  A dragonpit scene without the last dragons? Tyrion has petted dragons before.  Is he a secret Targaryen......?  I am not going there ?

I doubt it involves dragons, with no greenscreen markers. I don't know that it's just Sansa and Tyrion, only that the fact that the stand-ins were spotted together suggests that they've been working on the same scene.

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Maybe these are small, separate scenes that involve different characters doing different things.

I doubt it. They're only there for a week, aren't they? They don't have nearly enough time to film four or five scenes, especially when one scene that we know of involves multiple extras (maybe hundreds?).

From the way D&D spoke about the S7 Dragonpit scene--how much fun they had filming it, how much fun everyone had, what a wonderful experience it was, etc.--leads me to think that we're going to get a similar scene in S8, as an excuse to bring together the remaining cast members playing the surviving main characters in one big scene. If that were so, you'd think they'd think of a reason to put Jon and Dany on the ground in the Dragonpit. We'll see, though.

53 minutes ago, SimoneS said:

They could be waiting on Jon and Dany to arrive with their armies and dragons. Maybe Jon and Dany are filming elsewhere, on the green screen. 

I will also add even though NCW is there, I am not yet convinced that Jaime lives. <--- I take this back. Jaime must survive somehow.

 

There are no green screen markers at the Italica site this time around. There will be dragons in the Dragonpit proper in whatever scene/scenes is/are filmed, although I suppose Jon and Dany could be flying overhead during the scenes.

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[ElizaD]

To me the most shocking ending would be no Targaryen restoration. GRRM is all about the Targaryens, we're waiting for TWOW and getting more fire and blood fake history books, we get tons of useless details about them when we didn't even know the name of Ned's mother for ages and still don't know the name of the ruling Princess of Dorne. I just can't see him saying no to the possibility of future Targaryen stories. The monarch has to be Jon and/or Dany or their baby with Tyrion/Sansa/whoever as regent. Even if Emilia and Kit haven't been spotted yet, the miracle baby has to be alive.

[SimoneS]

2 minutes ago, Eyes High said:

There are no green screen markers at the Italica site this time around. There will be dragons in the Dragonpit proper in whatever scene/scenes is/are filmed, although I suppose Jon and Dany could be flying overhead during the scenes.

If Dany and Jon are on the dragons, then they could have filmed their scenes already and are not needed for these particular scenes on ground so Kit and Emilia can arrive later. If Dany and Jon are dead, there is no one to ride the dragons and they would just fly off so there would no reason for the other characters to be at Dragonpit. Maybe they are waiting of the dragons to burn them alive. Ha!

[John Potts]

20 hours ago, Happy Harpy said:

Next stop, Stannis?

Well we never saw an actual body (and I guess he could always come back as a zombie, which would be a real kick in the teeth for Mel).

I really hope Sansa isn't kidnapped. We keep being told, "Sansa's becoming more of a player!" only to see that she's just the victim of other people's plots. Have her do something on her own initiative for once (that isn't, "Well, if you'd bothered to ask, I could have told you the Knights of the Vale were on their way. I feel the thousands of casualties were worth it to prove I was right!")

[Eyes High]

12 minutes ago, ElizaD said:

To me the most shocking ending would be no Targaryen restoration. GRRM is all about the Targaryens, we're waiting for TWOW and getting more fire and blood fake history books, we get tons of useless details about them when we didn't even know the name of Ned's mother for ages and still don't know the name of the ruling Princess of Dorne. I just can't see him saying no to the possibility of future Targaryen stories. The monarch has to be Jon and/or Dany or their baby with Tyrion/Sansa/whoever as regent. Even if Emilia and Kit haven't been spotted yet, the miracle baby has to be alive.

It is possible that Jon, Dany and baby survive and just fly off never to be heard from again, even though I think it would be wildly out of character for Jon or Dany to contemplate something of the sort.

9 minutes ago, SimoneS said:

If Dany and Jon are on the dragons, then they could have filmed their scenes already and are not needed for these particular scenes on ground so Kit and Emilia can arrive later. 

Emilia can't "arrive later" unless filming is extended. She's booked solid through the 17th, and Seville filming ends on the 18th.

And really, if this is a momentous 8x06 scene with multiple extras and with all the leading cast present except Kit, Emilia and Lena, there had better be a damn good reason why Kit and Emilia aren't there with everyone else and front and centre as they usually are. If this is such a big scene, why aren't Jon and Dany a big part of it? "They're flying their dragons" isn't a satisfactory answer. "They ran off to Pentos to raise their kid in peace" isn't a satisfactory answer, either. So what is going on?

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[SimoneS]

15 minutes ago, Eyes High said:

And really, if this is a momentous 8x06 scene with multiple extras and with all the leading cast present except Kit, Emilia and Lena, there had better be a damn good reason why Kit and Emilia aren't there with everyone else and front and centre as they usually are. If this is such a big scene, why aren't Jon and Dany a big part of it? "They're flying their dragons" isn't a satisfactory answer. "They ran off to Pentos to raise their kid in peace" isn't a satisfactory answer, either. So what is going on?

 

I have been reading WOTW. The actors who play the NK, Jaqen, and the waif are there also. It is an odd group of characters. It is difficult for me to conceive of a plausible scenario where all of them are filming together in Dragonpit. How about the NK arrives on Viserion and is crowned the King of the Seven Kingdoms? Ridiculous. I don't have a clue what is going on so I am not jumping to any conclusions about anyone's fate.

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[Cujoy]

A Bran vision? For the last two seasons, Bran's character has existed on the show almost exclusively to deliver information via his visions.  His presence there screams, to me that this is an important scene for Bran.  Jamie and the Night King are both important characters in Bran's storyline, and they have both been in his visions before.  Sam and of course his siblings are obviously very important to him too.  If it is a Bran vision scene, then it doesn't guarantee that a character's presence in Seville equals that they survive to the end of the series.  That could be a possible reason why D&D don't mind the actors showing themselves.  Whatever it is, whatever is happening is important because of the setting the producers chose for it, and the cast that is involved.

[SeanC]

3 hours ago, Eyes High said:

Unless Theon and Yara both die, there's no reason for the Iron Islands to lack a representative at the Great Council (assuming that's what happens). 

If I recall correctly, Dany promised to grant the Ironborn independence in exchange for their support in the campaign, so if this were a Great Council, there’d be no reason for them to be present.

2 minutes ago, Cujoy said:

A Bran vision? For the last two seasons, Bran's character has existed on the show almost exclusively to deliver information via his visions.  His presence there screams, to me that this is an important scene for Bran.  Jamie and the Night King are both important characters in Bran's storyline, and they have both been in his visions before.  Sam and of course his siblings are obviously very important to him too.  If it is a Bran vision scene, then it doesn't guarantee that a character's presence in Seville equals that they survive to the end of the series.  That could be a possible reason why D&D don't mind the actors showing themselves.  Whatever it is, whatever is happening is important because of the setting the producers chose for it, and the cast that is involved.

TV Bran doesn’t have purely allegorical visions, for the most part, and definitely not in recent seasons when the writing went entirely off-book.  He only sees things that actually happen.

[SimoneS]

21 minutes ago, Cujoy said:

A Bran vision? For the last two seasons, Bran's character has existed on the show almost exclusively to deliver information via his visions.  His presence there screams, to me that this is an important scene for Bran.  Jamie and the Night King are both important characters in Bran's storyline, and they have both been in his visions before.  Sam and of course his siblings are obviously very important to him too.  If it is a Bran vision scene, then it doesn't guarantee that a character's presence in Seville equals that they survive to the end of the series.  That could be a possible reason why D&D don't mind the actors showing themselves.  Whatever it is, whatever is happening is important because of the setting the producers chose for it, and the cast that is involved.

This did not occur me, but it is possible. Bran could be seeing a possible future with the NK at Dragonpit. The waif is dead (as far as we know) so maybe we are getting a flashback to Arya's past with Jaquen. I cannot imagine under what circumstances Jaqen and Waif show up at Dragonpit to participating in the final denouement. 

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[SeanC]

Well, in theory, the Waif’s face is on the wall in the House of Black and White, so any other Faceless Man could use it.

[GraceK]

It’s also very possible that Kit is there and they are going to great lengths to keep him hidden. This could be a very good distraction. And Emilia could well show up later , also well hidden.

[SeanC]

35 minutes ago, GraceK said:

It’s also very possible that Kit is there and they are going to great lengths to keep him hidden. This could be a very good distraction. And Emilia could well show up later , also well hidden.

Emilia’s schedule makes her showing up extremely unlikely.  She’s also on a very public press tour.

[Eyes High]

1 hour ago, GraceK said:

It’s also very possible that Kit is there and they are going to great lengths to keep him hidden. This could be a very good distraction. And Emilia could well show up later , also well hidden.

Kit has been allegedly spotted in Belfast.

If there are skirmishes in KL involving Jon going on at the same time as the Starks are holed up in the Dragonpit, it may explain why Jorah and Sandor are not there (they're off fighting). On the other hand, if there is a fight, one would expect Arya to be fighting with Jon.

/RedB04 at /Freefolk reports Belfast filming scoop:

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Ok what I know is that they were filming KL’s [smallfolk] running away from something today.

From there, this is speculation: Probably from the same people who were trying to get inside KL when I was in Belfast (with the archers defending the walls) These people are mercenaries (mercenaries are filming for sure but I don’t know if they’re defending KL or trying to get in) My theory is that these mercenaries are the GC and they turned against Cersei. If Kit is filming on the same set, it means he’s with them. All of this could happen while all the other characters are in the dragonpit.

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[GraceK]

9 minutes ago, Eyes High said:

Kit has been allegedly spotted in Belfast.

If there are skirmishes in KL involving Jon going on at the same time as the Starks are holed up in the Dragonpit, it may explain why Jorah and Sandor are not there (they're off fighting). On the other hand, if there is a fight, one would expect Arya to be fighting with Jon.

/RedB04 at /Freefolk reports Belfast filming scoop:

I approve this speculation ☺️

10 minutes ago, Eyes High said:

Ok what I know is that they were filming KL’s [smallfolk] running away from something today.

From there, this is speculation: Probably from the same people who were trying to get inside KL when I was in Belfast (with the archers defending the walls) These people are mercenaries (mercenaries are filming for sure but I don’t know if they’re defending KL or trying to get in) My theory is that these mercenaries are the GC and they turned against Cersei. If Kit is filming on the same set, it means he’s with them. All of this could happen while all the other characters are in the dragonpit.

Yes please ?

[onyxrose81]

There's a fan who said they met Kit and he gave an autograph.  She had posted one tweet and then deleted it, but then added this:   https://twitter.com/allisoncartmill/status/994640647809388545

I'm not sure if she's in Belfast or London (I think it's Belfast) but either way...not Seville.  There was only one sighting of him at an airport at Stansted but no spotting of him since.  Like it was mentioned on Freefolk and by anamika, there were two flights leaving around the same time, Seville and Belfast.  So more than likely he's not with everyone else in Spain.  No sign of Lena either.  

Edited May 10, 2018 by onyxrose81

[Edith]

D&D are in Spain, so whatever Kit might be filming in Belfast is either for episode 5, if Sapochnik hasn't arrived in Seville yet, or episode 4.

Also from Freefolk:

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BoatsexBaby

She also replied to Jory that Lena, Kit and Emilia aren't there for sure. It gives more credence to the Belfast/London sighting for Kit.

Btw I can confirm that there was filming today. Peter and Sophie's body doubles were with some of the crew members and not hanging out in Seville like they have been doing for the past 2 days.

Edited May 10, 2018 by Edith

[WindyNights]

6 hours ago, anamika said:

He could have taken a flight to Belfast. According to Freefolk there was one along with flights to Seville.

The possible Sansa-Tyrion scene - if it's just the two of them - baffles me. What scene could these two be doing in the Dragonpit. At the end of the day the Dragonpit is significant to the Targaryens. And with both Kit and Emilia missing -  A dragonpit scene without the last dragons? Tyrion has petted dragons before.  Is he a secret Targaryen......?  I am not going there ?

I don't think we should immediately jump to 'Dany is dead' because she is is not there for dragonpit and exterior KL filming. She could be in KL giving birth. She could be flying above KL if there are fight scenes. Maybe these are small, separate scenes that involve different characters doing different things. Arya, Gendry,Waif, Jaqen, Varys trying to infiltrate the red keep. Davos smuggling them in. Tyrion, Sansa doing something in the Dragonpit. Jaime/Brienne going to the red keep to face Cersei. Bran and Sam....I don't know.  After all, these Spain locations are just the exteriors of KL city.

If Cersei is gone by episode 4, I don't see Jaime lasting beyond that. How certain are we that they are only filming episodes 5 and 6? Maybe D&D and Sapochnik help Nutter get some shots while he is busy in Belfast.

SweetRobin is a puzzle.

I think both or one should survive. And yeah if there is a Great Council, one of them would definitely be there. The Iron Islands is too important to ignore. Plus we would see some actors - new or otherwise - representing Dorne and the Riverlands. Plus, I don't think all 3 Starks are going to be present for any such meeting. One of them at least will be up North picking up the pieces with respect to WF.

Possible. But once again, the Dragonpit became relevant only after Dany came to Westeros. It holds significance for the Targaryens. Why would the Lannisters and Starks conduct their business there?

The Iron Islands are officially separate from Westeros. Daenerys gave them their independence therefore they don't need to to be there for a Great Council deciding who should rule them.

[GraceK]

Did you guys see NCW latest story on Instagram? Him and Conleth Hill were laughing together in I’m assuming is Seville. And Conleth Hill is shaved again so it looks like we are seeing Varys ? 

Edited May 10, 2018 by GraceK

[Eyes High]

18 minutes ago, Edith said:

D&D are in Spain, so whatever Kit might be filming in Belfast is either for episode 5, if Sapochnik hasn't arrived in Seville yet, or episode 4.

Also from Freefolk:

In addition to Peter and Sophie, it looks like Faye and Tom were filming today as well. So Tyrion + Sansa + Jaqen + the Waif = ???

Are Tyrion and Sansa already dead with their faces taken by the FM? Or are they killed by Jaqen and the Waif? Or do they have an innocuous encounter with Jaqen and the Waif and only later learn they’re FM? And is Arya in this scene at all?

Craziness.

[Edith]

1 minute ago, Eyes High said:

In addition to Peter and Sophie, it looks like Faye and Tom were filming today as well. So Tyrion + Sansa + Jaqen + the Waif = ???

Are Tyrion and Sansa already dead with their faces taken by the FM? Or are they killed by Jaqen and the Waif? Or do they have an innocuous encounter with Jaqen and the Waif and only later learn they’re FM? And is Arya in this scene at all?

Craziness.

Apparently Gwen and Maisie too.  

[YaddaYadda]

If the actor who plays Jaqen is in Seville and filming to boot, then I have to believe he made his way there to fight in the Long Night. Introducing him back with two episodes left to the series makes no sense. But then the whole thing may have started with wouldn't it be cool if we brought him back. 

The FM storyline seemed to be completely done when Arya left the House of Black and White.

[Eyes High]

16 minutes ago, Edith said:

Apparently Gwen and Maisie too.  

The only thing I heard about Gwen is that she came out at the hotel to greet fans before heading out this evening.

The only confirmed actors who filmed today as far as I know are Peter and Sophie, but it’s believed Tom and Faye filmed as well based on their travel to and from the hotel and the braids in Faye’s hair (which look like bald cap braids).

NCW and Conleth took the day off. That leaves Gwen, Joe, Maisie, Liam, Vladimir, Isaac, John and Lino Facioli unaccounted for.

ETA: Now /BoatsexBaby is suggesting that since Maisie only has a stunt double for Seville and not a stand-in that Peter and Sophie’s stand-ins might be acting as stunt doubles as well. This just keeps getting crazier.

Edited May 10, 2018 by Eyes High

[GraceK]

Also Faye filming could literally mean nothing. it could be as simple as Arya wearing her face to disguise herself. It could be as simple as that. Tom is more interesting because I personally always wondered about his interest in Arya and If he had an actual purpose in the war to come. Arya’s endgame could very well have something to do with Jaqen.

Edited May 10, 2018 by GraceK

[WindyNights]

16 minutes ago, GraceK said:

Also Faye filming could literally mean nothing. it could be as simple as Arya wearing her face to disguise herself. It could be as simple as that. Tom is more interesting because I personally always wondered about his interest in Arya and If he had an actual purpose in the war to come. Arya’s endgame could very well have something to do with Jaqen.

Arya left the Waif's face at the House of Black and White.

[SimoneS]

52 minutes ago, Eyes High said:

In addition to Peter and Sophie, it looks like Faye and Tom were filming today as well. So Tyrion + Sansa + Jaqen + the Waif = ???

Are Tyrion and Sansa already dead with their faces taken by the FM? Or are they killed by Jaqen and the Waif? Or do they have an innocuous encounter with Jaqen and the Waif and only later learn they’re FM? And is Arya in this scene at all?

Craziness.

I cannot even come up with a scenario to explain why Jaqen or any of the Faceless Men would be at King's Landing. Who would waste money to hire an assassin to go into a war to kill someone when the odds are good that the person would be killed in the war? Maybe Jaqen left the FM to go help Arya, but why? 

Also, I still believe the five main characters from Martin's original outline will survive so I don't think Tyrion, Jon, Dany, Bran, or Arya are dead or are going to die.

I think that it is far more notable that Lena isn't there. Cersei must be dead or locked up by this time.

Edited May 10, 2018 by SimoneS

[GraceK]

4 minutes ago, WindyNights said:

Arya left the Waif's face at the House of Black and White.

True.  But there was a scene in the house of black and white where Jaqen apparently drank poison right and Arya was peeling off all his faces? Even her own?  Arya may not be using the Waifs face but that doesn’t mean Jaqen isn’t.

Either way the Waif is dead. So if we do see her make an appearance it’s not gonna actually be “her”.

[YaddaYadda]

11 minutes ago, WindyNights said:

Arya left the Waif's face at the House of Black and White.

And Jaqen could have brought it with him. IIRC, Sansa found Walder Frey's face in Arya's things.