Season 18 Live Feed Discussion: Their Lives are Almost as Boring as Ours!

[Katesus7]

I think it's way too early to figure out America's player. Has a non-jury member ever won? There have been people who in the first half of the season wouldn't have gotten anywhere near it, but became very sympathetic later on - I.e. Nicole. Donny of course won that year, but she was in the top three, something that would have been inconceivable at this point of the season. And if Day leaves next week, people will have forgotten all about her by the end. Same with Frank.

Are these assholes seriously all sleeping at 1:40 in the afternoon? I HATE the ridiculous sleeping hours which happens every freaking year. Ruins my viewing schedule.

[Wings]

10 minutes ago, Katesus7 said:

I think it's way too early to figure out America's player.

It is way too early to figure out final 3 too!  We are clearly ready for some action so we are making our own as they sleep!

Edited July 24, 2016 by wings707

[Umbelina]

Many of them stayed up until after 9AM.  I'm flashing back.

I'm rooting for James or Natalie to win the game, mostly because they aren't childish assholes, and rarely stoop to shit talking.

I think Nicole is playing pretty well, dick-obsessed as she is, but she will never win AFP, most people hate her this year.  Corey doesn't really bug me either, obviously gay or bi, but not a real shit talker, and for a newbie, playing well.  I go back and forth on Day, she's SO much better around Nat and James, Z brings out her ugly side.

I didn't watch when Victor was on before, but I like him so far.

This season is mostly about who I don't want there. Paul is playing well too, but I can't stand him or his stage voice booming through the house, and he will be found out, if not, he earned a win and he's playing an Andy game with a bros to the end twist.  Bridgette is a horrible person and boring.  Frank, never cared for him in either season, although I like him fighting to stay.   Paulie I CAN NOT STAND type thing.  If I wanted to watch his screwed up version of Derrick's season, I'd rewatch that on.  Z is an awful, immature person, throwing cookies away, the meanest of the mean girls, dick-obsessed.  Michelle has SO much potential, but she's so completely nasty about other people I can't root for her, but of the group in this paragraph, I'd rather she win than the rest.

Edited July 24, 2016 by Umbelina
because I'm not awake yet

[J.D.]

I'm just waiting for that shirt that's hanging on the lamp in the Tokyo room to catch fire.  

[Lady Calypso]

13 minutes ago, wings707 said:

I am so glad to see you included Nicole.  I have a soft spot for her.  I do hate her whine tone when speaking but there is a genuine sweet girl there. 

I'm going to be perfect honest here; after my love for James/Natalie, I have no favourites, and Nicole has been at least not up Paulie's ass...or Paul's. And she can be annoying with her Corey talk, but Zak seems unaware that she's even playing a game. I haven't seen Zak play, while Nicole has been. And since I want two females in the finals and I don't like any of the other girls, then Nicole's there for at least playing a decent game. She has said mean things, but from season 16 experience, it's usually because she joins in with the other catty girls and not because she's genuinely catty herself. Michelle/Zak shit talk other girls way more than Nicole does, who has at least mentioned a couple of male targets. 

It's definitely too early, but I actually like to go back to my old posts after the season's over and see my thought process change from day 1 to day 90. So occasionally throwing out my predictions allows me to see how things change during the course of the game!

Hence why I have semi-regular posts on what an ideal situation would be for that week/next week. I like to remember my thought process. 

[mooses]

1 minute ago, Umbelina said:

I think Nicole is playing pretty well, dick-obsessed as she is, but she will never win AFP, most people hate her this year.

Yeah, her gameplay is pretty good, and she's in with the right people. It seems like it's a couple whispers from crashing down, but there's quite a few big targets ahead of her even if that happens.

I did a complete 180 on Nicole this season, and it seems like I'm not the only one. But the TV viewers are the ones who decide AFP and I'm not sure about her show edit. I could also see her gaining favor depending on how long she stays - especially if she gets out some strong players (hey, Paulie). And she's backed off of the Z/Michelle time, so she's not quite as annoying lately.

Natalie seems popular with feed watcher but isn't getting the TV time she needs to win this year and whatever time she does get paints her as an airhead. And, honestly, one of the only ways to realize she is more aware than she seems is to really pay attention to her, so I don't know how they'd portray that - particularly with these scripted Diary Rooms.

I'd wager on one of the Vets winning AFP - probably James at the moment, but maybe Nicole/Da'Vonne if they start being a bigger presence in the future.

[Lady Calypso]

12 minutes ago, Umbelina said:

I think Nicole is playing pretty well, dick-obsessed as she is, but she will never win AFP, most people hate her this year.

I don't know about the general audience, but I've looked at polls on popular Big Brother sites, and Nicole's in the lead as the 'best' houseguest, followed by Day on two of them. So, I do think there are many who still love her. The general audience also has the majority of the voting, so they tend to go for underdogs or funny people. Nicole's had a better edit than most, so she has a good chance. 

Not that I like those polls, just to be clear. The polls I looked at both have Natalie near the bottom of the lists, so that's clearly wrong. It also has Frank in top three, but I can see why, unfortunately.

[Umbelina]

Natalie told James he should put up Paulie during the early hours of the morning.  Nat has game.

I'm glad I went to bed, but luckily there is a lot to flash back to.  The Michelle/Frank conversation before 4AM is also good, but idiot Frank is so obsessed with getting out Day, he's screwing things up.  He was never a good player.

Michelle is saying to Frank that she doesn't want Frank to go home, and that she's being completely honest.  Idiot Frank suggests Bridgette being with that, WHAT an idiot!  Michelle says she can't stand her.  Frank continues to rah rah Bridgette, SO stupid.

ETA Still flashing back, James says Paulie could be the replacement nom!  Holy shit, good work Natalie!  4:17 AM in the SR with Day!

Edited July 24, 2016 by Umbelina

[J.D.]

If Nicole wins, I'll jump off a bridge.  If Zak wins, I'll jump off a building.  If Frank wins, I'll jump in front of a train.  If Day wins, I'll jump out of a window.  If Michelle wins, I'll jump into shark infested water.  If Paulie wins, I'll jump into molten lava.  

I'm fine with Natalie winning the game.  I'm fine with James winning the game.  I'm fine with Paul winning America's Friendship Player.

I don't care enough about Bridgette to even assess her outcome.  Ditto for Victor.  

About Corey:  I don't know what to make of him.  I know he's a huge Trump supporter so that's a check mark in the 'minus' category.  Pre-show, I heard he was homophobic.  Now I'm hearing he's gay or bi.  I'm so confused about Corey.  He's clearly not all that into Nicole, which is a check mark in the 'plus' category. He's not good looking, but at least he seems clean and relatively housebroken, so I'll have to think about him some more.  Don't know yet if I like the guy for playing a quiet, low-key game... or whether I dislike the guy for taking a slot on the show that could have been filled by someone who might have played a little stronger.

[Umbelina]

Holy crap, apparently I missed a good early morning feeds type thing.  All kind of things happening from the moment I went to bed around 3AM. 

Edited July 24, 2016 by Umbelina

[mooses]

27 minutes ago, Umbelina said:

Natalie told James he should put up Paulie during the early hours of the morning.  Nat has game.

Natalie is very aware of what's going on. She also told him how he's just doing the House's dirty work and Paulie is controlling things.

She has a good read of their standing in the House, but I don't know how receptive James is to her ideas. I mean, he listens but I'm not sure if he cares. There's been so much talk about whether she's "playing" James or not, but, if anything, I think he's playing her. I can't tell if she's his Number One in the game or just the person he likes hanging out with, but Natalie definitely thinks they're each other's Number One. I do think he's wants to work with Paulie and won't jeopardize that, but I'm not certain if he'd choose Paulie or Natalie if he had to - especially since protects Paulie quite a bit with her. 

Also, the cynical side of me thinks James knows he won AFP with the help of his Flirtmance with Meg and is trying to replicate that with Natalie. It's AFP strategy for him, since he's definitely focused on that prize.

15 minutes ago, J.D. said:

About Corey:  I don't know what to make of him.  I know he's a huge Trump supporter so that's a check mark in the 'minus' category.  Pre-show, I heard he was homophobic.  Now I'm hearing he's gay or bi.  I'm so confused about Corey.  He's clearly not all that into Nicole, which is a check mark in the 'plus' category. He's not good looking, but at least he seems clean and relatively housebroken, so I'll have to think about him some more.  Don't know yet if I like the guy for playing a quiet, low-key game... or whether I dislike the guy for taking a slot on the show that could have been filled by someone who might have played a little stronger.

Corey is better than I was giving him credit for. I actually think he's helping Nicole's game quite a bit - he's definitely helping her ability to play both sides of the House because he can have clear, calm conversations where Nicole would freak out. He also is less of a "Yes Man" to Paulie/Nicole than he seems. He voices his opinion but he isn't erratic or pushy. 

But he's so, so boring. He's not too bad at the game, but he also doesn't add much to it either.

Edited July 24, 2016 by mooses

[Brian Cronin]

Corey is playing a fine game. He's just boring as fuck. 

[Umbelina]

I loved the "house" trying to break up this long Michelle/Frank talk so awkwardly, and Frank shutting them down.  "I'm talking to the POV winner," then pretty nicely but appropriately firmly kicking their asses out.

Z looked foolish with her stupid giggles,and Day had a dumb ass look on her face like "OOOOKAY" James awkwardly said "you want the HOH here?" and Paul just sat there like an idiot.

Points?  Frank.

4:41 Frank again asked for a coup d'etat.

Edited July 24, 2016 by Umbelina

[Brian Cronin]

It's spelled Cootie Taw. ;)

[J.D.]

10 minutes ago, Brian Cronin said:

Corey is playing a fine game. He's just boring as fuck. 

I'm leaning that way as well.  He's often present during other HG's rants, but he doesn't allow himself to get caught up in all the drama and he doesn't voice his opinion too strongly.  He did try to sway Paulie to vote out Day over Tiff, but when he saw he was getting no where, he knew it was smart to back off before he scarred himself for life in Paulie's eyes.  I'm holding out hope that Corey will come out of his cocoon at just the right moment.  I would love to see him team up with Natalie and James, but unfortunately, that would include Nicole because she's dickmatized over Corey.  (Mad props to the Previously member who gave me my new favorite word.  Just wish I could remember who that was). :D

[Mnemosyne]

When it comes to Corey, I just can't get over the whole story about the poor goat. Dude's dead to me.

[Umbelina]

Hilarious Paul "calling out Frank" at 4:51.  Trust me it's totally lame, but amusing in it's way.

Sorry, they are all sleeping now, so I'm just still flashing back.  Paul is such a paper tiger.

[Mreid]

I hate late veto comps. It really messes up the houseguests sleep schedules

[Wings]

James is not playing Natalie at all.  He had a conversation with Z about her angst with Paulie (eye roll).  In that conversation he voiced a speck of insecurity with Nat.  

Corey told the goat story which I now see was probably to be one of the boys.  I am guessing it was told to him.  He is not a guy who would set a goat on fire or think it funny.  He is dull but a vote.  He is not tight with the Ps so that is good.  His name comes up. 

Michele and the others have to drop their hate of Bridget and see that she is a vote they need.

Z you have to stop your pettiness, too. 

Day is a odd one and loose cannon, she must be tended.  She gets a hate on quickly.

James and Natalie will be fine leaving Paulies fold.  

Nicole is sharp, I expect her to see that it is time for Paulie to go. 

There are some possibilities here if they the above mentioned see that Frank has to go. 

Edited July 24, 2016 by wings707

[Umbelina]

Frank told Michelle about the Vet's not getting stipends.  She told James and Day, but Natalie's there too and her face!  Because James just lied to her about that earlier last night.

Vets getting $20K and another $25K if they make jury.  Mich didn't mention the amounts, and James and Day tried to change the subject while Nat looks gobsmacked.

Damn, I picked the wrong night to go to bed!  Z and Bridge have it out around 5:03.  B says she alligned herself with a strong man, just like Z and Nicole did, so what.  Birthday shit discussed, as well as bully stuff. 

Edited July 24, 2016 by Umbelina

[Mreid]

I would really love to see Bridgette leave Thursday. But I think they would be crazy to keep Frank in the game. 

[mooses]

3 minutes ago, Umbelina said:

Frank told Michelle about the Vet's not getting stipends.  She told James and Day, but Natalie's there too and her face!  Because James just lied to her about that earlier last night.

Vets getting $20K and another $25K if they make jury.  Mich didn't mention the amounts, and James and Day tried to change the subject while Nat looks gobsmacked.

Ha! Michelle is great at accidentally bringing up information in front of the wrong people. I really don't think she does it on purpose. 

What did James tell her instead?

Bridgette knows about the Vets' stipend too. I wonder if her or Natalie will mention it to each other.

ETA: @Umbelina What time was that at?

Edited July 24, 2016 by mooses

[Umbelina]

I'm at around 5:06 now, so 5?  Honestly, it's all been good since I went to bed at 3AM!  Damn.

I'm enjoying this mini fight with Z and Bridgette.  Z is lying, B is being VERY honest.

Also, I missed it, but read elsewhere that Paulie wants to nominate Z next.

The night before Nat kind of questioned James about whether vets were getting paid more, can't remember the specifics, it just came up conversationally, James quickly said something like "nah" and changed the subject.  It was a lie. 

Edited July 24, 2016 by Umbelina

[Mreid]

1 minute ago, Umbelina said:

I'm at around 5:06 now, so 5?  Honestly, it's all been good since I went to bed at 3AM!  Damn.

I'm enjoying this mini fight with Z and Bridgette.

Also, I missed it, but read elsewhere that Paulie wants to nominate Z next.

The night before Nat kind of questioned James about whether vets were getting paid more, can't remember the specifics, it just came up conversationally, James quickly said something like "nah" and changed the subject.  It was a lie. 

Yeah the feeds were gold last night. Of course I went to bed early and missed every thing lol. Thank god for flashback. 

Finally they are waking up 

[mooses]

2 minutes ago, Umbelina said:

I'm at around 5:06 now, so 5?  Honestly, it's all been good since I went to bed at 3AM!  Damn.

I'm enjoying this mini fight with Z and Bridgette.

Also, I missed it, but read elsewhere that Paulie wants to nominate Z next.

The night before Nat kind of questioned James about whether vets were getting paid more, can't remember the specifics, it just came up conversationally, James quickly said something like "nah" and changed the subject.  It was a lie. 

Ah, thanks!

Paulie was really upset at Z, especially after she told him she thinks athlete's skate by in college and his A's weren't earned. He said Z is "biting the hand that feeds her." He wants Da'Vonne out, and Z didn't seem on board - so he'll just put 'em both up.

He talked about it with Corey/Nicole at some point and then later with Frank/Bridgette/Victor in the bathroom last night.

[Wings]

I loved that Paulie wants to put Day up with Z so she will think she is a pawn!  I guess he doesn't want to burn the bridge to get laid when this wraps. 

[Umbelina]

I'm seriously loving Bridgette owning Z and Z lying her ass off about her nasty cruelty.  Bridgette hasn't giggled or laughed once, and her voice is a full octave lower. 

[J.D.]

2 minutes ago, wings707 said:

I loved that Paulie wants to put Day up with Z so she will think she is a pawn!  I guess he doesn't want to burn the bridge to get laid when this wraps. 

Paulie will do just fine without her when this is over.

1 minute ago, Umbelina said:

I'm seriously loving Bridgette owning Z and Z lying her ass off about her nasty cruelty.  Bridgette hasn't giggled or laughed once, and her voice is a full octave lower. 

Is that on flashback?

[Umbelina]

Yeah, I think it starts a little after 5 AM on feed 3/4.

It's good. Bridgette says she's a nurse and has a life and reputation.

Damn Frank just walked in, let's see if Bridgette's voice goes up or she starts giggling.

I wonder if Z will throw away her cookies again tomorrow?

Edited July 24, 2016 by Umbelina

[Wings]

1 minute ago, J.D. said:

Paulie will do just fine without her when this is over.

 

Though he wants to win I think he has before they both leave CA in mind. 

[mooses]

10 minutes ago, wings707 said:

I loved that Paulie wants to put Day up with Z so she will think she is a pawn!  I guess he doesn't want to burn the bridge to get laid when this wraps. 

He definitely doesn't want Z to go, and I think it is probably just Calafiore Talk (aka it'll never happen). 

Honestly, the "bite the hand that feeds you" line was gross and the whole thing has a yucky teach-her-a-lesson, don't-disagree-with-me vibe - but if Z does get played by Paulie, it's her own fault. She's more obsessed with playing games with him to get a kiss rather than to the Finals.

Edited July 24, 2016 by mooses

[Umbelina]

Paulie might mean it, he said he "didn't want to make a porno" and the other night he almost did.  He knows he's on camera and about flashbacks.  He's had ejaculations while sleeping a couple of times.

I'm missing most of the feeds Paul is on, I just switch them.  I can't stand that guy. 

So, I end up watching Paulie and Victor bonding.  As expected.

[Wings]

9 minutes ago, Umbelina said:

Yeah, I think it starts a little after 5 AM on feed 3/4.

It's good. Bridgette says she's a nurse and has a life and reputation.

Damn Frank just walked in, let's see if Bridgette's voice goes up or she starts giggling.

I wonder if Z will throw away her cookies again tomorrow?

I am listening now.  WOW.  Z is being aggressive to Bridget all the time she is denying she doesn't dislike her.  She is really laying into Bridget.  She is acting like a classic bitch. If anyone thinks they like Z, take a look at this. Jesus. 

[J.D.]

Okay, now ya 'all making me want to flashback to that conversation.  

[Wings]

There is absolutely no way Z is going to work with Bridget.  She will not be able to see through her hate to observe and play the game in front of her. We know Michele won't. 

[Deputy Deputy CoS]

20 minutes ago, Umbelina said:

I'm seriously loving Bridgette owning Z and Z lying her ass off about her nasty cruelty.  Bridgette hasn't giggled or laughed once, and her voice is a full octave lower. 

Do you have a time stamp for this. 

I haven't been inspired to watch the feeds since the buy back episode

[Umbelina]

You really should flashback.  Feeds were great from 4AM until after 5.  I switched over to live just now, but may flashback again because I know many were up until after 9 AM.

Victor just cleaned the whole kitchen, is cooking breakfast, joked about cooking breakfast at 3"30 PM and talked to the cameras for a minute about being hopeful and not thinking he's a target this week at least.

[Mreid]

4 minutes ago, J.D. said:

Okay, now ya 'all making me want to flashback to that conversation.  

Definitely flashback bro! Its a must see

[Umbelina]

1 minute ago, Deputy Deputy CoS said:

Do you have a time stamp for this. 

I haven't been inspired to watch the feeds since the buy back episode

I posted it above, some time right around 5AM on cam 3/4.  I just use the slider.

[Wings]

3 minutes ago, Umbelina said:

You really should flashback.  Feeds were great from 4AM until after 5.  I switched over to live just now, but may flashback again because I know many were up until after 9 AM.

Victor just cleaned the whole kitchen, is cooking breakfast, joked about cooking breakfast at 3"30 PM and talked to the cameras for a minute about being hopeful and not thinking he's a target this week at least.

When I got up  about 5:30; the boys were having their usually disgusting boy talk with LOUD Paul in SF room.  Not worth it. 

Edited July 24, 2016 by wings707

[SiobhanJW]

I'm sorry I don't know how anyone can take Zakiyah seriously when she has that stupid Giraffe plopped right next to her. Lol. 

[Umbelina]

I don't listen to the "boys" but the rest of the feeds were fun.

• Frank talking to Michelle, AND the lame attempt by Z, Day, Paul, and James to break it up, and the Frank/Mich continued talk after that where they both say how stupid that bullshit was.
• Paul's stupid fight with Frank with everyone spying on it.
• Bridge/Z heated discussion, which IMO Bridgette totally won, and it might even wake up Z about how she's coming off "to America" as a prime bitch obsessed with a guy who would never keep her.  Her BEST line was something like "SO WHAT?  I aligned myself with a strong guy, JUST LIKE YOU DID, JUST LIKE NICOLE DID."
• Michelle outing Jame's lie to Natalie about the stipend thing, she didn't know James had lied to her of course, but the camera zoomed in on Nat.

6 minutes ago, wings707 said:

When I got up  about 5am the boys were having their usually disgusting boy talk with LOUD Paul in SF room.  Not worth it. 

Ha!  You were on the wrong feed!  The other one was great. 

Edited July 24, 2016 by Umbelina

[peachmangosteen]

3 hours ago, NeelyOh said:

James is the only male in the house I don't recall being insulting or demeaning towards women in some way. 

Last season he was really gross in the early part of the game. But then after Jeff left he got much better. He's been OK this season. I think James is kinda gross outside the game though. He outted Meg and Survivor WA Mike dating when she didn't want that to be public. And apparently he doesn't really have much to do with his daughter even though for the show he makes it seem like he's very involved with her life. I wanna like James because he's OK most of the time, but these things always keep me from getting there.

1 hour ago, Umbelina said:

Paulie I CAN NOT STAND type thing.

LMAO!

The Paul/Frank fight is on youtube: part 1 and part 2. The Z/Bridgette fight is at 5:03 am on cams 3/4.

Edited July 24, 2016 by peachmangosteen

[Wings]

I edited that post.  I think i was up at 5:30, you quoted in the process.  

Edited July 24, 2016 by wings707

[Wings]

I think OTEV was early to get it in.  The secret power in that room may have pushed it forward.  

[Umbelina]

Interesting, Z making conversation with Bridgette in the bathroom, and so is Michelle.

1 minute ago, wings707 said:

I think OTEV was early to get it in.  The secret power in that room may have pushed it forward.  

I think it was to give Frank a chance to win, which he should have, considering his competition.  I also side eye those VETO draws.  Seriously, Frank SHOULD have won that one, it's usually a he-man comp.

Although, it's the one Frank went out on before...as did Nicole I think.

[Mreid]

Flashback Sunday 7/24 2:55 am Frank tells Bridgette he would pay someone one hundred bucks to punch Zakiyah in the face? Not cool. Frank not cool at all :(

[Umbelina]

Especially considering Z and Frank live 10 minutes away from each other.

[J.D.]

Watching Paul and Frank's fight on flashback.  OMG, Paul..... that is SO not Friendship.  Frank won that battle, and that is hard for me to say.

[mooses]

8 minutes ago, Umbelina said:

Interesting, Z making conversation with Bridgette in the bathroom, and so is Michelle.

I think it was to give Frank a chance to win, which he should have, considering his competition.  I also side eye those VETO draws.  Seriously, Frank SHOULD have won that one, it's usually a he-man comp.

Although, it's the one Frank went out on before...as did Nicole I think.

I have a feeling that Z/Michelle/Nicole got the memo that they weren't coming off too well. I expect them to be nicer to Bridgette/Natalie, but I'm not sure if they'll be able to help the constant trashing session.

Da'Vonne also said she hid a bunch of pieces on Frank since she knew she wasn't going to win. So I don't know if that had anything to do with it.