S02.E10: Prestonpans

[nodorothyparker]

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When the two cotters were promising to look after one another’s families if anything happened to one of them I thought that was great, but when one told the other that he had some gold hidden on his land and “bequeathed” it to the other, I couldn’t help but think, “Uh, shouldn’t your FAMILY inherit that?”  And then did he actually refer to his wife as “She Devil?”  Not cool, dude.  Not cool.

I didn’t like Rupert’s song with the Lallybroch cotter.  It sounded too much like “Down Down Down in Goblin Town” from The Hobbit.

 

I give up trying to make the quote thing work properly.

I was having a hard time following everything in the scene with Ross and Kinkaid because the accents felt much thicker than usual, but I read that as "here's where my money's hidden if you have to take care of my family."  I know one of them mentioned having six kids, which is a lot to take on very suddenly.

From what I've been reading, the song is a popular old English drinking song called "Down Among the Dead Men."  When you factor in that the tune for our own "Star-Spangled Banner" also started out as a drinking song, you have to wonder just what exactly and how much these people were drinking.

[Atlanta]

As far as Mary's son (since it's already been mentioned here), he pops up, IIRC, in the most recent book and had dropped the 'Isaacs' off of his name due to his step-dad passing away. Would have liked to know of what became of Mary.

[ulkis]

13 hours ago, nodorothyparker said:

I'm not as bothered by Dougal's actions as lot of people seem to be.

For my own part, I was mostly joking. I think the guy is cute and he has a lovely voice, so I was bummed Dougal killed him, although I guess he would not have popped up again anyway. But I get why Dougal killed him, and it was dumb of him to speak up; Dougal is obviously probably not gonna kill him.

[Haleth]

I loved the look/eye roll Jamie gave the Prince when he suggested that Claire would follow an order from her lord and master. As if.

i was a little bored by the episode although there were some wonderful moments: Jamie and Claire, Claire and Fergus, Dougal's ride on the bog.

I don't know how they are going to fit everything in in the rest of the season.

Edited June 13, 2016 by Haleth
Correcting the spelling of the male lead since Jaime is on a different show.

[emilyplum]

Angus was in the books...he actually ends up in Ardsmuir with Jamie, but his character was totally different.  I love love LOVE how they fleshed out him and Rupert both in the show, and was heartbroken to see him die this week.  And then, as others have stated, if Rupert dies at the church/falkirk this week?  :(  SO SO sad.  But I think the 'vengeance' in next week's episode will more than make up for it. 

[toolazy]

Angus, Colum's Angus, was in Ardsmuir?  

[GHScorpiosRule]

3 hours ago, emilyplum said:

Angus was in the books...he actually ends up in Ardsmuir with Jamie, but his character was totally different.  

I guess I should have been more clear--the Angus we've seen the past two seasons is not the same Angus in Ardsmuir. I'm pretty sure I read in the many interviews or saw, that Ron Moore said that Rupert's pal, Angus was a made up character. Because I certainly don't recall reading about their antics in the buik.

[WatchrTina]

Okay I've been waiting for Terry to do a post about BPC's absurd red tartan ensemble and I speculated that the painting it's based on was painted long after the fact and reflected the much later Victorian love of brightly colored tartans.  But no, Terry talks about it in this article:

http://www.elle.com/culture/movies-tv/news/a36965/outlander-secrets-part-10-costume-design-terry-dresbach/

Which includes the following regarding Prince Charles Stuart's festive ensemble:

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that's an actual reproduction of a painting that he had commissioned that he actually was out on the battlefield wearing that brilliant red plaid. It's just something, isn't it? [But that makes sense for the Prince to wear that because] dyes were incredibly, incredibly expensive! 

So, as far as we know, he actually wore that.  Wanker.

[GHScorpiosRule]

8 hours ago, WatchrTina said:

Okay I've been waiting for Terry to do a post about BPC's absurd red tartan ensemble and I speculated that the painting it's based on was painted long after the fact and reflected the much later Victorian love of brightly colored tartans.  But no, Terry talks about it in this article:

http://www.elle.com/culture/movies-tv/news/a36965/outlander-secrets-part-10-costume-design-terry-dresbach/

Which includes the following regarding Prince Charles Stuart's festive ensemble:

So, as far as we know, he actually wore that.  Wanker.

HA HA!!! I told you so!?

[Nidratime]

Just listening to Ron's podcast for the episode -- joined by Matt -- and I kind of disagree with their feeling that, because they didn't spend any time going back and reminding the audience about Colonel Foster, that the viewers wouldn't feel bad about his death. I remembered Foster and I felt bad about his death, especially knowing that Prince Charlie wanted his fighters to give the wounded English assistance in order to garner goodwill with them. Besides that, in this day and age, people are watching episodes from previous seasons via On Demand or streaming or DVDs, so Foster's previous appearance doesn't seem as long ago as it would've if we didn't have all those options to remind ourselves of characters we haven't seen in a while.

[TaurusRose]

10 hours ago, Nidratime said:

Just listening to Ron's podcast for the episode -- joined by Matt -- and I kind of disagree with their feeling that, because they didn't spend any time going back and reminding the audience about Colonel Foster, that the viewers wouldn't feel bad about his death. I remembered Foster and I felt bad about his death, especially knowing that Prince Charlie wanted his fighters to give the wounded English assistance in order to garner goodwill with them. Besides that, in this day and age, people are watching episodes from previous seasons via On Demand or streaming or DVDs, so Foster's previous appearance doesn't seem as long ago as it would've if we didn't have all those options to remind ourselves of characters we haven't seen in a while.

You'd think so, but I didn't remember him and needed a reminder.  

[katville]

On 6/17/2016 at 0:33 PM, Nidratime said:

Just listening to Ron's podcast for the episode -- joined by Matt -- and I kind of disagree with their feeling that, because they didn't spend any time going back and reminding the audience about Colonel Foster, that the viewers wouldn't feel bad about his death. I remembered Foster and I felt bad about his death, especially knowing that Prince Charlie wanted his fighters to give the wounded English assistance in order to garner goodwill with them. Besides that, in this day and age, people are watching episodes from previous seasons via On Demand or streaming or DVDs, so Foster's previous appearance doesn't seem as long ago as it would've if we didn't have all those options to remind ourselves of characters we haven't seen in a while.

I completely agree. As someone who has arrived late to the game, I used the slower pace of summer, to read the books and binge watch the show. I absolutely remember Foster. While telling Dougal that the cause was doomed might not have been the most prudent course of action, Dougal's brutality put me firmly in the Fuck Dougal camp. 

Edited August 6, 2016 by katville