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Right wing radio and God-rock stations have been proliferating in my vicinity over the past couple years.   Most annoying is the fact that the right wing stations (which used to be confined to AM) have made the leap to FM; in fact, this year one media company killed the rock format FM station I have been listening to for 35 years and replaced it with right-wing talk radio.

All this to explain that I was just running errands and flipping between rock stations on the FM band when I heard Mika's voice pouring out of my speakers.  Turns out my tuner had landed on one of those right wing stations and the hosts were discussing the Scarboroughs' appeasement.

I didn't listen long, just enough to hear one host say:

Joe Scarborough is the poster child for the towel boy who thinks he's the star quarterback.   The guy imagines he's a mover and shaker.  He's not.  He's a useful idiot for the Democrats and nothing more.

And I thought, He's not even that now.

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4 hours ago, oakville said:

cable news networks plan to cut the salaries of anchors across the board

This explains so much.  
Joe is like Vivre le France! Until the Nazis roll into town and now one minute later he's the leader of Vichy France, so eager to collaborate.

I would imagine he's paying... what, $80,000 a month in alimony two his ex wives?  I guess that's the reason he's so happily shed any suggestion of integrity, that and a thirst for attention.  I wonder what can embarrass Joe?

Are the TV comics making fun of him?

This has to be doing wonders for Mika's KYV efforts.  She's the kind of feminist who negotiates with the patriarchy.  "Now now, ladies.  Let's hear what they have to say.  Things have gotten too divisive."  What a role model.

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1 hour ago, millennium said:

 

All this to explain that I was just running errands and flipping between rock stations on the FM band when I heard Mika's voice pouring out of my speakers.  Turns out my tuner had landed on one of those right wing stations and the hosts were discussing the Scarboroughs' appeasement.

I didn't listen long, just enough to hear one host say:

Joe Scarborough is the poster child for the towel boy who thinks he's the star quarterback.   The guy imagines he's a mover and shaker.  He's not.  He's a useful idiot for the Democrats and nothing more.

And I thought, He's not even that now.

I wonder which guests will still show up on Morning Joe as a result of Mika & Joe's new attitude towards Trump.

It seems to me that Mika & Joe have alienated all factions on the political spectrum.

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oakville

oakville

3 minutes ago, Lowcountry snark said:

This explains so much.  
Joe is like Vivre le France! Until the Nazis roll into town and now one minute later he's the leader of Vichy France, so eager to collaborate.

I would imagine he's paying... what, $80,000 a month in alimony two his ex wives?  I guess that's the reason he's so happily shed any suggestion of integrity, that and a thirst for attention.  I wonder what can embarrass Joe?

Are the TV comics making fun of him?

This has to be doing wonders for Mika's KYV efforts.  She's the kind of feminist who negotiates with the patriarchy.  "Now now, ladies.  Let's hear what they have to say.  Things have gotten too divisive."  What a role model.

Agreed 100 %. I believe Joe's alimony payments stopped but he may still provide financial support for Jack. In the past, Joe bragged that he had both ex-wives sign Non-Disclosure agreements. He might be worried that the details in those agreements become public.

Details of the sexual encounters between  Trump's new Secretary of Defense & a lady have become public despite an NDA.

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Well, it looks like Joe & Mika went down to Maralago over the weekend to kiss the ring.   Their comments this morning made me sick to my stomach.  I have been reading about it all over the internet.  I have been watching this show for close to 10 years but I honestly don't think I can watch it any longer.  Joe & Mika's capitulaton is the last straw!

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Mika & Joe said they didn't want any video or pictures of the meeting with Trump on Friday.

Long-time viewers remember when the photos of Mika & Joe at Mar A Largo on NYE 2016 surfaced. It showed them celebrating with Trump which they denied. Joe had said they went to arrange an interview with Trump in January 2017. That interview never materialized

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Wow, the amount of hate for Joe & Mika on their Twitter pages and on MSNBC's website right now is overwhelming.  If it's anything to go by, they just lost a ton of viewers by joining Trump.  His Mara-lago link is even now on both their Twitter sites. The way Mika has been carrying on about abortion & Roe vs. Wade for the past year was all garbage.  Yeah, she knows her value.  Kissing up to Trump.  I'm curious to see how many of her cohorts at KYV will continue to align with her or dump her ass for being a traitor.  I guess MSNBC doesn't care, as long as it brings in viewers.  They might as well go to Fox at this point.

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millennium

18 minutes ago, Linda956 said:

Wow, the amount of hate for Joe & Mika on their Twitter pages and on MSNBC's website right now is overwhelming.  If it's anything to go by, they just lost a ton of viewers by joining Trump.  His Mara-lago link is even now on both their Twitter sites. The way Mika has been carrying on about abortion & Roe vs. Wade for the past year was all garbage.  Yeah, she knows her value.  Kissing up to Trump.  I'm curious to see how many of her cohorts at KYV will continue to align with her or dump her ass for being a traitor.  I guess MSNBC doesn't care, as long as it brings in viewers.  They might as well go to Fox at this point.

can you please provide a link to the MSNBC comments?

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oakville

oakville

Mika & Joe's pilgrimage to Mar A Lago is being talked about on CTV News in Canada. The host of Power Play said Mika & Joe were hysterical before the election calling them hysterical by describing a vote for Trump as a vote for Hitler, the end of democracy & a vote for a fascist. She can't believe anyone would trust them going forward. Core supporters are betrayed.

The last time Morning Joe was on Canadian news was when Trump tweeted about Mika's bloody facelift at Mar A Largo.

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SeanBug

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A little more insight into the backlash within MSNBC

https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-staffers-lash-out-morning-joe-co-hosts-meeting-trump-disgusting-frankly-unsurprising

No one needs Joe and Mika to meet with Trump to "understand" what he's doing. 

He's seeking revenge. Matt Gaetz as AG is all you need to know. 

What a crock. 

At least Chamberlain did what he did, as dumb as it was, because he thought it would save England from another war and the deaths of millions of young men. 

Joe Scarborough is a sickening craven hypocrite. Mika goes along because she has no spine.

As I've said from day one, Mika doesn't give two shits about anyone but herself.  She makes me sick to my stomach. 

IG Update: Mika has removed all the comments about Mar A Lago, and no one can comment on her IG posts.  

If all this is on the up and up, why are they so afraid of what people are saying? 

 

 

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EtheltoTillie

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10 hours ago, oakville said:

I subscribe to Heilmann's Puck News blog. The media analyst Dylan Byers has been reporting that cable news networks plan to cut the salaries of anchors across the board. Wallace quit CNN because they offered him a big pay cut to stay on TV. Hoda at NBC was not offered a pay increase so she quit the Today show.

Mika & Joe want to stay on TV. Can MSNBC justify paying them $16million per year if ratings are reduced by 50%.

In addition, Joe's credibility has taken a hit this year over his lavish support of Biden & his vilifying of Trump. Mika & Joe are getting roasted on Twitter again.

 

Willie gets Monday off because he hosts the Sunday TV show on NBC. Willie is much more diplomatic on that show than he is on Morning Joe. Today does have Republican viewers.

I think Willie was working  Mondays in the leadup to the election. 

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EtheltoTillie

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I had only been watching this show the last couple of months and hadn't even realized there was a thread here.  I found it today by accident.  Lots of good comments by everyone, as I read the last week's worth.  I especially wanted to see what everyone could possibly say after this morning's mind-boggling announcement. 

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SeanBug

SeanBug

Just now, EtheltoTillie said:

I had only been watching this show the last couple of months and hadn't even known there was a thread here.  I found it today by accident.  Lots of good comments by everyone, as I read the last week's worth.  I especially wanted to see what everyone could possibly say after this morning's mind-boggling announcement. 

Welcome!!!  We're a fun bunch and we give Joe and Mika the snark they so deserve.  It's hard to watch a lot of the show (unless they're not on, then it's a pretty straight forward news/opinion left leaning cable show. 

Some of us think Joe and Mika are planning their exit, and this little foray into betraying viewers and fellow MSNBC staff sounds like they want out sooner rather than later. 

The best part is Fox News and conservatives not buying their bullshit any more than Dems are. 

There's tons of videos we've posted over the years illustrating what a hypocrite Joe is.  He is great at saying one thing and when he's reminded he made shit up or lied about something, he loses his mind and yells at the viewers. 

Good times

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EtheltoTillie

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3 minutes ago, SeanBug said:

Welcome!!!  We're a fun bunch and we give Joe and Mika the snark they so deserve.  It's hard to watch a lot of the show (unless they're not on, then it's a pretty straight forward news/opinion left leaning cable show. 

Some of us think Joe and Mika are planning their exit, and this little foray into betraying viewers and fellow MSNBC staff sounds like they want out sooner rather than later. 

The best part is Fox News and conservatives not buying their bullshit any more than Dems are. 

There's tons of videos we've posted over the years illustrating what a hypocrite Joe is.  He is great at saying one thing and when he's reminded he made shit up or lied about something, he loses his mind and yells at the viewers. 

Good times

I thought Joe was a big hypocrite the day or so after the election when he suddenly took the Dems to task for their handling of the transgender surgeries for prisoners ad.

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millennium

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deck chairs meet titanic

 

 

1 hour ago, SeanBug said:

At least Chamberlain did what he did, as dumb as it was, because he thought it would save England from another war and the deaths of millions of young men. 

Joe is trying to save black women from having to vote in the rain ever again.

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I lasted less than 30 seconds this morning bc I tuned in right on time to Joe doing his performative 'oh let me think about how much I care what the internet says and the answer is...I don't!'. So clever! Allow me to dramatically respond in turn by asking how Joe & Mika manage to proudly be the highest paid middle aged prostitutes on the face of the fucking earth?

9 hours ago, oakville said:

Mika & Joe are the new Mr & Mrs Vichy Quisling ! according to Keith Olbermann

 

https://www.mediaite.com/news/bitterly-divided-mediasphere-unites-to-destroy-joe-and-mika-meeting-with-trump-annals-of-shamelessness/

I wish Olbermann didn't turn into a freaking nutbag bc he has always had Joe's number. My favorite name-calling from this piece : 'Joe “my brain won’t let me be the same person three years in a row” Scarborough'.

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Kemper

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43 minutes ago, chick binewski said:

 

I wish Olbermann didn't turn into a freaking nutbag bc he has always had Joe's number. My favorite name-calling from this piece : 'Joe “my brain won’t let me be the same person three years in a row” Scarborough'.

Keith Olbermann is the reason I started watching MSNBC. His take on Fox News (Bill O'Reilly was always the Worst Person In the World..every single night) was way ahead of its time. I also remember him from the very early days of ESPN. 

 The media reaction to The Twins' humiliating themselves has been surreal. I wonder if the less toadying of the KYV members will desert? It would be like waking up on Christmas morning as a child and finding a pony under the tree. Or as a Senior Citizen of a certain age... waking up beside Paul McCartney...my first real crush.

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SeanBug

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1 hour ago, Skooma said:

Jon Stewart doesn't hold back ... and never will.  He's the best.

He is lambasting Joe and Mika, as well as all Democrats.  Pick a lane, losers. Are we going to fight this or just play possum for four years and hope Trump doesn't notice us?  

The Daily Beast can't pick a lane either. They have "Source Says Trip to Mar a Lago Tots Worth It" and  "Stewart Breaks Down Problem with Joe and Mika Visit". 

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Me from ME

Me from ME

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I had been tapering off these two during the run up to the election. Preferred listening to the Bullwark and Meidas Touch. Of course, I have always turned them off when Mika starts blathering about her vanity project.

Tuned in this morning to see how they were handling the backlash. It appeared to me that there was more than usual tension between them. It seemed as if Mika had not been fully on board with making nice with DJT last weekend. It also seemed as if hypocrite Joe was back pedaling a bit and justifying his recent actions.

Spoiler

Sorry, no tea, can't get rid of this.

 

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SeanBug

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Mika isn't cry talking yet, it's more like "lip quivering stop being so mean" talk. 

Joe is decrying racism.  So you go to the Racism HQ with a gift basket?  

Why can't Joe see that Stewart is the guy calling out the bullshit of the Dems, and Democratic voters are agreeing with HIM.  "Yeah why can't you guys get your shit together and fight the Republicans instead of cowering in the corner looking up a 'norm' to use against the guys who hit you over the head with your rule book". 

THAT'S what Democrats need now. Not you crawling to Mar A Lago with your tail between your legs, claiming "we're going to be double agents and be nice to Trump so then we can use our Vulcan Mind Melding skills to make him be better".   

How's that working out?  TPTB at the network tell you one more stupid stunt like that and you'll be hosting a Wayne's World type cable show from that basement of yours? 

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Lowcountry snark

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SNL will probably skewer them this Saturday.  Rachel or Steph should have on John Stewart and Keith Olberman to just make fun of Mika and Joe.
Their time at the network looks like it's over.  The network looks like it's over.  Non-propaganda politics-as-entertainment doesn't appear to be a viable business model for a major single-theme network.

In six months, Joe will have a beard, shaved sides of his head, drive a grey on grey bronco or an extended cab Jeep Wrangler, carry an AR 15, and trade crypto in between owning the libs on appearances on Joe Rogan.
Who knew he was so fragile?  So brittle? I guess his ex wives and every person who's met him in person.
Cannot wait for the tell all books.

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SeanBug

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Joe is quoted on Mediaite "you can predict the future by shaping the future". 

JFC. 

Seems they're trying to brush off the Trump stuff by attacking Gaetz. That's like giving  Hitler a pass while going after Goebbels. 

Now he's saying some event they went to people were hugging them and saying "tell us we'll be alright". 

Now he's rambling about Clinton. Apparently we all just need to hold on til the next election. 

And finally it's "there's a lot of work to be done".  Al is saying Harris went on Fox so why can't Joe and Mika go to Mar A Lago? 

The stupidity on this show is getting worse by the minute. 

 

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Kemper

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39 minutes ago, tres bien said:

Ha! That’s the pot calling the kettle black 

Oh my gosh, I was just going to post the exact same thing! That was the first thing I thought of when I saw the picture of her and the caption under it. What has happened to her hair? I could make a rug out of it for my cat. (lapping from the shallow end of the pool this morning)

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SeanBug

SeanBug

1 minute ago, Kemper said:

Oh my gosh, I was just going to post the exact same thing! That was the first thing I thought of when I saw the picture of her and the caption under it. What has happened to her hair? I could make a rug out of it for my cat. (lapping from the shallow end of the pool this morning)

I think Megyn is leaning into the Trump surrogate hair extensions club. Kimberly Guilfoyle did the same thing. 

The more bullshit they spew, the longer the extensions get. 

Somebody woke up Noonan, poured a pot of coffee down her and got her to sit upright for 20 minutes, because she's the only person outside the inner sanctum they could find this morning?  Also a charter member of the "Reagan Could Do No Wrong...other than the AIDs thing, the Iran Contra thing, the abolishing the Fairness Doctrine thing , cutting Medicaid, Social Security and Federal Education funding" club. 

 

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oakville

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Joe & Mika are in the NYC studio.

There are jokes about Mika hating Boxing & paying for Starbucks Coffee.

Rev Al wants Trump to come on Morning Joe.

Rev Al didn't meet with Trump after he won in 2016.

Mika & Joe attended a KYV event last night. People hugged them & supported them.

Joe says there is a disconnect between social media and their friends.

Eddie Glaude is worried about them. He is on Twitter. Joe doesn't follow Twitter anymore.

Bill Clinton lost in 1980 & won in 1982. He became President in 1992!

Joe warned Trump about appointing his family friend Matt Gaetz.

Joe says you don't pay for sex with a woman. You just deposit part of your bonus money into their bank account.

Trump could end up losing like Obama did in 2010.

Willie Geist supports Mika & Joe. He will still criticize Trump.

Joe said he was right that the race was tied.It is a 50/50 nation.

 

Dasha Burns ! joined the show with Hans Nicol.

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millennium

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Listen up, Morning Jokers!  Apparently WE are the problem.   We, the Backlash!  A certain wing of the media (hint: not left) is tripping over itself to defend Joe and Mika bowing down before the one they serve (hope they're gonna get what they deserve!)   In the process, they are accusing the naysayers, the backlashers -- that's us, friends and neighbors -- as the reason why our country is fractured right now.   You have to go along to get along, don't we know that?   Joe and Mika have SEEN THE LIGHT (from a nearby tiki torch, no doubt).  Why can't their audience?  It's gaslighting on a major scale, with Scarborough himself asserting there is a YOOGE DISCONNECT between social media and reality.  It's not us, it's you.  Nathan Thurm would be proud.

I didn't watch the show today.   All I had to do was read about it.

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oakville

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52 minutes ago, millennium said:

Listen up, Morning Jokers!  Apparently WE are the problem.   We, the Backlash!  A certain wing of the media (hint: not left) is tripping over itself to defend Joe and Mika bowing down before the one they serve (hope they're gonna get what they deserve!)   In the process, they are accusing the naysayers, the backlashers -- that's us, friends and neighbors -- as the reason why our country is fractured right now.   You have to go along to get along, don't we know that?   Joe and Mika have SEEN THE LIGHT (from a nearby tiki torch, no doubt).  Why can't their audience?  It's gaslighting on a major scale, with Scarborough himself asserting there is a YOOGE DISCONNECT between social media and reality.  It's not us, it's you.  Nathan Thurm would be proud.

I didn't watch the show today.   All I had to do was read about it.

I love your posts. I can't stop laughing at Joe blaming social media for the criticism that they are receiving. If Joe was so confident, why didn't he allow comments on his Twitter feed? Why has the Morning Joe account disabled comments or posted any clips from the show as they usually do?

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millennium

millennium

9 minutes ago, oakville said:

I can't stop laughing at Joe blaming social media for the criticism that they are receiving.

I don't even use social media!  Just yesterday I was bemoaning that the fireworks were happening on Twitter and I can't see it.

Scarborough is saying in effect-- and in this he is consistent (except of course when social media praises him) -- that opinions on social media, and the people from which they flow, are beneath contempt.   He is very Barbara Bush on this point: he will not waste his beautiful mind thinking about social media.

Now, back to reality.  What are the odds Joe's band will be playing Mar-A-Lago on New Year's Eve?

 

15 minutes ago, Kemper said:

I cannot bear to listen to her speak; but I look at her face/hair and envy.

I'm like that with most everybody on TV.  (Not Molly Jong-Fast)

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Lowcountry snark

Lowcountry snark

3 hours ago, millennium said:

that opinions on social media, and the people from which they flow, are beneath contempt. 

I mean, my God, social media is very much the birthplace of The Trump Culture.  It is where the youth and the stupids get their information and have their ridiculous thoughts validated.  The rise of the individual-without-merit, most of Trump's voter base, is due solely to social media.  Everyone is the main character on social media.  On social media Musk, Kennedy, and Trump are deities. 

Of course Scarborough is out of touch and misunderstanding.

https://x.com/KnowYourValue 
They haven't locked this down yet.  She's getting dragged. 

 

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millennium

millennium

I have been reading the comments sections on articles about Joe and Mika's abdication of sanity.   My favorite was some guy who was watching at 6 am Monday morning when they announced the Mar-A-Lago pilgrimage.   He said after seeing that he burned his Morning Joe fleece in a firepit outside.

When you lose the merch-buyers, you're in trouble.

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SeanBug

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Apparently the Mar A Lago meeting was based on fears Joe and Mika have over Trump having them arrested and jailed. 

Funny how there are so many people in the media and yet no one else has gone to Trump and begged him to forgive and move on. 

Does Joe not think MSNBC/NBC/Comcast have lawyers that would fight any and all attempts to punish anyone on the network for covering Trump and reporting what he does? 

Good news! They aren't hypocrites!! They're just your run of the mill cowards! 

https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/19/media/morning-joe-trump-mar-a-lago-meeting-fears/index.html

2 minutes ago, millennium said:

I have been reading the comments sections on articles about Joe and Mika's abdication of sanity.   My favorite was some guy who was watching at 6 am Monday morning when they announced the Mar-A-Lago pilgrimage.   He said after seeing that he burned his Morning Joe fleece in a firepit outside.

When you lose the merch-buyers, you're in trouble.

At least he didn't blow up a case of Bud Light. 

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oakville

oakville

Morning Joe ratings decline after the announcement of a trip to Mar A Largo

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/new-morning-joe-hemorrhaged-viewers-after-announcing-meeting-with-trump/

Comcast also announced that they are spinning off MSNBC today. Will the new company continue to afford to pay Mika & Joe?

Mika & Joe could start a GoFundMe page if they used social media.

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SeanBug

SeanBug

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33 minutes ago, oakville said:

Morning Joe ratings decline after the announcement of a trip to Mar A Largo

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/new-morning-joe-hemorrhaged-viewers-after-announcing-meeting-with-trump/

Comcast also announced that they are spinning off MSNBC today. Will the new company continue to afford to pay Mika & Joe?

Mika & Joe could start a GoFundMe page if they used social media.

Guess JoMika won't have access to the legal team at Comcast after all.  So all the "time for a new approach", "reach out to cool things off", "why wouldn't we meet with the President-elect" was just more of the same bullshit. 

They have no courage of their convictions, as we all know.  And they're not afraid of Trump, they're afraid of being unemployed. 

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