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4 minutes ago, chick binewski said:

Joe and Mika opened this morning by congratulating themselves for their professional integrity, then they thanked Trump voters.

I did not make it to 6:01 today.

I admit it, I looked in because I thought "Matt Gaetz as attorney general???  Oh, this should be good.   I just have to watch this morning, if only for a few minutes ..."

It was like the two of them have been transformed into Stepford Wives.  Without the least bit of irony, they boasted about all the cards and letters they have received from Trump supporters thanking them -- thanking them! -- for their (dare we say it?) fair and balanced reporting on the election.

Mika proceeded in careful monotone to pledge that they will remain impartial as the new administration comes to power and of course, of course they welcome members of the new administration to come on the show and discuss important matters like how to make that big faucet in the mountains easier to turn (okay, okay, so they didn't mention the faucet).

Astounding.   Just fucking astounding.

It's as if they concluded that the 50% of viewers who have abandoned MSNBC must be those with good judgment and a strong instinct for self-preservation, and those who are left are amnesiac schlubs won't hold it against them if they just start pretending like the past ten years never happened.

It was exactly the closure I needed.

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1 hour ago, chick binewski said:

Joe and Mika opened this morning by congratulating themselves for their professional integrity, then they thanked Trump voters.

I did not make it to 6:01 today.

Mika & Joe made a hostage video !

Viewers reached out to Mika & Joe to thank them for reporting the results 

They will be fair & objective .

Joe admitted the story on Gaetz does involve them personally.

Joe did not mention that he no longer allows comments on his Twitter account.

They also did it on the Morning Joe account yesterday.

The House Ethics will be issuing a report on Gaetz.

Gaetz had info about Joe murdering his intern. Trump tweeted about it.

Twitter refused to delete the tweets.

This show is wild !

Mika said she would invite members of the new Trump administration on the show.

Mika wants a face-to-face interview with Trump. ! LOL

Will they ask Rev Al about the $500k donation to the NAN?

https://nypost.com/2024/11/12/us-news/kamala-harris-campaign-gave-500k-to-al-sharptons-civil-rights-group-before-sit-down/

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oakville

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Lemire said Matt is hated across the aisle.

Is this a plot by Trump to let them shoot down Matt.

The ethics probe won't be released because Matt resigned from Congress.

Gaetz lacks integrity. He's a train wreck.

Katty Kay is wearing her gravitas glasses.

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Her instagram is now private, and he has comments turned off on his Twitter.  
Per his tweets, he has indeed pivoted and is on the attack against "woke" and is the poors' voice against Dems.

I am old enough to remember cry-screeching "HE AGREES WITH HITLER," "constitutional norms," and "Madisonian democracy."
Hilarious.

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oakville

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Senator Mullin said he saw videos of the girls that Gaetz slept with . Gaetz bragged about taking ED pills & Red Bull. Yikes.

Morning Joe is becoming x rated content.

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SeanBug

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I  turned it on around 8:05 am to see the 6 am rerun. I caught Mika bringing up the stuff about Joe being involved in the death of his aide, which was completely debunked.  Because Gaetz told Trump and Trump tweeted about it.  Like what five six years ago? 

But of course, we can't just talk about how terrible these cabinet picks are. We have to make it about ourselves.  Am I missing something? Why would you remind people who believe every crackpot rumor about this? 

Joe and Mika are totally shopping themselves to other networks. What other show on MSNBC is courting Trump voters?  Did they not see how this worked out on CNN with their old pal Chris Licht?  

It's like they realize no one is watching so they're just going nuts. 

I did see Claire asking Andrew Weissberg about Gaetz, she seemed like a voice of reason. 

Everyone and their brother knew the minute Gaetz' appointment was announced even hardcore right wing Republicans would be "what the fuck". 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, SeanBug said:

I  turned it on around 8:05 am to see the 6 am rerun. I caught Mika bringing up the stuff about Joe being involved in the death of his aide, which was completely debunked.  Because Gaetz told Trump and Trump tweeted about it.  Like what five six years ago? 

But of course, we can't just talk about how terrible these cabinet picks are. We have to make it about ourselves.  Am I missing something? Why would you remind people who believe every crackpot rumor about this? 

Joe and Mika are totally shopping themselves to other networks. What other show on MSNBC is courting Trump voters?  Did they not see how this worked out on CNN with their old pal Chris Licht?  

It's like they realize no one is watching so they're just going nuts. 

 

 

 

Which network would Mika & Joe go to?

Senator Claire has a list of 11 Senators who will vote against Gaetz. Grassley & Mitch McConnell won't vote for him.

Claire said the Senate won't put up with Trump's nonsense.

Claire said the FBI would do a background check on Gaetz. He won't pass according to Claire.

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SeanBug

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16 minutes ago, oakville said:

Which network would Mika & Joe go to?

At this point if Newsmax matched their salaries I wouldn't be remotely surprised if they went there. 

Have TPTB told Joe and Mika to tone down the rhetoric about Trump? Because the rest of the network didn't get that memo. 

Who knows what's going on, other than they are showing what shallow, ridiculous people they are.  They have no principles. 

And what is with this "all the cards we are getting from Trump voters, thanking us" bullshit??   Thanking them for what? Spending four years calling Trump "Hitler", a "fascist", etc? 

At 9 am watched for a sec, they showed some Congressman saying "if Trump tells us to jump, we say how high?" 

Joe said it's sycophancy and some would say it's a cult, but "not us". 

Next thing we know he'll be saying "we never said anything bad about Trump". 

Gaslighting 101. 

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Abigail Spanberger joined the show. She is running for Governor of Virginia.

She worked for the CIA. She is opposed to Tulsi.

Abigail worries about Tulsi finding out about the CIA's sources & methods. She could help Putin.

Other countries won't share info with the USA.

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Pike Ludwell

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Mika's "thing" this show was no one should be surprised about any of these appointments. Her thinking is voters knew this would happen and chose this. So, I guess, she's implying, not just don't be shocked, but move on?? When she gets this sort of "thing" going on in her head nothing anyone can say will dispel it. People over and over were saying these picks go beyond what anyone, even repubs, expected or voted for. Yet Mika persists with this obsession.

Later edit. The RFK Jr app't this afternoon in fact IS something no one should be surprised at. Trump and RFK have been saying this for weeks. She should not lump this in with her belief no one should be surprised about Gaetz.

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millennium

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7 hours ago, oakville said:

Mika & Joe made a hostage video !

No pun intended, but you captured it perfectly!

6 hours ago, SeanBug said:

It's like they realize no one is watching so they're just going nuts. 

Yes, desperation in real time. 

 

6 hours ago, SeanBug said:

And what is with this "all the cards we are getting from Trump voters, thanking us" bullshit??   Thanking them for what? Spending four years calling Trump "Hitler", a "fascist", etc?

Sir, just a note to thank you for placing your balls in Mika's purse for safekeeping.   They would have only caused you great frustration over the next several years.   On the bright side, sir, you can safely use less product in your hair now, as the risk of mussing your pompadour will decrease commensurately with the decline of your self-righteousness.

 

 

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SeanBug

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Like I said earlier, I don't know what's going on with Morning Joe, but I just watched a little of Deadline: White House. Nicole and Rachel Maddow are not saying "well let's just wait and see what happens", or "give them a chance to have a confirmation hearing, yada yada",  or "welcome Trump voters, if we know anything, you guys love two women calling out all the bullshit Donald Trump has done and is doing to dismantle the US Constitution and the three equal branches of government".   They aren't re litigating the election or what happened. They are full on "JFC what the hell is happening??!!?" 

I guess Joe and Mika have 100% gone rogue. There hasn't been a directive to lower the temperature on the rhetoric to the network. 

Let's see how they react to RFK Jr being named as Secretary of HHS. Can't wait to see that confirmation hearing. 

 "Well he IS a Kennedy, Mika, and you know I've always wanted to visit the Kennedy Compound in Hyannis Port. 

Joke's on you, dumbass. The Kennedys have disowned him. 

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2 hours ago, SeanBug said:

 

I guess Joe and Mika have 100% gone rogue. There hasn't been a directive to lower the temperature on the rhetoric to the network. 

Let's see how they react to RFK Jr being named as Secretary of HHS. Can't wait to see that confirmation hearing. 

 "Well he IS a Kennedy, Mika, and you know I've always wanted to visit the Kennedy Compound in Hyannis Port. 

Joke's on you, dumbass. The Kennedys have disowned him. 

Joe admitted to getting free flights to Martha's Vineyard from Steve Rattner in his private jet before they took over the Brezezinski compound in Maine.

Mika & Joe were very popular with the paparazzi when visiting the Cape Cod area.

Joe acknowledged changing his wardrobe and hairstyle when he was on the Cape. Tourists would approach him and ask for autographs.

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13 hours ago, oakville said:

Which network would Mika & Joe go to?

Claire said the Senate won't put up with Trump's nonsense.

I would not be surprised if they go to Fox. Think about it .. Joe is a true Conservative (in a hushed, revered tone); and would relish being able to bloviate on his years in Congress. Mika would probably have to go back to the sheath dresses and stilettos. Maybe she can take her KYV schtick with her. We all win. 

Claire....have you met this recent group of Senators? 

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chick binewski

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I do remember Lawrence O'Donnell reading RFKJ for absolute filth last year, blasting him without mercy for his awful judgment, his terrible conspiracy theories, his sex diary, his misuse of his own privilege, his victimhood, et cetera. It was accurate and it was glorious. Joe went on air the next morning to say he knew RFKJ, stating he was (in the language of men who have the privilege of not having to care about the character of people in their circle) "a good guy". 

I'm gonna take a big leap and guess that Joe will open with something similar  tomorrow. 

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Looks like they had more thank you cards to read this morning. 

At least it's two people who are calling out the bullshit.  Lemire and Heileman are hosting. 

I guess Joe couldn't take being called out for his "Bobby's a great guy" nonsense.  Lemire is reading a NEW YORK POST article calling RFK Jr insane. 

And we've all completely forgotten about the batshit affair he had with Olivia Nuzzi. 

Heileman and Lemire are stating unequivocally:  The insanity is the point. 

I have to say, RFK Jr scares me the most if he gets in.  He will stop infectious disease research. If the government doesn't approve vaccines, we don't get them for free as a gov't health program.  He will dismantle the NIH.  Remember COVID?  We're heading into flu season and this asshat could be in charge of getting vaccinations out to the public. 

Guess Joe doesn't care about that as he and Meeks and their wealth aren't affected.  

I'm sure RFK Jr will get the price of eggs and butter lower. Idiots. 

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On 11/17/2024 at 12:21 AM, millennium said:

Olivia was the batshit party in that situation.  I will never be able to figure that one out.

I think there was more than enough batshittery to go around in this situation. 

 

 

 

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SeanBug

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7 hours ago, oakville said:

Here's a clip of one of Joe's speeches from when he was in Congress. He was a strong supporter of the 10 commandments being displayed in schools.

Even the AI robot knows Joe is talking out his ass

Madison emphasized that religion was a matter of individual conscience and could not be directed by the government in any way. 

Joe the courts are part of the government, and the governor of Alabama insisting the courts display the Ten Commandments, which are part of religion, goes against what Madison said. 

Joe, no matter how you lie and twist things, the people know the truth. 

 

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oakville

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Today is a historic day on Morning Joe.

Mika & Joe are wearing fleece tops today.

Joe is impressed with Josh Allen running for a touchdown.

The Buffalo Bills beat the KC Chiefs.

Mika & Joe heard from people who were worried about Trump.

Mika & Joe were invited to Mar A Largo to meet President Trump.

Mika & Joe agreed to restart communications. !

Joe explained his differences with Trump.

Mika admitted that 80 million Americans didn't care about January 6th or election denialism.

Joe wants both parties to work together.

Joe said top Democrats told Joe that they were open to a new approach.

Mika said personal attacks don't work. Mika is afraid of people going on trial.

Mika said Clinton & Trump benefitted from being on trial.

Mika said she would speak truth to power.

Joe said they will not defend Trump.

Mika & Joe have made a second hostage video !

They are both reading from a Teleprompter.

Joe called Trump the day after the Trump assassination attempt. This was not disclosed at the time.

David Ignatieff admitted he also spoke to Trump.

I bet that MSNBC ordered Mika & Joe to do this. Viewers over the past 7 years will be shocked at Mika & Joe's behaviour.

 

 

 

David admitted that when people view journalists as partisans they lose trust in them.

Joe said Trump will have a consequential presidency.

 

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https://www.mediaite.com/tv/time-for-a-new-approach-joe-scarborough-and-mika-brzezinski-reveal-personal-visit-with-trump-to-restart-communications/

Mika & Joe were praised by Fox & Friends!

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-friends-praise-most-magnanimous-trump-for-meeting-with-joe-and-mika-after-they-called-him-facist-and-hitler/

Meacham supports them talking to Trump. It is their patriotic duty!

Lemire looks stone-faced. How will Morning Joe function without hours of personal insults ?

 

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Meacham doesn't want viewers to tune out. Ratings are important for advertising revenues.

Joe supports Rubio & Ratcliffe.

Joe talked about Reagan after his landslide election in 1980.

Joe said people are scared about Tulsi. She met with Syrians. Other countries won't share information with Tulsi.

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Lemire said people are afraid of Trump. Democrats have to do soul-searching.

Lemire said he will be clear eyed. He doesn't want his new job on Morning Joe to be compromised.

Joe is the Neville Chamberlain of cable talk show hosts. He met with Hitler before WW2. Peace in our time.

Joe will protect his viewers. LOL

 

 

Joe admitted that Democrats who went after Trump turned him into a martyr. He never said this during the past 4 years when he was gleeful about every legal problem he had over 4 years.

Mika told Joe not to look at his phone.

E Jean Carroll will no longer be a guest speaker at Know Your Value in Dubai.

Ann Selzer is retiring after her Iowa poll showed Harris winning Iowa by 3 points. She missed by 16 points.

Joe has yet to disclose his relationship with Matt Gaetz & his family.

Gaetz took over Joe's district in Florida as well as his hairstyle.

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SeanBug

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13 minutes ago, oakville said:

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/time-for-a-new-approach-joe-scarborough-and-mika-brzezinski-reveal-personal-visit-with-trump-to-restart-communications/

Mika & Joe were praised by Fox & Friends!

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-friends-praise-most-magnanimous-trump-for-meeting-with-joe-and-mika-after-they-called-him-facist-and-hitler/

Meacham supports them talking to Trump. It is their patriotic duty!

Lemire looks stone-faced. How will Morning Joe function without hours of personal insults ?

 

Holy Shit .   So yeah this is CNN all over again, trying to placate Trump and his cronies for ratings.  Until they make one misstep and Trump attacks Mika or calls Joe a murderer and we're off to the races yet again.  Of course Trump was pleasant. He loves it when he beats his enemies into submission.  

Personally I like The Daily Show's take on Trump's second term.  "Fuck around and find out". In other words, you wanted this nightmare, it's all yours.  

 

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oakville

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2 minutes ago, SeanBug said:

Holy Shit .   So yeah this is CNN all over again, trying to placate Trump and his cronies for ratings.  Until they make one misstep and Trump attacks Mika or calls Joe a murderer and we're off to the races yet again.  Of course Trump was pleasant. He loves it when he beats his enemies into submission.  

Personally I like The Daily Show's take on Trump's second term.  "Fuck around and find out". In other words, you wanted this nightmare, it's all yours.  

 

Joe was outraged at Ted Cruz when he supported Trump after Trump called his wife ugly. Now Joe said it's okay that Trump called him a murderer & mocked Mika's plastic surgery. Trump also called the founder of KYV, which is the gold standard of women's empowerment groups, "Dumb as a box of rocks"

Hegseth denies the sexual assault investigation. She was married and couldn't explain to her husband why she didn't come back to her hotel room. The woman couldn't find her way back to her husband's hotel room. This is messy.

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oakville

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Joe said Trump has the right to pick people for his cabinet. The Senate has to advise and consent.

Tulsi, Matt & Pete are concerning picks

Joe said people told him that Clinton didn't have the character to be president. He was eating breakfast with his kids.

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oakville

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Joe started shouting at Elise Jordan. Everyone knew that it was wrong for the USA to withdraw troops from Afghanistan before civilians. Joe said the military told Biden not to do it.

 

Joe's ipad went off with a commercial.

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I wish I could quote everyone's comments and applaud.  I saw the news of The Twins about-face (putting it kindly) on Mediate. I think Oakville's comment on Joe being the Neville Chamberlain of cable talk show hosts is one of my favorites because it made me snicker and pissy at the same time. Joe is an opportunist with a massive ego to boot. 

Surely the network would not make The Twins do the turnaround...would they? Joe is bigger than the network! I wonder if any other hosts will get onboard the Surrender Dorothy Train.

David Iggy saying that Tulsi and Pete don't have government experience... is his only concern about them? Joe wants viewers to read The New York Post? I think this is one of the most egregious, insulting things he has ever said. That is who he thinks we are. And this I will never, ever be okay with.

 

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7 minutes ago, Kemper said:

 

Surely the network would not make The Twins do the turnaround...would they? Joe is bigger than the network! I wonder if any other hosts will get onboard the Surrender Dorothy Train.

David Iggy saying that Tulsi and Pete don't have government experience... is his only concern about them? Joe wants viewers to read The New York Post? I think this is one of the most egregious, insulting things he has ever said. That is who he thinks we are. And this I will never, ever be okay with.

 

I subscribe to Heilmann's Puck News blog. The media analyst Dylan Byers has been reporting that cable news networks plan to cut the salaries of anchors across the board. Wallace quit CNN because they offered him a big pay cut to stay on TV. Hoda at NBC was not offered a pay increase so she quit the Today show.

Mika & Joe want to stay on TV. Can MSNBC justify paying them $16million per year if ratings are reduced by 50%.

In addition, Joe's credibility has taken a hit this year over his lavish support of Biden & his vilifying of Trump. Mika & Joe are getting roasted on Twitter again.

 

4 minutes ago, ButterQueen said:

I’m done with this show.  They stand for nothing.  
Wonder where Willie was?

Willie gets Monday off because he hosts the Sunday TV show on NBC. Willie is much more diplomatic on that show than he is on Morning Joe. Today does have Republican viewers.

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millennium

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Remember that scene in Braveheart where Wallace gets knocked off his horse by the black knight ... then when the knight moves in for the kill Wallace pulls the knight's helmet off and discovers it's really his comrade-in-arms Robert The Bruce?

 

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