NFL Thread

[Carey]

Something that has come to mind.  The Dallas Cowboys have been talked about a lot.  I get it, but there are reasons why it isn't necessary to discuss that team from the Lone Star State.

 

Why is it that every time they come up there is nothing positive within the discussion?  Something that came to my mind; it's amazing, and kind of sad really.

[merylinkid]

10 hours ago, Carey said:

Why is it that every time they come up there is nothing positive within the discussion?  Something that came to my mind; it's amazing, and kind of sad really.

because Jerry Jones still owns the team.   Been a Dallas fan since the 70s and I am the one not saying anything positive about the team.

[shoregirl]

 

Cooper Kupp stays in the NFC West.

 

[Black Knight]

So now there's serious talk that the Vikings may end up with Rodgers. I'm sure he'd rather go there over the Giants or Steelers, but if the Vikings sign him they are even bigger idiots than the Giants and Steelers. The latter two teams do not have their franchise QB already on the roster and they are not in contention for a Super Bowl next season (with or without Rodgers), so while it would still be dumb to bring him on, at least it wouldn't interfere with their franchise QB's development or muck up team chemistry during a potential Super Bowl run.

[Carey]

Couldn't agree more.  If there's a need for someone in the even that McCarthy isn't the guy, I get it.  But then you franchise Darnold if that's the case, period

[roamyn]

3 hours ago, Carey said:

Couldn't agree more.  If there's a need for someone in the even that McCarthy isn't the guy, I get it.  But then you franchise Darnold if that's the case, period

I heard they offered Darnold just a tad less than Seattle.  Considering JJ McCarthy may come back & start this season (tho I think he's not a good NFL caliber QB, the Viking did pick him in the first round), and less money offered, it's not surprising Ssm went to Seattle.  So yeah, all this Rogers BS could've been avoided if they'd have franchised the latter.

Edited March 17 by roamyn

[roamyn]

So it turns out the Browns DID screw over the Bengals.  And just like Dallas, Cincinnati has most of their money tied up in three players.

And just like Dallas they have little to no Defense.

Edited March 17 by roamyn

[Carey]

21 hours ago, roamyn said:

And just like Dallas they have little to no Defense.

And unlike Dallas they have a great offensive core that will put them in contention.

And unlike Dallas they have a great defensive player that is closer to a return to complete the so-called trifecta.  Not zero or 100% but it's more than what Dallas has had defensively & will have going forward

[Carey]

[bosawks]

Brandon Graham retired today.

Please pour a cup out for one of the most likable people to ever play professional sports in Philadelphia.

“BG out, baby!”

Edited March 18 by bosawks

[shoregirl]

3 hours ago, bosawks said:

Brandon Graham retired today.

Please pour a cup out for one of the most likable people to ever play professional sports in Philadelphia.

“BG out, baby!”

He's is the longest tenured player in Eagles history and a legendary trash talker .

 

[Carey]

Total lock for the Canton Class of 2030?

[merylinkid]

Vikings today said they are not interested in Rodgers.   Finally a team with some sense.

Now can Rodgers disappear forever?   Of course I keep waiting for Favre to disappear and yet he keeps appearing on my tv.   

[roamyn]

17 hours ago, merylinkid said:

Now can Rodgers disappear forever?   Of course I keep waiting for Favre to disappear and yet he keeps appearing on my tv.   

The Steelers are not a stupid organization,  I don't understand why they're waiting to just re-sign Wilson, and stop letting Roger's hold them hostage. 

[Carey]

After thinking about the above for several seconds, coupled with how the Steelers have made it known that they're moving on from Russell Wilson, I'm in the just sign Russ back already.

Forget Aaron Rodgers and move on.  Yes, A-Rod is better but technically speaking, Russ is younger, and while he can't move, neither can Rodgers today.  He still has a deep ball so there's that.

One of the reasons why they lost every one of their games down the stretch is because the teams that were on their schedule hardly ever lose.  The winning percentage of Baltimore, Kansas City, & Philadelphia was outstanding.

It is a possibility that the league backloads the Steelers schedule again, and this time, in addition to still starting Week One on the road, they'll finish the last two weeks on the road.  Games against the Lions Tigers and Bears are going to be brutal, but at least they don't have the Eagles or KC this year.  Although they host Buffalo & Minnesota, both of those spell loss today.

In the event that things are even out for Pittsburgh, they can probably manage better.  Still 9 or 10 wins as the ceiling and either missing the playoffs or losing yet another wildcard game they trail by 21 plus.  The fact is, just sign Russ.  Who cares if you "parted ways" with him.  Other than Minnesota or New York, not much of a market, and people often reconcile anyway

[Black Knight]

The NFL is considering tweaks to the new kick-off format.

Interesting info from the linked article: The league made the changes last season because the season before that had the lowest rate of kickoff returns in league history, including zero in the Super Bowl. The new kickoff resulted in the second lowest return rate, but did result in more longer returns since 2016 and the most TDs since 2021. So things are going in the right direction with the new format, it just needs a bit of fine-tuning.

[Carey]

Black Knight, I know you simply linked to that article, and thus my next comment is not directed at you.  About tweaks to the new kick-off format...

Survey says: I hate it.

[Black Knight]

It still looks weird to me after a season, although I didn't watch that many games. But today's kickers just have too strong of legs for the old format to be viable anymore.

[mojoween]

So.  Jameis, huh?

[bluegirl147]

Well fuck that means the Steelers are going to end up with Rodgers. I'm at a loss to explain their QB moves since Ben retired.  We go from having two QBs worthy of starting to this.

[Carey]

The Steelers are a mess.

[Salacious Kitty]

So are the GMen. Winston has me  shaking my head. 

I guess he's not Aaron Rodgers, so yay?

[Marley]

Jameis Winston? What a joke. Interception time.

[roamyn]

On 3/23/2025 at 2:09 AM, Marley said:

Jameis Winston? What a joke. Interception time.

As fun as he was last year, I agree.

[Carey]

I expected Daboll to get to the point of looking for a new job before the 2026 Draft.

That's the 2026 NFL Draft...NOT the 2025 Draft

[mojoween]

WHAT IS HAPPENING

[Salacious Kitty]

And the twist! Russ to the GMen on a one year, $21M deal. 

[Salacious Kitty]

And Diggs to the Pats! 

[AimingforYoko]

You know the Eagles are quaking in their cleats.

[Black Knight]

There really wasn't much left in free agent QBs. The Giants will draft a QB this year and are just picking up a couple of the remaining bodies to be bridge QBs/fill out the QB room. Winston is getting backup money to be a Giant for two seasons while Wilson only has $10.5 million guaranteed to play one season, potentially doubled in incentives if he turns out to have a really surprising amount left in the tank, which is unlikely. The plan seems clear: Draft a QB, let him sit and learn from Wilson for a season while competing with Winston to be the first backup, and then the following season he takes over as primary QB while Winston is first backup and Wilson has either retired or signed with yet another team.

The Titans will probably take Cam Ward, so I'm wondering if the Giants' seeming plan to take a QB who they will have mostly sit the first year means they're going to take Jaxson Dart.  I can't imagine drafting Shedeur Sanders with the idea of sitting him for a year, because his father would create too much drama in the media.

[Carey]

Plus, it's a decent bet that Shedeur will be gone before New York gets a chance to get him

[roamyn]

Shit that means we're getting Shadeur.  Myles said he knew the Browns plans for QB, and th at was a factor for signing that massive extension. 

Another Browns screw up at QB.  We could been in the Playoffs regularly with Baker.

At least we're not Pissburgh.

[Carey]

Playoff bound with Mayfield still under center...on a regular basis?  Eh..I don't think so.  Maybe semi-regularly; Baker has been very good since his exit.  However, he's playing with several hall of fame players, which does aid him.  It would aid anybody, if they're capable of playing the position at a high level.

Sanders might work, he might not.  I don't think I'd bet on Pickett being a better answer than Sanders.  It does help that the coaching will be good enough, but it does not help that Haslam will find a way to wreck things when it's unnecessary to do so.

The good news is that Cleveland has realized the importance of offense in the NFL & made moves to get it right.  While not the best or correct decisions, at least there's legitimate focus on that side of the ball

[merylinkid]

Russell Wilson to the Giants

 

hahahahahahahaahahaa.   

 

Oh my, its so nice to know there is a team more screwed up than the Cowboys.  

 

As for Shadeur Sanders to the Browns, have fun with his dad.   He's not good enough to put up with the circus that comes with him.   

[Fukui San]

lol @ no one wanting Rodgers 

[mojoween]

Touchbacks permanently to the 35 yard line?  Fuck outta here with that.

[Fukui San]

Something that occurred to me to look into. Tom Brady went to the Super Bowl 10 times, facing nine different QBs. Looking at those opposing QB's by career passer rating, we get this:

1. Mahomes 102.1 (Scored 9 pts vs. Brady's team in Super Bowl)
2. Russell Wilson 99.8 (24)
3. Goff 95.7(!) (3)
4. Warner 93.7 (17)
5. Matt Ryan 93.6 (28)
6. Foles 86.2 (41)
7. McNabb 85.6 (21)
8. Eli Manning 84.1 (14, 21)
9. Delhomme 81.3 (29)

It's interesting that the two QBs who beat Brady's teams were two of the objectively worst QBs that he played against, and that the higher rated QBs and offenses were ones that the Pats and Bucs most completely shut down.

Aside from the Bucs/Chiefs blowout and the 13-3 Pats/Rams game, every other game was a one score affair. Most of them could easily have gone the other way if not for some truly iconic mind-boggling plays (Helmet catch, Butler INT, Edelman deflection catch, Mario Manningham sideline catch/Welker drop). Truthfully only the McNabb Pats/Eagles game seemed relatively weighted in the Pats' favor throughout.

Brady won the Super Bowl in which he passed for the fewest yards (145 vs. the 2002 Rams) and scored the fewest points (13-3, Rams), and lost the game where he passed for the most yards (505 vs. the Foles Eagles)

[Carey]

Eh, I think that second Rams game could've gone the other way too.  Well, if valid luck came for Los Angeles.  While the outcome ended with a 2-score margin, that was pretty close throughout most of the game.  No one had decent offensive success throughout the game.

Nevertheless, great stuff.  Rather coincidental but one QB doesn't really beat the other; they only outduel one another.  One thing that's more baffling (or tremendous) is he losses in the AFC Title game opposite the same guy aren't even his worst performances in the conference game, despite being on the road unlike the one home loss.

SB 53 is IMHO a decent 2nd in terms of the Big Game (behind 25).

[mojoween]

Thinking about today’s world, do you think that anyone could do now what the Irsay’s did 41 years ago?

How did that work anyways?  Did they build a stadium *after* they moved?

[Fukui San]

In baseball the A's just left Oakland without having their future forever home in place. Is that what you had in mind?

[baldryanr]

3 hours ago, mojoween said:

How did that work anyways?  Did they build a stadium *after* they moved?

Indianapolis had already built the Hoosier Dome (later the RCA dome) - after all, if you build it, they will come.

[mojoween]

4 hours ago, Fukui San said:

In baseball the A's just left Oakland without having their future forever home in place. Is that what you had in mind?

Sorta, but Oakland knew they weren’t playing in their new home for a couple of years.  Baltimore had to play football in six months.

[mojoween]

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