S10.E24: Semi-Final Results 2

[QTBlueMoon]

Let's not forget Tom Papa (comedian) who was robbed of the win by the "dog show".  Tom appeared on many shows and is now host of game show in syndication.

Sorry, MsTree, it wasn't Tom Papa who lost to "The Olate Dogs", it was Tom Kotter.  Tom Papa, host of "Boom", was never on AGT

[Commando Cody]

I was happy that the dogs won. 

[Kromm]

Sorry, MsTree, it wasn't Tom Papa who lost to "The Olate Dogs", it was Tom Kotter.  Tom Papa, host of "Boom", was never on AGT

Hah. I wish it was "Kotter", because then he might be 25% as funny as Gabe Kaplan. It's "Cotter".

 

Cotter isn't bad. He's just kind of boring and vanilla. Not a million dollar act. The only comedian they've had that comes even close to that (and still falls short) was Dan Naturman. Who is a Jon Lovitz clone (thus why he falls short, since Jon Lovitz is still walking this planet).

[MsTree]

Ah yes, Tom Papa from the great "Tom Papa and Tom Mama" gang, who could forget him? I believe thats the same year we had William Overtell and David Baldguy in the top 5 as well.

 

I'm just going to asume someone slipped you bad mushrooms

 

Papa, Kotter, Cotter....who gives a fuck? You knew who I was talking about. You didn't have to 'shroom-shame me....

[marketdoctor]

That makes me wonder who, of this season's crop, will have the best post-show career.

 

Piff was already doing OK, but also has a small split if he wins (many "solo" magicians have a stage manager, booking agent, etc.; he's also got Mr. Piffles.)  Even without the million, he'll probably get a small boost out of this show.

 

The young singers might some more gigs, and I could see Freelusion getting a commercial deal for perfume or luxury cars. 

 

Drew Lynch I could see being part of an enseble act--I know some of the acts go on the AGT tour, and there are some AGT LIVE shows in Las Vegas, but I don't know how acts get picked for that.  He could have fun interacting with Ira and Miriam, for example.  Likewise the multimedia acts could do something more for the ladder guy. 

 

Other acts don't pair up so well; I wouldn't want to see The Regurgitator and a magic act really close, just because then I'd be looking for the trick even when it's not.

(I still think the Regurgitator does a variety of methods, but I've been wrong before.)

[saber5055]

Radio show hosts were talking about The Regurgitator this a.m. on their radio show. I just caught part of what they were saying, but it sounded like TR was on the weekend The Today show. Does anyone know? One of the hosts said the show was on as he was fixing breakfast for his little kids, and he was appalled. He wondered how many kids would end up in the emergency room after imitating him. And that's a really good point, one I hadn't thought of before. We know it's an illusion, but a five-year-old does not.

 

The dog act that won ... talk about Howard and other judges harping on an act not repeating itself. The Olathe Dogs did the same tricks over and over again. I saw them on another show after they won and it was the same act AGAIN. Yet they won. Go figure.

 

I'm not complaining about the acts, but I am complaining about judges saying acts need to change it up as an excuse instead of just saying "no" to them. Go see Britney Spears' Vegas act once a week for a month and you'd see the same thing every time. Judges are just so lopsided about those they criticize and those they do not.

Edited September 14, 2015 by saber5055

[Indy]

I'm not complaining about the acts, but I am complaining about judges saying acts need to change it up as an excuse instead of just saying "no" to them. Go see Britney Spears' Vegas act once a week for a month and you'd see the same thing every time. Judges are just so lopsided about those they criticize and those they do not.

 

ITA.  I feel like some of the acts, the more "variety" acts and the danger acts, are always told to make things bigger, bolder, more dangerous.  Go higher, use more hoops, add fire! Then often when an act does go bigger/higher/whateverer and it backfires then the judges pan them.  But they rarely tell the singers or the comedians that they need to do something different or more spectacular.  Or if a singer does get told he sounds the same every week and he switches it up the next week, the judges will then pan him for not staying true to himself even though he was following their advice.  It's got to be super frustrating for the contestants to do what they're told and either have it be a disaster or get panned for it - but the risk is ignoring the advice and then get told they're boring.  

[Frankenstein123]

Papa, Kotter, Cotter....who gives a fuck? You knew who I was talking about. You didn't have to 'shroom-shame me....

 

There's no shame in doing mushrooms, especially with some steak and rice. Now if I would have glue-shamed you THAT would have been a disaster. In all seriousness though, I didn't mean to offend you and I'm sorry if I did, it was meant to be a playful/jokey response. I offer you this cup filled with half-melted chocolate as an apology.

 

Radio show hosts were talking about The Regurgitator this a.m. on their radio show. I just caught part of what they were saying, but it sounded like TR was on the weekend The Today show. Does anyone know? One of the hosts said the show was on as he was fixing breakfast for his little kids, and he was appalled. He wondered how many kids would end up in the emergency room after imitating him. And that's a really good point, one I hadn't thought of before. We know it's an illusion, but a five-year-old does not.

 

 

I asked my bestest friend in the whole wide world *coughgooglecough* and he helped me find this link: http://www.today.com/video/want-to-find-out-what-a-professional-regurgitator-does-are-you-sure-524567107757. Apparently he's just doing the coin trick again.

 

As for kids trying to copy him, that's a danger with ANY act and I feel the responsibility lies with the parent to teach their child what is okay and what is not. Stevie himself always starts by saying "Do not attempt to do what Stevie is about to do" and they even have "Do not try this at home" written right underneath him even when he's drinking soap. So they've thought about it and done their best, the rest is up to the parent. They can't ban dangerous acts from TV simply because kids might copy them, they would have to get rid of most of them that way (Whats to say kids dont try climbing up ladders, locking dogs into boxes and throwing knives at eachother?)

 

ITA.  I feel like some of the acts, the more "variety" acts and the danger acts, are always told to make things bigger, bolder, more dangerous.  Go higher, use more hoops, add fire! Then often when an act does go bigger/higher/whateverer and it backfires then the judges pan them.  But they rarely tell the singers or the comedians that they need to do something different or more spectacular.  Or if a singer does get told he sounds the same every week and he switches it up the next week, the judges will then pan him for not staying true to himself even though he was following their advice.  It's got to be super frustrating for the contestants to do what they're told and either have it be a disaster or get panned for it - but the risk is ignoring the advice and then get told they're boring.  

 

Yeah, it's been a problem from day one. I feel it's less to do with what the judges want and more to do with what they think the public wants. Considering how badly variety acts did in the first 5 seasons or so and how easy it was for the singers to get through, the judges started to try and push them further and further in hopes of making them more appealing to the voters. The variety acts always need to work harder and come up with new stuff CONSTANTLY to impress people, but singers can just redo their audition song for the finals(happens a LOT in Britains got talent) and be praised like the next coming of Jesus. It's unfair, but  history has shown that people simply do not vote otherwise.

[marketdoctor]

 

It's unfair, but  history has shown that people simply do not vote otherwise.

 

I think it comes from the word "variety."  Consider two acts:

 

1.  A singer who can look and sound 95% as good as your favorite singer.

2.  A singer who sings their own stuff, and you like them 90% as much as your favorite signer.

 

Personally, I'm more likely to wonder "what else" the first act can do, because originality matters.  History shows us I'm more likely to support the second act, even though I enjoy the second act 5% more, and less likely to want them to do something else.  Right now I call that the "Fight Song" effect; people say they like Rachel Platten's music, but wouldn't remember she sang "1,000 Ships."  Music influences our brains differently than other kinds of entertainment...which is why it's time to have a "no singers" rule (except for special guests, because Rachel Platten is a great singer.)

[Lonesome Rhodes]

It's an age-old conundrum for any musical act:  Do your own stuff/be your own person, or play to the middle, especially at first, in hopes you will be given a second listen when you can do your own stuff.

 

Singers hoping to use the AGT stage to be themselves are doomed.  It's a mass generic/vanilla audience.  Votes are everything.  What frosts me are those who repeat themselves in later rounds.  You can't, and aren't made to, sing four or five different songs?  Get off my stage. 

[Eric7100]

The Special Guests For The AGT Finale REVEALED:

 

http://www.facebook.com/nbcagt/photos/a.10150241297874760.332877.10646929759/10153408121489760

[Frankenstein123]

The Special Guests For The AGT Finale REVEALED:

 

http://www.facebook.com/nbcagt/photos/a.10150241297874760.332877.10646929759/10153408121489760

Rachel Platten, Terry Fator, Mat Franco, Penn & Teller sounds like a fantastic lineup...Wait WHAT? Freelusion? Special guests? What did NBC just panic once they realised all the stage preparation they had done for Freelusion was going to go to waste? "We spent like 5 bucks on that second robot AND made it purple this time, GOD DAMN YOU VOTERS. Okay okay, lets just bring them back as special guests, nobody will remember who they were next week anyways, make them all wear bald caps and moustaches or something."

[Eric7100]

Siro-A should've been invited back, too!

[UsernameGoesHere]

Can Aiden Sinclair be a special guest?!

[bluepiano]

Howard didn't X Ira because he did the same thing. Or rather, he did it because switching to a full-on singing act was a bad direction to take and he thought it was a horrible move. So really, he X'd Ira for NOT doing what he'd done the first couple of times, which was at least humorous.

 

I just rewatched on YouTube to check that I'd remembered this correctly.The first musical production number Ira did was "It's Not Unusual," with the submarine nautical theme. Howard did not X that. He Xed the following Ira appearance, which was another big production number on "Copacabana." That's when Howard said that it was the same thing all over again.

 

Personally, I enjoyed the banter between Ira and Miriam more than the Muppet style musical numbers, and I thought that the intro videos (like Miriam trying to give Ira a make-over) were hilarious. But I can see the people behind Ira thinking, we've got to "go big," or else the judges (especially Howard) would be saying that it's not a "million dollar act."

Edited September 15, 2015 by bluepiano

[marketdoctor]

I think the reason The Weekend wasn't invited was because Mountain Praise Band was sent home.  (I suspected Rachel Platten when I heard that cover of Fight Song.)  Penn & Teller is always good news.