AnimeMania May 2 Share May 2 The big night of the gala has arrived, but nothing goes as planned for Birdie, Catherine, Brett and Alice. Premiere Date: May 2, 2025 NBC 8pm Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153375-s01e11-monaco-under-the-stars/
bunnyface May 3 Share May 3 Was this on for anyone? I don't know if the preemption was local or national. Just tell me who they killed already.... 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153375-s01e11-monaco-under-the-stars/#findComment-8652008
Absolom May 3 Share May 3 (edited) I'll try to check. It won't be on here for 45 minutes. The guide says it's going to be on. Edited May 3 by Absolom 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153375-s01e11-monaco-under-the-stars/#findComment-8652026
Badlands May 3 Share May 3 1 hour ago, bunnyface said: Was this on for anyone? I don't know if the preemption was local or national. Just tell me who they killed already.... If you really want to know... Spoiler Keith (Doug's dad) was killed, but it was accidental. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153375-s01e11-monaco-under-the-stars/#findComment-8652040
Irlandesa May 3 Share May 3 51 minutes ago, bunnyface said: Was this on for anyone? I don't know if the preemption was local or national. Just tell me who they killed already.... It was on for me. All I'll say for this is if it gets renewed, they should just do a Birdie spinoff just minus her baby. Maybe take Catherine but everyone else is ugh. Her ex is kind of cool too. He can stay. I'm kind of at the point where they deserve to go to jail for the utmostest stupidity now that we know who Quiche is. Spoilers for the Episode Below. So Alice's MIL did end up killing Molly. I liked their revenge idea but I would think taking something that'd matter to her MIL would be telling her son and giving him proof. That's complete psycho behavior on the MIL's part. I did like their revenge plot but why not just record the destruction of the quilt and then go to her house and show her the video? It's not the killing of her FIL that is going to end her marriage. It's the fact that it was a total accident and they all decide to cover it up? Couldn't they just say that they were running whatever the heck they were running, the blanket got caught and the FIL tried to save it? But maybe they think they'll be in trouble because they stole the quilty. Even so, whatever trouble they'd get in because of that will be much less than they will be if they get caught tampering with a body. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153375-s01e11-monaco-under-the-stars/#findComment-8652046
bunnyface May 3 Share May 3 1 hour ago, Badlands said: 1 hour ago, Badlands said: If you really want to know... Reveal spoiler Keith (Doug's dad) was killed, but it was accidental. You are a saint and I thank you and I can let this whole ridiculous thing go now. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153375-s01e11-monaco-under-the-stars/#findComment-8652080
possibilities May 3 Share May 3 It wasn't pre-empted here. Do we think this is the kind of show that lets the people get away with it, or do we think they will be found out? The cover up is the real problem. They didn't actually murder him. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153375-s01e11-monaco-under-the-stars/#findComment-8652081
AnimeMania May 3 Author Share May 3 There was one piece of impossible physics displayed here. Spoiler Keith who physically tossed Brett off of his son Doug, just hours ago, can pull with all of his might on a quilt in a wood chipper and it doesn't move, even though earlier we see Brett move the wood chipper, with one hand, although it took a little effort. I guess you might handwave this mistake off if you pretend that Keith was standing on the tiny piece of wood the wood chipper was attached to during his struggle. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153375-s01e11-monaco-under-the-stars/#findComment-8652124
blackwing May 3 Share May 3 I’m glad they finally revealed who died. But I’m trying to figure out why we are supposed to care that Alice’s father in law died. To me he was such an insignificant character that I didn’t even know his name until I read it here. There were plenty of unlikeable people who would have been more satisfying… Brett’s ex’s husband, Alice’s mother in law, Doug, Birdie’s son’s mom, etc. But instead it’s some schlub who was barely on canvas. Midway through the episode I started to think that nobody actually died, and the “murder” was the murder of the quilt. Hah. Don’t understand why mother in law didn’t go home with the quilt? They paid the money, it’s hers, should have been taken home with her. The death was clearly accidental. Also, how are they sure he died? Those spikes went into him but they weren’t that long, and he is a large man with adequate padding, could just have been flesh wounds. They at least should have checked. And obviously called the police to explain the accidental death. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153375-s01e11-monaco-under-the-stars/#findComment-8652167
Absolom May 3 Share May 3 (edited) What an unsatisfying death to be mysterious about. It's shallow like most of the writing this season. Why not simply call it in? I read this morning that the show is dead last overall in the ratings. The chances of renewal are predicted to be absolutely tiny. Edited May 4 by Absolom 1 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153375-s01e11-monaco-under-the-stars/#findComment-8652247
possibilities May 3 Share May 3 Are we to understand that the same person who made the quilt is who bid on and won it at the auction? Birdie being a mom could have been a good show if they had the ratings and motivation to do a spin off or season 2. But her moping about how she couldn't do it alone was bizarre. She had money to hire all the help she needed, and her ex anted to be part of it. Also, she seems to feel very guilty about the affair, and very sad about having given up her first offspring, and extremely apologetic for wanting to get to know him even a little bit now. I get that the affair was wrong, but she didn't feel bad about it a few days ago, and she was only ending it because that was the deal to allow her to interact with the kid. So... I don't think her story is making any sense anymore. Why wouldn't the kid, who is about to graduate from high school, be able to make his own decision about whether he wants to know her? Why is his mom so violently opposed to him doing so, or even to knowing that he was adopted? This attitude toward adoption seems to be something from the 1950s, or even earlier, when anybody who got pregnant out of wedlock was a huge scandal/shame and not something out of the world we've been living in for decades. Regarding the murder vs cover up issue: It occurs to me just now that maybe actually they did kill the guy-- and we just didn't see it yet. Maybe what's his name passed out and they decided to kill him to stop him from exposing them for stealing the quilt, or outing his wife for killing the dog. Maybe they decided he is evil and also what the evil mother in law loved most in the world, so they decided to take him away from her, like she took away the dogs and is trying to break up Alice's marriage. That would make more sense than that they just decided to cover up an accidental death. Of course, if that's the case, then burying him in the garden, and with the quilt, actually makes some bizarre sense. People will suspect the woman who wanted to quilt but lost at auction, before they would suspect any of Our Gang. But then, moving the body to underneath Birdie's house would be insane. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153375-s01e11-monaco-under-the-stars/#findComment-8652349
seacliffsal May 3 Share May 3 That was it? After all of the build-up, it was an accidental killing of a previously 'neutral' character who was barely featured through the season? I was hoping for a satisfying murder and this wasn't it. Couldn't stand Alice this episode (but haven't really liked her for quite a while). Based on the story thus far and specifically this episode, I hope they are all thrown in prison. IMO this was a total waste of a show that seemed to have potential but just confused all of the stories with the billion time jumps and an unsatisfying murder (this is t.v., so I can root for a murder which I would not do in real life...). 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153375-s01e11-monaco-under-the-stars/#findComment-8652452
Absolom May 3 Share May 3 It wasn't even a real murder. It was an accident that they contributed to but really the worst is the gossip that they'd face. Uh, we were trying to destroy a quilt and he was trying to stop us and more or less slipped. It's inane and stupid. I hope that wasn't their plot line all along. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153375-s01e11-monaco-under-the-stars/#findComment-8652461
KaveDweller May 3 Share May 3 19 hours ago, possibilities said: It wasn't pre-empted here. Do we think this is the kind of show that lets the people get away with it, or do we think they will be found out? The cover up is the real problem. They didn't actually murder him. They are the four leads, so I feel like they would have to get away with it if they intended to have more than one season. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153375-s01e11-monaco-under-the-stars/#findComment-8652550
Absolom May 4 Share May 4 Here's the NBC chart. I think it's pretty obvious what the fate of the show is going to be. The show hasn't done well since it launched. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153375-s01e11-monaco-under-the-stars/#findComment-8653030
Absolom May 4 Share May 4 Put another way it's down with NCIS reruns on cable: 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153375-s01e11-monaco-under-the-stars/#findComment-8653036
peachmangosteen May 5 Share May 5 I don't think those kind of ratings are the only thing being looked at anymore but still there's literally no chance this is getting renewed. 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153375-s01e11-monaco-under-the-stars/#findComment-8653707
Absolom May 5 Share May 5 Ratings are still usually the first thing the studios use and then go to cost or for some older shows cost comes up first. If they don't get eyeballs, they don't get advertisement dollars so that's the tie in. The reason it isn't always as apparent is most of the charts the public gets are like the second with all the shows on it. The first with just NBC makes it plain how far off the show is. It's almost a million viewers below the next lowest show and half a point in the demo. The viewer numbers aren't quite as bad when compared to Suits LA, but the demo is worse. 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153375-s01e11-monaco-under-the-stars/#findComment-8653772
peachmangosteen May 5 Share May 5 There’s simply more to it nowadays but there is virtually no engagement online for this show either so it has nothing going for it. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153375-s01e11-monaco-under-the-stars/#findComment-8653790
Absolom May 5 Share May 5 There's always been "more to it." The West Wing stayed on longer because it had the above $100k income viewers that the advertisers salivated over. But that's money again just from a different view. There's we're changing the network direction that axes certain shows. There's personal dislike of actors, producers, or story types. At the beginning and end of it though, the networks are there to make money. If they don't their jobs are toast. The way they get money is from advertisement fees. The ads are paid on viewership. There is no escaping that. 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153375-s01e11-monaco-under-the-stars/#findComment-8653801
Jaundiced Eye May 5 Share May 5 I struggled to keep watching this show from the beginning, and finally threw in the towel a few episodes back. It seems I made the right choice. Thanks to you folks, at least I (think) I know the identity of the body. 😂 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153375-s01e11-monaco-under-the-stars/#findComment-8654083
I Want My MBTV May 6 Share May 6 what a letdown! It gets so frustrating on shows where something is clearly self defense or accidental but instead of calling 911 they do a bunch of stupid stuff. I started to hate everyone on this show (except Birdie and I'm not sure if that's due to the character or the actress). I used to like Katherine but she's become an idiot as well and what was the deal with her parents still having her childhood room in their house? Like it's just been sitting there like that for the last 30 years? And Brett's ex-wife deserves whichever awful dude she ends up with! Brett's fighting over Alice one minute then trying to get back with his ex the next and again they're just all horrible and literally any of them could of died but they choose the most milquetoast one. I had high hopes for this show which were dashed week after week and yet I stayed so shame on me. 4 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153375-s01e11-monaco-under-the-stars/#findComment-8654265
SingerIslander May 6 Share May 6 I just watched the finale on demand, and I was very disappointed in who the dead body turned out to be, but mainly because I actually liked Doug's father. I thought he had common sense and infinite patience with his wife, son and daughter-in-law on several different occasions, and I could think of at least five other characters I wouldn't have minded seeing killed off. I also thought he helped humanize Doug's mom. I'd watched every episode, used a roadmap to figure out when it was one month later or three months earlier or whatever, and still decided to stick it out with the story, only to see a relatively decent guy die accidentally, with the show thinking I'd be ok with it because I was supposed to be rooting for the gang to get away with it. I'm solidly in the camp that doesn't care what happens to them, or if the show gets renewed. What a shame. 3 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153375-s01e11-monaco-under-the-stars/#findComment-8654439
AnimeMania May 6 Author Share May 6 4 hours ago, SingerIslander said: I just watched the finale on demand Not, the finale, there are two more episodes. We can't afford to lose any more viewers. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153375-s01e11-monaco-under-the-stars/#findComment-8654515
bunnyface May 6 Share May 6 (edited) Looking at the chart above, I tried and bailed on St. Denis and LA:Suits at lot faster than this show. I wish I had let this one go sooner. ETA: So this one obviously had something that held my attention and I thought had potential. I just wish it had matched that expectation. Edited May 6 by bunnyface 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153375-s01e11-monaco-under-the-stars/#findComment-8654585
Absolom May 6 Share May 6 (edited) LA: Suits lost me with the teaser and about one minute of the first show. St. Denis is on my DVR, but hasn't pulled enough interest from me to begin it. You're right there was something in the ads and the first couple of shows that seemed compelling enough to get us to stick around. The characters seemed complex enough and I love a good garden. I would have stayed for gardening stories. I know myself better than to watch time shifting shows. It drives me around the bend. I hate the gimmicks of differentiating the time periods or having to watch and think about months ago or weeks ahead. I should have quit as soon as they began messing with the time. Edited May 6 by Absolom 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153375-s01e11-monaco-under-the-stars/#findComment-8654655
Sharla May 6 Share May 6 On 5/5/2025 at 8:26 AM, peachmangosteen said: There’s simply more to it nowadays but there is virtually no engagement online for this show either so it has nothing going for it. Online engagement doesn't count toward renewing the show. Online engagement can entice other people to watch or keep watching and that results in more viewers. Occasionally a borderline show might get them back to renegotiate costs if enough people email or otherwise contact the network or start a petition. It won't change their minds, but it might lead them back to the bargaining table. As the other poster said, it's all money driven. What story lines they pursue might be influenced by online activity. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153375-s01e11-monaco-under-the-stars/#findComment-8654743
peachmangosteen May 6 Share May 6 (edited) They absolutely care about whether the show has any engagement. But when a show has no engagement and is dong terribly in ratings then of course it'll be cancelled lol. Edited May 6 by peachmangosteen 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153375-s01e11-monaco-under-the-stars/#findComment-8654874
Sharla May 7 Share May 7 (edited) 18 hours ago, peachmangosteen said: They absolutely care about whether the show has any engagement. But when a show has no engagement and is dong terribly in ratings then of course it'll be cancelled lol. I hope you can tell me what show or shows were kept on the air due to online engagement such as discussion groups and not a petition. ETA: Sorry to those who don't care, but I just read this and it so applies. From an interview this week with the Netflix CEO. Quote Narator: Despite all the success, netflix has had its stumble. Technical glitchs during live events, it's raging audiences. And viewers backlash to hype shows like meghan markle's with love meghan. Interviewer: do you pay attention to the way fans react on social media? Netflix CEO Greg Peters: Really at the end of the day, we're looking at, you know, what is the viewing behavior. That's what matters most. Are we satisfying viewers? Are they watching? Edited May 7 by Sharla 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153375-s01e11-monaco-under-the-stars/#findComment-8655172
Ancaster May 11 Share May 11 Well, I bailed after 2 1/2 episodes and came here to find out who was murdered. My first thought was "who the hell is that", which made me happy that I hadn't wasted any more time. The reaction of people here to the victim's identity (and their problems with the series, which echo mine) made me sure I'd made the right decision for me. So thanks for the info and for taking one for the team, and sorry to everyone who feels disappointed/ripped off/etc. Believe me, been there, done that, and often for things that should have been put out of their misery long ago (Law and Order SVU anyone?), but which I clung onto for some reason. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/153375-s01e11-monaco-under-the-stars/#findComment-8658712
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