S01.E09: 3:00 P.M

[debraran]

On 3/1/2025 at 10:12 PM, txhorns79 said:

At least in Philadelphia, I know of at least one hospital that will not even hire tobacco users anymore.  Though Dana said she had been at the Pitt for 30 years, so she would be grandfathered in if they had that policy.    

Sandra Oh wasn't on ER, but I think both ER and Grey's Anatomy did variations of that storyline. 

yes, I didn't watch Grey's but I know there was something to my memory with Benton and the PA on ER Jeanne, had someone with Nazi tattoos. That's hard. I remember in real life docs seeing things like that because white supremacists get hurt and if conscious can complain but it's when your oath really comes into play. You do your job.

15 hours ago, preeya said:

There's a good article here re: the attack and its aftermath: 

https://tvline.com/interviews/the-pitt-episode-9-noah-wyle-interview-nurse-dana-evans-attacked-explained-1235413160/

 

I'm glad they touch on it and the lingering effects. Whether you are like the nurse last month who got bones broken or just slapped or threatening , it's scary and disconcerting.

I was only verbally threatened and finger shoved in my face and loud voice and "I better do what he says". He wanted a specific doctor to talk to him, I was afraid and his anger made me start to cry but nothing I did worked. Someone was going to call 911 but the doc heard, he said, No I'll talk to him. This doc was on Navy boat for a year and not a pushover type. He took him outside and I held my breath but no physical confrontation, and he dismissed him from practice. No one talks to my staff that way and he was firm. If you let patients take an inch, they will take a yard. That patient can't just be let go.There's no excuse for that behaviour

Edited March 3 by debraran

[AnnMarie17]

19 hours ago, preeya said:

There's a good article here re: the attack and its aftermath: 

https://tvline.com/interviews/the-pitt-episode-9-noah-wyle-interview-nurse-dana-evans-attacked-explained-1235413160/

 

This was a great read, thank you for sharing.

I found the ending of that episode tough to handle. Wow.  That punch was a gut punch as a viewer.  I recently spent several days at Cleveland Clinic with a friend recovering from major surgery and we noticed pretty early on that several "Code Lavender" calls could be heard each day.  On the second or third day I googled it and found that it's a code for a violent person (patient or visitor or whomever).  I asked one of her nurses if that was correct and they confirmed it...Code Lavender is calling for help with a violent person, and we heard several of these calls every single day we were there.  I was gobsmacked.

This show is really terrific.  It's got me thinking about patients, doctors, nurses, health systems, insurance companies, societal issues, familial issues, financial issues, criminality....there are so many layers and avenues to digest.  I just think it's really really good.  It's been a long time since I've enjoyed a scripted show this much.

[debraran]

17 hours ago, AnnMarie17 said:

This was a great read, thank you for sharing.

I found the ending of that episode tough to handle. Wow.  That punch was a gut punch as a viewer.  I recently spent several days at Cleveland Clinic with a friend recovering from major surgery and we noticed pretty early on that several "Code Lavender" calls could be heard each day.  On the second or third day I googled it and found that it's a code for a violent person (patient or visitor or whomever).  I asked one of her nurses if that was correct and they confirmed it...Code Lavender is calling for help with a violent person, and we heard several of these calls every single day we were there.  I was gobsmacked.

This show is really terrific.  It's got me thinking about patients, doctors, nurses, health systems, insurance companies, societal issues, familial issues, financial issues, criminality....there are so many layers and avenues to digest.  I just think it's really really good.  It's been a long time since I've enjoyed a scripted show this much.

Yes I found that many times in our medical office, there are just "jerks" but many times mental illness going unchecked and drugs make people violent and very strong. When you tell someone they are being cut off from pain management because they broke the rules again, it's not pretty....which is why pain management docs burn out early and are not in abundance although needed.

[MamaMax]

On 3/1/2025 at 2:06 PM, circumvent said:

That's not how I saw it. I think she wanted to play nice with Mohan and, being defiant, didn't care about facing Langdon - like, he already hates her, why not help the other doctor a bit. She also didn't expect Langdon to be such a jerk, so it shocked her. I guess this interaction is a set up for a future scene. It is part of this relationship where someone will be redeemed, someone will learn a lesson, maybe a patient will die before so they both can take the heat. A bit trope-y but that's TV

I'm thinking that the marked diff in Langdon's exchanges with Mel vs Santos is pointing us to how things are effected when you're working with someone you just personally really dislike.

I think Santos "explanation" was just manipulative of Mo and that it's never good when interns LIE to their resident or attending, about anything really. 

Dana getting punched was sadly very realistic and an unanticipated yet totally consistent turn of events with Mad Asshole Waiting room guy. I actually wouldn't be surprised if we DON'T see him again. Part of the problem is that hospital staffers are subjected to this abuse and there's really no resolution, and often the hospital admin turns it around on the staff - "what could you have done differently yo diffuse the situation" kind of bull shit.

 

[Infie]

re: Santos and Langdon  vs King and Langdon

If it were me, the big difference would be how clearly Dr King is trying to work *with* the people she is around.  

With Santos, Langdon had already spoken to her privately twice about not jumping ahead without talking to him.  Both times she then immediately ignored him, and seems to feel that he's coming from a position of prejudice against her. 

With the discussion in the episode of unconscious bias, I wonder if Santos has a bias against men, possibly for good reason.  I think that Langdon is clearly at this point biased against Santos, but I do think *that* bias has been earned. 

 

[b4pjoe]

On 3/1/2025 at 8:54 AM, snarts said:

As someone who loved ER (watching reruns this morning) I am really enjoying how much brighter & well-lit this show is.

On 3/1/2025 at 1:20 PM, sadie said:

I love this show and loved this episode, it went by too quickly. I’m currently rewatching ER in whole (for the third time)

I started watching this show and liked it so much that when I read the comparisons with ER some 30 years ago I decided to start watching it as I had never seen a single episode of ER before. I am now currently on Season 2 of ER and I also noticed how much brighter & well-lit and also much cleaner this hospital is than the hospital was in ER. And while this show can get a bit chaotic it is calm compared to the chaos on ER every single episode. I get it was a different time in a larger city and all but gee whiz you can't relax for a minute while watching ER. Don't get me wrong I am loving ER.

Also when I started watching this show I had no idea who Noah Wyle was and after reading he had been on ER I could not place which character on ER I was watching was was Noah Wyle. It shocked me when I looked it up and it was Dr Carter played by the same person as Dr. Robby. I guess his beard on The Pitt fooled me. I did remember the episode on Friends where George Clooney played a doctor but I never knew who the other doctor was with him on Friends. Watching these two brought that back to my mind and I realized the other doctor had to be Noah Wyle. Looked it up and sure enough...it was him.

[debraran]

The woman who played Laura the pregnant boss of the lady who seem to be in a cult or sex trafficked , commented on Facebook that she was really pregnant and they let that be part of the script, but it had nothing to do with the plot, which is maybe why they never brought it up. Her name is Shani Atlas and she thought it was great that she could still act while 8 months pregnant 

[Sarah 103]

 

On 2/28/2025 at 10:55 AM, marceline said:

I like the growth in Whitaker's character. I wonder if we'll ever see the street team in action.

That could be a fascinating season split between two/multiple locations. You have what is happening in the ER over a shift and what is happening outside with the street team. 

On 2/28/2025 at 10:55 AM, marceline said:

I knew when Langdon told King to keep the lounge door closed so Crosby couldn't get out, I figured there was going to be some action with the rats. 

Especially since they specifically mentioned the dog was a terrier. My only question was would the dog see the rat and ignore it, or if the dog had a terrier's instinct and would go after it. 

On 3/1/2025 at 9:12 AM, Ely said:

I adored that little scene with Landgon and Mel and how he knew exactly how to get her back on track. He is a good teacher, he understands people well. He just neeeds to recognize when his own buttons are being pushed and not to feed the troll. Him yelling at Santos was not ok, which also seemed so extreme. I

Yes! He needs to learn when he's running hot, getting frustrated and needs to take a breath, take a moment before appropriately reprimanding a subordinate who needs it. 

On 3/1/2025 at 8:00 PM, Arynm said:

Aren't there 3 rats? We might get to see Crosby in action again I hope.

I counted 3 rats so it's one down, two to go. Depending on how long Crosby is there, we may get to see him in action again. It's also possible Whitaker will be called on as well. 

I'm sure Crosby will be find. He's probably already had his vaccines and when they are released, he will be taken to the vet first thing. 

[statsgirl]

Crosby's owner said that he (the dog) was a good ratter so it's most likely that he's had all his shots.

[cmfran]

On 2/28/2025 at 12:44 PM, Morrigan2575 said:

100% he will have a heart attack,  get brought back via ambulance and then the doctors will have to save his life because that's what they do. Afterwards the little 💩 will probably still be belligerent

Jerks like that with their ways of thinking are the precise reason we'll never have socialized medicine in the US.

[AstridM]

On 2/27/2025 at 10:22 PM, Irlandesa said:

I love Langdon's bitchy "do you want us to wear masks in surgery?" 

Haven’t loved anything more in a long time! So satisfying.

[Jack Shaftoe]

I will again ask a question caused by my complete ignorance of the US healthcare system - if angry waiting room guy has such "good insurance" as he claimed can't he just go to a more expensive, less swamped hospital? Or he was just bullshitting because he is a racist dick and can't actually afford to go somewhere where he will be examined more quickly?

Langdon had some of the best scenes - his talk with Mel and then demanding that Asshole Doug sign a waiver before leaving in a huff. Asking passive-agressively that idiot woman if she wanted her surgeons to wear masks. "Good call" had me in stitches.

Yelling at Santos seemed a contrived way to win some sympathy points for her, I hate it when shows have characters escape blame for the many terrible things they have done, only to get blamed harshly in the rare occasions when it's not their fault, and then play it as if that somehow means they are unfairly persecuted in general. Still, without episodes like that some of the doctors would come across too perfect, so I can live it, as long as they don't make Langdon a drug addict who steals from the hospital too.

Dana called Javadi "Dr. Javadi" - isn't she a long way from becoming a doctor?

McKay is unraveling a bit, she yelled at the creepy boss lady and was pretty intense when Piper bolted. Collins' mild reprimand of her was probably intended to contrast with how Langdon and Robby did it earlier.

Nurse Kim seems to really want to ask Whitaker out. Though she probably needs to get in line after he showed off his mad rat extermination skills.

Imagine the administrator's expression when the rats in the ED make it into social media or even the news. Then again, it might help make the department less swamped for a week, so well done, Crosby.

Edited Sunday at 06:13 PM by Jack Shaftoe

[Irlandesa]

8 hours ago, Jack Shaftoe said:

if angry waiting room guy has such "good insurance" as he claimed can't he just go to a more expensive, less swamped hospital? Or he was just bullshitting because he is a racist dick and can't actually afford to go somewhere where he will be examined more quickly?

He probably thinks he's better than most of the patients there at the ER but good insurance in the US usuallly just means good coverage and or no/low co-pays.  It doesn't necessarily mean easier access when they need to go to the ER. The only way he could probably get immediately seen by someone is if he willing to cash pay instead of go through an insurance.

I don't think we ever truly found out why he was in the ER but people usually end up in the ER if they feel there's some urgency to their condition and they can't wait for a doctor's appointment.  Getting a same day appointment is usually kind of difficult.  Another option is urgent care who will see patients on a walk-in basis but if you or they suspect a patient's condition needs more testing or could potentially be more life threatning, like a heart attack, they'll send a patient to the ER. An ER is going to triage the patients.  Those at death's door will get priority over those who seem fine. 

Some people who end up in the ER actually should just wait for a doctor's appointment or go to urgent care but they could to the ER instead for---reasons.