Danielg342 February 15 Share February 15 From The Futon Critic: Quote The crew responds to a call from the local renaissance fair after a fire breather loses their balance and sets off a tent filled with fireworks Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151904-s03e11-fare-thee-well/
Danielg342 February 15 Author Share February 15 What can I say? Maybe they have figured it out. Sure, tonight was rather absurd...but, instead of trying to pass off a scenario filled with silliness into a brooding, serious, DRAMATIC! episode, the writers leaned into all this campiness, dialed it up to 12 (maybe even 13) and produced something as magical as the greatest fantasies ever told. It also helped that Katie Findlay and Jules Latimer embraced their inner Galadriel and were simultaneously elegant, graceful and completely competent and badass. They may have started as beautiful, innocent elves engaged in a magical fantasy, but when things got real and they had to get their hands dirty, they more than did and it was a joy to watch. Sealed with a great, magical kiss at the end to boot. I also thought, much like last week, this was very much an episode where the characters behaved naturally and organically. This time, there seemed to be some actual layers to it, especially when it came to Vince. Leave it to Billy Burke to really bring out the nuances in the grizzled old veteran role, showing how the snark originated deep inside the soul of a vulnerable, troubled man. One who couldn't bear the thought of his father- whom he both feared and revered- is just as vulnerable as he is and isn't as indestructible as he appeared. Which is the same realization that Vince himself has gone through several times in this series, but, arguably, none have been more poignant than this one. Sure, Vince had his stubbornness and seemed to get nasty with both Bode and Jake, but none of that felt forced and you got the sense that Vince eventually came around to what his sons- the de jure and de facto one- had seen all along. It was also a nice touch to see Jake be brought in to hear the news about Walter, cementing the fact that while he may not be blood, he's still very much a part of the Leone family. Still, despite the serious subplot, what made this episode stand out was that it didn't take itself too seriously and realized that dramas can still be- and need to be- fun experiences every now and then. I mean, for all the ridiculous things Bode has done in this series, have you ever thought you'd ever get to see him say, "I slayed a dragon". Yet, here we are. Lastly, I hold out hope- however faint it may be- that maybe this show realizes "Bodiella" just isn't working and "Bodrey" is a far better choice. The sparks were just flying all over the place between Leven Rambin and Max Thieriot and they just ooze so much chemistry that I hope- beyond hope- that their union is permanent. I still think it's a faint hope, because Hollywood always Hollywood's...but at least for this one, magical moment, I at least have some belief that, maybe, just maybe, this show will buck a few trends and benefit in the long haul for it. 2 1 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151904-s03e11-fare-thee-well/#findComment-8581453
buckboard February 15 Share February 15 Once again, they stopped in the middle of fires and rescuing the injured to discuss personal issues. For example, Three Rock is about to leave. What better time for Gariella and her dad to have a heart to heart. Bodie and his father argue, as the fire spreads, to discuss Nonno's illness. Just like always with this show, personal discussion takes precedence over professionalism. 2 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151904-s03e11-fare-thee-well/#findComment-8581468
possibilities February 15 Share February 15 Maybe the actors aren't capable of talking while moving. On other shows like this, they can shout about their drama while running with gear or spraying water on the flames or doing a rescue. On this one, they stop all the action to do it. It's a problem. I'm very grateful they've dialed down the whining and the sulking, though. That alone has improved things dramatically. I mean-- Gabriella is working on some self-awareness, and she's smiling occasionally, and she's not acting jealous or competitive with Blond Love Interest, or bitter with Bode, or petulant with her dad or anybody else. She's trying to be an adult. She's not perfect, but she's not a total sinkhole, either. Bode is still being framed as right even when he's wrong, like how he wanted to do the more dangerous thing to cut off the armor, Vince shot him down, and then Vince's way wasn't working and Bode's original "reckless idea" was the one that worked. Plus, Bode is right about grandpa, and Vince is being the petulant baby about it. But, again, at least he's not alternating between sinkhole and reckless maniac while filling that role. And Vince is a WAAAAAAY better actor and his petulant baby is at least not slow death quicksand to watch. I have no patience for idiots who blow fire all over a highly combustible landscape. You'd think people in CA would be a little more careful. And whoever those kids belonged to, who were wilding around with the swords, I have no patience for them, either, letting their brats run around being hazards and totally unsupervised. Unfortunately, even though I have no patience for them, I think those kinds of idiots are common enough that it's not just a tv trope to show them, so I don't blame the show. I agree that the campiness helps. I'm not asking the show to be a documentary. I just don't want it to be soul-killing to watch! 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151904-s03e11-fare-thee-well/#findComment-8581624
Dowel Jones February 15 Share February 15 A few questions: When Sir Loin of Beef (the knight) got punctured all the way through his chest, why were there no symptoms of lung damage or serious bleeding, and he could converse with everyone right up until he couldn't? I mean, I know he's a knight and all, and I maintain that it would have been a perfect point for a Monty Python "It's just a flesh wound". We have this supposedly wildland and structure (sort of) fire where everyone is running around without any clear leadership, but Vince takes time to ride in the ambulance with said knight. How did he get back to the incident? 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151904-s03e11-fare-thee-well/#findComment-8581722
Madding crowd February 15 Share February 15 I didn’t buy Vince trying to give advice to delusional injured knight; first responders do their job and move on. They don’t have time to play therapist to people they rescue. This of course mirrored Eve’s girlfriend to say they can’t be together until she shares all of herself . Of course Eve then tells Jake she likes fantasy and apparently all is well. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151904-s03e11-fare-thee-well/#findComment-8581741
Quark February 15 Share February 15 I loved this episode, found it very funny for the most part. 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151904-s03e11-fare-thee-well/#findComment-8581769
The Wild Sow February 15 Share February 15 (edited) 6 hours ago, possibilities said: I mean-- Gabriella is working on some self-awareness, and she's smiling occasionally, and she's not acting jealous or competitive with Blond Love Interest, or bitter with Bode, or petulant with her dad or anybody else. She's trying to be an adult. She's not perfect, but she's not a total sinkhole, either. I'm really liking their developing friendship - and the swimming lessons! And yay for the show actually explaining how an adult managed to get to Audrey's age without learning to swim, fercryinoutloud. Although her trauma story (they threw me into the deep end! And my mom didn't come back!) seemed really unlikely. The throwing into the pool part; the mom part is probably true. Hey, I've spent 60-plus years being a Pool Rat, and I have never seen or heard of a swimming teacher doing that. I took a ton of swimming & diving lessons starting at age 5 or 6, and I've taught a ton of kids to swim & dive -- and Nobody. Does. That! Maybe back in the Little House on the Prairie days -- like when Pa tossed Mr. Oleson's nephew into the creek -- but that water was only about 2 or 3 feet deep! Late 20th/21st Centuries, though? Nope. In fact, my kids' diving coach chewed me out once for pushing one of mine into trying a skill she didn't feel ready for. She only had to chew me out that one time, BTW. Lifeguards and teachers know what the heck they're doing. Anyway, knowing some of Gabs' Pool Rat backstory is making me like her a lot more! 2 hours ago, Quark said: I loved this episode, found it very funny for the most part. Yes! Nobody died, hopefully Manny's patient that he wasn't allowed to touch will recover, and Bode slaying the dragon was just golden! I haven't been to RenFest yet (ours is in August and September) but I have some friends who do it and I'm tempted to check it out now! Hmmmmm, I did archery for a few years as a kid too, wonder if I can still handle a bow & arrow? Edited February 15 by The Wild Sow 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151904-s03e11-fare-thee-well/#findComment-8581854
possibilities February 16 Share February 16 Well, I was thrown into the deep end and told to swim, and it did a real number on me. I think professionals who teach lessons are probably more careful than that, but if you are getting informal lesons contracted by a negligent parent, then sure-- people are assholes and will do stupid shit. What I don't know is how she got hired to the fire service if, as Gabriella says, they do water rescues. Nobody asked if she can swim and made it either a pre-requisite or else something she had to sign up for remdiation for, if water rescues are part of the job? Still, I am enjoying the friendship between Audrey and Gabriella. Please, show, don't blow it up over something petty and stupid. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151904-s03e11-fare-thee-well/#findComment-8581974
DanaK February 16 Share February 16 Like the last episode, another episode that was top notch because it mostly focused on the characters 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151904-s03e11-fare-thee-well/#findComment-8582057
possibilities February 16 Share February 16 It was broad daylight when the fire started and after dark when the team arrived to fight it. Does anyone know if there's a reason they would rather shoot the rescues at night? I don't think that was the case earlier in the show's run, but I am not confident I'm remembering everything. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151904-s03e11-fare-thee-well/#findComment-8582348
christie February 17 Share February 17 8 hours ago, possibilities said: It was broad daylight when the fire started and after dark when the team arrived to fight it. Does anyone know if there's a reason they would rather shoot the rescues at night? I don't think that was the case earlier in the show's run, but I am not confident I'm remembering everything. I, on the other hand, have the impression that the show often has a fire starting during the day and the firefighters showing up when it's dark; I don't remember which episodes but it has happened before. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151904-s03e11-fare-thee-well/#findComment-8583201
tv echo February 17 Share February 17 (edited) I only have one reservation about the developing friendship between Gabriella and Audrey. We already have Gabriella going back and forth romantically between two best friends, Bode and Jake. I don't next want to see Bode going back and forth romantically between two new friends, Gabriella and Audrey. Edited February 17 by tv echo 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151904-s03e11-fare-thee-well/#findComment-8583422
Dowel Jones Monday at 04:19 PM Share Monday at 04:19 PM 20 hours ago, possibilities said: It was broad daylight when the fire started and after dark when the team arrived to fight it. It was perfectly normal. The evil wizard had cast a spell over the entire Renaissance village, and it was only Bode's heroism in slaying the dragon that saved them. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151904-s03e11-fare-thee-well/#findComment-8583511
sweetandsour Tuesday at 09:02 AM Share Tuesday at 09:02 AM (edited) My assumption regarding the fire fighting at night is it's easier to manage the continuity across scenes. The fire scenes take up so much of the episode that they take days to shoot. Compare to the rescues on, say, Chicago Fire, which often are just a few minutes on-screen and then it's back to the firehouse or some other hijinks. A 40+ minute show is usually 8 or so shooting days. Fire Country's firefighting scenes take up most of the episode (it seems like at least half of the runtime). Shows don't shoot episodes in chronological order of the scenes, so if it's always moonlight-only + stage lighting in the fire scenes on Fire Country, they can keep more continuity in appearance if one scene was shot on Tuesday 11 pm, then cut to something shot on Thursday at 1 am, then next is a scene shot on Wednesday at 9 pm. Vs shooting in the daytime and when the editors cut it together, it's a scene with the sun at 11 am, followed by one at dusk, then followed by one at 3 pm. Managing this by requiring scenes to be shot so overhead daylight doesn't jump around across days of shooting is too restrictive. I also wonder if nighttime shoots make CGI fire in post-production easier or cheaper? This one, I don't know about. Off the top of my head, thinking about daytime rescues on Fire Country - the dispensary robbery was mostly indoors with a little bit of outside. The plane rescue with Jared Padalecki was daytime, but I don't remember it taking that long? Anyway. Gabriela is becoming more bearable and even Manny the backslider showed some restraint and ability to change. Firefighter Jesus slayed the dragon as we all knew he would, Declan Porter from "Revenge" will live another day to secretly pine after his cubicle neighbor, and the guy stuck in the pillory may just live in there now, permanently. Did they ever show him getting out of it? Edited Tuesday at 05:49 PM by sweetandsour Edit - I meant pillory. My late-night brain jumped to guillotine even though it clearly wasn't one. 1 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151904-s03e11-fare-thee-well/#findComment-8584313
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