S01.E07: 1:00 P.M.

[snarts]

1 hour ago, Affogato said:

I just don’t think the contempt and hate have been earned. Well, thank (whoever) she isn’t a real person. 

The contempt I have for Santos stems from how she's treated her co-workers. I understand that she may be dealing with trauma but that doesn't give her the right to bully or undermine her peers/managers. 

[statsgirl]

8 hours ago, snarts said:

https://www.tvinsider.com/gallery/the-pitt-noah-wyle-cast-characters-photos-premiere-date/#8

Whether she's a 4th year intern/1st year resident, my point remains. It's far from her first time in a clinical setting, wondering why her behavior wasn't addressed previously.

The first two years of medical school are in class. Clinical study starts in year 3 e.g. Javadi.  As Santos is a 4th year medical student, this is only her second year doing clinical, basically her second time in a clinical setting. Apparently her last placement supervisors didn't correct her.

Interesting page of backgrounds. I was right about Collins and Langdon being 4th year residents and Mohan 3rd year. I thought McKay was an ER doc but she's a second year resident like King. I guess she gets to do things less supervised because presumably she worked there last year whereas King is still an unknown quantity.

Other notable thing is that Santos is actually two years behind King in medical education for all that she acts like her boss.

[Notabug]

7 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

The first two years of medical school are in class. Clinical study starts in year 3 e.g. Javadi.  As Santos is a 4th year medical student, this is only her second year doing clinical, basically her second time in a clinical setting. Apparently her last placement supervisors didn't correct her.

I think that what the page is saying is that Santos was formerly an athlete and fourth year med student but is now starting her residency at Pitt; that's the only logical explanation for the rather confusing statement in the press release.  I think they mean that she did a rotation at Pitt as a 4th year med student and has now returned as a first year resident, aka intern.  It doesn't explain how she ever got into the residency in the first place unless her behavior as a student was very, very different from what we've seen thus far.  Had she behaved as a medical student the way she does as an intern, she would never have been matched into the program.

[statsgirl]

4 minutes ago, Notabug said:

I think that what the page is saying is that Santos was formerly an athlete and fourth year med student but is now starting her residency at Pitt

So I was right the first time, first year resident. (Javadi 3rd yr med student, Whittaker 4th yr med, Santos 1st yr resident, King and McKay 2nd yr, Samra 3rd yr, Collins and Langdon 4th yr)

No explanation for why no one at Pitt corrected her last year. Or why she thinks it's okay to mock senior residents much less report them.

[Morrigan2575]

9 hours ago, Notabug said:

This also begs the question as to why Santos chose the specialty of emergency medicine when it is apparently so triggering for her.  

I don't think she did. I thought she mentioned in an earlier episode that she wanted surgery but didn't match to surgery and wanted Javadi's mom to write a recommendation.  My guess is she took the ED spot because it was an opening and they needed bodies on the floor.

[Carolina Girl]

On 2/13/2025 at 7:42 PM, Morrigan2575 said:

Oh, no, no, no....I knew it when she rubbed her side last episode 😔

I honestly don't care about Santos at this point. They made her way too obnoxious for me to feel sorry for her. I assume the mother was right but don't really know.  

I adore Dr King, but I say that every week.

I know they had Mohan say the thing about Robby having a bad day because they wanted the blow-up. However, I wish she went along what she originally told Collins, that she finally won his approval and didn't want to mess that up.

I still don't think Langdon did anything wrong and that Santos is reaching.

Or he was scared and didn't want to die. 

I don't know what the goal was, so i don't really know if he was guilty. If the goal was just to reveal Santos' backstory and give her some layers it's 50/50 on guilt. If the goal was to redeem Santos and make people like her (jury is still out) he's a molester.  If the goal was just to further the Santos is too cocky/bullheaded aspects of her character then Dad was not guilty and she jumped the gun.

I wonder if we'll ever get an answer.

She's opened up that hospital to one hell of a malpractice suit.  

 

On 2/14/2025 at 4:21 PM, marceline said:

The interaction between the Good Samaritan and Nepali Patient was so lovely. 

 

Best moment of the episode.

[marceline]

I don't see a media thread so I'll drop this here. 

The Pitt’s Isa Briones Talks Playing ‘Someone the Audience Loves to Hate’ and Episode 7’s Big Santos Reveal

[Morrigan2575]

32 minutes ago, marceline said:

I don't see a media thread so I'll drop this here. 

The Pitt’s Isa Briones Talks Playing ‘Someone the Audience Loves to Hate’ and Episode 7’s Big Santos Reveal

She actually hasn't reached love to hate, she's just hated.

[bluegirl147]

37 minutes ago, Morrigan2575 said:

She actually hasn't reached love to hate, she's just hated.

Yeah in order to love to hate someone they have to be entertaining and even sometimes cause you to root for them.  For me this doesn't apply to Santos.

[Affogato]

I don’t know. A large part of the attention this show is getting on the forum here is hating Santos, so yeah. Everyone has to put their opinion front and center. The evidence is that people are loving to hate her. The show would be bland without her. 

[bluegirl147]

1 hour ago, Affogato said:

The show would be bland without her. 

Not for me.  I wouldn't miss her at all. I find pretty much any other character (medical professionals and patients) more interesting than her.  I have no idea if the writers are aiming for her to be a villain ala a Dr. Romano or just an ambitious with a tragic/inspiring background doctor. We are seven episodes in.  That should be long enough for this character to be more fleshed out.

Edited February 18 by bluegirl147

[Irlandesa]

1 hour ago, Affogato said:

I don’t know. A large part of the attention this show is getting on the forum here is hating Santos, so yeah. Everyone has to put their opinion front and center. The evidence is that people are loving to hate her. The show would be bland without her. 

I agree that a lot of talk is around her character so there's an element of loving to hate.

But I don't agree the show would be bland without her. 

I don't hate her but I will hate if they make her right over other characters.

[Morrigan2575]

4 hours ago, Affogato said:

I don’t know. A large part of the attention this show is getting on the forum here is hating Santos, so yeah. Everyone has to put their opinion front and center. The evidence is that people are loving to hate her. The show would be bland without her. 

Hard disagree.  Santos is annoying but she doesn't really add entertainment (for me). Mel and her sister, rooting for Whitaker to get a save or just make it through an episode without a scrubs change, worrying about Collins miscarriage and Robbys eventual breakdown.   Hell, even watching Langdon flailing about with his awful bedside abilities is entertaining on the character front.

The real draw is the medical stuff,  although some of it has been a little hard to watch, like Minu's foot 🤢

Remove Santos and i don't lose any entertainment value. She's not someone I love to hate (like Romano on ER), she's more of a detractor.

[statsgirl]

Doing a bit of a rewatch, and Santos says that she's only been there a couple of hours. So like Whitaker, Javadi and King, this is her first day.

For me, I hate the trope of "something traumatic happened to this person and that's why they are so terrible now". I am much more interested in a story where something traumatic happens to a person and they remain good. So much of what is in the news is terrible, I want some Sullivan's Travels entertainment.

Samira Mohan said that her father was had sickle cell and was badly treated in the ER. Her reaction is spend enough time with the patient to really listen and to do a study on how minorities are treated in ERs presumably to change the system. I find that more interesting than Santos trying to manipulate everyone around her to get ahead.

Edited February 19 by statsgirl

[Infie]

Characters I love to hate are characters I want to see more of.  Kerry Weaver from ER would be an example.  She drove me crazy but I always looked forward to having her on my screen.   Every time Santos is on the screen I just want her to go away.  I don't think that the character adds spice to the show at all. 

I find the stories compelling and the characterizations excellent and not bland at all.  

[circumvent]

On 2/14/2025 at 12:45 PM, Morrigan2575 said:

It seems like Robby is going to have a major Meltdown/Breakdown by the end of the season.

I hope not only because it is a cliche, at this point. Many people go through years of stress and manage to keep it not public. It would be much more interesting as a story if they just show how some people in some jobs just can't afford to blow off, even when it is a bad thing to keep it all in

On 2/15/2025 at 8:28 AM, marceline said:

I'm not sure she's badly written. Maybe she's supposed to be the bad guy. I don't think we're supposed to like her.

I agree. I don't think it is the writing, but I do think it is a little bad acting. The actor is making her very black and white, even when she shows her vulnerabilities. It lacks nuance. Contrary to some comments here, I don't think she will be fired. The season is one day and that's her first day. If she becomes too unpopular, then the writers might reduce her visibility for next season

 

Has Collins really lost the baby? I don't know how it would look like (the bleeding) and it looks like she never finished the ultrasound. If she did have a miscarriage, why is she still working? I mean, even if she didn't have one, she should not be working, she should be seeing a doctor but after a miscarriage you have to go through a few steps to remain healthy. Am I wrong? is there a case where you just go on with life as if you are just having a heavy period? Wouldn't you still have to check? When I was a teenager, a friend of mine had a miscarriage and didn't tell anyone. She still continue to do it all, including rehearsal and dance performance. A couple of days later she was in a hospital, and so messed up she cannot have children. Collins wants children, she is a doctor. She should know better. I hope the show has a moment when she pauses to regain her practical, logical senses.

 

Aside: "influencer" is the most outrageous "job" I have ever heard of. Why do people need so many others to tell them what, how, when and where to do things, and what is important? This is, indeed, the late stage capitalism when shallowness is the way to make money. I call it a grift

Edited February 24 by circumvent

[Notabug]

1 hour ago, circumvent said:

Has Collins really lost the baby? I don't know how it would look like (the bleeding) and it looks like she never finished the ultrasound. If she did have a miscarriage, why is she still working? I mean, even if she didn't have one, she should not be working, she should be seeing a doctor but after a miscarriage you have to go through a few steps to remain healthy. Am I wrong? is there a case where you just go on with life as if you are just having a heavy period? Wouldn't you still have to check? When I was a teenager, a friend of mine had a miscarriage and didn't tell anyone. She still continue to do it all, including rehearsal and dance performance. A couple of days later she was in a hospital, and so messed up she cannot have children. Collins wants children, she is a doctor. She should know better. I hope the show has a moment when she pauses to regain her practical, logical senses.

On the show? Probably.  In real life? Maybe.

While she was doing the ultrasound on herself, the screen showed what appeared to be a sagittal section of an empty uterus; but it wasn't onscreen long enough to be sure to me and I've done thousands of pelvic ultrasounds myself. She also wasn't holding the transducer low enough or in the right plane to get an actual sagittal section; but that's nitpicky and I'm sure we weren't supposed to know that.

In real life, a lot of women bleed in early pregnancy, even fairly significant amounts, and still carry.  The amount of blood we saw when she was in the restroom wasn't conclusive either way.  

If nothing else, she should've gone home and put her feet up, it decreases bleeding although it won't prevent a loss.  She also should've gotten in touch with her OB doc who could arrange a proper ultrasound and blood work to make the diagnosis.

[Morrigan2575]

4 hours ago, circumvent said:

hope not only because it is a cliche, at this point. Many people go through years of stress and manage to keep it not public. It would be much more interesting as a story if they just show how some people in some jobs just can't afford to blow off, even when it is a bad thing to keep it all in

I don't think it's just the stressful job. They've repeatedly pointed out how this day is the anniversary of the day his mentor died and we've seen recently that his Mentor died because Robby pulled him off the machine to put another patient in it. The fact that Robby has avoided working on this day for 4 years tells you this still affects him.

That goes above and beyond standard stress.  Plus many in the medical field have major PTSD from Covid so I wouldn't be the least bit shocked that Robby has a break at the end. 

I've even seen the speculation that the season finale will have Robby on the roof ans Abbot talking him off the ledge, similar to how the day started.

[circumvent]

1 hour ago, Morrigan2575 said:

I don't think it's just the stressful job. They've repeatedly pointed out how this day is the anniversary of the day his mentor died and we've seen recently that his Mentor died because Robby pulled him off the machine to put another patient in it. The fact that Robby has avoided working on this day for 4 years tells you this still affects him.

That goes above and beyond standard stress.  Plus many in the medical field have major PTSD from Covid so I wouldn't be the least bit shocked that Robby has a break at the end. 

I've even seen the speculation that the season finale will have Robby on the roof ans Abbot talking him off the ledge, similar to how the day started.

The show will take a deep dive in my ratings if they do what the speculators suggest. Still a cliche. Even with the real life situations being what it is, using it in the show would be a trope. I hope they are more creative than that.