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The View: Week of 1/20/2025


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5 hours ago, sugarbaker design said:

Joy has blinders on when it comes to Biden.  He most definitely would not have won.

Joy has specifically blamed misogyny and racism for Kamala's loss. I don't completely disagree. But...

With 20/20 hindsight, if Biden had announced he was not running for re-election right after the 2022 midterms, and the party had a primary, we might (might) have been able to avoid Trump 2.0. As it was, Democrats were bucking world-wide trends having to do with post-covid recovery and voter angst. Add to that Biden's difficulties with  communication, his aversion to taking credit when credit is due, and voter amnesia about Trump, and a win for either Joe or Kamala was not in the cards.

 

4 hours ago, JAYJAY1979 said:

Joy is weirded out by some calling Trump 'Daddy', and while I agree that it is weird, I have to ask if she was weirded out by the 'Mamala' nickname Drew Barrymore and some others gave to Kamala?

 

"Mamala" is what Doug's children began to call her after they married.

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I wish Alyssa wd only be allowed to say statements that were fact- checked ahead of time. 

Sunny and Ana  usually cite their sources. 

Joy needs to stop making quips during serious convos. She can do her spiel with jokes when it's her turn.  

This week Sarah said she was going to hold Trump responsible for what he says... when asked why she believes him.  How? How Sarah are you going to hold him accountable?  Sarah may be a nice person but way out of her depth during political convos, except to prop up Alyssa's hypocrisy and false claims.

Whoopi doesn't even count for me with her garbled comments. Did not miss her at all this week. 

The hosts are  predictable at this point. Don't know if I can take 4 more years of the same.

 

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17 hours ago, lookeyloo said:

I'll bet you are wrong. I would recognize it as what it was intended coming from her. She says a lot of outrageous things some could be construed as insulting me but seriously?  I am not humorless and don't consider her a threat. If you took that seriously that is your business. 

If you're saying did I think she was actually going to sever his head, NO. Therefore, I did NOT take her seriously. However, IMO it's NEVER okay to hold a bloody severed head (with HUGE smile on her face, no less) even for a comedian. Especially knowing how much most of Hollywood hated him. In that instance, I didn't find "her joke" the least bit funny at all.

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1 hour ago, Soapy Goddess said:

If you're saying did I think she was actually going to sever his head, NO. Therefore, I did NOT take her seriously. However, IMO it's NEVER okay to hold a bloody severed head (with HUGE smile on her face, no less) even for a comedian. Especially knowing how much most of Hollywood hated him. In that instance, I didn't find "her joke" the least bit funny at all.

And that is your prerogative. But she didn't need him to try and ruin her for a tasteless attempt at a joke. Or any president of any party for any comic's tasteless attempt at a joke.  Or insulting slurs in print as in a former president's wife. 

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1 minute ago, lookeyloo said:

And that is your prerogative. But she didn't need him to try and ruin her for a tasteless attempt at a joke. Or any president of any party for any comic's tasteless attempt at a joke.  Or insulting slurs in print as in a former president's wife. 

It's called show biz...along with cancel culture. He had nothing to do with it. You can blame all the late-night talk show hosts because that's what they do for a laugh. Whether it's Kathy Griffin or Roseanne Barr...they push their "comedy" a bit too far and then get upset when they're "cancelled". It happens to the best of them.

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3 hours ago, TheGreenKnight said:

The government itself was wielded against her. He very much had something to do with it.

Griffin had been very vocal about the government -related  sanctions since that picture.  She was put on a no fly list for tears which for a traveling comedienne meant canceling many gigs and losing lots of income, future dates, etc.   

Her income taxes were audited for several years costing her $ in accountants and lawyers to account for everything.   

Kathy's  reputation was damaged and associates did not want to be linked to her lest their professional lives were also impacted by the same punishments. 

She lost long time friends Anderson Cooper (and Jan 1 gig), Cher, etc. 

Her health suffered.  

It was a specifically directed to ruin her and a message to other comedians,  not just showbiz. 

Yes,  as GreenKnight stated, the government did have something to do with it.... or Trump's fragile ego and power. 

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24 minutes ago, Mollywolly555 said:

Griffin had been very vocal about the government -related  sanctions since that picture.  She was put on a no fly list for tears which for a traveling comedienne meant canceling many gigs and losing lots of income, future dates, etc.   

Her income taxes were audited for several years costing her $ in accountants and lawyers to account for everything.   

Kathy's  reputation was damaged and associates did not want to be linked to her lest their professional lives were also impacted by the same punishments. 

She lost long time friends Anderson Cooper (and Jan 1 gig), Cher, etc. 

Her health suffered.  

It was a specifically directed to ruin her and a message to other comedians,  not just showbiz. 

Yes,  as GreenKnight stated, the government did have something to do with it.... or Trump's fragile ego and power. 

Agree - we went to see her show the PTSD one.  Terrifying what she went through, and yes it was the government.  https://www.gq.com/story/kathy-griffin-government-targets-comic

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19 hours ago, Mollywolly555 said:

Griffin had been very vocal about the government -related  sanctions since that picture.  She was put on a no fly list for tears which for a traveling comedienne meant canceling many gigs and losing lots of income, future dates, etc.   

Her income taxes were audited for several years costing her $ in accountants and lawyers to account for everything.   

Kathy's  reputation was damaged and associates did not want to be linked to her lest their professional lives were also impacted by the same punishments. 

She lost long time friends Anderson Cooper (and Jan 1 gig), Cher, etc. 

Her health suffered.  

It was a specifically directed to ruin her and a message to other comedians,  not just showbiz. 

Yes,  as GreenKnight stated, the government did have something to do with it.... or Trump's fragile ego and power. 

Again, I don't blame anyone for being cautious. How would you like it if that severed & bloody head was a relative of yours?

If her reputation was damaged, it's her own damn fault. The "joke" was beyond tasteless and had no point whatsoever. I mean really, WAS there a point??

Anderson Copper didn't cancel her. CNN cancelled her.  At that point it's no wonder that other celebrities steered clear of her. 

Her health suffered because she had cancer. You can't blame cancer on her cancellation. 

And it's good that other comedians learned that you shouldn't be making a "joke" about killing ANYONE!

Trump had absolutely NOTHING to do with her misfortune. As the old saying goes "you made your bed, now you lie in it".

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1 hour ago, Dimity said:

Or how he keeps talking about invading other nations - allied nations at that.  Does he think that would be accomplished without bloodshed? 

Well in his mind he thinks they will just hand over their land willingly just to become part of MURICA ! 

Given the way he is taking aim at his own citizens it's not exactly a leap to think he would attack or at least try to bully other nations into submission & anyone who thinks otherwise is only fooling themselves.

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12 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

And I don't blame him one iota. Especially now since there have been several attempts on his life.

 

12 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

 

Trump had absolutely NOTHING to do with her misfortune. As the old saying goes "you made your bed, now you lie in it".

So which is it?  You don't blame him or he had nothing to do with it?

1 hour ago, Shrek said:

Well in his mind he thinks they will just hand over their land willingly just to become part of MURICA ! 

Given the way he is taking aim at his own citizens it's not exactly a leap to think he would attack or at least try to bully other nations into submission & anyone who thinks otherwise is only fooling themselves.

You know if he pulls us out of NATO other NATO countries will intervene when he tries to bully these countries into capitulating to whatever Trump wants. No matter what he thinks unlike Jack Dawson he is not king of the world. 

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On 1/24/2025 at 12:11 AM, shok said:

I don't think I've ever heard a spiritually rousing sermon there. 

"Our" Catholic church.  I went to the same Phoenix parish most of my life (First Communion, Confirmation, Marriage); the church wasn't built until I was 4-5 years old.  I loved all the ritual and "sameness," knowing/understanding all the Latin because our prayerbooks had the left page in Latin and the right in English.  The sermons never meant much to me as a kid/teenager...except when they would be begging for money (ugh!).  STILL...once a year, two missionaries (the same two priests) would visit every year for a Novena.  They would invite us to  nine evenings where they would tell us about the poverty in the country they were assigned, ask for money, and then PREACH!  OMG, is this what preaching is?  Hallelelujah!  

Those two priests had a packed house every one of those nine nights.  We didn't have a car and were used to the 2-mi walk to church every Sunday and school every weekday.  This, though, was at night (paved road), but no sidewalks.  We walked in gravel...happily!   Yeah--shock, I never heard a spiritually rousing sermon in my Catholic church into those missionaries flew into town!!!

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