Snazzy Daisy January 11 Share January 11 (edited) SEASON FINALE: Quote Tommy and Cami discuss whether to gamble or play it safe. The cartel makes a move. Air Date: Jan 12, 2025 Edited January 12 by Snazzy Daisy Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151393-s01e10-the-crumbs-of-hope/
leighdear January 12 Share January 12 (edited) I could have done without the under-age teen boink fest sleepover. Sheridan has got too much fascination with that, it's kinda disgusting. So is Marty dead? With his wife & daughters sobbing over his bed, it seems like it. If he was just asleep, the nursing staff wouldn't allow that much going on in his room, no matter how rich the guy is. I have to skip over the torture scenes, but I always love Andy Garcia. He's still hot, and is so good at being the bad guy. His deputy that overstepped & got taken out was just such a stereotypical, cartoon villain. Sheridan needs to do better with those. I'm still interested in Cooper's play, but the widow can take a backseat. Her "anguish" bores me. I skipped over that too. She also has the quietest baby in the state of Texas. Demi looked good, her plastic surgeon is top-notch. I think she actually does a pretty good Texas accent overall. I'd like to see her & Tommy running the company in season 2. Edited January 12 by leighdear 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151393-s01e10-the-crumbs-of-hope/#findComment-8552538
SeanBug January 12 Share January 12 7 minutes ago, leighdear said: I could have done without the under-age teen boink fest sleepover. Sheridan has got too much fascination with that, it's kinda disgusting. So is Marty dead? With his wife & daughters sobbing over his bed, it seems like it. If he was just asleep, the nursing staff wouldn't allow that much going on in his room, no matter how rich the guy is. I have to skip over the torture scenes, but I always love Andy Garcia. He's still hot, and is so good at being the bad guy. His deputy that overstepped & got taken out was just such a stereotypical, cartoon villain. Sheridan needs to do better with those. I'm still interested in Cooper's play, but the widow can take a backseat. Her "anguish" bores me. I skipped over that too. She also has the quietest baby in the state of Texas. Demi looked good, her plastic surgeon is top-notch. I think she actually does a pretty good Texas accent overall. I'd like to see her & Tommy running the company in season 2. I agree re the boink fest, torture scenes and the young widow. I ff'ed thru all that, and the stripper party for the assisted living group. I did figure out pretty quick that Tommy would end up working with the cartel on the deal he has to make for MTex to stay in business. Like while they were explaining to the young lawyer how oil drilling/frakking works. Actually, when the lawyer was explaining that Tommy was now President at the hospital and they were wondering if they could make this farm out deal work. I can't quite figure out how Cooper talked that farmer into signing with him, without the farmer thinking maybe I should talk to a lawyer and make sure this kid knows what he's talking about. Note to Taylor Sheridan: Your programs are much better when you write better female characters. Tone down Angela and Ainsley a little, knock off the stripper nonsense (male and female). You have female fans and I for one enjoy the strong confident types like in Wind River, 1923 or Lioness. Not this nonsense. 3 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151393-s01e10-the-crumbs-of-hope/#findComment-8552543
NeenerNeener January 12 Share January 12 27 minutes ago, SeanBug said: Note to Taylor Sheridan: Your programs are much better when you write better female characters. Tone down Angela and Ainsley a little, knock off the stripper nonsense (male and female). You have female fans and I for one enjoy the strong confident types like in Wind River, 1923 or Lioness. Not this nonsense. Seconded. Personally, I'd like Angela and Ainsley toned down A LOT on top of eliminating the stripper scenes. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151393-s01e10-the-crumbs-of-hope/#findComment-8552552
Chit Chat January 12 Share January 12 3 hours ago, leighdear said: So is Marty dead? With his wife & daughters sobbing over his bed, it seems like it. From what little I could see of the monitors (heartbeat, etc), there was no activity on them. I'd be surprised if he were still alive. I couldn't watch the beatdown either. Amazingly though, he still had all of his pearly whites intact!! 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151393-s01e10-the-crumbs-of-hope/#findComment-8552613
leighdear January 12 Share January 12 I just don't get why Sheridan is obsessed with a teenager handing out blow jobs to football players like they were Halloween candy. 17 may be the age of consent in Texas, but an active sex life is not mandatory in high school. FFS man, it may be your show but your male masturbatory fantasies should not be SO OBVIOUS. It really pisses off your female audience. At least he didn't hit all the girl-on-girl action he loaded up "Lioness" with. Small favors. 3 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151393-s01e10-the-crumbs-of-hope/#findComment-8552619
mythoughtis January 12 Share January 12 Ainsley, Riley, and Angela are not important to this show even though they take up a lot of screen time. They actually take away from it. As did the torture scenes by the way. We do not need a train station on this show. I would have no problem with the widow if that relationship had been held until season 2. Let the woman grieve first. Copper’s story arc could have been fine without the relationship aspect There used to be plenty of story to tell about the oil industry without some of these things 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151393-s01e10-the-crumbs-of-hope/#findComment-8552688
Snazzy Daisy January 12 Author Share January 12 Wait, Tommy simply pulls that nail out with his 2 fingers??! He gets beaten in the head with a hammer twice and he is still OK? Come on. 🙄 I was expecting Angela or Ainsley to be captured by the cartel, not Tommy himself. This makes more sense because either of them will be tied into the A-plot. As the new president of M-Tex Oil, Tommy needs a better security. Never take any chances with the cartel and his “beautiful friendship” with Gallino. Gallino wants his land to be explored for oil. Could Tommy be a landman for Gallino after M-Tex is done? 🤔 Ariana sorting through Elvio’s belongings and going down a memory lane shouldn’t have taken so much of screen time in the finale. Rebecca has no issues with ripping-off the grieving families, bending some truths but she isn’t keen on fracking? OK. 🙄 OVERALL — it’s an underwhelming season finale for me but it gives us a picture of what to expect in season 2. I fast forward through all scenes involving Ainsley, Angela and Ariana. The strip club scenes are pointless. Most of the cringey and less enjoyable moments in this show come from the female characters. 😣 6 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151393-s01e10-the-crumbs-of-hope/#findComment-8552690
Chit Chat January 12 Share January 12 2 hours ago, mythoughtis said: I would have no problem with the widow if that relationship had been held until season 2. Let the woman grieve first. Copper’s story arc could have been fine without the relationship aspect Tommy said it best when he told Cooper to move slow with the relationship. "Ariana is hurting in a way he can't understand and she's trying to find somewhere to put it." Perfectly said! 2 hours ago, Snazzy Daisy said: Wait, Tommy simply pulls that nail out with his 2 fingers?? He probably needs a tetanus shot after that! 3 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151393-s01e10-the-crumbs-of-hope/#findComment-8552745
WritinMan January 13 Share January 13 Well...that was definitely an episode. With a fair amount of fast-forwarding. I'm not sure if I'm coming back for season 2, if it happens. Good to see Demi do some acting. Hey Tommy...lock your doors. Have you not watched any movies? Do not let the cartel take you. I've had enough of Ainsley and Angela to last about four seasons. And Ariana. Why does Rebecca work for an oil company? Imagine if the show was about the meat industry, called Meatman and she was a vegetarian. Same level of goofy. I'm a little tired of the Sheridan-iverse. The same cliches and stereotypes are in each of his shows. I think he should have stuck with making movies, but it's probably hard to resist when a streamer comes knocking with a big ol' paycheck. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151393-s01e10-the-crumbs-of-hope/#findComment-8553968
SeanBug January 14 Share January 14 It's funny how so many of us fast forwarded thru half of this episode. Strippers, teen sex, anything involving A & A, Tommy being beaten with a hammer but no broken bones in his face, the widow/Cooper nonsense. There are a lot of good stories to tell about the oil business. Why Sheridan thinks people need all the misogynist bs is beyond me. I go to this well too often, but Wind River, one of his first big hits, has great female characters. The girl who dies at the beginning was a fucking warrior. And Elizabeth Olsen's fish out of water FBI agent, shutting down a stand off between the security guards and law enforcement. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151393-s01e10-the-crumbs-of-hope/#findComment-8554366
NJRadioGuy January 14 Share January 14 I'm also surprised that nobody mentioned the Paul Harvey cold open. Gawd how I miss that man's voice. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151393-s01e10-the-crumbs-of-hope/#findComment-8554534
amarante January 14 Share January 14 (edited) 12 hours ago, SeanBug said: It's funny how so many of us fast forwarded thru half of this episode. Strippers, teen sex, anything involving A & A, Tommy being beaten with a hammer but no broken bones in his face, the widow/Cooper nonsense. There are a lot of good stories to tell about the oil business. Why Sheridan thinks people need all the misogynist bs is beyond me. I go to this well too often, but Wind River, one of his first big hits, has great female characters. The girl who dies at the beginning was a fucking warrior. And Elizabeth Olsen's fish out of water FBI agent, shutting down a stand off between the security guards and law enforcement. I agree that the misogynistic element is there but it is the completely idiocy and boring nature of these scenes which caused me to fast forward I can hate watch misogyny like the way the lawyer is portrayed as an unrelenting bitch but I have absolutely no idea why anyone would think the scenes of the mother and daughter being ludicrously over-sexualized are of interest to anyone. Seniors at a strip show - boring and ridiculous with the added stupidity of the football player willing to strip for the sake of I am assuming a blow job. Anything involving the Lolita daughter is offensive - and not because I am a prude but because I truly don't believe that a teenage girl would be acting that way around her father OR his middle aged roommates FFS. I have no interest in seeing anyone being tortured. It doesn't move the plot forward to actually watch it as it could effectively happen off screen which would enable interesting plot points to be developed which actually need to be on camera. Edited January 15 by amarante 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151393-s01e10-the-crumbs-of-hope/#findComment-8554632
Lone Wolf January 15 Share January 15 On 1/12/2025 at 11:15 AM, Snazzy Daisy said: Wait, Tommy simply pulls that nail out with his 2 fingers??! He gets beaten in the head with a hammer twice and he is still OK? Come on. 🙄 OVERALL — it’s an underwhelming season finale for me but it gives us a picture of what to expect in season 2. I fast forward through all scenes involving Ainsley, Angela and Ariana. The strip club scenes are pointless. Most of the cringey and less enjoyable moments in this show come from the female characters. 😣 Hey, this is the guy who cut off the tip of his finger to save time rather than get proper medical attention - pulling out a nail is nothing to him. Couldn't agree more with your and others' thoughts on the mother and daughter. I guess they're supposed to be comic relief (Sheridan does the same thing in Tulsa King, but that show's more campy than this one in general), but OTT and cringe are the best adjectives for their shenanigans. The show would stand on its own (and better) if those unrealistic plotlines were eliminated. Is it just me, or does Billy Bob's Texas drawl make him sound like Hank Hill? I'll watch the next season (if there is one), but there's going to be a significant amount of hate incorporated. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151393-s01e10-the-crumbs-of-hope/#findComment-8555000
Lone Wolf January 15 Share January 15 17 hours ago, NJRadioGuy said: I'm also surprised that nobody mentioned the Paul Harvey cold open. Gawd how I miss that man's voice. Sadly, I think most contemporary viewers don't who PH was. Me? I looked forward to his news and The Rest Of The Story and I'd switch over to the AM station in my town that broadcasted him anytime I was near a radio. Always wondered if Jr. might take over for him, but apparently it wasn't an option. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151393-s01e10-the-crumbs-of-hope/#findComment-8555004
NJRadioGuy Wednesday at 06:24 PM Share Wednesday at 06:24 PM 5 hours ago, Lone Wolf said: Sadly, I think most contemporary viewers don't who PH was. Me? I looked forward to his news and The Rest Of The Story and I'd switch over to the AM station in my town that broadcasted him anytime I was near a radio. Always wondered if Jr. might take over for him, but apparently it wasn't an option. I still maintain that any talker that would play one episode of The Rest Of The Story every day would solidly own that timeslot for as long as it ran. Especially in rural markets. I think the very best-ever use of Paul Harvey's voice was the 2013 Super Bowl "So God Made a Farmer" Dodge truck commercial. That one still brings tears to my eyes, and I'm as far from a farmer as you can get. 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151393-s01e10-the-crumbs-of-hope/#findComment-8555202
NJRadioGuy Wednesday at 06:39 PM Share Wednesday at 06:39 PM And this is the full clip that was excerpted in Landman. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151393-s01e10-the-crumbs-of-hope/#findComment-8555220
Ottis Wednesday at 08:15 PM Share Wednesday at 08:15 PM By my count, roughly half the run time of this episode was taken up by 1) Angie and Ainsley and their old people escapades, 2) Monty and his heart attack 3) Cooper and Ariana and her grief, and 4) Ainsley and her nice guy boyfriend. Good thing I had a kitchen to clean. In the part of this show I am actually interested in, and that even includes the hardass lawyer who at least is doing her job, I'm amazed at how they all drive around alone, in often deserted areas and often at night. Seems like that leaves a lot of room for mischief. If they hired security they might reduce some of that. Also? Andy Garcia looks a lot different than the last time I saw him. On 1/12/2025 at 9:21 AM, SeanBug said: Note to Taylor Sheridan: Your programs are much better when you write better female characters. Tone down Angela and Ainsley a little, knock off the stripper nonsense (male and female). You have female fans and I for one enjoy the strong confident types like in Wind River, 1923 or Lioness. Not this nonsense. I believe he thinks he is writing the female characters for women viewers already. On 1/14/2025 at 9:00 AM, SeanBug said: It's funny how so many of us fast forwarded thru half of this episode. Ha, I just went back and read those comments after I wrote my draft above. Glad I'm not alone. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151393-s01e10-the-crumbs-of-hope/#findComment-8555312
tearsandhysteria Wednesday at 11:16 PM Share Wednesday at 11:16 PM I like the show in a way. Or maybe I just like BBT. I had to fast- forward through so much that I was like the second season will not be on my list. It'll be moved to one of those when I'm bored and have nothing else to watch. I am interested in Cooper but not the girlfriend that just cooks and cries while trying to get Cooper to be her new husband. Ainsley slick forcing her boyfriend into stripping with the reward of sex was just weird. Especially, when she was willing to give it away so freely anyway. She's pretty much a dog in heat. I don't know why he even bothered to strip. You don't have to earn her. I also didn't understand the lawyer lady (forgot her name) acting so scared to meet Tommy all the sudden. Well, she met him in a field before and saved her from a snake. Now all the sudden she is so scared for her life. I know he has problems with her as he should. But she isn't scared of him. That was nonsense. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151393-s01e10-the-crumbs-of-hope/#findComment-8555447
UnknownK Thursday at 01:06 AM Share Thursday at 01:06 AM They had an unpleasant meeting at the bar where he pretty much kicked the chair out from under her, plus now he is acting CEO and has the power to fire her. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151393-s01e10-the-crumbs-of-hope/#findComment-8555533
mythoughtis Thursday at 03:27 AM Share Thursday at 03:27 AM 2 hours ago, UnknownK said: They had an unpleasant meeting at the bar where he pretty much kicked the chair out from under her, plus now he is acting CEO and has the power to fire her. To elaborate, the unpleasant meeting was because she threatened to put all the blame on Cooper for the fatal work accident on his second day on the job. In addition to trying to cheat the widows out of the normal amount of money that the company usually paid out in these situations( Tommy’s words). 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151393-s01e10-the-crumbs-of-hope/#findComment-8556067
Snazzy Daisy Thursday at 07:41 PM Author Share Thursday at 07:41 PM Landman | Tommy Becomes the President of M-Tex (S1, E10) | Paramount+ Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151393-s01e10-the-crumbs-of-hope/#findComment-8556540
Ottis Thursday at 09:00 PM Share Thursday at 09:00 PM 17 hours ago, mythoughtis said: To elaborate, the unpleasant meeting was because she threatened to put all the blame on Cooper for the fatal work accident on his second day on the job. In addition to trying to cheat the widows out of the normal amount of money that the company usually paid out in these situations( Tommy’s words). More importantly, there may be a part of the lawyer who thinks it is possible that Cooper and his dad are capable of using violence to get what they want, and they both may now view her as a potential problem. What might they do to remove her as a problem beyond getting fired? That's why she is nervous now but wasn't nervous before. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151393-s01e10-the-crumbs-of-hope/#findComment-8556601
KittyKat425 Friday at 01:05 PM Share Friday at 01:05 PM On 1/12/2025 at 9:04 AM, leighdear said: I could have done without the under-age teen boink fest sleepover. Sheridan has got too much fascination with that, it's kinda disgusting. So is Marty dead? With his wife & daughters sobbing over his bed, it seems like it. If he was just asleep, the nursing staff wouldn't allow that much going on in his room, no matter how rich the guy is. I have to skip over the torture scenes, but I always love Andy Garcia. He's still hot, and is so good at being the bad guy. His deputy that overstepped & got taken out was just such a stereotypical, cartoon villain. Sheridan needs to do better with those. I'm still interested in Cooper's play, but the widow can take a backseat. Her "anguish" bores me. I skipped over that too. She also has the quietest baby in the state of Texas. Demi looked good, her plastic surgeon is top-notch. I think she actually does a pretty good Texas accent overall. I'd like to see her & Tommy running the company in season 2. It has been confirmed by the show and Jon Hamm that Marty did die at the end 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151393-s01e10-the-crumbs-of-hope/#findComment-8557007
rhygirl720 Saturday at 02:23 PM Share Saturday at 02:23 PM I don't fast forward, but I do multitask. Rebecca sure has some interesting morals You can't take the high ground when you attempted to railroad and cheat grieving widows, as well as threaten to blame Cooper when she knows he was not responsible. Serious eyeroll Ainsley is clearly written by someone who does not have a daughter. It's ridiculous. I love BBT but there is some wildly stupid writing going on here 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151393-s01e10-the-crumbs-of-hope/#findComment-8557907
Medicine Crow Saturday at 10:37 PM Share Saturday at 10:37 PM Is the last episode on tomorrow on Paramount+?? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151393-s01e10-the-crumbs-of-hope/#findComment-8558170
mythoughtis Yest. at 01:02 AM Share Yest. at 01:02 AM On 1/18/2025 at 4:37 PM, Medicine Crow said: Is the last episode on tomorrow on Paramount+?? Wasn’t this one the last episode? 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151393-s01e10-the-crumbs-of-hope/#findComment-8558714
Medicine Crow Yest. at 01:30 AM Share Yest. at 01:30 AM 27 minutes ago, mythoughtis said: Wasn’t this one the last episode? Yes, it was, but I can't believe it's over so soon!!! Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151393-s01e10-the-crumbs-of-hope/#findComment-8558805
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