S07.15 Written in My Own Heart’s Blood

[GHScorpiosRule]

 The American Revolution reaches the pivotal Battle of Monmouth; Lord John Grey and Ian race to save William; Brianna makes an important decision.

[areca]

Well, it's been a while since an episode was so engrossing, I thought I'd only been watching 20 minutes when the credits rolled.

[GHScorpiosRule]

YES!!! I got Jamie’s resignation to that asshat Lee!!!!

That’s all I got.

As to the finale, I have a horrible feeling that

Wee Ian is crying because we’re going 

tae lose Rollo!!!😭😭😭😢😭

I hope I’m wrong but Indinna think sae!

[Jodithgrace]

Ah Claire, I know you are an expert in all things medicinal, but the mold in Roquefort cheese is NOT penicillin, at least not the kind you need. I googled it. 
 

Bree and Roger have got to get on the same page. They can’t go back and forth through the stones willy nilly, hoping to end up in the same place. Mandy must have heard Roger, though, to cause her to run to the stones without her mother and Jem. 

I smiled at Jamie adding the “sir, “ to his resignation. That makes it acceptable. 

[Haleth]

Would anyone seriously think Claire is going to die?  

[GHScorpiosRule]

Oh! And those flashbacks to Culloden!!!!

UBER HAWT JAMIE FRRRRRASER!!!!

9 minutes ago, Jodithgrace said:

I smiled at Jamie adding the “sir, “ to his resignation. That makes it acceptable

I know, right? And just finishing watching Turn, I was reminded again what a sniveling, traitorous piece of SHIT Lee was, so it was glorious.

[Ziggy]

Did anyone else think the title card was Frank and Bree looking at a picture of Jamie?

[FnkyChkn34]

Nice to see that all of those things that were little easter eggs or whatever last week HAD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS WEEK!

Sorry, I got carried away.  But seriously.  And penicillin from Roquefort?  Nope.  The guy went to go get Rachel and her brother as fast as he could, but they took the time to stop by LaFayette for a picnic basket on their way back?  

It was a decent episode, I suppose, but we all know that Claire isn't going to die, and Bree and Roger will find each other.  I haven't read the books, that's not a spoiler - just common sense.  😉

Will Roger and Bree+ all go through the stones at the same time and end up in neither of their current two times but together in a different one?  (Maybe I should write these books... that's a good idea.)  

[GHScorpiosRule]

19 minutes ago, Ziggy said:

Did anyone else think the title card was Frank and Bree looking at a picture of Jamie?

TOTALLY as Frank and Bree, wasn’t paying attention to the painting, thinking maybe Tobias might show up.

Edited Saturday at 03:15 AM by GHScorpiosRule

[Jodithgrace]

The panting was of a woman on the battlefield that was a dead ringer for Claire. I did think it was Bree and Frank looking at it, but not making the connection. 
 

Sorry, I can’t seem to properly quote a post using my iPad. 

Edited Saturday at 03:13 AM by Jodithgrace

[nodorothyparker]

This is what Frank and young Bree were looking at. I admit it took me a bit to realize what I was seeing because I initially just thought it was an illustration of Molly Pitcher that book Claire is thinking about from that battle, wondering if she'll also meet her at some point that day. It is very close to a well known Currier and Ives print of Molly Pitcher.

 

Edited Saturday at 03:29 AM by nodorothyparker

[Ziggy]

58 minutes ago, Jodithgrace said:

The panting was of a woman on the battlefield that was a dead ringer for Claire. I did think it was Bree and Frank looking at it, but not making the connection. 
 

Sorry, I can’t seem to properly quote a post using my iPad. 

I did not notice Claire! Jamie is standing towards the back of the cannon, with his hand resting on the wheel.

[Linderhill]

I immediately thought of Molly Pitcher and the Battle of Monmouth too!  I knew it was coming (I've read all the books and was looking forward to them arriving there) and was trying to figure out how close to the actual battle field they were able to make Scotland.  I too grew up in the northeast and the revolutionary war was our main history schooling.  Funny thing, I remember learning more about Lafayette from the John Jakes Kent family Chronicles novels that were popular way back when.  I also work in DC and am very familiar with Lafayette Park.

At this point in the books I was more and more annoyed with spoiled William and more fond of Bree.  

[Anothermi]

2 hours ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

Sorry, I got carried away.  But seriously.  And penicillin from Roquefort?  Nope. 

I found a Wikipedia article that suggests it is possible: 

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Strains of the microorganism are also used to produce compounds that can be employed as antibiotics, flavours, and fragrances,[17] uses not regulated under the U.S. Toxic Substances Control Act. Its texture is chitinous.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penicillium_roqueforti

Although I agree that is may be far fetched, people were actually chewing medicinal plants that we now make pills from. Definitely a weak remedy compared to now, but better than nothing.  Outlander has never let the rudimentary-ness of a medicinal plant stop Claire from using them to get whatever benefit is possible at the time. 😎

[Haleth]

12 hours ago, Ziggy said:

I did not notice Claire! Jamie is standing towards the back of the cannon, with his hand resting on the wheel.

 I didn’t look closely enough to see either of them. I too thought it was the Molly Pitcher painting and just gave it a glance. 

[Jodithgrace]

Claire is to the far left, kneeling over a wounded soldier. I only saw that because an outlander group on Facebook posted a photo of the painting which pointed it out. 

[GHScorpiosRule]

5 minutes ago, Jodithgrace said:

Claire is to the far left, kneeling over a wounded soldier. I only saw that because an outlander group on Facebook posted a photo of the painting which pointed it out. 

I see her now.

[nodorothyparker]

I chalked the Roquefort cheese thing up to the shorthand that's happening with compressing so much of the books. Book Claire does tell Denny to pack the wound with Roquefort because it's pretty much that or nothing. They've already burned through most of their medicinal supplies treating the wounded and nobody's had time to be cultivating a new batch of home-brewed penicillin. So they take their chances with what they've got.

I'll admit here that much like Jamie's big lost at sea! no wait, there he is moment, Claire's random shooting doesn't really move me as much as the show might want it to. We know neither of them is really going to die in an unfinished series, so both events come off as rather maudlin and time wasting and are mostly interesting only for their fallout. But even there, the biggest result of Claire being shot is Jamie's melodramatic resignation and the next book clarifies that he was given command of a group whose enlistment was up literally in the next day or two anyway and bad form of resigning aside, he probably wasn't going to have anyone to command much longer after that in any case. So no one really cares all that much. It's mostly treated as an irritation in Bees as the war primarily moves south that rebel leadership treats Jamie with a certain amount of skepticism as an unreliable ally because of it.

William's story is heavily compressed as on the page it was more of a long chain of no good very bad events that went sideways on him instead of an outright hostage taking, but the show did a nice job combining book John and Hal's separate talks with him afterward that again hit on his angst of identity while throwing in a few good words for Jamie and laying the groundwork for William to finally start to see that he's a whole lot more than just a groom or a traitor.

Not sure how Buck thinks it's going to work bouncing around in the stones playing messenger, but kudos to Diarmaid Murtagh for making me care so much more about Buck onscreen than I ever did on the page. His "you're all my sons" was really moving coming from a man who thanks to time travel has now had the chance to meet multiple generations of his progeny and sees himself more useful as something of a shepherd for those generations than trying to get back to being a failed embittered husband whose own timeline has him dying this same year anyway. He and Roger toasting the mention of Alamance knowing that's what set all this in motion in the first place was a nice touch. 

Anyone who's had small children can sympathize with Bree as Mandy bolts headlong away from her at the most inopportune moment, but it's still funny that now all they can do is try to chase her through the stones and hope they somehow end up in the right place.

[GHScorpiosRule]

9 minutes ago, nodorothyparker said:

But even there, the biggest result of Claire being shot is Jamie's melodramatic resignation and the next book clarifies that he was given command of a group whose enlistment was up literally in the next day or two anyway and bad form of resigning aside, he probably wasn't going to have anyone to command much longer after that in any case. So no one really cares all that much. It's mostly treated as an irritation in Bees as the war primarily moves south that rebel leadership treats Jamie with a certain amount of skepticism as an unreliable ally because of it.

And, I don’t care. I LOVED it when I read how he quit, and I loved it when he did it in the show. I love Jamie. And since I stopped reading with buik 8, I guess I’m now a non-buik viewer as I don’t know what’s happened. And I haven’t read the buik thread since it came out and the initial comments were vague and didn’t give me any sense as to what’s been written, unlike the first eight with all of the discussion and back and forth.

[FnkyChkn34]

On 1/4/2025 at 12:20 AM, Anothermi said:

I found a Wikipedia article that suggests it is possible: 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penicillium_roqueforti

Although I agree that is may be far fetched, people were actually chewing medicinal plants that we now make pills from. Definitely a weak remedy compared to now, but better than nothing.  Outlander has never let the rudimentary-ness of a medicinal plant stop Claire from using them to get whatever benefit is possible at the time. 😎

Her telling them to pour alcohol, like whiskey, straight into her open wound would be more believable to me.  🤷‍♀️