S03.E01: You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet

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New mysteries unfold across generations, as the Landry family looks to their past to find the truth. 

Premiere Date: January 3, 2025     Hallmark     9pm

[sskrill]

No comments - am I the only one who watched??

Thought it was a good episode.  

I feel for Jacob, caught between 2 worlds.  I won't be surprised if he goes back to 1814 though.  But at least Kat and Del would have some peace knowing he is still alive and living the life he wants to.

The preview episodes look like this is going to be a fun season - lots going on.

Who pushed Alice in the pond?  Maybe young Colton?

[KaveDweller]

I thought it was a good episode too. Am intrigued about what the 1970s will be like.

I guess we have seen the last of the 1999 era?

I wonder who is sending Del the threatening letters. It doesn't really make sense, it isn't like she lied to cover up a crime. No one will believe this person if they try to out them about time travel.

[Notabug]

I wasn't really understanding how anyone could be threatening Del over not revealing the time travel aspect of the story.  It's not like it is commonplace or there is something illegal about it.  Nobody was hurt by her version of the story.  The story is also essentially true; Jacob was found by another family who were definitely 'off the grid'; she just left out the part that they lived 200+ years ago. 

I feel for Jacob, too, it cannot be easy to adjust to such a foreign world and the fact that his mother treats him like he is still a young child isn't helping, either. How he is going to make a life and a future in the present isn't very clear.  I think he will try to return to the 1800's but maybe end up in another timeline altogether.

17 minutes ago, sskrill said:

Who pushed Alice in the pond?  Maybe young Colton?

Colton wouldn't have pushed her though, unless there is something very specific in the past that he wants her to experience.  They seem to have all figured out that Colton used the pond and was a traveler too, which makes Alice' concerns about someone 'else' using the pond a little odd.  

[sskrill]

I don't think Del's lie has to do with time travel - I think its something else she hasn't revealed yet.  Maybe something to do with the Goodwins?

Aside from Alice, Kat, and Jacob, we know Colton and probably Casey are also using the pond.  So is it one of them, or someone we don't know about yet? Or someone we do know, but don't know they're traveling? 

So Casey is Alice's child or grandchild? And Kat is their great/grandmother?  That means Alice or Alice's child marries a Goodwin.

"I choose you" .. I wish you hadn't because you 2 have no chemistry.

ETA: Susannah clearly is in love with Kat, I'm sure she did what she did to spare her from Cyrus.  I think Kat has feelings for Susannah too, but Kat seems to have feelings for everyone. Brady, Elliott, Asian vet guy, Susannah .. I feel like I'm forgetting one more...

 

Edited January 4 by sskrill

[bunnyface]

8 hours ago, sskrill said:

I won't be surprised if he goes back to 1814 though.  But at least Kat and Del would have some peace knowing he is still alive and living the life he wants to.

I don't dislike Del, but I don't believe anything is going to give her peace that isn't *exactly* what she wants.  She's not much of a compromiser.  So anything less than Jacob being right there, with her, and under her thumb, is going to be less than peaceful for her and everyone around her.

[DMK]

I don’t know, at the end it seemed like Del had realized she needs to cut the apron strings off Jacob. 

The opening scene is pretty much the ultimate mystery: who’s the young couple who leaves a baby in a basket and jumps in the pond? Colton and Del? Which would mean that Del really did know about the pond and is majorly hiding that.

Or is the baby Cat, and Colton and Del found her?

Edited January 5 by DMK

[MJ Frog]

22 hours ago, sskrill said:

ETA: Susannah clearly is in love with Kat, I'm sure she did what she did to spare her from Cyrus.  I think Kat has feelings for Susannah too, but Kat seems to have feelings for everyone. Brady, Elliott, Asian vet guy, Susannah .. I feel like I'm forgetting one more...

Yes. This. I'm glad I'm not the only one picking up on the vibe that Susannah is very much in love and Kat seems to return some of those feelings. And Kat does seem to have feelings for a lot of people. Except Elliot, who is just a security blanket. You're never gonna be the one, dude, not in the way you want. Move on. Unless it turns out Kat is poly, which would be a real twist.

[RachelKM]

On 1/4/2025 at 11:19 AM, sskrill said:

ETA: Susannah clearly is in love with Kat, I'm sure she did what she did to spare her from Cyrus.  I think Kat has feelings for Susannah too, but Kat seems to have feelings for everyone. Brady, Elliott, Asian vet guy, Susannah .. I feel like I'm forgetting one more...

Susanna is definitely in love with Kat.  And I agree with @MJ Frog that Kat returns those feelings.  I don't necessarily think Kat has feelings for EVERYONE, at least not romantic love. But I'm inclined to agree that she feels at least some type of love for Susanna, Thomas, and Elliot (in descending order of chemistry).

Honestly, Susanna is the only one she appears to be in love with.  (And the music seemed to agree.)  Thomas feels more like excitement and lust. And Elliot seems like her safe place. But the way she looks at and expresses herself regarding Susanna seems almost as clear a declaration as Susanna's portrait.

[Woopwoopkitty]

I am less interested in who pushed Alice in to the pond and whose baby that is than I am other things.

The clock in Elliot's wall.....it will have significance somewhere down the line but I don't remember hints of this before.

We've learned about Cyrus and a little bit about Casey and Evelyn.  We've learned about Susanna and a little bit about Vic.  But neither of those family dynamics have been fleshed out to my satisfaction.  We see Colton and another boy in front of Elliot's house in the 70's, I'm guessing at that time Colton and Vic were friends.  Somewhere things went sideways as Vic is so bitter towards the Landry family, seemingly even more so than the Goodwins. In a small town like that even when people aren't in the same social class, it's not unusual for marriage to happen between them.  I'd like to know more about how the Armstrongs got done dirty...if they did.

I've seen speculation that Susanna married a Goodwin and that's how the porrtait ends up in Lingermore, but Susanna's gravestone lists her as an Armstrong and women back then didn't keep their maiden names, so I don't think she ever married.

I'm also interested in the backstory of Coyle's / the Pointe and how that plays into everything.

I thought Kat was way too dismissive of Alice's assertion that Casey could possibly be her future granddaughter.

Kat and Elliot.....oh hum.  I like Elliot and on the one hand I'm so happy that he's finally gotten what he wanted his whole life, but they just don't seem like they're going to last. He's way more into her than she is to him. She'll drop him in a heartbeat for a real-time Thomas.

I was confused by Del and Sam.  She sees him in the cafe and asks like they're not together anymore, and then later they're having sexy times up in the loft. What is that about? Is she just hiding the relationship from Jacob so he doesn't have to think of his momma with another man than his father?

And Jacob, poor kid, doesn't feel at home there. He loves the farm but has not friends or social lift.  I wonder if he and Danny will meet up again or if that is a throw away storyline.  

Also, Jacob had a brother William and a nephew Jacob who were never seen nor heard about since the original sighting.  I get that they needed William to exist to show the lineage from Elijah down to Colton, but odd that he was never seen when Kat when back to visit, nor does Jacob mention him at all.

Also, what happened to the dog?

[bybrandy]

I don’t think Hallmark is going there with Susannah and Kat but to me by far they have the most chem.

I think an older and wiser version of Alice pushed Alice into the pond.
 

I think Jacob is the baby and Colton and Del just found him and not being Jacob’s bio mom is what the blackmail is. But seriously I don’t think the blackmail has anything to do with Jacob’s return story. I think it is something from the past that we will learn this season. 

4 hours ago, Woopwoopkitty said:

Also, what happened to the dog?

He died in the 1790s?

[bunnyface]

14 hours ago, Woopwoopkitty said:

I am less interested in who pushed Alice in to the pond and whose baby that is than I am other things.

The clock in Elliot's wall.....it will have significance somewhere down the line but I don't remember hints of this before.

We've learned about Cyrus and a little bit about Casey and Evelyn.  We've learned about Susanna and a little bit about Vic.  But neither of those family dynamics have been fleshed out to my satisfaction.  We see Colton and another boy in front of Elliot's house in the 70's, I'm guessing at that time Colton and Vic were friends.  Somewhere things went sideways as Vic is so bitter towards the Landry family, seemingly even more so than the Goodwins. In a small town like that even when people aren't in the same social class, it's not unusual for marriage to happen between them.  I'd like to know more about how the Armstrongs got done dirty...if they did.

I've seen speculation that Susanna married a Goodwin and that's how the porrtait ends up in Lingermore, but Susanna's gravestone lists her as an Armstrong and women back then didn't keep their maiden names, so I don't think she ever married.

I'm also interested in the backstory of Coyle's / the Pointe and how that plays into everything.

I thought Kat was way too dismissive of Alice's assertion that Casey could possibly be her future granddaughter.

Kat and Elliot.....oh hum.  I like Elliot and on the one hand I'm so happy that he's finally gotten what he wanted his whole life, but they just don't seem like they're going to last. He's way more into her than she is to him. She'll drop him in a heartbeat for a real-time Thomas.

I was confused by Del and Sam.  She sees him in the cafe and asks like they're not together anymore, and then later they're having sexy times up in the loft. What is that about? Is she just hiding the relationship from Jacob so he doesn't have to think of his momma with another man than his father?

And Jacob, poor kid, doesn't feel at home there. He loves the farm but has not friends or social lift.  I wonder if he and Danny will meet up again or if that is a throw away storyline.  

Also, Jacob had a brother William and a nephew Jacob who were never seen nor heard about since the original sighting.  I get that they needed William to exist to show the lineage from Elijah down to Colton, but odd that he was never seen when Kat when back to visit, nor does Jacob mention him at all.

Also, what happened to the dog?

To add to the long list of questions:  They seem to be suggesting that Colton was a time traveler also and knew about the pond, but if he did, why did he spiral so badly when Jacob disappeared?  He spent all their money on investigators, but he should have known the pond was a possibility?  

I also know they can't show everything, but now that Del is in on it, I would like to see some acknowledgement, that hey, Alice you were the kid that hung out with us all summer in 1999!  Hey, Kat that was you at the grave that made me think my husband was having an affair!  

At this point I feel like before it's over we are going to find out Alice is her own great-grandmother or something.

[Suzysite]

23 hours ago, Woopwoopkitty said:

I've seen speculation that Susanna married a Goodwin and that's how the porrtait ends up in Lingermore, but Susanna's gravestone lists her as an Armstrong and women back then didn't keep their maiden names, so I don't think she ever married.

I was a bit confused as to who these Armstrong people are, then I realized you meant the Augustine family. 

[Woopwoopkitty]

On 1/7/2025 at 9:03 PM, bybrandy said:

I think Jacob is the baby and Colton and Del just found him and not being Jacob’s bio mom is what the blackmail is. But seriously I don’t think the blackmail has anything to do with Jacob’s return story. I think it is something from the past that we will learn this season. 

 

I thought of that too then discounted the theory on the assumption that Kat would be old enough to remember Del being pregnant or not.  So I think if something along those lines it would more likely be Kat not Jacob being found.

I also think the blackmail is related to something else, like finding/stealing a baby, not about Jacob's cover story.

[StaceyNotStacie]

I hope we haven’t seen the end of the 1800s crew.  I enjoyed Kat’s interactions with them. 
 

Any guesses on who Alice saw running past Elliot’s house?