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S01.E04: Second-Degree Engagement


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Lithuanian bride, Gabriella, faces criticism from her sister regarding her fiance, Jamal’s second-degree murder charges. Newly released Joseph moves into his cousin’s basement in Michigan, while Svea plans to go back to Germany. Olivia leaves her home in the UK in search of her imprisoned fiance, KJ’s missing birth certificate. Australian wife, Jessica, gets ready for her husband, Craig’s release in Kansas.

Original air date 2024.01.31

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"Birth Certificate" Bride was giving manufactured drama. It's not hard to get a copy; order it online, pay a small fee & they'll mail it to you. The idea that he had to have the original is ludicrous: I mean, what if there was a house fire or his birth parents had died or something? Also, I was suspicious about why the prisoner's mom was so distant... the bride only has the prisoner's side of the story about his past.

It was interesting & sad to watch Joseph (paired with "German Bride," or non-bride since she doesn't want to get married) struggle to get a job. I feel bad for him, but not gonna lie: I wouldn't hire him. I feel like something like this should be shown to teenage boys for educational purposes. Shame he couldn't do work release or whatever that one guy did. 

I haven't been this fascinated since I watched "Sister Wives." It just begs the question: why do these women settle for this?

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I honestly don’t know what Svea is really expecting from Joseph, this guy just left prison after more than a decade he’s not going to be able to just up and get an amazing job.  She says she likes her life as it is and doesn’t want to change it.  All fine and good, but why are you dating a newly released prisoner??

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I'm not sure where the forum for the episode Baby Steps is, so I'm posting here.

These "brides" have a specific need if they are pursuing men who are unattainable. The one girl (I can't remember any names) has a mother who specifically said to her, "Why do you choose to be unhappy?" And I agree with the mother, if the guys going to wait for 50 years what kind of marriage is that? You can tell she's used to the fine stuff cuz she's spoiled rotten. Is she still going to live at home and expect your parents to pay for everything? But then I also realized I think they're gypsies and that's just the whole difference way of thinking entirely.

Then there's the gal from Germany who seems to have her stuff together, but I don't see her ever leaving Germany to come live with her man in a basement suite. And when he's talking about pursuing art instead of working? That's a guy who's not even realistic about what he has to offer!

Then there's that one prisoner who keeps bugging his gal to get married, even though she's not divorced. He clearly has ADHD and given his lack of control, He will keep reoffending.

So I have many questions about all of the characters involved and their mental abilities. 

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I'm here...will do some ffing thru commercials and will catch up! Well, I just realized it's later than I thought. I won't catch up at this rate 😣!

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Gabriela, you are coming as yourself and you are leaving as yourself. There is NO girlfriend you and wifey you when your boo is behind bars and unable to leave with you. Dumbass.

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On 2/8/2024 at 2:24 AM, NowVoyager said:

"Birth Certificate" Bride was giving manufactured drama. It's not hard to get a copy; order it online, pay a small fee & they'll mail it to you. The idea that he had to have the original is ludicrous: I mean, what if there was a house fire or his birth parents had died or something? Also, I was suspicious about why the prisoner's mom was so distant... the bride only has the prisoner's side of the story about his past.

It was interesting & sad to watch Joseph (paired with "German Bride," or non-bride since she doesn't want to get married) struggle to get a job. I feel bad for him, but not gonna lie: I wouldn't hire him. I feel like something like this should be shown to teenage boys for educational purposes. Shame he couldn't do work release or whatever that one guy did. 

I haven't been this fascinated since I watched "Sister Wives." It just begs the question: why do these women settle for this?

i had to order my birth certificate from NY and i ordered in June 2023 and just got it a few days ago.

Yeah, why do they do this? The one marrying the guy who is in for many many years is crazy.  

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On 2/8/2024 at 11:54 AM, mostlylurking said:

I honestly don’t know what Svea is really expecting from Joseph, this guy just left prison after more than a decade he’s not going to be able to just up and get an amazing job.  She says she likes her life as it is and doesn’t want to change it.  All fine and good, but why are you dating a newly released prisoner??

I think she wanted another child maybe 🤔 she def treats him like one.

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I really am at a loss for what these women were expecting getting involved with men who just  spent a substantial amount of time in prison.  Australian chick with glasses telling her guy he looks like a thug?  Umm…probably not what he wants to hear.  And Svea laughed directly in Joseph’s face when he said he wanted to pursue his art.  That was mean.  I mean why not?  She said he needed to have dreams and pull his own weight.  Then she turns around and gets bent out of shape because he’s trying to work, get an apartment, do his art, etc. and has no time for her.

NONE of these men should be in a romantic relationship period.  They need to get their shit together.  Be there for him as a friend if need be, but really, in a romantic relationship??  What did these women think would happen??

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50 minutes ago, mostlylurking said:

I really am at a loss for what these women were expecting getting involved with men who just  spent a substantial amount of time in prison.  Australian chick with glasses telling her guy he looks like a thug?  Umm…probably not what he wants to hear.  And Svea laughed directly in Joseph’s face when he said he wanted to pursue his art.  That was mean.  I mean why not?  She said he needed to have dreams and pull his own weight.  Then she turns around and gets bent out of shape because he’s trying to work, get an apartment, do his art, etc. and has no time for her.

NONE of these men should be in a romantic relationship period.  They need to get their shit together.  Be there for him as a friend if need be, but really, in a romantic relationship??  What did these women think would happen??

i thought she was bent out of shape because he said he is going to quit his job to "do his art" which brings in no money.  I'd be pissed too.

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5 hours ago, cinsays said:

i thought she was bent out of shape because he said he is going to quit his job to "do his art" which brings in no money.  I'd be pissed too.

Yes, she was mad at that which was understandable. But then yesterday’s episode she was salty because he wasn’t putting enough time into their relationship because he was working, getting an apartment, and doing the art stuff. Like…pick a lane lady 🤷‍♀️

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Gabi…..Jamal is never getting out. He won’t get parole because he won’t accept responsibility for his crime. He might be innocent but I did some research and believe he is guilty.

I……I don't think having a baby right now is a good idea.

Good Lord Svea is kind of a rude bitch. Dude got out of prison, got a job, and a nice apartment. It was a bit cluttered so what? 

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