S01.E07: Track 7: She's Gone

[AnimeMania]

As her relationship with Bernie deepens, Simone struggles to come to terms with her identity while finding her voice in the nascent disco scene of New York City. A telegram from Daisy suggests she’s in trouble and Simone drops everything to rescue her. What she finds isn’t exactly what she expected.

Premiere Date: March 16, 2023    Prime Video

[chocolatine]

I'm so happy for Simone. She may not have what Daisy has, but she has a loyal fan base, a healthy relationship, and no out-of-control drug problems, so I hope she realizes after that trip that what she has is great.

I wonder whether all of Nicky's friends who "create for the sake of creating" are mooching off of him. Minor Irish nobility can't be *that* rich to sustain a group of hangers-on for a long time, can they?

[AuntieMame]

On 3/16/2023 at 10:36 PM, chocolatine said:

I'm so happy for Simone. She may not have what Daisy has, but she has a loyal fan base, a healthy relationship, and no out-of-control drug problems, so I hope she realizes after that trip that what she has is great.

I wonder whether all of Nicky's friends who "create for the sake of creating" are mooching off of him. Minor Irish nobility can't be *that* rich to sustain a group of hangers-on for a long time, can they?

Regarding the nobility? Maybe. The British aristocracy had to eat a few of their own during the depredations of the twentieth century, but once the dust settled the aristocracy still owns 30% of all land in England and 36% in Scotland. I’m assuming that those numbers are similar for Ireland since most Irish aristocracy is in fact Anglo-Irish aristocracy i.e. English. These are the people the revolutionaries are rebelling against. 
 
Simone is another character I really like. I think Daisy’s erstwhile husband is wrong. I don’t think she’s in love with Daisy. I think they’re beloved friends. 

Edited March 20, 2023 by AuntieMame
Correcting Autocorrect and My Own Mistake Regarding I.E. and E.G. I used to have a brain, alas no longer.

[Haleth]

Simone is right that Daisy is a selfish bitch.  Are we supposed to like Daisy?

[Straycat80]

3 hours ago, Haleth said:

Simone is right that Daisy is a selfish bitch.  Are we supposed to like Daisy?

IKR? I am not liking anything about Daisy. So far I’m not seeing any redeeming qualities in her. She’s selfish and bitchy. 

[HelloooKitty]

Each episode seems to make it more difficult to like Daisy and thus, more difficult to enjoy the show. 
I’ve already invested enough of my time that I’ll probably slog through the final 3 episodes but slog is the key word there. 
 

also, Daisy, bare feet on the table doesn’t make you a “whimsical free spirit”, it makes you nasty and gross. 

[magdalene]

I missed the band this episode. Like others I just don't like Daisy or Billy most of the time.  I don't think I am supposed to believe for a minute that this marriage isn't doomed from the start.

[MaggieG]

On 3/19/2023 at 1:37 AM, HelloooKitty said:

Each episode seems to make it more difficult to like Daisy and thus, more difficult to enjoy the show. 
I’ve already invested enough of my time that I’ll probably slog through the final 3 episodes but slog is the key word there. 
 

also, Daisy, bare feet on the table doesn’t make you a “whimsical free spirit”, it makes you nasty and gross. 

At the beginning of this episode I was a little annoyed that it seemed to focus on Simone. I really wanted to get back to the band. By the end of this episode, I loved Simone and was rooting for her to tell Daisy off and cheered when she called her a selfish bitch. I read the book and Daisy is easier to tolerate in the book. She's terrible in the show. 

[HelloooKitty]

12 hours ago, MaggieG said:

At the beginning of this episode I was a little annoyed that it seemed to focus on Simone. I really wanted to get back to the band. By the end of this episode, I loved Simone and was rooting for her to tell Daisy off and cheered when she called her a selfish bitch. I read the book and Daisy is easier to tolerate in the book. She's terrible in the show. 

Do you think Daisy is so awful bc of the movies characterization of her or because of the actors choices? What’s so different from the book?
 

[MaggieG]

 

14 hours ago, HelloooKitty said:

Do you think Daisy is so awful bc of the movies characterization of her or because of the actors choices? What’s so different from the book?
 

The book is told interview style so we're reading what the characters are saying and how they're describing how it happened. In the show, we're actually seeing it play it out. Speaking only for myself, reading Daisy describe the things she did vs seeing it actually play out and how she's acting is making me dislike her more on the show.

I know that Hollywood and the music industry is filled with people like her, but I also can't stand it when a person has a talent for singing and writing, has recorded a successful album and is going on a tour then just flits off to Greece and is all "I'm not going back", leaving the band, the record company and the tour company all high and dry. Obviously, she did go back and on the tour but would she have gone back if not for Simone? How many struggling musicians would kill to be in her shoes? Billy was right in that article, talent like Daisy is wasted on someone like Daisy.

[millennium]

This felt like a filler episode.   Props to Simone, although I would add "self-destructive" to "selfish bitch," the kind who gets off on taking everybody else down with them.

re: Nicky.   I hate men who fancy themselves saviors/protectors of the women they supposedly love, and I can't stand women who lap it up.  It's all just vanity.

[seth]

My wife & I have been enjoying/hating this show through Episode 7.

If you're a child of the 60s/70s even early 80s, you can't help but get pulled into the whole nascent-to-world-famous rock band narrative. Growing up with Beatles, Zeppelin, CSNY, Fleetwood Mac, et al, it's a shoe-in to want to follow these musicians unfolding evolution, and as a pro record producer for decades, I totally relate to all the drama inside & outside the recording studio.

But, as others have also opined, it's difficult to root for Daisy or Billy when they both, each in their own way, are total narcissists. Daisy claimed her time on stage at their Hawaii outdoor concert and hearing her songs come to life in the recording studio were both magic and the most fulfilled she ever felt. Then in this episode she tells Simone it was the most miserable time of her life and she had to irresponsibly bail to Greece with no warning or contact with her bandmates. Doesn't follow, poor writing. Or she's just such damaged goods, her mind & desires no longer make sense, even to her.

So we may finish out the series, but damn, is this self-absorbed 'free-spirit ever gonna apologize and get that her my-way-or-the-highway has a big impact on a lot of people. Prob not!😔

Sincerely hope Riley Keough isn't like this in real life...if she pulled that shit on me I'd kick her ass!

Edited April 5, 2023 by seth

[Hedgehog2022]

Joni Mitchell ran off to a Greek island in the late 60's after the initial wave of stardom and a Rolling Stone article listed all of her lovers and boyfriends. She stayed for several months and had a relationship with an ex Pat named Carey. Wrote a song about him and put it on her Blue album. This episode draws loosely on Joni fleeing the spotlight and crazyness of the "star making machinery".

 

[candle96]

On 4/14/2023 at 3:24 PM, Hedgehog2022 said:

Joni Mitchell ran off to a Greek island in the late 60's after the initial wave of stardom and a Rolling Stone article listed all of her lovers and boyfriends. She stayed for several months and had a relationship with an ex Pat named Carey. Wrote a song about him and put it on her Blue album. This episode draws loosely on Joni fleeing the spotlight and crazyness of the "star making machinery".

 

I love that song and know it well, and even knowing its origins, I hadn't put it all together! Thanks for the insight. :) If I recall, though, Carey was not some rich aristocrat, but rather a true hippie that maybe lived in a cave?? Hence the "my fingernails are dirty, I've got beach tar on my feet, and I miss my clean white linens and fancy French cologne."

And while I'm enjoying this show, Daisy Jones could never! Joni Mitchell's music is (and Stevie Nicks') is legions beyond this. 

[Hedgehog2022]

1 hour ago, candle96 said:

I love that song and know it well, and even knowing its origins, I hadn't put it all together! Thanks for the insight. :) If I recall, though, Carey was not some rich aristocrat, but rather a true hippie that maybe lived in a cave?? Hence the "my fingernails are dirty, I've got beach tar on my feet, and I miss my clean white linens and fancy French cologne."

And while I'm enjoying this show, Daisy Jones could never! Joni Mitchell's music is (and Stevie Nicks') is legions beyond this. 

"Carey" was a hippie drop out. He fled to the Greek Isles along wiht others like him. I believe he became a very successful financial executive after he repatrioted back to the States.

[Hanahope]

i don't understand the change the show made to Nicky from the book.  maybe the best actor for the part would never pull off being italian, so they made him irish?  gotta admit, the greek scenery was beautiful.