S01.E09: When Dinosaurs Roamed the Earth

[DearEvette]

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When a retired cop who was planning to go public with claims of corruption dies and it's initially ruled suicide, a skeptical Haywood directs her team to investigate. Also, Bentley and Quinlan grow closer.

Airdate: 11/27/2022

[possibilities]

Damn, that shooting hurt.

Edited November 28, 2022 by possibilities

[mythoughtis]

7 hours ago, possibilities said:

Damn, that shooting hurt.

Yes.  You have to wonder which officer was really targeted since this one didn’t normally drive 

[meira.hand]

I hate it when they manufacture a cliff hanger before a break. It is so transparent and so unnecessary. The minute I saw that ending I went to check the schedule and the next episode is in 6 weeks.

[shapeshifter]

This was a tightly written episode, IMO. 
I wonder how often "dinosaur" cops from the Bad Old Days who developed dementia have been taken out just the way it was done in this episode? Probably not too often. The issue here was that he was going to blab on a podcast that was not going to have anything edited out that might make cops look bad.
OTOH, I can imagine a retired cop with or without secrets who gets an Alzheimer's diagnosis might ask his friend to take him out at some point, including if his care was going to cost his family too much.


 

21 minutes ago, meira.hand said:

I hate it when they manufacture a cliff hanger before a break. It is so transparent and so unnecessary. The minute I saw that ending I went to check the schedule and the next episode is in 6 weeks.

On the positive side, if they have it be 6 weeks later on-show too, we won't have 6 weeks of wondering if he's going to make it, secret schmoopy lovelorn scenes, and then rehab or funeral scenes.

And IMDb shows Lavel Schley (Officer Andre Bentley) has several other projects going on, so maybe the timing of the hiatus was coincidental?



I enjoyed Richard Kind/Officer Yenko's version of speed-reading, which I used to do with scholarly journal articles when helping undergraduate college students do research so they could spend time reading just the relevant articles rather than just the ones that came up first in a search.

Edited November 28, 2022 by shapeshifter

[kwnyc]

Oh no, they did NOT shoot Officer Red Meat Heartthrob Rookie! Was he wearing his vest?

And I like how the show consistently addresses why the local community has fear/no respect for the cops (and how some of that racism/sexism continues today)

[Daff]

4 hours ago, meira.hand said:

I hate it when they manufacture a cliff hanger before a break. It is so transparent and so unnecessary. The minute I saw that ending I went to check the schedule and the next episode is in 6 weeks.

In the vein of cop characters saying “Why do they always run?”, we say, Why do you always leave us hanging? Arghh!

[OLynn33]

Agree with everyone, damn.

On a lighter note, vegetarian I can deal, but if someone says to me they don't eat sweets? They might as well say that they smoke cuz that's a relationship deal breaker. 😂

[possibilities]

Is there a diabetes exception? 

Asking for a friend....

[OLynn33]

17 hours ago, possibilities said:

Is there a diabetes exception

Hee. Ok yes that would be taken into consideration.

[Snazzy Daisy]

"Miss Navigation..."

Awww, Marvin being so polite to the car's navigation system. 🤣🤣🤣

UC bae really went dog-walking with Regina with no dog! This guy... 😂

And he makes her smiling and blushing like a 14-yo.

Edited November 30, 2022 by SnazzyDaisy

[jabRI]

I have my doubts about the retired cop story, he seemed to give himself up to easily, and to be walking the halls of a business he just threatened? Not sure, just seems there's more to it.

[NJRadioGuy]

1 hour ago, jabRI said:

I have my doubts about the retired cop story, he seemed to give himself up to easily, and to be walking the halls of a business he just threatened? Not sure, just seems there's more to it.

If this were a Netflix or HBO show I'd agree with you, but this a broadcast network show, it's likely going to be a standalone.

[NJRadioGuy]

I enjoyed this episode a lot, but from a procedural standpoint they made a bit of a blunder. The lack of stippling was given to the audience as "the clue" that maybe this wasn't a suicide, and that would very much be accurate. But what they didn't show or talk about was the most obvious thing: A GSR test, which is a very common for both victims and perps after a shooting.

Crime Scene techs or detectives would swab both hands for gunshot residue (powder blowback after a weapon is fired). If someone dies from a self-inflicted gunshot wound, the hand that fired the gun will test positive for GSR in a very specific way. A lack of GSR (or worse, on the wrong hand!) would be a massive red flag to investigators.

[zapper]

i laughed at the reel to reel in the podcaster's booth. he streams digital, he records digital. he stores digital. why would have have [what appeared to be] an old akai crossfield? Don't get me wrong, i have about 6 reel to reels (down two or three at the moment) so I like and respect the machines, but to have one stuck in a podcaster's booth was nothing more than eye candy for me. They didn't even have it threaded. sigh. 

[NJRadioGuy]

6 minutes ago, zapper said:

i laughed at the reel to reel in the podcaster's booth. he streams digital, he records digital. he stores digital. why would have have [what appeared to be] an old akai crossfield? Don't get me wrong, i have about 6 reel to reels (down two or three at the moment) so I like and respect the machines, but to have one stuck in a podcaster's booth was nothing more than eye candy for me. They didn't even have it threaded. sigh. 

Could be for playing back tape of old interviews or local musicians who are Very Old School. Or as electronic eye candy :)

[possibilities]

I guess reel to reel is a dinosaur, and this was an episode featuring dinosaurs.

[shapeshifter]

12 hours ago, NJRadioGuy said:

I enjoyed this episode a lot, but from a procedural standpoint they made a bit of a blunder. The lack of stippling was given to the audience as "the clue" that maybe this wasn't a suicide, and that would very much be accurate. But what they didn't show or talk about was the most obvious thing: A GSR test, which is a very common for both victims and perps after a shooting.

Crime Scene techs or detectives would swab both hands for gunshot residue (powder blowback after a weapon is fired). If someone dies from a self-inflicted gunshot wound, the hand that fired the gun will test positive for GSR in a very specific way. A lack of GSR (or worse, on the wrong hand!) would be a massive red flag to investigators.

I too thought it was odd/confusing that they mentioned lack of stippling but didn’t test for GSR. 
I figured that it could not be definitively proven that the presence of GSR hadn’t come from contact with the planted gun immediately after firing (maybe there was even a line cut for time about that), whereas the absence of GSR would give away that it wasn’t suicide, so there had to be some, right??

[NJRadioGuy]

3 hours ago, shapeshifter said:

I too thought it was odd/confusing that they mentioned lack of stippling but didn’t test for GSR. 
I figured that it could not be definitively proven that the presence of GSR hadn’t come from contact with the planted gun immediately after firing (maybe there was even a line cut for time about that), whereas the absence of GSR would give away that it wasn’t suicide, so there had to be some, right??

If the gun was planted post-mortem the only way he'd have even a little GSR on his hand would be if a second shot was fired with the doer's hand kinda-sorta around the vic's--which would be heard by neighbors and thus a giveaway to investigators. But even then there would be very little residue on the vic's hands, so...red flag.

The projectile's angle of entry would also be a telltale clue that the M.E.'s examination would have revealed the next day . Obviously the perp shot him from a distance (hence no stippling) and likely at a higher angle than if he was sitting in a chair or sofa. Sloppy work from an ex-detective, to be honest. But you know what they say, crime makes you stupid.

Edited December 1, 2022 by NJRadioGuy

[CheshireCat]

5 hours ago, zapper said:

i laughed at the reel to reel in the podcaster's booth. he streams digital, he records digital. he stores digital. why would have have [what appeared to be] an old akai crossfield? Don't get me wrong, i have about 6 reel to reels (down two or three at the moment) so I like and respect the machines, but to have one stuck in a podcaster's booth was nothing more than eye candy for me. They didn't even have it threaded. sigh. 

I did not understand a word of what you were saying 😂

[Snazzy Daisy]

On 12/1/2022 at 4:08 PM, CheshireCat said:

I did not understand a word of what you were saying 😂

The vintage creature… 😉 

[zapper]

it's a beauty, thanks for the still. And looking at the still, it's better than I thought. Looks to be a pro-end Pioneer with separate and detachable preamp sections. It they are done with it post filming, i'll take it off their hands :)