Doogie Kamealoha, M.D. - General Discussion

[BetterButter]

 

[SnarkShark]

The nickname seems silly here, but I'm sure they'll wank some explanation. 

[SVNBob]

On 8/3/2021 at 8:07 PM, SnarkShark said:

The nickname seems silly here, but I'm sure they'll wank some explanation. 

Probably via a direct comparison to the original Doogie. (Either the character or the show.)

Sounds like they did a version of the original theme song on the ukulele for this version.  That seems like a nice touch.

Edited August 7, 2021 by SVNBob

[SnarkShark]

9 minutes ago, SVNBob said:

Probably via a direct comparison to the original Doogie. (Either the character or the show.)

Sounds like they did a version of the original theme song on the ukulele for this version.  That seems like a nice touch.

Does that mean you're speculating it's actually a sequel and not a reboot? 

[Spartan Girl]

Is NPH going to cameo?

[SVNBob]

8 hours ago, SnarkShark said:

Does that mean you're speculating it's actually a sequel and not a reboot? 

Could be a sequel, in which case the "Doogie" name comes from someone who heard of/worked with the original 14-year-old doctor.

Or it could be a re-boot, but one where the original show was also on TV in their universe, so the nickname was someone making a reference to that show.

[Egg McMuffin]

This truly seems like a reboot no one asked for. When was the last time the original series was rerun? If you have to bring back a Steven Bochco/David Kelley creation, why not L.A. Law, which at least was a major hit? (In fairness, a reboot of that show has been proposed several times over the past few years, but hasn’t panned out yet).

Edited August 7, 2021 by Kyle

[SnarkShark]

2 hours ago, Kyle said:

This truly seems like a reboot no one asked for. When was the last time the original series was rerun? If you have to bring back a Steven Bochco/David Kelley creation, why not L.A. Law, which at least was a major hit? (In fairness, a reboot of that show has been proposed several times over the past few years, but hasn’t panned out yet).

December 2020.  They actually announced that Blair Underwood was producing and starring.  Admittedly its not in IMDB yet, but it's certainly not long enough to consider it a dead project. 

[Egg McMuffin]

There was also a reboot developed back in 2017 that never came to fruition.

[SoMuchTV]

On 8/7/2021 at 1:20 PM, Kyle said:

This truly seems like a reboot no one asked for. When was the last time the original series was rerun? If you have to bring back a Steven Bochco/David Kelley creation, why not L.A. Law, which at least was a major hit? (In fairness, a reboot of that show has been proposed several times over the past few years, but hasn’t panned out yet).

 

23 hours ago, SnarkShark said:

December 2020.  They actually announced that Blair Underwood was producing and starring.  Admittedly its not in IMDB yet, but it's certainly not long enough to consider it a dead project. 

 

14 minutes ago, Kyle said:

There was also a reboot developed back in 2017 that never came to fruition.

I'm confused - are we talking about Doogie or L. A. Law now?

[paulvdb]

Trailer:

 

On 8/7/2021 at 7:11 PM, SVNBob said:

Or it could be a re-boot, but one where the original show was also on TV in their universe, so the nickname was someone making a reference to that show.

The trailer confirms that you guessed correctly.

[SnarkShark]

It is SO weird to have a sequel that confirms the fictional status of the original. 

[Sarah 103]

On 8/7/2021 at 1:20 PM, Kyle said:

This truly seems like a reboot no one asked for. When was the last time the original series was rerun? If you have to bring back a Steven Bochco/David Kelley creation, why not L.A. Law, which at least was a major hit? (In fairness, a reboot of that show has been proposed several times over the past few years, but hasn’t panned out yet).

I know there's an L.A Law reboot in development, but it's only in development. Over five years ago, it felt like there were more than half a dozen Robin Hood projects in development and I think only two or three became actual movies that were made and released. 

On 8/29/2021 at 10:15 AM, SnarkShark said:

It is SO weird to have a sequel that confirms the fictional status of the original. 

This may come off as picky and annoying (and total apologies if it does), but I think this is more of a reboot than a sequel because it does not follow/include any of the characters or people related to the characters from the original series. 

[SnarkShark]

The first episode was actually okay.  Some Disney style cheese was inserted awkwardly in to the show, but... it was okay. 

Nobody asked for this, but it's not as bad as it could be. 

And... just watching Episode 1 of the original show now.  They lifted the entire opening sequence from it and I hadn't realized.  Like in the new show, Doogie takes and passes his driving test in the opening episode.  He's an equally awkward and overly cautious driver.  He's got a parent along just like in the new show, but it's his mom, whereas female Doogie had her Dad. He spots an accident and freaks out the instructor and cops the same way.  The dialogue with the cop about going to jail and "criminal negligence" is the same.  The ID thing and the leg injury is the same. It's kind of cool how well the new show reproduced this. 

I will say the scene plays a TINY bit different because NPH's 1988/89ish version of 16 looks like 12 (he actually WAS 16), whereas Peyton Elizabeth Lee's looks vague enough that you know she's pretty young, but you're not 100% sure HOW young (apparently she also was actually 16 when hers was filmed though). She's short, but you can at least conceive she could be older but young looking.  Whereas original Doogie...  you barely believed he was 16.

Edited September 11, 2021 by SnarkShark

[SnarkShark]

Dayum.  The whole episode is virtually identical.  That's quite a trick. 

There are certain gender and other reversals and tweaks, but you could show these side by side and its almost shot by shot, plot by plot, and mostly the same dialogue.   See if you can locate the original Ep 1 and watch it too.  It's freaky. 

Edited September 11, 2021 by SnarkShark

[SoMuchTV]

10 hours ago, SnarkShark said:

See if you can locate the original Ep 1 and watch it too.  It's freaky.

It’s on Hulu. 

[RedElf]

I used to work with Jason Scott Lee's sister, Robbie.  She was such a sweetheart.  And she was so proud of him when he got his big break.

 

[Sarah 103]

Is Dr. Kamealoha more advanced in her medical career than the young Dr. Howser was at the start of the older series?

Something about the new series I do not like is the blending of family life and work life. When Doogie was at the hospital, he was on his own. His father had his own medical practice outside of the hospital for most of the series. I liked that it allowed for a clear seperation of work life and family life.  

 Observation-not a Criticism: This show is very defintely aimed at a younger audience and feels more like a Disney tween sitcom. The original show was aimed more at adults although teenagers probably watched it too. 

 

[SnarkShark]

On 9/16/2021 at 11:01 PM, Sarah 103 said:

Something about the new series I do not like is the blending of family life and work life. 

 

This show is very defintely aimed at a younger audience and feels more like a Disney tween sitcom.

While the first episodes were almost identical, except for the parent at work bit (I also didn't like that), I agree there's also some goofball stuff snuck into the new show, A lot with the brothers field example.

That said, Vinny on the original show was an outright comedic character too. So there was a little of that.

Just out of curiosity, because I don't think I ever saw it, I'm watching the LAST episode of the original show right now (S4, E22, it lasted four seasons).  It's an odd episode.  Pretty well written though.  The then 19 year old Doogie, now considering himself an adult, goes on The Jenny Jones talk show with other now adult child prodigies and discovers how emotionally messed up they all are.  It's played comedically in the script, but really gets under Doogie's skin. The rest of the episode is him exploring that.  It includes the very heavy revelation (probably first introduced earlier in the series, although it wasn't in the first episode) that Lil' Doogie became a Doctor because he had Leukemia at age 6 and lived.  It didn't really have anything to do with his father.

I wonder if the new show will dare a similar reveal.  Agsin, I don't know when it actually happened in Doogie Howser, just that it becomes a plot point in the last episode.

Episode 1 of that same fourth season was about the L.A. riots.  I might check that out next. 

Edited September 19, 2021 by SnarkShark

[Sarah 103]

17 hours ago, SnarkShark said:

While the first episodes were almost identical, except for the parent at work bit (I also didn't like that), I agree there's also some goofball stuff snuck into the new show, A lot with the brothers field example.

That said, Vinny on the original show was an outright comedic character too. So there was a little of that.

Episode 1 of that same fourth season was about the L.A. riots.  I might check that out next. 

In the original series, you had Vinny as the comedic character, but most of the other characters were more serious. In this series, you have her father, her younger, brother, and her best friend as more comedic relief characters. For the modern series, they leaned more towards the comedy, which makes sense because it's Disney and they are aiming at tweens/teens. The older series was more of a dramedy aimed at slightly more adult audience. 

If you haven't seen it, the episode of the original series on the 1992 L.A riot is a fantastic episode.  

[SoMuchTV]

On 9/11/2021 at 2:14 PM, SoMuchTV said:

It’s on Hulu. 

And a heads up - I just went to watch the last episode on Hulu (as recommended above) and all 4 seasons are marked "exp. 12 days".  So if you were thinking of checking it out, looks like now's the time.

[CarpeFelis]

Just watched episode 5 and it kind of ticked me off.

Lahela steals and sells her mom’s shoes and suffers absolutely NO consequences for it—not even so much as a “You did WHAT?!” from Benny. Sure, he’s supposed to be super laid back, but that was ridiculous.

Then we have the mom terrorizing everyone on the basketball court to the point she injures a guy and she doesn’t apologize to him or even check on how he is; she just leaves that to everyone else. Great example to set in front of your kids, Clara. Dr. Lee tells her off for it, and rightly so, but Dr. Choi rewards her by complimenting her and offering to talk about the Chief of Staff job over lunch!

Exactly what kind of lessons is Disney trying to impart here?

[chediavolo]

On 10/6/2021 at 5:01 PM, CarpeFelis said:

Just watched episode 5 and it kind of ticked me off.

Lahela steals and sells her mom’s shoes and suffers absolutely NO consequences for it—not even so much as a “You did WHAT?!” from Benny. Sure, he’s supposed to be super laid back, but that was ridiculous.

Then we have the mom terrorizing everyone on the basketball court to the point she injures a guy and she doesn’t apologize to him or even check on how he is; she just leaves that to everyone else. Great example to set in front of your kids, Clara. Dr. Lee tells her off for it, and rightly so, but Dr. Choi rewards her by complimenting her and offering to talk about the Chief of Staff job over lunch!

Exactly what kind of lessons is Disney trying to impart here?

That pissed me off too. The girl gets absolutely no punishment for what she did no talking to no nothing. Except a tiny little you shouldn’t of done that type thing. And the mother is all like not even caring. Totally totally unbelievable. If you really watch a few Disney shows you will see that it is not the greatest thing for kids. Did anyone ever watch girl meets world? I thought it was cute but I’m a grown adult. The way they dressed that girl, like a little tart, was just mind blowing.

[Sarah 103]

Clara overreacted to her daughter’s initial interest in Dr. Goldstein. At first, she wanted to study with him because he was the leader in his field doing cutting edge research. I do not understand why studying with him means that she could would never again be able to help large number of people. Maybe someone who knows more about doctors and medical training can explain what I am missing.

I enjoyed the subplot with Brian and his suger hangover. I've been there and it's not fun (mine involved a chocolate fountain and too many marshmallows). 

Something interesting in this series is that Lahela is more isolated than her peers than Doogie was. In the original, I got the sense that Vinnie made a real effort to include Doogie. There were scenes of Doogie and Vinnie going on double-dates. I also remember scenes at parties.

In this series it seems like Steph has her life at school, and her friendship with Lahela is separate from that. I don’t know if it’s a covid thing, or the production team decided that Disney standards do not allow party scenes (and by party scene I mean teens hanging out and dancing, maybe drinking soda/soft drinks).

[anniebird]

I just watched Episode 9 - Longaberger Basket Company does NOT represent Pennsylvania. It's headquartered in Ohio and the iconic basket building is in Dresden Ohio. Sloppy research.

 

[paulvdb]

‘Doogie Kamealoha, M.D.’ Renewed For Season 2 By Disney+

[paulvdb]

Season 2 premieres on March 31.

[paulvdb]

I see that Disney+ dropped the whole season at once this time and not a new episode every week like they did with season 1.

[chediavolo]

I’m watching for the scenery. Has the father always been a slacker? Selling ices while his wife carry’s  90% financial responsibility & stress? Also, the youngest son is weird to the point maybe he needs counseling. 
“Doogie”: kiss your boyfriend goodbye.  

[SoMuchTV]

10 hours ago, chediavolo said:

Has the father always been a slacker? Selling ices while his wife carry’s  90% financial responsibility & stress?

There’s been some backstory about how he used to have some kind of high stress corporate job. But is running a small business and doing a lot of the heavy lifting for three kids, while your spouse has a demanding and presumably high paying job, really considered being a slacker? I’d disagree with that. I’m sure a lot of physicians’ spouses do less. 

[Artsda]

That was a good way to end it if there's no season 3. 

I liked them using Disney resort Aulani for an episode. 

Walter annoyed a lot with the fame to his head.  Then suddenly returned back to how he was before? Don't trust really sudden reverse. 

I think I preferred Nico, at least he went through a lot to show why he was confused. 

 

[KaveDweller]

This show is kind of silly...wouldn't Lahela need to finish her residency as an internal medicine specialist or something before being able to just go out on her own? I thought the whole point of picking a specialty was to determine who you train under? But I guess it was a good ending if the show isn't renewed. 

I figured the mother was pregnant as soon as she fainted. 

[Irish Mermaid]

I initially found Peyton Elizabeth Lee charming, but she relies a little too heavily on the Katie Holmes Method of Acting Adorable. Some of her mannerisms are uncanny, it’s like watching Joey Potter reincarnated as a Hawaiian teenager. If I had a dollar for every time she smiles with just one side of her mouth or wrinkles her nose at somebody, I could pay for my Disney+ subscription for the rest of the year. 

[chediavolo]

Mom was awfully happy to be pregnant at her age with 3kids already. No thanks! I want a life of my own at that point.

[BetterButter]

Doogie Kamealoha, M.D. pronounced dead at Disney+