Talented Tenth

Emily and Heather have never been great friends so I wouldn't put it past Heather to be shady with the fashion show. I also don't understand all of the Emily sympathy. She was the same one gleeful about the paparazzi info from Katie. She wants to see "Heather with her pants down".

Shannon didn't discuss John on camera. She refused to talk about him and even went to producers. All of the other women revealed what Shannon told them in private conversations.

She had phone records at the reunion. Louie admitted it was his number. Andy jumped in to try to save Teresa and Louie by claiming other Housewives had been "spoofed". Clearly, Louis called to intimidate Marge by letting her know he know how to reach her biological child. I'm not sure why some people think calling Marge's son is far-fetched giving his behavior. Louis said Bo Deitl had files on everyone. Bo Deitl is a scumbag. There were multiple domestic violence calls to the home with his ex wife. Dummy Louie wished suffering on Marge and her son. Why would he choose that family member out of everyone? Why not her step-children? Joe? The mom? Aunts and uncles? Why specifically the son who he was accused of calling? A stranger who has never been on the show. Louis is not smart. I think Margaret invited her. I think Dolores was worried this would hurt her friendship with Teresa, thus her position on the show. As long as Dolores has linked with Teresa, she's been has been safe. Also, they knew each other since they were teens.

Charlie's sandwich was better than Soo's, so to ensure that Soo gets into the competition along with Kalina, he makes all three compete again and gets rid of Charlie. 🙄

The party looked beautiful and the cast members all commented on how fabulous it was. I'm sure production had a hand in Erika performing as a set up for her residency show. I think Kyle's look would have been better with different hair. Even though Sutton and Kyle claim to be friends, they both at times do not act like friends to each other with the way they talk behind each other's backs and the way they approach each other. They are true frenemies. I think Dorit is gone after this season. She doesn't have a real connection to anyone at this point besides maybe Erika and they seem like work friends. Dorit has been skating and didn't bring much this season. I think Annemarie is also a one and done. The husband's rape allegations just before her debut were already a cloud and then she put the nail in the coffin with her esophagus bullshit.

At the reunion, Robyn expressed that it's not a good idea for a married man to be alone with a woman in a hotel room. The subtext was that the optics weren't good and there would be no issue had it not happened. She did not insinuate that Chris had bad intentions. I don't consider her reunions statements as incongruent with what she said during the season. The issue with Wendy is that she "made up" with Robyn but went on to laugh at the cheating rumors the next season and talked shit just like Candiace. How do they expect to be friends with Robyn while simultaneously displaying behavior of an enemy? Gizelle is the root of all of the division but since she's the face of the show, she's not going anywhere. I think the only way to fix it is for Gizelle to apologize to Wendy and Candiace for playing with their marriages. It will be unfair if they get rid of other people due to the mess that Gizelle has caused.

I think most people hesitate to publicly speak on their parents in a negative way. What people tend to do is highlight the positive. I don't like Kathy, but I think she's very image conscious. Regardless of who's right or wrong, Kathy likes to put on a united front to the public which is why she waited for cameras to be down before trashing Kyle and the rest of the cast. Reality tv isn't for Kathy. Stating this with no judgment, Kim is a drug addict which can be difficult to deal with. Kathy can be a nasty and mean woman. She also was accused of racial and gay slurs (three out of 4 children have been caught up in anti-gay, racist scandals). Kyle didn't choose what family to be born into. She seems like the most normal one. Maybe the conflict is due to the issues the others have. Garcelle didn't articulate it in the greatest way, but it's not simply the word; it's engaging with a Black woman and exaggerating what's happening to make the Black woman seem threatening which is where the "Karen" part comes in. Dorit called Garcelle a "bully" in a previous season which is ridiculous. In this past episode, Garcelle didn't "attack" Dorit by accurately stating that she brought up Sutton's make out session to embarrass her in front of the women. Is it possible that Dorit would have said these same things to a white woman in Garcelle's shoes? Perhaps. Garcelle's point is that she wants Dorit to be aware of who she's saying certain things to. Dorit knows not to say Happy Hannukah to people who aren't Jewish, she knows not to ask a sober person out for cocktails and she knows not to offer meat to a vegan. She can also know not to exaggerate and feed into racial discord when engaging with Black women. I don't know that Kyle implied that she puts on a happy face when things aren't happy; just that she doesn't want yelling and screaming in her home. Dealing with conflict doesn't have to be volatile; there can be a calm, rational discussion to sort things out.

The flashback showed that Erika apologized to Denise for the comment so Erika probably did draw a blank as to what Denise was referring to. If that really still is Denise's issue, she didn't articulate it and told Erika to watch the show. Bringing up something now that Erika apologized for years ago seems ridiculous.

Probably because of comments like yours.

"Name 'em" 7 times and refusing to let someone speak while being inebriated isn't handling something "pretty well".

Your discernment is impeccable. Like Wendy Williams used to say, any excuse is better than none. She came up with her "too raunchy" talk to cover up her embarrassment. I will say that Sutton's outfit didn't help. She was dressed like she was going to a gala instead of hip and cool like she wanted to be a part of the show. She's only 52 but dresses much older, conservatively and matronly at times. The other women were showing skin or in skin tight outfits. I can't imagine white pants on the floor and that beaded top pressing into the skin of the dancers.

The "faking" accusations are getting annoying to me. While anything's possible, Kyle is the face of the show, the glue of the show and a staple. She's been in the first chair for years at the reunion. With the exception of Dorit's questionable home invasion, this isn't a cast that has resorted to pulling stunts or having to come up with a "storyline" every year. Their wealth, connections and friendships are the storylines. The major events that we've seen all of these years were things that organically happened. It's implausible and super far-fetched to me that all of a sudden Kyle would fake marriage issues. The viewers have speculated that Mauricio has cheated for years and put so much stock in Allison Dubois but now that things have come to a head based on what people speculated about, it's fake?

I don't believe it was your intention, but this is misleading. You should only put quotation marks around what someone said verbatim. Quotes do not belong around personal interpretations of what someone said. The actual quote is: "I went to the bank. I took out $10,000 so I could have some money for Christmas gifts." I agree with the other poster that the money was the probably the gift. I also think the cash was going to be the gifts.

It's also possible that people can get fed up or that people change. It doesn't mean that things were fake before. Millions of people get married and divorced.

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