Ambrosefolly

It didn't fall apart when Jax, an international wealthy businessman sold his half of the hotel. It didn't happened when Kate Howard, an Ivy league educated, cultured and successful fashion editor was murdered by Ava and the hotel was left to her ungrateful and judgmental cousin Olivia who lacked her cousin's refinement. No, it happened when Carly, who pretty much decided she wanted to run a big fancy hotel just because but with no schooling, experience or even bringing advisors (I don't hear her mention anything in bringing advisors) into learning business or management, lost the hotel, that's when things went to crap. While it isn't out of the realm of possibility for someone with a humble background to work their way to the top, that has never been Carly's story. She was always exalted as a naturally good business person, despite never building or even running businesses for very long. I would argue between Nina and Carly, Nina would be naturally better at owning a hotel, because she grew up wealthy, so she would be exposed to legendary hotels around the world and that more exposure to luxury from an early age. Carly on the other hand, grew up in a trailer park. Nothing wrong with that, Kate Howard also had a humble background. But Carly never had any tales of working around the world. Also, even though she got her status by marrying rich, she never really left Port Charles to travel aboard, save for the occasional short trips to Australia & Europe. I remember several years ago Carly was talking to JMB's Lulu how her mother Laura was a "homebody" and how adventurous her and Lulu were. It was hilarious because since Carly had Michael in her twenties, she better much stayed put, while Laura went on international adventures with Luke and Robert, went on the run with Luke and Lucky for years, and lived in France with Lulu when Lulu was a toddler. The "homebody" myth came about because she wanted to stay put near family for young Lucky and later Lulu's sakes. If any of these writers ever ventured out their bubble, instead of making Carly so awesome at running a hotel, the threat could of come from Nina in talks to sell her half of the hotel to a private equity firm, and having the Olivia and staff rightfully freaked out about that. If you know anything about the bane of private equity, they ruin just about anything: fashion houses, food, and even health care Say what you will about Carly, but as long as she is living her luxurious life, she isn't that money hunger, but she is very possessive of the things that give her status, like that hotel. If I was the architect of the story, I would have that while the Metro Court was well reviewed, since Carly had no real business experience when she bought the hotel and with Jax and Kate gone and Olivia taking on a bigger role as co owner instead of a manager, it wasn't making the profits it should have. And Nina, now completely fed up with Carly and a lot on her own plate, was seriously considering selling her half of the hotel.

Correction: Frank Scanlon (the since passed Jay Pickett, who filled in for Lorenzo Alcazar and played Detective David Harper) is Christina Baldwin biodad. Chris Ramsey married her bio-mom in a bid for her to get custody as Lucy Coe and Scott Baldwin had adopted her. But yes Chris Ramsay would be excellent. While I often wished he would they would bring him to General Hospital, I felt that previous regimes would butcher the character since the previous regimes never understood nuance when it came to, well, anyone and often thought their "excellent" writing could have someone do something shitty but could redeem them. Like that time Luke ran over Jake but taking Aidan to hospital made up for that. (No joke, that was Luke's redemption)

Well @Bastet, someone just dying is a good enough reason to break news at a wedding (at least the person is a mutual friend and quietly to the side) , but I too prefer the overcorrection with good intentions to what Sonny and Brenda did, which was disregard the feeling of the bride, who already didn't like him, on her special day. One of the things that piss me off is, like with Sonny's grooming of Karen Wexler being dismissed in the 90s, it can seep into the real world. In a certain bio by a certain European prince, he confirmed rumors that he and his wife went around to people at his cousin's wedding reception telling them they were expecting, even though the wife wasn't showing much yet. To me this was particularly classless as he seemed the closest to that cousin and the cousin was forced to postpone her engagement announcement and wedding as he was more "senior" in the family, despite the fact she dated her husband for much longer. Something similar happened in the US version of Queer as Folk, where the one of the women in the lesbian couple proposed to her live in lover at her sister's wedding reception.

Friends always had season finales and premiers like that. Monica and Chandler first hooking up was done in a similar manner (Ross' wedding to Emily). It was a huge surprise in the season 4 finale and a big part of season 5 premier.

General Hospital. Again regarding Sonny and Brenda. This is a much smaller scale than to usually evil crap Sonny does and the show brushes aside, but man did a get an uptick in anger when it happened. Tracy and Luke were doing a proper wedding at her families home. During the reception Sonny and Brenda step away and Sonny proposes to Brenda. They come back in during the reception and ANNOUNCE IT. Tracy is IMHO, rightfully upset and calls it rude, but Luke brushes it off, calling it romantic. No Luke, Tracy is right, it was rude, so f*ck him too. And no, the reception doesn't mean the wedding is over, it is part of the wedding. The wedding isn't over until there is tear down of the hall and everyone is on their way home. No one should be announcing their own good news during other people's celebration unless you get explicit permission for whoever the guest(s) of honor. That is when everyone is together? Well sucks to suck and we all have video chats and phones. Of course later in the episode, it shows exactly why you don't do such a thing as the wedding guests were now focused on Sonny and Brenda and congratulating them. I always liked that on Friends, during Monica and Chandler's wedding, Rachel was doing her best to keep her pregnancy a secret so she wouldn't take the shine off of Monica, despite her own inner turmoil as it was unplanned.

It also ways got me and pissed me off how toothless they ended making the Qs in regards to Sonny. I remember when Emily died and Sonny, in a rare moment of honest on this show, admitted if someone did to him what he ended up doing to Monica, he would kill, so why didn't Monica ended carrying out a campaign to destroy him? She can be almost as big of a bitch as Tracy. I am still pissed they never had a scene LC confronting Michael when he decided to end his "revenge" against Sonny and gave back Avery, since he told her he would take care of the vendetta. A shame because I think SM's Sasha could credible pass as Stefan's long lost daughter.

Yeah, but Carly has been a straight up bitch to everyone woman on the canvas, and she has done the least amount to Olivia. However, I wonder if Olivia would be so pro Carly if she knew in addition to hiring Brooklynn, she and Spinelli were going to frame Dante as a dirty cop. The show is weird. It manufactures rivals that don't exist but ignore ones that should. Of course, one rivalry the show should have put to bed, Bobbie vs Lucy, they temporary reignited. I remember that during the cut scene from the Nurse Ball, they had Bobbie and Lucy final bury the hatchet, so I really hated it. I hated Jax and Carly together because I thought that after everything Carly did to AJ, she didn't deserve to a rich, kind handsome billionaire. However, I got the attraction from Jax is that Jax like to save the damsel, and Carly is a woman that perpetually needs to be saved. It sucks they never dealt with, but it seemed to be pretty true to character to have the men in her life take care of her "problems" (ie, other men she antagonized). The did it to shove Laura Wright into Genie Francis' return to GH. The show couldn't even be assed to do a reunion between Robert Scorpio and Laura, because she went into her catatonic state, she thought Robert was dead. Particularly weird since Robin got her out of that state, however temporarily.

Gilmore Girls. I come to realize between Dean Forester and Jesse, I preferred Dean because Dean felt real and felt that Jesse was the male counterpart of the Manic Pixie Dream Girl; the Literary Romantic Bad Boy. Apparently there are some Literary Romantic Bad Boy who aren't pretentious douches, but I haven't met any. Have I met teens that get clingy and dramatic with their first real relationship? Yes, several times (I volunteer with kids). I was going into detail, but realized I shouldn't but I will say that I know young teen girls and boys, in their first relationships, got even more dramatic and clingy than Dean. This kids are lovely and fun, but boy was their behavior off-putting and some even dangerous against themselves. While I preferred Dean and Rory, in retrospect, the first go around of their relationship, was far more true to life, from meeting, dating, falling in love and someone else catching Rory's eye and moving on to that guy. It was one of the most teenage things Rory did, and don't hold her picking Jesse over Dean against her. It happens all the time, especially with teenagers.

One thing I hated in general with a lot of storytelling is how quickly they are willing to make someone a deadbeat dad, and I especially hated it they did it with Lucky. I think having the boys (including Cam) visit Lucky offscreen would be a good way to explain their absence and have Lucky be present in their lives.

I watched the first round of Lucky the addict storyline, and no one was on Lucky's side, maybe Nicholas, once, speaking out in Lucky's favor, but it was only about letting Lucky think he was Jake's father, and not really about Liz taking up with Jason. Luke even told Liz that Lucky was a "loser," his word. No scenes of Luke dragging Lucky to woods to force a detox, no intervention with Nik, Lulu, Leslie and Bobbie, no one in the family (like his grandmother Leslie, a doctor) trying to take him to rehab. Lucky develops a life threatening drug addiction and no one in his family seems to be bothered, despite how loyal of a family member he was to them. I can't and won't speak for other Lucky fans, but one of the reasons I never turned against Lucky in the storyline because I knew that Lucky was being dragged through the mud in order to prop up Jason. Unlike JJ, GV's Lucky was never any use for Guza, so he had no problem throwing him under the bus, so Jason can be blameless. Lucky cheated on Liz, and for some reason Ric and Sam slept together (killing one of Alexis' better pairings in the process), freeing Jason and Liz to conceive Jake. When the show decided to go full steam on Liason, they had Sam and Lucky sleeping together first. That slightly backfired as Sam and Lucky pairing actually started to gain some traction, and Guza can't have anyone outshine Jason. This was Guza's MO. He did this before when Jason became the interloper in AJ and Courtney's relationship. They used Billy Warlock's (the AJ at the time) taking a leave to film the Baywatch reunion, to explain who was stalking Courtney in order to have Jason be the hero and have Courtney leave AJ and sleep with Jason right away. I do feel bad to a certain extent for Rebecca Herbst. Her charm and talent has kept her on the canvas, despite repeated attempts to ruin Liz and write her out. She didn't get much crap with the baby Jake paternity saga only because she was paired with Jason at the time, but both Carly and Monica blamed for keeping her son's paternity, never blaming Jason. I think there was a scene with Liz and Lucky getting into a physical fight. He never hit her and she threw the wedding ring at him (I believe) but he was rough with her. I think it was when Liz was leaving Lucky and moving out of the apartment, and Lucky was trying to get her the stay. And let me make this clear, even though I hated Liz keeping quiet about her own affair with Jason, even then, I believed that Liz had every right to leave and take Cam with her in order to keep them in a more stable environment. Talk about slated writing. They had to ignore what a vindictive, petty bitch he could be (post tumor) and pair them, even though Liz is no saint herself. I absolutely hated Friz, and don't think that the chem between the RHs was that great. The only saving grace is that he wasn't Jason. Exactly my thoughts. The show never has Liz deal with her trauma. Friz earned my ire when they hand the rape revisit storyline to Roger Hogworth (yes, I know I misspell it), even though the show had trashed Liz's character in the "Jake is Jason" storyline. As someone that only volunteers with a hospital's grief group, I was disgusted with Franco using his position as Jake's art therapist to get close to and aggressively stalk Liz. You aren't even allowed to be social media friends, even if you are a lowly volunteer with in a hospital.

I don't quibble with Ron keeping the show under budget, which is job #1. However, I also think he had little to do with GH not being cancelled. Frons, for whatever reason, preferred the show to AMC and OLTL. I think it was bc he was more or less on the same page about the mob, though he and his wife absolutely loved Courtney with Jason, which I'm sure Guza loathed writing. If he was looking at the books, OLTL should have been the last soap standing because it was doing better in the ratings

I wish Frank (and other show producers) treated all actors with the same amount of respect and not the ones they are friends, so it isn't a credit to me. In fact it seems to be quite a common occurrence in the enteratinment industry . Lindsay Morgan (former Kristina) wasn't treated particularly well by the show when she was on at the start of FV tenure. It is extra insulting because he often treats the remaining longterm cast of this show worse than his OLTL transplants. I will always stand by that he gave Liz Webber's storylines and arches, like the rape revisited and the art therapist job to RH's Franco because Roger was OLTL royalty, even though Franco was an awful character through and through.

My favorite part is years later, when Karen return to work at General Hospital, they had that f*cking scene where dumbass Jason said that a SAed 17 year old girl had a choice and was totally not coerced or groomed by an older male criminal, and then Karen thanking the asshole Sonny. Guess Sonny can't take any responsibility for any of the things he does and everyone has to excuse his shit. If you want to know what ended messing with Karen more, Sonny getting her to strip at his club and plying her with pills or Jagger cheating on her and her marriage breaking up, I'll settle. Karen moved on to other relationships and barely mentioned Jagger, but the whole drug addicted stripper haunted her once in the pilot storyline on Port Charles (where she was forced by gun point do it again) and later when she got hooked on pills again and Scotty and Lucy nearly lost custody of their adopted daughter because Karen watched her while high. I was more angered by the scene between her, Sonny, Jason and Robin on the docks in 1997 than the stripper storyline because it was dangerous to excuse Sonny grooming a teenage girl, especially as there were a far amount of teen girls watching at the time.

Disagree about Michael. Yes, now Sonny has many other kids, but Michael is still his favorite for the same reason he treasured Jason so much. As one poster eons ago said about the both of them, Sonny values them above all others because he successfully stole them completely from the Qs. He can't say that about any of his other kids. That is why Michael is such a spoiled brat despite being a grown man; he or his family demand everything be laid down for him, and normally he gets what he wants. That is why I liked Nelle, so much; she is one of the few that called him out on this.

Absolutely not. As a kid and teenager, Lucky could be self righteous, but her was never a never a selfish prick. The writing only came about because Guza creepy crush on SB's Jason & shitty show runners. I refuse to take anything they have done with the character as cannon over the last 20 years because TIIC are petty assholes that no one reins in.

This was just a pet theory. I concede I might be totally wrong and will chalked up to her writing what she knowns, gaps in what she doesn't know and her perception vs the audience. By all accounts, people loved working with her. I do buy the idea that this a vampire movie without supernatural elements & no finale girl as she said it was, but when EF starts talking class, I zone right out. I see Olivier like Joe from the tv show You, and the Cattons like Guinevere Beck, both Beck and the Cattons might not have been as great as they self believed but innocent, and their only crime being crossing paths with a monster in a human body that simultaneously idealized and resented them.

Here is my pet theory about Emerald Fennel's justifications about Oliver's actions and why they aren't quite landing every time she explains it. Emerald's father is a high end jeweler in the UK, well known to the point of having his own wikipedia page and a list of celebrities he made pieces for. However, that is the thing; he needed to sell to the nouveau rich and aristocracy to maintain an upper middle class status. While she could respect people like Elton John who earned his money on his talent, she probably deeply resents that that her family needed to service people of generational wealth and only the wealthy. The before mention Elton John could sell his music to everyone, rich, poor, middle class, all around the world, so he didn't need the nobility like Emerald's family did. Oliver is her stand in, upper middle class, Oxford educated and the Catton family is the stand in for the aristocratic clients her dad had to service. The thing is, there is so much class envy she projecting, it has blinded to Oliver, her stand-ins, own privilege. There are plenty of kids, even in the UK that would love to be in Oliver's position; nice middle class house and being educated at Oxford. A good portion of the audience turned against his character because unlike Tom Ripley, who grew up poor, Oliver also never knew real struggle in the same way that Felix never knew struggle. And as much as Emerald hates it, I am sure that she used a few of her father's connections to get her foot in the door in the world of entertainment. It didn't pave the way, it is more than the average person gets. The thing is to most Americans that watched the movie, the Cattons are the wealthy, weird, generous family whose kids threw the best parties, so why destroy or even hurt people that throw charity functions and lets their kids' friends tag along on the occasional luxurious trip?

Michael Gavey was the most pleasant character in the movie because he was the only authentic character.

Sonny didn't even stay in his stupid wheelchair for 5 minutes. Matt really pissed me off. He was one of the few people that had a reasonable "killing in the defense of others" as Lisa Niles was loose on the boat, had thrown Liz overboard and had killed a female crew member. If they wanted to write him off, they could had him accept a prestigious job at a different hospital.

I remember when he strangled Edward Quartermaine with his tie.

They screwed up the title! More like 40 Years of Stars and Storytelling, followed up by 20 years of blowing smoke up Maurice Bernard & Steve Burton's asses and picking the stupidest plots for the last 10 years."

Billy Taupe was an asshole, to be sure, but maybe, maybe if Mayfair hadn't pulled that stunt at the Reaping, the Covey wouldn't have disowned him as they did grow up as family. He did seem somewhat remorseful when his actions got Lucy reaped. One things for sure; he wasn't very smart. What kind of dumbass makes District 12's most powerful man's daughter his side piece? If Mayfair's dad wasn't such an indulgent father or a slightly smarter man, it would have been Billy's name, not Jessup or Lucy's name, called.

I got to say Mayfair Lipp from Hunger Games: The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes was the purest form of evil, along with her shithead mayor dad that has arisen since Dolores Umbridge. Everyone else, I can rationalize their evil in the movie. Highbottom and Dr. Gaul are borderline cartoon characters who went through a war during their adult life. Archane Crane was anprivileged, sheltered bitch who had been poached in status for the last ten years of her life, but seemed if she became someone trophy wife's, she would only be bugging her servants (but no, I didn't feel too sorry for her when her tribute killed her after she messed with her). Coral, can I blame Coral? She more than likely didn't volunteer as tribute, since it was before monetary reward, placed on a train with rabid bats, literally dumped into a zoo and finds out her "mentor" is an 18 year old's class project when dealing with her literal life and death struggle. No one was coming to her rescue. As for Coriolanus Snow, his family lost the fortune during the war, his father, mother and a baby sister dead. He is raised by his senile bigoted grandmother with only his slightly older cousin as his rock, with barely anything to eat. Mayfair on the other hand, grew up considerably well off, albeit, in a very poor district (so unlike Crane, should have a clearer picture on the real struggle of poverty). She was probably one of the few that didn't have to worry about getting a meal. She is the "other woman" in Lucy Gray's and Billy Taupe's relationship. When this is revealed, she doesn't pull an ending like Brandy's & Monica's "Boy is Mine" music video (if she didn't know) or have shame like Cassie Howard did in Euphoria, but has her father read off her rival's name to send Lucy Gray off to her death. I believe she did this because even though Lucy wanted nothing more to do with Billy, Mayfair couldn't compete with Lucy's sparkle, and Mayfair's nasty personality couldn't compensate for her lack of charisma. So she laughs as she sends this girl to her death, watches while Lucy is nearly killed on national tv. Does she show any remorse for that or by extension, getting Billy Taupe effectively kicked out his family? She instead double downs, tells everyone she is going her mayor daddy and getting everyone hanged and mocks Lucy Gray about how she isn't "all talk" and Lucy's time in the Capitol. That girl was a straight up sociopath, like I watched YouTube videos and people that are were diagnosed as sociopaths and talking about their experience, and she behaves exactly like that. She is way beyond the-stupid-out-of-touch rich person. Then we have her asshole dad. I get the feeling that one of the "perks" of being mayor is that your kids name is effectively removed from the reaping, but that asshole is the guy that ruined it for everyone else. Hope he got letters from the rest of the mayors, calling him out for being such a short sighted dumbass, since they probably can't travel there to beat the shit out of him .

There is a weird troupe of older people hooking up with their friend's barely legal kid, or kid in general. Especially if they knew said kid since they were an actual child. The older I get, the creepier it becomes. I've watched plenty of boys turn into young men, and a part of my mind will always see them as those children. I feel like their aunt because I've been interacting with them since they were very young. I've mentioned in other threads my distaste for Dr. Richard Burke and Monica on Friends. It was in that Sharon Lawerence/Brian Austin Green movie a million years ago and more recently Women Who Kill between Lucy Liu and Leo Howard's characters. I am not totally against the age gaps if, bare minimum, if the older isn't a close friend of one of the parents, and they meet when both are adults, but if both aren't checked off, I dip.

I don't hate Luke and Tracy as a couple and thought it was a great "second chapter love" to write, but I wanted Tracy to find a new love and ride into the sunset with him, as Luke is too much of a user, even if I thought he did love Tracy.