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😂I'm just trying to figure out where this is going, and it seemed like Maxie's overall lack of enthusiasm about another baby + Anna's rant to Robert spelling out Peter's guilt + Peter's anxiety about being exposed = he is going to be exposed and Maxie's "permanent connection" to him will subsequently be lost. Also, to the poster who asked about Maxie taking bitch lessons from Sam and Carly - it's unnecessary because Maxie has had bitch behavior down since she was a teenager. The memory that sticks out to me was when the Webber boys were little. She said something to Elizabeth about how Matt, Maxie-s then boyfriend, would never be attracted to someone with baby spit-up/smells on her clothing.

I don't believe Dev has feelings for Joss either. Maybe because there is zero chemistry in the moments he's been close to Joss/Eden. His acting doesn't sell what is written in the script. He also has zero chemistry with the Trina actress. I also don't believe he would go to Brando about a girl because he hasn't previously even had a one-on-scene with Brando to my knowledge. Sonny talking to Carly about how he doesn't want to "hurt" Avery with this news I think was just supposed to be more Emmy bait for MB. Avery is 4 years old, and has seen Mike here and there. I think the only time he was alone with her for awhile, he kept calling her by her deceased aunt's name. She did not have a strong connection with this man, to be oh so hurt and sad or devastated that he's gone. In contrast, my cousin's 4-year-old daughter saw (until COVID) her grandparents every week. They were "nanny care" when my cousin and her husband were at work, were present for all holidays and birthdays, etc. I imagine it would be very difficult to have a conversation with her if one of her always-there grandparents became ill and passed away. The time for Sonny to be all worried about hurting Avery was when her sister Kiki was murdered. Kiki was the one who spent a lot of time with Avery and gave her on-screen hugs. Molly's reaction to most situations is giant eyes. It's ridiculous. When she was watching with giant eyes as TJ asked Brando to play basketball in the future, you would think Molly is pregnant and fears that TJ will somehow figure out he is not the father in that conversation. Hey, don't underestimate the perks of on-call/drive-home service when you're in the Mob! That would have been the logical thing, yes. But I doubt the writers or even Sonny remember Kiki at this point. They are not related. Dev is essentially Josslyn's foster brother. It's beyond a bad idea to have two teenagers in the same house dating/crushing on each other. Dev needs to actually talk to teenagers not named Joss, Cam, and Trina. Seriously. A long-time family friend had serious osteoporosis (various falls and injuries over the years). However, she passed away years ago because of something that got into her lungs and compromised her breathing. They are on good terms, more or less. Lulu stopped hating Elizabeth for cheating on Lucky a long time ago. The last time they really interacted regularly and were friendly with each other was approx. a year ago, during the "our children Charlotte and Aiden are cousins but enemies because Charlotte is bullying Aiden" storyline. I think Lulu telling Elizabeth that Laura would be glad to help her out financially if needed, and bringing up her memories of being the little sis during the Nikolas/Lucky/Elizabeth/Emily teen history, was intended to show that these former SILs are on good terms. ETA: I guess Maxie is being chem tested with Brando, to give her a place to go when the Peter situation blows up. She seems to find Brando attractive, is totally unenthusiastic about having a third kid and possibly a new, bigger car for kiddos. I guess the rage and pain when Peter is exposed will cause a miscarriage? I was wondering if the mystery hand who knows Robert/is holding Holly hostage will turn out to be Jerry Jax. Maybe he's working with Alex, who knows.

If the actor's in his 30s, I guess it's believable that Brando became a father at about age 16. I personally have a cousin whose son was born when she was 15 (she was pretty good at hiding the pregnancy from all of us). I totally agree. The only thing they have in common is they both have an adult child who's been injured because of Sonny shooting his gun, and are both grandparents. Robert rightly pointed out that Olivia's life experience is as a civilian in Bensonhurst and Port Charles. (She knows only the basics of his history as a spy, father and husband. She just thinks it's fun to play spy.) Is their trip the first time she's been outside of New York? Yup, Frisco is the director and he is really indebted to the Scorpio brothers because: A) Robert got him into his WSB career. B) Mac has been Maxie's father for 20 + years now, ever since Frisco permanently abandoned Felicia and Maxie to devote himself to the WSB. (I don't count Georgie because Frisco only participated in conceiving her).

I didn't say anything about those four being great peers. But it seems rather weird for Brando to go from being buddies with Carly and bonding over baby Donna, and appearing to become some sort of allies/friends with Sam and Jason, to wanting to spend time with the police commissioner's son and Sonny's half-brother's daughter esp. considering they don't have his life experience. Although I can absolutely understand TJ wanting to hang out with Brando considering his only guy friend on the Show ever before this was Morgan. The whole thing is just beyond stoopid. And makes Robert!Fucking!Scorpio! Look stoopid!🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 This Show has some lazy writers, so both Anna and Robert have been made to look stupid, or like crappy people, for plot point purposes. Examples include Robert's "eh, she had Mac and she turned out well" response to Anna saying they should have been there for Robin as she was growing up. Anna's "this means I'm old - the horror - I need to go drink at Luke's casino" reaction to finding out that Robin was pregnant with Emma when she knew how much having a baby meant to Robin. Making no attempt to see Robin when Robin "dumped Patrick and Emma" and was "living happily in Paris." Anna and Robert together getting outsmarted so they were locked up together and couldn't figure out a way to escape so Robin was a prisoner of circumstances. All of Anna's behavior regarding Peter. Now the Show runners think Robert needs to be "convinced Holly is dead" so this is the lame way they do it despite the fact that Robert just went through this same scenario with his supposedly dead daughter in 2012 and they should know the history enough not to approve this from writers. This related to what has always bothered me about Robin: her unwillingness to acknowledge that her parents and their choices directly impacted how she handled things in her relationship with Patrick, and that she has severe abandonment issues. She told baby Emma "if you ever need a hero, he's your guy" and would refer to either or both of her parents as heroes. My response is always that Robin didn't need "heroes," she needed parents to raise her and be there for her no matter what. Anna has so barely been there for Robin in her adult life that she remarked (after her first/maybe only experience of hearing Robin speak at the Nurse's Ball) that hearing Robin speak with passion for the cause was moving. REALLY?!

Seriously. The wide-eyed horror when she sees TJ and Brando being friendly, and extreme nervousness when she's in proximity to Brando is really over the top.🙄 So, Robert hears about a burned body that matches Holly's size and he is given Holly's "for show" wedding ring, and absolutely believes she's dead to the point he's apologizing to Ethan? It's not like this exact same set-up was used earlier this decade to convince Patrick, Mac, Robert and Anna that Robin was dead, or anything. Patrick was even given Robin's wedding ring. And it's not like the exact same set-up was used previously on Robert's best friend Luke, to convince them all that teenage Lucky was dead and "even the WSB" said so. Holly being locked in a room and screaming at a camera to let her out is an exact rip-off of the last scenes for JJ's Lucky before JJ left the show. Brando agreed with Sonny that he will continue to pose as "father of Dev," and Dev is supposed to be a high school senior (according to Cam recently, re: the teen quad). That makes Dev 17 to 18 years old. So unless Brando became a dad when he was approx. 8 years old, how in the world are Molly and TJ his peer group? I thought the audience was supposed to understand he's a 40 something/close in age to Sam, Jason, and Carly?

NO Thank you! Robin doesn't need two retcon siblings (I'm still hoping "Peter" turns out to be Alex's kid.) Maybe I'm remembering wrong, but I thought Ethan was invented because TG wanted Luke to have a son not played by GV (who was in the role of Lucky Spencer at the time NP started in the role of Ethan). Same. Did WK and IR have some sort of major falling out? The Show's narrative over the years is that Ned is Jax's best guy friend and Alexis is Jax's best lady friend. It's jarring to me that Jax hears from Willow that BL got her throat slashed and BL confirmed Nelle did it but Jax didn't go running to Ned's side to offer him support. As far as I'm aware, Ned has never even acknowledged in the last few months that Jax is back in Port Charles. To me that is as glaring as Kristina not being mentioned or seen at all during the "Mike is dying of Alzheimer's" storyline. There really needs to be at least one scene of Ned, Jax and Alexis instead of Carly and Nina monopolizing the majority of Jax's time. Ethan looks much better than he did when he was a GH cast member. Olivia was in a relationship with Johnny Z. when Ethan and Johnny were friends. Also, Ethan is Lulu's brother and Lulu was dating "Dominic" (later revealed to be Dante, Olivia and Sonny's son, when Sonny shot him) at the time Ethan was on the show. Kristina also had a big crush on Ethan when she was a teenager and (I guess in part because she was Dante's sister) Olivia tended to get all up in Kristina's business like a self-appointed stepmother. THIS. The only honesty I could see regarding Mike's previous relationships in Port Charles was the warmth between him and Elizabeth. I think my favorite Max Gail scene was the "Friz" non-wedding day when Mike saw Elizabeth and brought up his memories of her and Lucky. Elizabeth was fond of Mike back in the days she worked at Kelly's and hung out with Lucky, Emily and Nikolas. Mike was also running Kelly's when popular waitress Georgie Jones was murdered. I hope Mac, Felicia and Maxie get to have a moment of remembering Mike's connection to Georgie. Maybe the Show could have one honest moment, - Sonny vowing to his children that he will never go years without seeing/speaking to them like it was with him and Mike?

It's fine if Ava thinks of Elizabeth as simpering and doesn't care to say nice things about her. I have a problem with her saying "giving into Elizabeth's simpering ways" as if Elizabeth has been trying to seduce Nikolas for months. It's the kind of female-blaming I loathe especially considering that Ava has been purposefully getting close to Elizabeth's husband and hoping that Nikolas would make a move on Elizabeth so that she would gain financially but oops oh well my friend, Elizabeth's husband gets his heart broken. That's shitty especially after she let Franco think for at least a decade that he was Kiki's father and he was hurt to find out that was not the case. THIS. Unlike Michael and Josslyn, Mike is the one grandparent Kristina has ever known. She is the eldest granddaughter, who should mention Avery and Donna in goodbye scenes as she looks at their photos on her phone. I would actually like to see her reunite with big brother Dante right outside out Mike's room, Dante and Kristina should have the last goodbye scenes. Dante is the one who found Mike and Avery when Mike's disease was progressing and he wandered off with Avery. Also, after all the fuss about Gladys being Mike's cousin, mother of Brando whom Sonny bribed for Dev's sake, and then he bought Gladys a car so she could "go visit Mike" as often as she wanted, does she get to say goodbye? On an unrelated note, I'm sorry BL is even speaking period. After she drugged and tried to rape her friend Dante for money, she is lucky Dante's mother would tolerate her existence in the same room again let alone give her a free room. I don't care that BL is Ned's daughter. Olivia has been Dante's mother a helluva lot longer than she's been Ned's wife.

Get your pillow ready, Ciarra. I watched part of the Show today because I unexpectedly had some free time and that was NOT a good choice. Sonny and Carly getting all excited that Mike opened his eyes makes me want you to go after both of them. However, @GHScorpiosRule should definitely watch to see Robert in a tux. Robert in his tux and Olivia in her red dress were the only positive things I saw. Seriously, Olivia questioning Robert's skills as a spy and scoffing that she can handle herself with Raj because she's been hit on before made it clear she is not a good potential match for Robert. Honey, this isn't Bensonhurst. Robert is right that you're a civilian in a strange place with dangerous people, and he doesn't want to explain to your husband that you got kidnapped. Robert, for the love of all that is Holy please shove married Olivia away if she tries to kiss you. She certainly seems like she wants to cheat on Ned with you, Robert. Ava should be smacked for "did you give in to Elizabeth's simpering ways" question. How could Elizabeth be some seductress of Nikolas when she and Nikolas are the ones trying to manipulate Franco and Elizabeth to cheat? And she showed zero remorse/sadness at the possibility of Elizabeth and Nikolas sleeping together, which means her supposed friend Franco would be devastated. Ugh. That hate sex was not exactly a shocking twist, Show. I literally gagged at Carly's dream where "Mike found a daughter in her after Courtney died, and she found a father in him" and their mutual tears. Spare meeee. Same for Sonny wondering to Carly if Mike's dreaming of dancing with Adele in the family kitchen. WTF?! I feel bad for Chase that he apparently is settling for BL. He calls her manipulative, she says yes, he shrugs and accepts it and and takes her wherever she wants to go. Lovely.

Franco hid in her backseat on 8-17-16. It gave her a scare, and she was angry because it was a creepy move and she definitely locked her car. His response was well, your window was open a little bit so that gave me the opportunity to break-in and this was the only way because I have to talk to you. She told him she didn't think she could be with him because his past continues to pop up and that makes her uncomfortable. He then launched into the "please believe in me" clinging/begging behavior ... and here we are. The elevator incident that Teevee329 mentioned was before that, on 7-14-16. He was confronting her about believing/not believing in him. Another scene in my opinion that told me she was getting together with Franco because of her own issues was on 7-29-16. Franco asks why she's on a date with him after she pushed him away. She responds that Ric was giving her a hard time because she was friends with him, and that she was putting her boys at risk. She got angry and called Franco to spite Ric. She flat out said that she thought she should give Franco the benefit of the doubt. An emotionally healthy and mature woman who thinks she deserves a great man doesn't get together with a guy to spite an ex even though she has real doubts about the guy, or go out with a man who forces her to be alone with him - twice in a stalkerish way - so she'll talk to him/re-assure him of his worth as a human. I don't know about Franco's general popularity with an audience, but I do believe Show runners can double down on a character or storyline to get their way instead of acknowledging they've made a mistake. These are excellent points, @ouinason! I totally agree with you about Franco w/Liz and Ric w/Liz. However, Franco irritates me more than Ric did because in my opinion RH plays him as a perpetual man-child caricature. He is this guy obsessed with being the only man who matters to Elizabeth and her sons, who reacts in anger that people aren't just over his serial-killer past, who chomps on food while talking, who thinks his art therapist job is beneath him, who makes weird facial contortions, who resorts to pouting often. I think my favorite line from Elizabeth to Franco ever was when he spoke about accepting never having love after breaking up with Nina, and in response she called him out for being a self-pitying whiner. Yet she tends to tolerate that behavior from him through their marriage. The only time in the past that I felt like RH's acting conveyed that he is a regular, real guy who is not always self-focused was in his scenes with BM's Drew when they were kidnapped by Betsy's ex the child molester and when Drew's son was ill/dying. It seemed like BM brought out the best in RH. I also find RH more or less tolerable when he is in scenes with MW as Ava. I prefer acting that comes off as organic, like teenage Robin with tears in her eyes acknowledging quietly to Laura Spencer that her parents aren't coming back, or Elizabeth in moments of quiet fear and then joy/relief at seeing her son Cameron is safe after a kidnapping, or the look on Dr. Tony Jones's face as he listened to BJ's heart after the bus accident. What I'm saying is, yelling, flailing, whining and weird facial expressions do nothing for me. I have the same reaction when Sonny throws barware, whisper-threatens someone, etc. I honestly don't care if Elizabeth gets with Nikolas or not. It just makes me feel a little better about her character to see her connecting with a former/current friend/former lover who knew her first love, was there when two of her kids were born, remembers her friendship with Emily. Elizabeth's life has been mostly consumed with Franco in recent years. Her only "friends" are Terry who was never a part of her life growing up in Port Charles and is rarely seen, and her co-worker Epiphany who the show decided should be a stand-in for Emily or Robin from time to time. Franco doesn't really know or understand Elizabeth's past and what has shaped her, at all.

Yes, I mentioned Franco hiding in the backseat of her car to @lala2 in a previous response. But I get that RH's Franco has fans regardless of his creepy and illegal actions.

Totally agree with "Nope!" Does he have any sort of degree that qualifies him to be an art therapist? I think not. A background of turning dead bodies into art does NOT count. The art therapists I have known have multiple master's degrees and a deep commitment to what they do. Just by the fact that Franco scoffed to Elizabeth he's an art therapist now instead of a "real artist" shows he doesn't deserve the job in addition to not doing the work to earn the position. I totally agree. She was a stupid, immature brat for giving away her shares and how she behaved with her family, and she was just plain stupid to confront/yell at Nelle without backup when she is aware of Nelle's history. I bolded your first sentence because I don't understand it. I should have been more clear I guess that I meant the Show thought they could force the audience to accept the narrative that Franco was redeemed/now a good man whom the audience should really like because he got together with legacy character Elizabeth after being involved with train wreck women like Carly and Nina. He did creepy and/or illegal things while he was with them (for example, being Nina's accomplice in running away with baby Avery after she forced Ava into labor and kidnapped Avery). Of course Jason murdering and being a mobster is bad, but it's not really a concern for Elizabeth's kids because Jake rarely sees Jason as far as we know (the last time I recall Jake being in Jason and Sam's home with them and Danny was Halloween 2019), and Cam has seen him in the last year due to unusual circumstances - going to court, and also being a kidnapping victim along with Trina. I'm not sure if Aiden even knows Jason other than he's Jake father. Franco, on the other hand, is the boys' live-in stepfather. Jake looks up to him. Their home got raided by police as a result of Franco getting arrested; Elizabeth herself said that was traumatic for them. Elizabeth will never be the kind of person who doesn't care what the rest of Port Charles thinks.

I might agree with you about the Show's intentions for him to be a gray soap character, if not for the fact that this actor was brought back as another character after previously being on the Show as a character from OLTL. I think it's very clear the Show intended to force the audience to accept an actor they liked from another show, by pairing him with Herbst's legacy character Elizabeth after pairing him with Carly and also Nina didn't work out. The hoopla over what he did to Tom is because it is very sick thinking to decide to kidnap a man, lock him in a cage and put a shock collar on him after he has gotten out of prison and is going about life. He was not stalking or threatening Elizabeth. As for the jealousy - I can maybe understand him being jealous when she and Drew hugged and had close conversations since he once lived with her and was going to be a stepfather to her kids. But he has also been jealous of any other man she hugged or sat/stood close to except for Lucas (because he knows Lucas is gay). Elizabeth is a nurse at GH as a well as a mother, which means she is going to talk to male patients, doctors, nurses and the fathers of other children. I was appalled when he sulked to Kiki that Dr. Munroe (Elizabeth's colleague, who at the time thought he was Charlotte's father) is "talking to my girlfriend." Franco acknowledges that he is flawed, but he also acts like it's offensive that Sam, Jason or anyone else still has a problem with him because he used to kill people. If you've paid attention to Elizabeth long-term (I guess you haven't), you know she has self-esteem issues dating back to her teenage years with Sarah and abandonment by her parents. I absolutely think part of the reason she married Franco is because she thinks he'll never leave her like her parents did. The self-esteem problem has been obvious at various points in her relationships, and definitely popped up when Franco said she's not an artist. That is also something I hate about RH's "Franco" being forced on the audience. Elizabeth could have had more storylines involving art in some way. Instead, she gets to be a supporting player in storylines focused on a former serial killer "artist" - and the set that used to be Elizabeth's art studio got turned into Franco's. "Good news" that Franco isn't killing again is a really low bar for him to be an appealing character or to show that their relationship is healthy. I don't think of it in comparison to Jason because Elizabeth was never in a years-long public romantic relationship with him. Cam is going to graduate from high school soon, but his little brothers will be in elementary and high school in Port Charles for years to come so it's entire possibly that they could get hurt as an indirect result of Franco's actions/decisions in the future. I'll agree to disagree with you about Elizabeth, esp. the part about her thinking she is with a great man. She wants all of Port Charles to think she has good judgement and isn't some poor duped woman, which is why she's been so determined that Jason and others should believe Franco is a good man. She more or less acknowledged she can't trust Franco to think about the future and consequences, when he lied to her and worked with Jordan to lure out Ryan. She flat out said well I still love Franco and my boys accept him, so he can come home (without the two of them resolving the very real trust problems).

I don't have a problem with her voicing contempt for drug dealing, because drug dealers shot up her ex-husband and left him for dead at the docks. JJ's Lucky worked for the PCPD and was investigating drug dealing and drugs stolen from GH at the time. As a nurse, I'm sure she also sees her fair share of overdoses. Dr. Robin Scorpio-Drake has a long history, and still an on-going association, with mobsters Jason and Sonny. That doesn't mean she's not allowed to have contempt for drug dealing.

Elizabeth is special because she is a legacy character - the granddaughter of Audrey and Steve, central characters of the Show when it started. She has grown up in Port Charles since age 14/15 and has connections to many other characters, past and present, through her history, her job as a nurse, and her sons. In fact, she is the only character still played by the original actress who was a teenage participant in the Nurse's Ball in the '90s who is still active in it every year. I feel he is undeserving of Elizabeth's love because he is an obsessive who shows that he doesn't respect others. Even if you hand-wave away what he did "because of the tumor," he is guilty of stalking (ex.:hiding in the backseat of Elizabeth's car when he was determined to date her), taunting Jason about his closeness to Jake, kidnapping Tom and locking him up with a shock collar in the name of "protecting Elizabeth" and then lying to her about it, screaming "Who cares about Sam?!" who was his victim when Elizabeth brought up something she said, dissing art therapy as a job that's beneath him, jealousy of her talking to a colleague (Dr. Munroe), begging Elizabeth not to dump him because "I need you; you make me better" and more. I see him being an awful long-term role model for the boys and a partner who will act like a child whenever he doesn't get what he wants, for the rest of her life. (His little protest/tantrum during the Nurse's Ball that Nikolas didn't put "Baldwin" in the scholarship named for Elizabeth is a recent example. The horror!) Sure he loves her, but not in a healthy way. There are have been days in the years since they got together when I think it would make Franco happy to hang a big sign on Elizabeth that says, "Property/significant other of Franco Baldwin." Elizabeth got together with him when she wanted Ric to leave her alone and when she was depressed that Jakeson/Drew and Sam got together. There is a scene where she is sad after Sabrina was murdered;she laments to him about feeling alone due to loss of friends over the years. He says something like "You have me." This was not a situation where she "fell in love" because he was this great catch and he added to her already awesome life. The Elizabeth who married GV's Lucky would never have settled for someone like Franco - a guy who once kidnapped her newborn son - or married him through the bars of a jail cell. I completely disagree that what other people think of Elizabeth's marriage to Franco doesn't matter, because she has three sons in school. Cam got into a fight with a classmate for trash talking his family. (He acknowledged that both the teachers and students thought Franco was guilty of murder.) Cam was just lucky he didn't get seriously hurt. Kids/teenagers are known for being cruel and impulsive. I kinda think it's inevitable that Franco will do something stupid and/or dangerous in the future and the kids will face backlash in school as a result. The fact that Franco appeals to no other woman in Port Charles, except maybe his ex-lover Ava, definitely does not mean that Elizabeth fell in love with a great man. He had a great moment in sacrificing himself to save Cam, but one moment does not erase an unhealthy trajectory. (I don't count using himself as bait to lure out Ryan because that was Jordan's idea that he agreed to.) Honestly, I still wish she and Dr. Matt Hunter had become a couple (I never understood what he saw in Maxie, ugh).

THIS. I decided not to watch the Josslyn/Mike scenes after seeing the preview because Mike is Kristina's grandpa! Josslyn's grandpa was the late John Jax. Kristina got to be in scenes with her sisters and her grandpa's cousin Brando, but there has been no acknowledgement (as far as I know) all this time between Sonny and Kristina that Grandpa Mike is ill and dying? Kristina should have a scene of looking at photos of Avery and Donna, and telling Grandpa they will grow up knowing who he was. What gets me is that in the scene where S&C have Mike meet newborn Donna, he lists all his grandchildren to them, and Josslyn was not on the list. They smiled at him and said he was correct - it was a 'yay Mike can still remember things' moment. There was no correction that he was forgetting Joss. And then just this week in the Joss/Cam/Dev park scene, Joss told them she was going to Turning Woods to visit "Mike" - not "Grandpa" or even "Grandpa Mike." I don't think Joss has ever called him anything but Mike to his face or when speaking to her mother, Sonny, and others about him. Contrast that with Cam, who refers to Laura as "my grandma" when speaking to anyone about her and he calls her "Grandma" whenever he sees her, even knowing now that Lucky wasn't his bio father. He was raised to consider her to be his grandmother; I can recall when Cam and Jake were little boys, out looking for a Christmas tree with JJ's Lucky and Elizabeth Lucky told them a story and said "Grandma Laura." Carly and Sonny never did that with Joss re: Mike. I think Joss has only known Mike starting when she was a tween, with this actress in the role once Carly moved herself back into Sonny's house - this time with her daughter. Totally agree about Franco. Blech. Compared to Elizabeth and Franco, Nikolas and Elizabeth do fit. He knows her history and really knows her as a person - her insecurities, what she values, how hard she has worked being a nurse and single mom. Franco IMO has never been the right partner for Elizabeth. He is obsessively in love with her because he sees her and her sons as his redemption. I may be in the minority, but I don't believe either Franco or Elizabeth love each other for who they truly are. When you say Jesse, do you mean a character or a former GH actor? Totally agree! Frava have a genuine friendship and used to be lovers, so I would find them getting together more organic and realistic than Franco and Elizabeth's entire so-called courtship. Elizabeth being willing to marry Franco while he was literally in a jail cell speaks volumes about her self-esteem in relationships. What Ava doesn't understand is that Franco never deserved Elizabeth to begin with. Ava wanting to emphasize Franco's past as a serial killer to promote his art, and Franco thinking "well maybe that's not a bad thing" shows that they are both far from being healthy people. Elizabeth is rightly embarrassed that Franco's serial killer past would be publicized if Ava went ahead with her plans. That's part of why you don't marry a former serial killer in the first place, Liz. Don't even get me started on Anna's behavior, and Britt being COS. Demoting a nurse who has three children shows the kind of person Britt is. She will still justify/gloss over anything she or Brad has done. She's really no better than Carly.

Totally agree about Becky and her character, Elizabeth. It's a disgrace that characters like Sam, Nina and now even teenage Trina have (or had) parents on this show but after literally decades we don't even know Elizabeth's mother's name. A storyline involving Elizabeth's family (not just to tie a new character to a long-term current one) is way past overdue. Willow was not milquetoast until she married Michael. She and Chase were great together, and the actress has the chops to pull off anger (raging at Shiloh in the courtroom) or devastation (reacting to Chase telling her that her baby died). The problem is, the only thing that Michael and Willow have to talk about is Wiley. They have nothing in common. In Michael's life, everything has been handed to him. Willow escaped a cult, became a teacher, and gave birth without her family by her side. A little bit of drama could come from Willow asking for Lucas to have an active role in Wiley's life, and she should. My WTF moment was when Willow told Michael he was the only person who could understand her fear in the hours that Wiley was missing. Um, Willow dear, you were around Lucas and Brad when Shiloh kidnapped Wiley not that long ago. Hello, Writers - you have short memories!! Willow even asked Brad to pray with her in the hospital chapel for Wiley's safe return. Lucas should have been informed of this kidnapping and would understand. Also, Anna now seems to have shifted to feeling guilty over Maxie inevitably getting hurt by Peter's lies and actions, while trying to blame Robert for not letting things go so they can all live under the illusion that Peter is a wonderful guy now and will totally stay that way as long as he doesn't think he's Alex's spawn. Excuse me? I don't want to see Robert and Anna get back together while Anna's behavior shows she doesn't deserve him, but I also don't want to see Robert with Sonny's first baby mama, Olivia. Ugh. None of Sonny's exes for Robert, please.

I thought that today (actually watched live) when she watched on the spy/surveillance camera as Cyrus's minions started beating up Brando and asked in a nonchalant tone (as if seeing two people arguing) what that was about! Jason's response and immediate choice to go rescue Brando made me feel like Sam isn't good enough for him! Btw, are Jason and Spinelli in some sort of competition for who has the worst hair?! The only positive things about this show today: Olivia being sweet to Robert, and Olivia's blouse that she's wearing on the plane. As for the Michael/Willow stuff and Chase, Michael seems like he's trying to tell her he's totally into her, while she's trying to convince herself that she could fall in love with him because she wants to be the family Wiley needs, and she feels like she needs to make the best of this since she already committed (plus she believes Chase cheated on her).

I disagree. Michael has never said anything about leaving Port Charles with Wiley. I don't like how he immediately claimed Wiley as his son and took him to the Q mansion, but Wiley had not spent all his time only with Brad and Lucas in their apartment. Wiley spent significant time with not just Michael but also Grandma Bobbie, Willow and Chase, other adults, and I think the assorted children who live with/visit Monica at the Q mansion. Wiley has clothes, toys, and bonds/attachments to people and places in Port Charles. So in my opinion, what Nelle intended to do was much more traumatic. She didn't care about Wiley's attachments or having a stable home or a group of loving family and friends. She wanted him for her own ego "I'm the only mother you'll ever know" (in other words..."I don't give a shit how much Willow has demonstrated she loves you or how attached you are to her"). She also spelled out that she wanted to take him away from Michael and Carly so they would be punished for not giving her what she wanted. That is an action of pure revenge, not love for a child. Did she have a real plan, or a home set up somewhere for herself and Wiley? It didn't sound like it. Michael should ask both Lucas and Willow to co-parent with him. It's absurd that Lucas and Willow have not yet had a scene together since the big reveal, given that Lucas wanted her to be in Wiley's life and they were both deceived. But of course, that would take some Show attention away from Michael, the Show's new best Daddy ever. *Rolling my eyes.* I will also defend Willow's comments saying nice things about the Quartermaine and Corinthos families, and having "fun." Aside from Chase within the last two years, Willow has only ever had her mother, who turned her over to Shiloh for sex when she was a teenager. Now since she has gotten close to Michael and been a maternal presence in Wiley's life, his parents and the rest of his family have surrounded her in a warm and welcoming manner. They have encouraged her to live in the big, luxurious mansion with Michael and she instantly has plenty of "family" support. She doesn't have to be worried if she makes enough money to pay the rent. He invites her to go out on a boat and have dinner, to celebrate winning custody of Michael. Any young woman who has not yet been exposed to the violence and daily presence of bodyguards that comes with being associated with Sonny or Jason, and has not yet had to deal with Carly constantly being all up in Michael's business, would have a positive reaction to this. I think she's especially vulnerable to being delighted and impressed right now, after (stupidly) thinking that she has been betrayed by the love of her life and her one "friend" who was really only a friend because she was Michael's girlfriend. The closest Willow had to girlfriends were the mothers of her now former students, Elizabeth and Lulu.

I'm going to defend Willow here because she has every right to think Nelle is an absolute beast. Nelle used Willow's dead newborn son as a prop to punish Michael. When Willow was minding her own business at home and taking care of Wiley as his legal parents asked her to, Nelle forced her way into Willow's home, attacked her and attempted to leave with Wiley while Willow was unconscious on the floor. She knows Nelle has killed before, and most recently slashed Brooklyn's throat to get away with her plan!! Nelle shows zero remorse for any of it. Why wouldn't Willow think Nelle could abandon or hurt Wiley if things weren't going the way she wanted?! Yes, Wiley has been around Nelle before - Lucas and Brad's home, and the Q mansion. These two places are familiar to him, and so are the people there. That is completely different from being taken from your bed at night, going in an unfamiliar car with someone you don't actually know, and the only familiar thing is one toy. I would assume he did wake up crying at some point, out of confusion. Nelle said "Michael and Willow don't deserve you" and that she didn't want Carly to be in his life. From what I heard, she never said she loves him and therefore wants to save him from a Mob/dangerous lifestyle. What about what toddler Wiley deserves? I think someone who loves him would think he deserves better be abruptly yanked from everything that is familiar to him at 2 years old, to start a life somewhere else purely because she wants to punish Michael for not giving her what she wanted from him, and to punish Carly for not giving her what she wanted before that. Nelle said as much in her fights with Michael and Carly. While what she said to Michael was accurate, she also said not one word about being miserable at losing time with her son, how very much she loves him and has missed him. She didn't rant that she thought kidnapping was the only way to give Wiley a chance at a safe life that would be impossible for Michael to provide as long as he's associated with Sonny. She gave him crap over not fighting for her. Her anger/hatred over not getting what she feels entitled to is much stronger than whatever she may feel toward her son. She is a sociopath. What if Wiley had stayed up all night crying, and Nelle got sick of it but Michael never showed up? Would Wiley still be alive? This is why I can't root for Nelle as a custodial parent. I root for her making the Carly and Sonny and even Michael's lives miserable because that's KARMA, but I don't root for an innocent toddler to be left in her care. I really wish there was a way for Willow and Lucas to have custody. They would be great co-parents. I also don't buy for a second that after being in a loving, mature relationship with Chase, Willow would EVER want to be in a relationship or marriage to Michael unless Wiley's life was in danger. Also- was that cabin set the same one that was used when Michael killed Claudia/Josslyn was born? And I'm REALLY glad the teen triangle is about WL/Cam. The kid brought in to prop Sonny was sooo not worth two teenage girls competing over. I have to laugh, though, at Josslyn's face that her friend Trina would dare to have feelings for a guy Josslyn might want! What nerve!!

Actually, many years ago a different re-cast Nikolas was into Elizabeth after JJ's Lucky "died" in the fire. I think he kissed her. However, she got close to Jason. She was sort of casually seeing GV's Lucky (after they divorced) when she and Nikolas got involved, but then Lucky freaked out about Jake nearly getting injured by Edward's car and turned around and proposed to Elizabeth because he wanted his family back together. I never got onboard with the Elizabeth and Franco stuff. Franco fixated on Elizabeth and Jake as Jason's ex and kid. He was obsessive and creepy/stalkerish; Elizabeth felt alone when Jason-Drew and Sam got together. So she gave in to his persistence and "fell in love." But with the way Franco behaves and his attitudes, he is no role model for Elizabeth's three impressionable sons. At least Nikolas when he is at his best, gets along with people mostly, has many connections in Port Charles, is well educated, and doesn't stalk women or lock a man up with a shock collar out of "love" for a woman. I shudder to think that those three boys will learn to behave about women the way Franco behaves about their mother. I also hate the way he implied to Elizabeth that being an art therapist is some low-life job he has settled for after being a high-profile artist. I have known art therapists (as related to my job) and they are very hard-working, highly educated people. In the real world there is no way in hell a guy like Franco could ever even aspire to get such a job. Whereas Nikolas has never in any way demeaned the work of a medical professional. As another poster stated, even Carly is too good for Franco. I will add ... just barely. She keeps choosing Sonny, after all.

I would like to see a scholarship in Robin's name from Dr. Monica Quartermaine (and maybe Michael) on a major anniversary of HIV+ and AIDS research, when KMc is visiting. That would be the most meaningful, given that Monica's late husband diagnosed Robin and all the times survivor Robin has had a hand in saving Monica and Alan's deadbeat criminal son's life. I'm glad the nursing scholarship was in Elizabeth's name because she's the granddaughter of Audrey and Steve and has cared for how many hundreds or thousands of patients. Franco's reaction to the attempted hug between Nikolas and Elizabeth shows yet again that Franco and Elizabeth are not a healthy couple - that Franco will always be waaaaay too possessive. How dare Elizabeth hug a long-time friend/former lover? How dare the scholarship not have Baldwin as Elizabeth's last name/his own name even though colleagues at the hospital have known her long-term as Elizabeth Webber, the granddaughter of the late beloved hospital doctor Steve? Franco, as usual (except for the one time he saved Cam) is all about his own ego and insecurities. Yes, I know he really cares about the three boys now, but even that started out as him trying to force his way into Elizabeth's life to feel better about himself and taunt Jason about being close to Jason's first-born son. I like that the scholarship news came not long after Elizabeth compassionately counseled Sonny to let Mike go. Such a terrific scene between two veteran actors on this show; it was good to hear him call her a trusted friend since I assume he thinks of her mostly as his best friend's first baby mama. I also was shocked, and liked, that Carly tearfully thanked Elizabeth for whatever she said to Sonny to get him to change his mind. It is an extremely rare moment when Carly is genuinely gracious/grateful to someone. ETA: For those who don't understand, the reason I am calling Franco possessive is that he's been jealous of seeing Elizabeth have one-one-one conversations with, hugging, or touching in any way Jason, Drew, Dr. Griffin Munro, and Nikolas (prior to the Nurses's Ball scenes). He snarked to Kiki that he didn't like Dr. Munro talking to "my girlfriend," and the first words out of his mouth after Nik returned was passive-aggressively complaining that his "wife's ex" is back.

THIS!! I just watched some recent scenes, and Elizabeth and Franco's behavior is completely consistent with their history. Her most significant lines show that she wants Franco's past ignored and for everyone to accept the narrative that Franco's past has no connection to who he is now. She told Nikolas that Ava's efforts now, and Franco's happiness at Ava's enthusiasm, is painful after she has spent years telling the world that Franco is a different man now. She told her friend Terry that the man Ava is promoting is "not my husband." Elizabeth gets offended and very defensive whenever there's a mention of Franco's past or Jason (or Sam) won't embrace the narrative about Franco that makes her happy. She wants the world to believe Franco is a good man, and that she has a healthy relationship/family. She really bristled after Franco got arrested for Kiki's murder, and Cam acknowledged he was in a fight at school because both teachers and the kids thought she was an idiot for believing in and marrying a former serial killer who once kidnapped her newborn son. She chooses to dismiss all of the unhealthy behaviors and poor choices he's made since the tumor was removed because she's in love with him and Jake and Aiden had already fully accepted him as their stepdad. An emotionally healthy woman would have walked away for good when he held on to her and said, "I love you, I NEED you, you make me better.' Her relationship with Franco isn't the first time she's behaved this way. She got mad at Ric after the Alcazar trial, for Ric saying to her face she's been protecting and lying for a killer. She insisted Jason had never been convicted (at that time, they were all still declaring that Lucky was Aiden's bio dad). Elizabeth even said something absurd like Jason's job "doesn't touch his soul." When Jason has done something she doesn't like, she decides it's because of Carly or Sam's influence. From her own history with Nikolas, she knows he's capable of evil like paying someone to try to shoot Hayden. She wants to be his friend again, and for him to only be a good guy like he was a long time ago. It's easier to blame Ava for being selfish, manipulative, etc. than to acknowledge that Nikolas and Franco are making choices in life that she don't fit with who she wants them to be. I would honestly rather see her with nuNikolas than Franco. They have chemistry, and Nikolas knows her well and understands her past. Howarth has always played Franco with Elizabeth like he's a needy man child, wanting Elizabeth and her children to adore him so that he can feel like there's more to him than a former serial killer. Unrelated thoughts: Has CD's face thinned out? Or does it just seem that way because of the COVID hair? He looks older, like Michael could pull off appearing to be a CEO now. What is with the tragedy of Maxie's hair?!! The temp Sam confused me; I thought GH had cast a new character or re-cast someone from the show's history.

C'mon now @GHScorpiosRule the CEO of a multinational corporation (or whatever the Show claims about ELQ) doesn't have time to pay attention to such trivial details as celebrity haircuts, unless such details have to do with his parents, Jason or Josslyn.

Yes, she was convincing as the grieving mother who went off the rails after her son died. I've gotta say, I was thrilled that GH's former "Patrick" beat "Jason" as lead actor. I shook my head that the clip of Oscar's death that GH picked for competition for an Emmy focused on the dead boy with Drew and Kim, when all three actors no longer work at GH. I was really taken aback when former "best actor" Maurice Benard and the former "best actress" introduced the next award. Benard both looks much older than his age, and the way he speaks seems wooden/like a struggle to be real, genuine, present and enthusiastic. I have thought that his performance on GH showed that he's not invested these days in being a good actor, but now I actually wonder if there is something genuinely wrong with him. The contrast between him and the actress was glaring IMO.

The last scene of Ric that I remember is his line to 'Jake' that "you're marrying my ex-wife," I think the day before the wedding that didn't happen because "you're Jason." I think he entered Sonny's hospital room and was never seen again? Ric wanting to get back together with Liz when he returned to be near Molly was weird, because in their last interactions years ago she called him "cruel" and wanted nothing to do with him after he brought baby Jake's paternity into question during the Alcazar murder trial. At that time, he showed contempt for her for her loyalty to Jason. Their first scenes together when he returned showed no indication that they'd been in touch/made amends in the years he'd been away; he talked like he'd never actually gotten over her.