KerleyQ

I haven't seen a thing from or about him in a while. I used to talk to him on Twitter here and there (we're both big Chicago sports fans), but he hasn't been on there in quite a while.

I did not know that. I think it's incredibly sweet that they were filming this for her when she was still alive.

I wonder if they actually planned on keeping this pregnancy going before they knew KM was out. Because it doesn't make sense otherwise. Of course, they did seem intent on essentially re-writing the Hope/Liam/Steffy stuff with Wyatt/Hope/Liam, with minor tweaks here and there, so who knows?

Oh, I think it happens exactly like that.

I liked that, at some points, it felt like they were talking to her right now, not about her in the past tense.

If we have to go this long with no Ridge/Caroline at all, I certainly hope that, when they finally do pop up on screen, Ridge is extremely hung over, half passed out at the cabin, cuddling with that pencil he threw.

I have to admit, right now, I'm kind of hoping that this isn't even really Jason. Helena just brainwashed some random guy and put him into place.

Until we're told otherwise, I'm telling myself that Luke is being held in Patrick's basement, and Patrick is just too dense to catch on.

Well now I just want to call her Thumbelina.

I think this will end up bonding them. Wyatt just left his visit with Bill, so he has Bill's voice in his head telling him how unbalanced Quinn is, then Hope's going to be found out cold after the longest roll down stairs in history, and either Quinn will still be there (because she was genuinely freaked out) or he'll find out that she was there, and he'll assume she pushed Hope. Naturally, Hope won't remember what happened, so when she hears that Quinn was there, she'll assume she had something to do with her fall. My guess is, eventually, she'll remember the truth, Wyatt will feel awful for blaming his mother for the loss of his baby (I assume the baby's gone after that fall, soap fans don't call it a mis-stairrage for nothing), and Hope will still not trust her, they'll split, and she'll leave town. It occurred to me while watching today that we must be seeing some stuff that was written the second they found out KM was leaving. The rushed baby shower, Hope and Ivy suddenly making nice at the shower, and now Hope takes a tumble down the stairs in a way that is completely not remotely open to interpretation that it could have been Quinn's fault. I think that they decided to try to redeem Quinn via KM's exit story. If KM was sticking around, Quinn would have been standing right there, maybe she'd have grabbed Hope's arm to stop her from turning away, and Hope would have fallen as she was shaking off Quinn's grasp.

I haven't seen yesterday yet. Did Nik go running over there thinking "well, I'm done with Britt, time to get Liz"? Because, idiot, she shot your ass down because you "chose her" and decided to give Britt a goodbye screw on your way over. Do you think that telling her that Britt turned out to be exactly the manipulative bitch Liz already told you she was, multiple times, is going to have Liz jumping in your arms and hustling you off to bed? I swear, I remember liking Nik at some point, but he is just such an entitled, emotionally immature, jackass. He definitely got the kid he deserves.

I think the only time her hair hasn't been fantastic was during the reign of "The Taupe" when pretty much every single actress was sporting a color the hair department apparently got a bulk discount on. Even then, her hair was great, but the color sucked ass.

Honestly, during the "emotional infidelity" with Jason (which, honestly, I've had a few male friends in my life who I'd do just about anything for, without it being romantic, so I'm still not on board that Liz was somehow being unfaithful to Lucky during that time, although I'll acknowledge that destroying the files was shitty, but Jason was the show's "hero," so it's not surprising), I honestly thought Lucky was being an emotionally abusive dickhead (and not even solely during his addiction period, he was being an emotionally abusive jackass for a while before the pills). Finding him in their marital bed banging his drug hook up was really the tip of the iceberg in that mess. When it comes to that time period in their relationship, when it comes to the battle of "who did worse," I'll always be on Liz's side. I was pissed she stuck with him as long as she did, to be honest. Of course, the writing was ridiculous back then, because Guza was deadset on getting to the Liz/Jason ONS and baby, and he wrote a whole lot of character-destroying bullshit to get there (on all four of Lucky, Sam, Liz, and Jason, but an epic amount went to Lucky). I think it started right around the time Lucky lost his shit on Lulu for getting an abortion, if I'm remembering my time line correctly (btw, did you know Lulu had an abortion? She never mentioned it). I remember thinking "holy crap, why is Lucky being such an asshole to his scared, pregnant teenage sister??" I think the main problem was that, once the show realized they were keeping KeMo, Liz tied down in the street to wait for that bus. Once Guza successfully bussed the hell out of her, he realized "hey, that worked, Becky sold it, her fans were vocal, we created a groundswell of new/renewed hate for the character, hardly anybody is indifferent to her now!" And from then on, Liz became the pawn he moved around the board to do whatever propping he needed done, and he ceased caring about her as a character in her own right. Hell, Lucky's "what happened to that girl in the snow?" might as well have been Guza saying "let's be real, that's the last time we had any interest in her other than a pawn and place holder."

When Robin comes back, one of the things I want is for her and Sam to have one of those "seriously, can you believe this asshole??" conversations as they compare notes on what's gone down over the past year or so.

Because they love her and they thought it would make her happy would be my guess. They were grieving, and they chose to go with the age she'd chosen to use. Maybe, since she knew the end was coming, she even asked them to.

I think it's likely due to two things - TK's shooting schedule (he's been on screen an awful lot lately, due to this story line, so he must have been due some time off to travel back east), and they may scrambling to re-tool the whole story. I don't think they envisioned Ridge/Caroline being something that worked like it has. I think the original story was likely going to just be "Caroline gets a crush on her mentor, Ridge, and Ridge uses that crush to take FC away from Rick." But TK and LG have that lightning in a bottle type chemistry, so now they need to step back and re-think things. Like the spoiler that Even knowing all of that though, dammit, I want them on my screen.

From the time Lucky left until AJ showed up, she barely looked at a man. And then, since the writers have severe ADD, whenever they manage to get her into potentially good story/pairings, they manage to get distracted and either drop it completely before it goes anywhere (Liz/Matt, for example) or just fuck it up royally for no real reason (Liz/AJ).

I love that scene. It's like someone finally figured out how to write the kind of stuff TK does best.

Seriously, how have we not seen Ridge and Caroline in their respective homes thinking about each other yet? We get Hope and Liam flashbacks multiple times per week (or per episode some days), and we can't see Ridge and Caroline unable to sleep at night flashing back to the time he smelled her hair, grabbed the pencil and tossed it away and kissed her? Come on, show!

(Coming over here, since this isn't episode talk...) As always, i remain amused that a woman who has had sex, at most, a handful of times in the past 5 years (and has had, I think, 6 different partners in well over 15 years), gets the slut-shaming and judgement.

Just to be clear, since I wasn't in the room during the Britt/Nik scenes and just heard the dialogue - did Britt somehow think that "spineless idiot who listened to her evil mother when she suggested she encourage Nik's child to run away and hide for days as a means to make Nik emotionally vulnerable and get him back" was going to play better than "cooked up the same plot with the help of his kid and not on her mother's say-so?" I mean, really. Either way, she actively allowed Nik to freak the fuck out while his child was missing for days just so she could exploit that concern as a means to get closer to him. It doesn't matter whose fucking idea it was. God, she's useless. Did she think that Nik would say "oh, so you only stupid, irrational shit that has the potential to endanger my kid when your psycho mommy whispers in your ear? Then, by all means, stay, darling. I love you!"? Not that I think Nik is parent of the year, and I'm sure that, if KT was sticking around, Nik would get around to deciding she was just acting out of misguided love, and he'd welcome her back to his bed, unless he gets another Emily tumor ghost to sex up.

And now we know how Sonny will get away with killing AJ. Real Sonny was locked up in Miscavige all this time. ("Those bastards! Don't they know poor Sonny is claustrophobic? How dare they!!") Someone in a Sonny mask killed AJ, banged Ava over his dead body, etc. Then Michael can tearfully embrace Sonny, proclaiming that he should have known he'd never hurt him like that, begging him to forgive him for ever doubting what an amazing man he is. And Carly will be forgiven because she was just a victim of Faux Sonny (Fauxny?) I'll just go vomit now.

I was so close to calling him "The Dread Pirate Fluke," but I can't stick with it, because Ron's crap isn't fit to kiss The Princess Bride's ass.

When they were talking about how sad it was that Brooke was missing the shower, I was thinking "well then maybe you could have waited until the baby was bigger than a blueberry to have the damn thing and give her time to get back for it." Seriously, why were they having a shower that was apparently pulled together at the last minute this early in the pregnancy? They were acting like they just found out she's pregnant and she's due in 2 weeks, so they needed to hustle. You had months, ladies!

OK, just bringing my own personal experience into this, and then I'll drop it, because I don't want to take over the forum with it - I worked in an office that was predominantly white. There were two (and only two) black women in my department (I'll refer to them with their respective initials "L" and "B"). And they did not like each other. Not even a little bit. "L" was the come in late, push her work off on other people, complain that people were being mean to her if they expected her to do her work kind of employee. When some of us would go out to lunch or on a break, without "L" being with us, "B" would absolutely rip on "L." She'd talk about how lazy she was, how sick she was of the rest of us doing her work, how she should be fired, etc. I'm not saying that there isn't some code that a lot of black women follow, because I personally haven't interacted with every black woman in the country (have any of us?) But, with every "code" there is always going to be someone who breaks it. When you're talking about a group as diverse, numerous, and loosely defined as "every black woman," then it's a near certainty that they aren't all going to adhere to some "unwritten code." That's just human nature.