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  1. Thanks for the excerpts. It just makes me miss Oliver & Felicity as a happy couple in Arrow 4A and Baby Sara Diggle.
  2. Ratings for this week's midseason finale of TWD (7x08-Hearts Still Beating) were 5.1 demo and 10.58 total viewers... http://www.spoilertv.com/2016/12/final-adjusted-tv-ratings-for-sunday_13.html Season 7 so far: 7x01 - 8.4 and 17.03 7x02 - 6.1 and 12.46 7x03 - 5.7 and 11.72 7x04 - 5.4 and 11.40 7x05 - 5.2 and 11.00 7x06 - 4.9 and 10.40 7x07 - 5.0 and 10.48 7x08 - 5.1 and 10.58
  3. "What We Leave Behind" – Arrow S05E09 Review By Gislef Dec 08, 2016 http://www.tv.com/shows/arrow/community/post/what-we-leave-behind-arrow-s05e09-review-1481177827/
  4. Nominations for the People's Choice Awards 2017 (to be aired on Jan. 18, 2017, on CBS)... Arrow is nominated for Favorite Network Sci-Fi/ Fantasy TV Show: Vote here - http://vote.peopleschoice.com/#!/home/all/40/2 FYI, all other categories/nominees: http://vote.peopleschoice.com/#!/home/all
  5. Arrow Gets A Batman '66 Style Opening Russ Burlingame 12/12/16 http://comicbook.com/dc/2016/12/12/arrow-gets-a-batman-66-style-opening/
  6. Transcription of Arrow spoilers from TVLine's Ask Ausiello facebook video (posted by @JJ928 in Spoilers thread)... -- Matt Mitovich: "On a scale of 1 to 10, Laurel is going to be a 9 on the emotional wallop scale. That's what Wendy Mericle told me earlier today. Um, and she said specifically the Laurel storyline - or should we say 'Laurel' (using air quotes) - I dunno, depends on what you believe. (Other person asked, "Who is she?") ... That will be revealed. And, but, uh, that storyline as a whole will do a - will have an emotional resonance as a whole for not just Oliver, but Oliver and Felicity. Felicity, actually, is going to be the biggest skeptic about 'Laurel' (using air quotes), um, while Oliver's a little bit more into seeing his old friend again, under whatever circumstances he thinks she came back." -- Matt Mitovich: "Dark times coming up for Felicity... But yes, Felicity is headed for darker times. As a result of all that's been going on, she's gonna kinda break away from the team and, uh, do her own morally questionable vigilante type stuff."
  7. Here are my last comments on the whole New BC issue (at least until we get new spoilers)... First, if Tina does join the team, then she'll need a suit. So is the show going to design her a new costume or just give her the old BC costume to wear? And if she wears Laurel's old costume, then won't the public/criminals believe that she's BC? (Btw, I think that Thea will rejoin the team because they've got this great Speedy costume sitting unused there.) Second, remember that Laurel's requested promise to Oliver changed over the summer... In the SDCC highlight reel in July, Laurel: "I need you to promise me something. Your instinct has always been to go it alone. Ollie, you can't." In 501 in October, Laurel: "Please... please don't let me be the last Canary. That way, a part of me will always be out there with you." Something changed between those two times - something having to do with this season's storyline. I don't know what, but something. Third, if TPTB are thinking very long term, they may be creating a 'Dread Pirate Roberts' template for the future. At some point, SA could step down as the GA and they could segue into Connor Hawke or someone else as the GA (time travel or alternate universes would allow Connor to step into present day). In setting up for that, they have someone else take over the BC moniker now, to make the point that it's the symbol that's important, not the person behind the symbol (that's Batman-esque, isn't it?). That fits in with the legacy theme as well. ETA: I hate it when someone purports to speak for "a good portion of the fans" or "most fans" or "the majority of the fans" without any statistical evidence whatsoever to back it up.
  8. Sleepy Hollow had a "sin-eater" named Henry Parrish (who, unfortunately, later turned out to be Ichabod's son). But when first introduced, IIRC, he was this interesting character who traveled around the world, visiting death row inmates and consuming the darkness within them. He helped break Ichabod's blood tie to the Headless Horseman.
  9. Includes interview with Arrow-verse composer, Blake Neely, where he talks about creating the music score for the big crossover (starting at around 2:30)... -- Blake played snippets of Arrow's theme, Flash's theme, Legends' theme and Supergirl's theme, and then explained how he combined them all together to use in the scene where Barry introduces Supergirl to all the different teams. -- Blake talked about composing new music for the new villains, the Dominators, and played a snippet of their theme. -- Blake then talked about assigning different scenes to different members of his composing team and to himself. -- Blake mentioned that Chris Bluth played the duduk, which he said was used a lot in films to represent Middle Eastern. He said that they brought in the duduk in Arrow Season 3 when they went to Nanda Parbat. He then said that "it just became attached to Sara's character since she died and became an assassin." So in the crossover, he thought it was a good opportunity to bring the duduk music back for Sara (scene where bridesmaid dress-wearing Sara fights Deathstroke). -- Blake explained that once everything is written, recorded and mixed, it's all put into one big session and sent to the music editor, who takes it to the mix stage, and then they "lay it in with all the sound, dialogue, music." CW Crossover Behind-the-Music + The Flash Midseason Finale Published on Dec 6, 2016, by DC Entertainment
  10. This is an interesting analysis of the 509 music by a fan (which Arrow composer Blake Neely said was "spot on") - I only quoted the Olicity portion, so you may wish to read the entire thing... What We Leave Behind - Arrow Music Notes 5x09 Austencello Dec. 10, 2016 http://austencello.tumblr.com/post/154318061629/what-we-leave-behind-arrow-music-notes-5x09
  11. As usual, I'm fascinated by what clips they choose to use to highlight each episode...
  12. I also want to add the following papp tweet to our collection because I don't think it was posted before...
  13. -- On Nov. 1, 2016, papp tweeted: "#Arrow started the day shooting interior scenes in North Vancouver today with #Olicity @WhatsFilming" and "#Olicity was searching for a new #blackcanary today onset of #arrow ... What does that mean exactly lol ?? More questions than answers lol" and "#Arrow wrapped shooting with exteriors at Vancouver dry dock with #Olicity and #laurel , ok seriously wtf does this mean ??!!" and "A full day of shooting #Arrow with #Olicity and #Laurel ... A mix of interior and exterior shooting , and no I do not have pics or graphs." (kingscourtgraph tweets, page 48 of Spoilers thread) -- On Nov. 1, 2016, papp tweeted: "It's not Sara, Laurel or Evelyn. That's all I'll say on the topic for now (partly because that's all I know too) #BlackCanary #Arrow." (canadagraphs tweet, page 48 of Spoilers thread) To be clear, I think it's possible that the papps could be wrong or misinterpreting what they're seeing. It's also possible that Tina will put on Laurel's old BC suit but call herself something else.
  14. As long as Laurel/BC was on the show, there was always going to be discussion of a possible GA/BC endgame. After Laurel's death, that discussion would've ended - except the EPs decided to change Laurel's dying words to about not letting her be the "last Canary," TPTB decided to introduce a new female character named Tina, the papps tweeted about a "new Black Canary," etc.
  15. On Once Upon a Time this season, Emma saw a vision of her own death. On The Librarians episode last night, Eve Baird saw a vision of her own death.
  16. I feel conflicted - partly excited and partly anxious - about Felicity's new storyline. While she has always had the potential to become like her father, her flashback scenes with Cooper also showed that she does have some moral integrity. Considering all that's happened to her over the past four years, why would Billy's death push her over the edge? The most plausible explanation, as some of you have suggested, is guilt and maybe the culmination of everything bad that's happened. I also don't like that she's apparently going to be drawn away from Team Arrow (again), but I guess I shouldn't be surprised. They had Diggle kill his brother and go down a dark road. I just hope that she's not isolated on another story 'island' in a C plot. (Let's face it, Curtis/Mr. Terrific is going to get the B plot "because comics.") I'm just not sure that I trust these EPs/writers to write Felicity's new story well. Incidentally, perhaps prescience at the Men of Arrow panel at Heroes & Villains FanFest-Chicago (Mar. 13, 2016)? Fan asked if Felicity were to be a super villain, what power would she have and why. After DR said that she would be like Cuttler (the Calculator), SA said: "No. Her superpower would be mind control... She would have mind control. She basically has it already." I may be getting to the point where I kinda like the idea of EBR getting her own show on The CW, so that I can drop watching Arrow and its unending circle of frustration, misery and hypocrisy. I agree that they messed up the BC storyline from the start, with the sister-swapping and casting KC. At this point, if they can't rewrite history, then the best they can do with that storyline is to establish as show canon that a kickass Black Canary exists on one of the alternate Earths who is Green Arrow's partner and love on that alternate Earth. I don't think that Oliver & Felicity will get back together this season. I don't know if Tina will be Oliver's love interest, but she'll be somebody's love interest. (Like I said before, I think Tina will join Team Arrow this season, but they may wait until next season before hooking her up with anybody.) I think the EPs are planning for the show to last another few years and are leaving all options open in terms of a romantic endgame for Oliver.
  17. Black Canary is totally in the new comics reboot. She's right there by Green Arrow's side and they even have steamy romance/sex scenes in the Rebirth comics (complete with flowery, smoochy dialogue). So it's Oliver, Dinah, Diggle and Emiko (Oliver's young half-sister). -- Huffington Post (Jul. 29, 2012): On whether he was aware of the comic books before taking the role, or whether he had to go back and read up, SA: "I was equally unaware of the character before I auditioned. The audition went very well and so I thought about going and reading a bunch of the comic books [before filming], but then I was almost worried that I would mess things up. It didn’t seem to be broken, so I didn’t want to work too hard on fixing it. We had a creative team and they were so connected with the character that I figured whatever they put on the page and however they directed me would be correct. So I waited until after the pilot and then I read everything." -- 13th Dimension (Jan. 28, 2014): On how aware is he of what’s going on in the comic books, SA: "It’s a completely separate bubble. I live in the bubble of our show and I actually don’t like any outside influences." On what he would tell fans who are a little bit behind, or who are just starting on the show now, to get them interested and get them to take the plunge at this point, SA: "I tell them they don’t have to be a comic book fan to like the show. I tell them to read some of the articles that have been written about our second season and the type of transformation that we’re making. And I tell them literally to watch the first two acts of the pilot. And by the time I break the guy’s neck at the end of the second act, if they’re not in, then (pause) God bless them." -- TVLine (Jan. 20, 2015): On the romantic front, whether he thinks there is a place on Arrow for a great love (since Smallville had Clark and Lois, the Spider-Man movies always involve Mary Jane or Gwen, and a female is always a part of the hero’s journey), SA: "I think that both Laurel and Sara, for Oliver, were loves that were principally from the past, from before the boat. And any other sort of brief relationship that he’s had has been flawed. Felicity has clearly, over the course of two-plus seasons, grown into that love for him. It’s just a matter of whether or not they can ever find a spot where they can make it work on an ongoing basis." -- Green Arrow panel at Heroes & Villains FanFest-Chicago (Mar. 12, 2016): On whether they plan to honor the original comics where Oliver ends up with Black Canary, SA: "I don't know. I don't know... I feel like there's an element of respecting the canon that is important. And I also feel like there's a reality to producing 23 episodes of television a year - how challenging it is. And, you know, you just got to press forward. So if things pivot, and that becomes the best option for entertaining television, or to [anchor/anger?] the viewers, or to make viewers excited, then that's what you do - as long as you keep people interested. But, um, you know, there was a point in time when I wanted to know everything that was going to go on in the show, and I wanted to know, like, long-form... Now I don't want to know. Now I want to go episode by episode." -- Facebook video chat (Sep. 27, 2016): SA: "Colin Calvert said that, uh, 'Hate mail is fan mail.' That's a good point. It's a good point. Hate mail is fan mail. So, yeah, to those guys whose childhood I ruined, to those guys who are using a power drill during my lunch hour when I theoretically could be napping, thank you. Thank you very much." SA: "Brandon Richardson said, 'Who could hate me?' Comic book fans. You'd be surprised. You'd be surprised. But it's not hate. It's all love. It's interest." -- Facebook video chat (Dec. 7, 2016): In response to fan said that "it would be awesome if the Black Canary came back", SA: "And I agree. Lots of consternation within the fanbase about what's important the Black Canary - in the Green Arrow-verse. And I will say that - forgetting about the show for a second - if you just look at the canon of Green Arrow, John Diggle wasn't actually a character and he's indispensable. Felicity Smoak wasn't really a character and she's indispensable. So we picked and plucked from various parts of the DC universe. But if you're just getting into the canon of Green Arrow - the comic book character, not necessarily the show, but the comic book character - ... Black Canary is easily the most important feature next to the Green Arrow. Period. Full stop. Forever. So it would be very nice to have the Black Canary back. I would agree with that."
  18. All polls will close at noon Pacific time on December 24, and results will be announced in special articles starting on Dec. 26... CarterMatt Awards 2016: This year’s categories, plus nominations and results schedule DECEMBER 5, 2016 http://cartermatt.com/232790/cartermatt-awards-2016-schedule-rules/ MG is nominated for Favorite Showrunner (he's currently in last place): http://cartermatt.com/233673/cartermatt-awards-2016-marlene-king-mark-gatiss-adam-horowitz-among-favorite-showrunner-nominees/ Poll categories still to be posted: Sunday, December 10 – Best Fanbase Monday, December 11 – Best Couple Tuesday, December 12 – ‘Ship of the Year Wednesday, December 13 – Breakout Star Thursday, December 14 – Best New Show Friday, December 15 – Best Reality Star Saturday, December 16 – Show of the Year
  19. What was cut from the Arrowverse crossover? BY NATALIE ABRAMS December 1, 2016 http://www.ew.com/article/2016/12/01/arrow-flash-supergirl-legends-tomorrow-crossover-deleted-scenes
  20. Responding to fan comment. From SA's post-507 facebook video chat (Dec. 7, 2016): -- Fan said that "it would be awesome if the Black Canary came back." -- SA replied: "And I agree. Lots of consternation within the fanbase about what's important the Black Canary - in the Green Arrow-verse. And I will say that - forgetting about the show for a second - if you just look at the canon of Green Arrow, John Diggle wasn't actually a character and he's indispensable. Felicity Smoak wasn't really a character and she's indispensable. So we picked and plucked from various parts of the DC universe. But if you're just getting into the canon of Green Arrow - the comic book character, not necessarily the show, but the comic book character - ... Black Canary is easily the most important feature next to the Green Arrow. Period. Full stop. Forever. So it would be very nice to have the Black Canary back. I would agree with that."
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