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When it first came up that what Sharon said under hypnosis was accepted as fact, I hit the googles. Apparently the regard of hypnosis under legal circumstances varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. So training at the Law & Order night school isn't even helpful on this one because NYC <> GC.

I don't disagree that Audra is widely disliked. I just don't see everyone making faces when they see her. That's the kind of thing children like Katie or Connor do, or immature adults who can't control their reactions. Plus, I don't think TPTB would let that happen because Audra is the only Latinx character on the show right now and having everyone behaving like that toward her would risk looking racist. CBS and their two daytime soaps already have some bad history on that front.

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Yep and yep. I had already thought Amy was shady, and today it hit me that Audra could be in on whatever Amy is pulling. Note how Audra insisted on going to L.A. with Nate to meet Damian. Then in L.A. she and Amy went off to do some shopping together. It's possible Audra had met Damian before Nate did. She could be working with both Amy and Damian as a honeytrap to distract Nate while Damian goes after Winters Inc. Other than Lily and Devon, I don't think anyone in GC cares that much about Audra to be making stank faces when they see her.

Audra is pretty much living with Nate now. Seems to me they might as well make it official. So the PCP definitely triggered Sharon's hallucinations of Cassie? Okay, Sharon can stop talking about PCP now, I hope. Victor has some nerve accusing the gang of three of going rogue. Going rogue is what he does all the time, and he always expects his family to accept it. Lol, does Damian have a split personality or is Amy in on the long con he must be running on Nate? (😉) Damian can't be a shiftless poor if he's also the owner of a successful corporate conglomerate. Shut it, Victor. What's done is done. You're just mad Claire gets the credit for ending Jordan. And that Victoria and Nikki had Claire's back instead of yours. Nate, you can't be this naive. Damian is likely using you to make a run at taking over Winters Inc. (😉) Aw geez, Ghoul Cameron was still hanging around. How many times does Sharon have to "banish" him from her mind before it sticks? Why did Victor let Jordan's body be taken to the morgue? I'm going to laugh so hard if the vehicle transporting her corpse is in an accident and her body disappears. Chance, have you met Victor before? You can't be trying to swing your detective d!ck at him. Victor stays one step ahead of you and the GCPD with his lies and cover stories. Yeah, sure, Amy. Bet your illness will magically go into remission now that Dr. Nate wants be involved in your medical treatment. You'd think Nick would've been worried about protecting Mariah, Tessa, and wee Aria as soon as he realized Ian and Jordan were in cahoots. Sigh, too late.

IKR? Ian wanting Sharon and Tessa out of the way so he'd have a clear path to Mariah makes sense to me. But Jordan killing Heather did nothing to help her get to Claire. Counting on Sharon being arrested and going to prison left too many places where things could damage Ian and Jordan's plan. For example, who would've expected hypnosis to clear Sharon of a murder charge? And don't get me started on Jordan and Ian having sex--albeit off-camera. How did those two hitting the sheets enhance any of this except to increase the WTFery of the entire story arc? I'm fine with Y&R giving work to veteran actors like CZ and RW. But geez, not like what's been done with Jordan and Ian. Hopefully both actors have at least gotten decent paychecks out of this crap.

There was a "blink and you'll miss it" moment a few weeks ago. Billy told someone (Victoria?) he'd bought a house so that when Katie and Johnny sleep over they could bring their friends. Frankly, I didn't think we'd ever see the house. Where Billy was living has been a mystery for quite a while. He wasn't at the Abbott manse, the GCAC, or Chelsea's apartment, and he and Lily sold their condo when they broke up. Seeing him at home wasn't treated as significant even though Billy's a member of one of the legacy families.

Yes and I also thought the lack of reaction was odd. I guess it's possible Cole told Victoria about it and she told Claire but that would be a huge piece of information to have relayed without letting the viewers know. Whatever, I think Victor did pick up on Jordan spilling the secret. That's likely why after Jordan died Victor immediately went into anger mode at the gang of three. He was making sure to put the blame back on them.

Oy, kind of macabre for those Newmans to stand around watching Jordan die. Of course Mariah and Nick didn't take Sharon to the hospital first. Sigh. Wah, wah, wah, Billy. Maybe you should talk to a therapist instead of continually crying on Jack's shoulder about your absurd revenge schemes. Claire said she used a whole bottle of sleeping pills to poison Auntie's tea. Hmm, I'd think Jordan would've noticed right away the liquid was a bit chalky or cloudy. Billy bragged to Jack how he has good ideas for a new enterprise of his own. Sure, William. AI? Cryptocurrency? TikTok videos? Yesterday Victor crowed he didn't need Jordan's help finding Ian. Then today he demanded Jordan tell him where Ian was before she croaked on Victoria's couch. Huh? Victor checked his watch while Jordan was wasting her final breaths delivering another overwrought speech. Was he late for a tee time, or wondering why the sleeping pills were taking so long to kill her? BILLY'S HOUSE!!!!! Wow, YR spent some $$$$. Today's unveiling was timely since basic set looked like it had been Jordan's place back in Oregon. But dang, how did Sally pull off all that interior decoration without Billy knowing? She even had a photo of Delia. Sally, giirrll, go get your man. Ew, I hope Victoria's going to buy a new couch after Jordan unalived herself on the current one. She better burn all the throw pillows too. 😱😱😱😱

Right? When Phyllis finds out Jordan is the one who killed Heather (or did Ian do it?) they'll need to bring in a GC industrial street sweeper to clean up the pile of shards. She probably won't care about Sharon being kidnapped though.

GMTA, lol. That's exactly the take I had but I figured it was because I recently read the book, Wicked, and have had the Witches in mind. But if Claire is Dorothy, who is Glinda? And who are the Tin Man, the Scarecrow, and the Lion? 🤔 Nah, JG ain't that deep as a writer, and the current Oz movie is the product of a CBS competitor.

It might be telling how Tessa's budding friendship with Daniel develops. Maybe it's been a slow build to a romantic pairing. Daniel is still grieving Heather and Tessa would be on the rebound, but couples have happened on this show under worse circumstances. I think YR would have to tread carefully though. The writers have already had Ian make a lowkey negative comment about same-sex relationships. TPTB could face some backlash.

It wasn't consistent though. In one scene with Claire in the overlook park Jordan had on glasses and then in their next scene together she didn't. IMO Jordan's disguise was silly enough without the random glasses.

Ian sure has some nerve showing his face in Society again. Abby didn't say he could go there if she wasn't on site. I don't get why Tessa was still debating with Ian. It's pointless and she knows he's devious. It's as if he hypnotizes her into submission. Meanwhile, the Claire vs. Jordan verbal cage match continued: Claire: tell me where Sharon is, Jordan! Jordan: or what? I'm not afraid of you, Claire. I taught you everything you know. Claire: okay then, fcuk around and find out. Mariah, stop interacting with Ian! I can't believe Tessa kept Mariah from calling the cops on him. All these Newman fools just standing around arguing with and taunting Jordan. Why? If they're going to end her, get on with it! Achievement unlocked, Ian, Tessa refused to listen to Mariah's warnings about you so Mariah stomped off in anger and frustration. At last, Sharon staggered her way above ground and Mariah found her. Wonder if someone will take her to the hospital? Sharon needs more than a shampoo and a change of clothes. Uh oh, Jordan. Sharon escaped and now you're screwed. You want sympathy? Pshht, the Rolling Stones send their regards you frigging psycho. I think it'll be hilarious if Jordan meant to drink the poisoned tea but she picked up the wrong cup.

I went through the designated YR criminals I could think of and yeah, to my recall they all were referred to by both their first and last names. I remembered it getting especially ridiculous with the ominous references to Jeremy Stark, who turned out to be mainly an overblown plot device. I dunno, maybe the YR writers want to avoid confusing the Jordan Howard character with two IRL professional athletes of the same name. When I first did a search yesterday most of the results were for Jordan Howard the NFL football player. Far be it from YR to risk offending their powerful online sports betting advertisers. 😉

Nick: F...I...G.H.T! Fight, Sharon! Fight! Wait, I thought that hideout place was called the NoTell Motel. (😉) Chance referred to it as the Riverbank Motel. Sounds less sleazy, ha ha. Jordan wears glasses now? When she was on the phone with Claire she had them on. Okay, when Jordan met up with Claire again she wasn't wearing glasses. Continuity error? Whee, Claire went into beast mode with Aunt Jordan. And Jordan seemed both a little intimidated and lowkey proud. When Chance read his phone message about the fingerprint ID he griped, "Son of a bitch" like he'd just run out of hair mousse or something. I got the feeling the actor doesn't commonly use naughty language IRL. Ugh, Jordan squeezing Claire's shoulder with her gloved hand was kinda creepy, in a controlling abuser kind of way. I kept waiting for Jordan either to give Claire a hard pinch or pop her upside the head. And then later when Jordan arrived at the Tack House she still wasn't wearing glasses. WTH? Uh oh, Claire. Asking Jordan about Heather's death was one question too far. I hope you've been recording those little reunion chats with your psycho auntie. Yeah, the tea Claire served Jordan must've been tainted if she suddenly told Jordan not to drink it. Darn it, Claire, did you overplay your hand?

As confirmed by IMDb, Wikipedia, and other sources from the googles, Jordan's last name is Howard. Her sister is Eve Howard, who was Victor's lover back in the day. Her nephew is Cole Howard who is Claire's daddy.

So if O'Shon does make in the range of $100k that means Greg's salary is around $85k. Does that sound right?

It reminded me of a scene on All My Children when one of Erica Kane's daughters was talking to her kids about Erica. Instead of saying, "your grandmother," she said, "your mommy's mommy." It was ridiculous. (Allegedly, per Susan Lucci's contract, Erica couId never be referred to as a grandmother.) A week is nothing. In the past JG has stretched one day out to nearly three weeks. Maybe he'll beat his own record. 😱

If it's Tuesday, Jordan must be doing one of her scenery-chewing monologues, again. Yay. 😐 Claire is the new Newman Enforcer. She had Nikki and Victoria obeying her orders and I was loving it. Chance looked to me like he'd lost weight. Hope the actor is okay. Get over yourself, Victoria. You're the one who decided Claire was an innocent naif. Hah hah, she's turning out to be a bigger bad@$$ than your daddy. That was a nice handbag Jordan was carrying. Guess Ian financed a whole new wardrobe for her after he got her out of prison. Wait, what? Grandpa Victor has given Claire a horse but not a trust fund? Ehh, I think Claire was lying to Jordan about needing Victoria to die before Claire can get any big Newman bucks. When Jordan leaves the motel does she take all her stuff with her? It was odd how Nick and Chance found no indication of her having been there except for the lipstick on the tumbler. My girl Claire was playing Jordan like an entire orchestra. She is a con artist virtuoso, baby! So is Victoria going to have to pretend to be dead in order to help Claire convince Jordan Claire killed her? The corpse bride jokes will write themselves. 😼

That's what I figured too. RJ's disengagement might be his subconscious way of trying to keep school and his personal life separated. IMO, unless Jacob has reason to believe RJ is being abused or may harm himself, he needs to leave RJ alone outside of the classroom. Jacob may be well-intentioned but he's just creating another problem for RJ to hold at bay. In my state many charter schools have opened which do nothing but teach the kids how to pass the tests. In addition, parents can receive funds to pay the tuition to those schools. Turns out though that the ability to pass tests is not generally a marketable skill, or one that necessarily guarantees success in college.

Yeah, bus driver Billy was hot. I hope he'll be a recurring character. RJ has shot up like a sunflower. He's almost taller than Jacob now. "Thinking whitely." Oh, Janine, no. Yeah, Greg, who is this Angela person from GNC tech support? Barbara womp-womped Janine, lol. Savage. On the O'Shon front, I've also always thought he resembled a younger version of Shemar Moore. However, someone on reddit observed that he looks like Eagles quarterback Jalen Hurts wearing glasses. Now I want Quinta to get Jalen to do a cameo and have a scene with O'Shon, ha ha. Bonus points if the Eagles win the Superb Owl.

You're probably right. I often get annoyed by the feints this show uses and stop paying full attention.

Tommy just realized he was being watched by the drug cartel. Oh boy. Heh, Rick the cabaret owner thought Ainsley and Angela were strippers. And they weren't even embarrassed. Wow, Sheridan got the owner of the Dallas Cowboys to do a cameo. Jerry Jones had a chunk of lines to say read off a teleprompter too. Meh. Cooper is so sprung. Ariana will never be rid of him, especially after he got her a million dollar payout for her husband's death. Cooper's got his father's p-whipped genes for sure. Ainsley wants Ryder to lend his penis to the old folks home cause. He better make sure no one photos him and puts it on social media. Could ruin his impending football career. Yeah, paella is definitely not jambalaya. In some places that mistake would be fighting words. Angela was just looking to stir up controversy. (Meanwhile, I've eaten paella in Spain. Standing up to scoop from a central bowl was not part of my dining experience.) Look at Cooper wheeling and dealing for those oil leases. Out with the old landmen, in with the young new one. Was that a wolf or a coyote Tommy was staring at before his neighbor shot it? You'd think he'd never seen one before.

Finally catching up with Landman: The walls in Tommy's house are ridiculously thin. Ainsley has to act like hearing her parents have loud sex is no big deal. The entire family never met an interpersonal boundary they couldn't violate. Monty's had five heart attacks! How is Texan Don Draper still alive? At last a full sighting of Cami's face, lol. Is Tommy for real trying to pretend like Ainsley isn't moving her mama's footsteps? Ryder may not fcuk Ainsley but she will definitely fcuk Ryder. I would've expected Tommy to be more familiar with Mexican food. Apparently what Ariana cooked was the real old country stuff versus Tex-Mex. Wow, Ariana definitely held her own with Tommy. He left with mad respect for her. Yikes, what was that prehistoric toxic soup Ainsley and Ryder were swimming in? Whatever, I am so over Sheridan's anti-environmentalism rants. Rebecca thinks Cooper deliberately caused the oil rig to blow up. Risky move just to get a payoff for a woman Cooper didn't even know before the accident. She's reaching, hard, but that's what lawyers are paid for. "... an ass like a couple of feed buckets." 🤔 That was hilarious when those explosives went off all around the drug smuggers. But how dumb was the national guard guy to do such a crazy favor for Tommy?