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Geez, how old is Adam, 12? Adam: nonny nonny, boo boo. My dad's gonna buy your company and give to me. Tucker: over my dead body, son. And your father's. Adam: oooh, I'm gonna tell my daddy you said that! So sure enough Adam runs straight back to Victor, who for some reason is sitting around the house by himself, wearing a suit even though it's past his bedtime. Adam: Daaaad! Tucker said he's not gonna sell you his company so you can give it to me! He's a big meanie! Victor : yes, he thinks he's going to sell it to his son but I can put a stop to that. Adam: well hurry up! I need to impress Sally before she has my baby. Victor: before SallySpectra has what? Adam: um, nevermind. Apparently the Gland Pustule is booty call central for at least two of the Newman scions this evening. Nick was freshly leaving his while Victoria awaited hers. Nikki would be so proud. 🙄 Had to laugh at how Victoria looked all smug like she was the cat about to eat the canary which had obediently delivered itself to her mouth. But Nate basically told her, "Or so you thought. I'm faithful to Elena and I'm not about to get #metoo'd up in this piece." Sure, Jan. It's only Tuesday. Meanwhile, poor Elena ressembled someone who'd just driven over 50 miles of unpaved road on nothing but the rims. Yet Nate acted like she should be happy he came home instead jumping Victoria's bones like Vikki already assured Elena he would. (Oy, Elena better not be pregnant by this clown.) Audra told Tucker she's lowkey chasing Nate. Huh? Whatever, she's not worried about Elena but she considers Ice Queen Victoria formidable competition. Hmm. What I want to know is how Nate rates having three women after him. He ain't all that. In fact, All That points and laughs at him.

Sorry but I'm confused about this discussion of Sally's bras. Is she supposed to flash her naked breastesses on broadcast TV? If so, Janet Jackson would like to have a word. (Miss Jackson if you're nasty.) 😱 I think until recently on daytime TV an actress in a sexy scene would keep most of her chest covered by a sheet or blanket, but occasionally you could see they were wearing a strapless bra that was supposed to remain hidden. Now that bras have become fashion items the soaps can do product placement and actresses like CH can show off their tight bodies. And because there's always a relevant moment from Seinfeld, here's where in 1996 that show accidentally predicted the unabashed display of a bra:

Phyllis standing outside a popular restaurant, loudly discussing a criminal scheme, and mentioning her co-conspirator by name so anyone nearby could likely overhear her. Yep, makes total sense. 🙄 Look at Kyle having a rare moment of perception. It's entirely possible Diane increased her hysteria about Stark to rev up Jack's protective instincts. Jack is old-fashioned enough to think the best way to keep Diane safe is to marry her, RIGHT NOW. Yeah, Kyle, it's weird. Nate strolls into the hotel lobby like he's without a care in the world. Or a girlfriend. How did he know where Victoria was? Does his d!ck have GPS? I would be 100% glad never to see another boudoir scene between Sally and Nick ever again. And the soft porn theme music just makes it worse. Ugh. 🤮🤮🤮 Vikki and Nate almost ready to start fcuking right there in the hotel lobby. Lawdamercy. Elena, you better come get your man. One thing I'll say for MS, she appears to be having a blast cranking Phyllis' nutbaggery up to 11. Heh, hope Victoria has the presence of mind to ask for a room on a different floor than Sally or Adam's. She really doesn't want to be caught doing the walk of shame by either of her brothers. Loved the "bish plz" faces Lauren was making while Phyllis was shining Jack and Diane on. She might want to do her old friend a solid and tell him she strongly suspects Phyllis is pulling something.

Not to mention get arrested. You'd think his parole would've been immediately revoked once he got arrested in GC and taken to jail in Chicago. 🙄 Whatever, I'm assuming he's paid off his parole officer. Stark didn't go to Paris. That was a cover story he and Phyllis made up to help convince Diane and Jack that it was safe for them to return to GC. Kyle ran off and left his phone on the bar at the Gunky Potassium and Phyllis immediately picked it up and looked at the screen. She saw a text about some flowers Kyle had sent to up to Abbott cabin. So then she used a pay phone to call the cabin's landline and Diane answered. That's how Phyllis found out where Jack and Diane were, and she shared the info with Stark. Stark took Phyllis' word for it that Diane and Jack were at the cabin. He wanted to head up there and start some ish but Phyllis talked him out of it. She said it would be better if they lured the happy couple back to GC. So she told Summer and Kyle a lie about Stark going to Paris to look for J&D and those two mental giants sorta bought it. Kyle called a PI to find out if Stark really took a flight to Europe. Apparently Stark's name did appear on a flight manifest so Kyle told his parents it was safe for them to come home, for now anyway. Yeah, I don't know why no one thinks it's odd that Jeremy can just leave the country. Chance would probably want to follow up on that if he knew. I also don't know why Jack and Diane didn't at least confirm that Stark is no longer at the hotel. They know what room he's in so they could've just knocked on his door again.

Audra is hella messy. I love how she gets her little digs in with Victoria wrt Nate and Elena. Okay, all people of GC line up here. Those of you who are less resourceful than Phyllis in getting what you want, take two steps back. Uh, hold on there, Victor. Elena, are you trying to get Audra fired? You may want to keep her as a resource who can observe Victoria's ongoing behavior toward Nate. Ratting Audra out to him wasn't smart. But you know what isn't a long shot, Jack? Your son leaving his unsecured cell phone behind in a public place. Clearly Diane knows Kyle is a tool and that's why she was worried. How did it take Kyle so long to realize he didn't have his phone? Stupid. Sigh, Elena, there's a saying: trust, but verify. If Nate and Victoria aren't having an affair it's not for want of trying on somebody's part. Don't settle for his dismissive hugs and kisses. I think Audra basically clarified how Victoria could move to break up Elena and Nate and not feel an iota of guilt about it. That could be either dangerous or valuable info to have since Victoria is her boss. Tee hee, Elena and Vikki were having a smirk off. "I'm only humoring you." "No, I'm only humoring you." Wait, Kyle said his phone is password-protected. Oh come on, JG. Seriously? Dang, Victoria is lowkey savage. She was all but telling Elena that Nate is hers for the taking. Stop apologizing, Elena! Nate is thisclose to cheating on you and subconsciously you know it. And there's probably nothing you can do to stop it. Seems to me Diane and Jack would've confirmed Jeremy was no longer in his hotel room before they returned to the Abbott manse. Guess they don't know how easy it is to hack an international flight manifest. 🙄 Aw, Victoria, being a sidepiece is hard, huh? 😈

Richard Madden is my odds-on favorite to be the next James Bond so I was a little disappointed to see him doing some kind of generic American accent here. Whatever, not sure I understand why Amazon is going all in on this unless they expect it to do extremely well outside of the U.S. viewing market. Citadel seems to me like a very expensive version of the new TV series True Lies on CBS.

Who wore it best: Summer Newman last week in GC Or Duane Johnson tonight at the Oscars

And just like that Picard turned out to be right about engaging the Shrike. Of course. Resigoo. Kind of a silly tell for Changlings to me. Is that new for this show or was that always associated with them? Every party needs a pooper, Shaw. What a pointless time to bring up Locutus. "Bob's your uncle, Fannie's your aunt"? Never heard that version before. The nebula was full of space jellyfish. Whoo hoo. So J-L had already met his son and pretty much blown him off because he had no idea he existed. Gee thanks, Beverly. I'm wondering if it's going to turn out that Jack isn't Jean-Luc's son and Beverly has lied to both of them because Jack's real father cannot be revealed. But somehow the Changlings know and Jack is eventually going to have a Luke vs. Darth Vader moment.

How would Shaw not know the ship couldn't go to warp inside the nebula? It was weird Picard and Riker had to keep schooling him. And in front of his crew too. Beverly is a bit full of herself too. Between her and Jean-Luc, Jack is like genetically arrogant. So Beverly was trying to protect her son from the dangerous notoriety of being Picard's son. Unfortunately it turns out he's problematic all on his own. A Star Trek show is the last place I would've expected to see an anti-choice argument. Worf looks tasty with the white hair. Poor Picard, not having a fun time being Number One when Riker won't listen to him. Beheadings are on Wednesdays. Worf's got jokes. Ya blew it big time, J-L. Mon Dieu!

So Jamie Lee Curtis is still extra. Okay. Fake Colin Farrell and Brendan Gleeson were speakish Irish gibberish, right? Bowen Yang as George Santos is still perfect to me. I didn't think Jenna was doing so great with the cue cards in her opening monologue and thought she was noticeably nervous. Those gams tho. Wow, is Michael Longfellow that tall or is Punkie that short? He was towering over her in the School vs. School sketch. Meh, I could've used less Fred Armisen. 99.9% less. Ridiculousness is actually a thing? It looks like AFV for people under 12, with the scripts written by a chatbot using Urban Dictionary as source material. The Waffle House sketch was insane! Didn't see that ending coming. Well done. WU Colin Jost: some psychotic bitch. Eh, alleged thirst trap Franklynsuperstar needs to eat a sandwich or five. Thanks a lot for making me go look at those photos, SNL. Yeah, there's no way 45 trying to order a Negroni in a bar wouldn't go sideways, JAJ's imitation of Bob Dylan's cell phone on vibrate did make me bust out laughing. I liked The 1975's second song. Had never heard of them before. They sounded similar to the Jonas Brothers but less manufactured. Jenna was fine, if a bit hesitant to go all in IMO. I mostly liked her clothes. She has an excellent stylist.

Jacob said "less teachers" versus "fewer teachers." Eh, I don't think teachers would make that mistake, at least not ones with college educations. And then Mr. Johnson double-downed on it with "less moms" instead of fewer. Oy, it hurt my ears. I see Ayesha and Janine as two sides of the same slightly misforged coin. We really do need to meet the mom because she must be a whole different type of a lot.

Finally got caught up with this season so far: E1 Teddy stealing Franklin's money led to Louie and Jerome losing all their stash to Franklin, as well as access to their funds. So they can't pay Teddy and they have nothing to sell. He played himself. Oh Jerome, you done messed up bad. Franklin is not going to let what you did to his enforcer pass. And Louie pretty much set Jerome off by telling him Franklin pulled a gun on her. Is Louie trying to get Jerome killed, or at least injured enough to be sidelined? Cissy calling Franklin "Saint" was weird. He's her son. E2 Poor Black Diamond. That probably wasn't the way she expected to be killed. Jerome is completely losing it. It is mind-boggling to me that the DEA would be going after a CIA guy, even if he is dirty. I thought Leon had left the country with Wanda? Lol, he gave Louie and Jerome some origami. Veronique's mother speaks Chinese, in addition to French, Afrikaans, and Creole. That's interesting. She really is an international criminal. Franklin's not exactly the picture of mental health either, pulling a gun on someone in a public restaurant in broad daylight. Slippin into Darkness was perfect for the ending of this episode. E3 Wanda looks fantastic! So happy and healthy. So, did Wanda trace her roots back to Ghana because those might not be "her" people except in a relatively broad sense of the word. Africans forced into in the Middle Passage didn't just come from Ghana. Louie trying to be an equestrian because she thinks that's what rich people are supposed to do. How did Teddy know about the situation in Costa Rica? Listen to Franklin, Leon, and get out while you still can. You can't be Switzerland. The whole mess is fundamentally evil and you and Wanda cannot safely live in it anymore. E4 OMG, spray painting a human being. Recently there have been reports of that being done to an unhoused person so this seemed a bit anachronistic to me unless it was an actual thing in LA back in the day. It almost seems like Wanda coped better with the horrors of street life when she was high all the time. Why was Deon so threatened by Einstein wanting to go to college? Now Teddy suspects Oso. That won't bode well. How did the Cuban agent know Gustavo would end up in the bar that night? Was he following him? Geez, Gustavo's already a double agent. Now he's about to be a triple one, with the DEA, the CIA, and the KGB all trying to have him in play. Todd and the gang who literally couldn't shoot straight. But Franklin escapes again. Leon's back in with both feet now. Yikes. Deon's revenge will be brutal for sure. Was it really though? I got the impression Veronique and her mother knew more than what they told Franklin.

Of course Billy's gonna blow smoke up Chelsea's hiney about the video game she's developing. Luckily there's no such thing as a one-person focus group. There are several words I might use to describe Sally's life but "chaotic" would not be one of them. Apparently Nikki excels at projection. Sally said C-W has a widespread bunch of offices, restaurants, and hotels. Who knew? Meanwhile, if Sally needs access to a private jet, her baby daddy has one. And he doesn't have to ask anybody for permission to use it. 😏 Summer, you're the one creating chaos now. Nikki is the last person you should've told about Sally's pregnancy. It wasn't your news to spread and you knew your snobby grandma would flip out. Sharon's professionalism? Pshht, repeating this b.s. will never make it true, Show. A masked ball. Okay, are they recreating the historic Collonade Room set for this extravaganza? Not sure Nikki should be going behind Victor's back to get info on the McCall Unlimited deal. Michael works for Victor, not her and not NE, so she's sowing more family vs. business discord. Re the previews: oops, Adam, looks like your mouth is about to write a check Tucker won't cash. Let's go!

Ashley was pouring it out of a fancy bottle though, and it didn't really move like water when she and Billy swished their glasses around. Plus, ew, room temperature water? No reason to go to Society for that, they could just stay home and draw it from the tap. I dunno, I was just intrigued by what it could have been. Other than Victor the premium tequila drinker, these folks mostly knock back brown liquor, wine, or mixed drinks. Not to mention one designed by a middle-aged mom out in the wilds of WI with Chelsea's rap sheet. But she seems to think her personal experience and notoriety will sell the game and no one is arguing with her. So effing stupid, and IMO only slightly less dumb than Daniel's original Princess Whatever game that was supposed to impress Lucy.

No lies detected. 😏 Mando was looking kind of hapless though in this episode. Meh, not attractive. Over on reddit they were calling it the Cockroach Transformer, lol.

Oh FFS, Billy is ragging on Tucker now. Is there any man in GC he's okay with, other than Jack? TMW your business vs. family shell games come back to haunt you. Ruh roh, Tucker. Devon called you out. Billy said Tucker is an agent of chaos. Billy, have you met your girlfriend Chelsea? She's like a slow-moving human typhoon. What was that clear booze Ashley and Billy were drinking? Was it tequila or vodka? Could've been white rum I guess. Or gin. 🤔 Ehh, I've got a weird feeling about Tucker's offer to sell Devon the company yet retain a paid advisor role. He might not stay in his lane since he's used to having free reign on the whole road. Phyllis is so shady. She never stops lying to her kids. At least Summer managed to have her mommy's number today. Billy working at Jabot again. Oy. Be afraid, Jabot employees. Be very afraid. Is the Jabot cabin near a river or waterfall or something else loud? There was an odd noise both times Diane opened a door to look for Jack. The location is supposed to be remote so it probably wasn't a busy freeway. Aw, Diane fantasizing about her wedding to Jack must mean it isn't going to happen. Killer dress though. DreamTracì! Several references lately to people being able to change and overcome their troubled pasts. Guess that's a Y&R theme right now. Please, how is Chelsea an expert on navigating and healing interpersonal relationships? IMO she has generally moved through her life with blinders on, only fixating on her next mark and scheme. Today Crystal and Phyllis didn't speak, and passed each other in the Ghoul Parachute lobby like ships in the night. Yikes. Geez, why is Kyle so absent-minded? His guard should go up as soon as Phyllis enters the frame. And he needs use a lock on his phone. 🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳!!!!!!! I would pay cash money to watch Ashley put an old-fashioned street beatdown on Billy. Cash. Money. She doesn't have those genteel John Abbott genes.

It's my iffy understanding that the debt is Tucker's personal loans to try to keep the company afloat. If those loans get called in, he would have to sell MU--possibly at a bargain basement price--in order to make the payment because MU is his only asset that's valuable enough. MU itself is in okay shape, it just has a few bad parts that are dragging the rest of it down. Both Devon and Victoria have suggested jettisoning the bad stuff after they buy the company so McCall Unlimited can be returned to its former glory. Apparently the company would be quite valuable once the problems get sorted out. That's how Tucker is able to entertain offers to buy it; it still has exceptional goodwill in the business world. In fact, MU has the potential of becoming more valuable than NE or C-W. Victoria sees what MU could become, and that's why she wants to keep it under the NE umbrella and divvy most of it out to other divisions. Head off the competition. Adam also sees what it could become and wants to run it free and clear from Victoria's negative influence. Victor agrees with Adam's position--for now. Devon already has some of awareness of the problems inside MU, because when Tucker was in the ashram some MU employees did things which publicly hurt the company. Devon went in and straightened that stuff out but apparently the problems resumed after he returned to GC. He also sees MU's growth potential but he's wary of engaging with Tucker either personally or financially. I don't know how Victor thinks he can "take" the company from Tucker absent getting control of the debt. His involvement also makes the least amount of sense to me because he has Victoria trying to use NE money to buy MU. Why would NE buy a major company and then hand it off to a separate party (Adam) for nothing? That's a helluva gift and could have huge tax implications. Tucker couldn't ask Devon for a loan because they were estranged after Devon found out Tucker was undermining C-W and Jabot. It's too late now anyway because somehow Ashley bought the debt. Now Ashley is trying to use her ownership of Tucker's debt to force him to sell the company to Devon and heal their relationship. {Presumably Ashley expects Tucker to pay off the loans after he sells the company. Tucker can't give MU for free to Devon or anyone else, not unless Ashley forgives the loans.) Meanwhile, the Newmans are trying to find out what Ashley and Devon are up to because they think they're entitled to have MU and the Newmans cannot be denied. So far Ashley and Devon ain't scurred.

Not sure I understand why Adam would be wanting to get in on a takeover of Tucker's company. During their recent scene together I got the impression those two respected each other, though perhaps with caution. Victoria has all the nerve, showing up at Devon's place uninvited to stake a claim on McCall Unlimited. AFAIC Devon should've shut the door in her icy smug face. On his way back to the office to meet with Daniel, Nate must've stopped by a barber shop. His hair looked shorter today. Meanwhile, Nate has zero, zip, nada shame. He was actually trying to use Daniel to work Lily and Devon. Dummkopf, Daniel is not trying to be your tool. Heh, Devon was staring at Vikki like she had sprouted a second head. She stood in his home and talked at him like he's an idiot who was born yesterday. WTAF. Wait, I thought Abby had sort of made peace with Tucker? Today she acted like he was scum on the bottom of her shoes when he arrived at the Abbott manse to see Ashley. Lily, your business life is imploding because the C-W merger was a shaky prospect to begin with. You thought you were going to be running with the big dogs but it turns out you're mostly a yappy purse puppy. So now Victoria is going to battle against her father, Adam, and Devon for ownership of Tucker's company. Yawn. She just doesn't want Adam to be on her level, or possibly surpass her. Sure, Abby, your daddy thinks people can change...as long as their last name isn't Abbott. FOH with your Pollyanna nonsense. Tucker in those slim jeans. Aw yiss. 😛 Get it, Ashley. OMG, who would want to see Victoria's bony body naked? She'd put the porn industry out of business. This must've happened when Heather Tom was in the role.

Sharon becoming a therapist has happened completely off-screen. However, there have been relevant comments dropped into the dialogue along the way. At first she was just taking some psychology classes. Then it was mentioned that she'd completed her bachelor's degree. Later the audience was told she had earned her master's degree. And finally, not too long ago Sharon (I think) said she had clients who she saw at her office. The office is apparently not inside the coffeehouse. I don't know why whoever's been writing this stuff thinks having Sharon informally analyze people in a public, non-therapeutic setting gives validity to the claim she's an actual professional. Seems to me they're making a mockery of therapy. People tell Sharon personal stuff over coffee, assuming that it's in confidence due to her status as a licensed therapist, but then she turns around and gossips about them. The only person she doesn't do this to is Nick. Heck, more than once she's closed the coffeehouse and cleared the place out just because he showed up needing to talk, RIGHT NOW. And yeah, one would think Sharon's own history with severe mental illness would prevent her from being licensed to treat people. I don't know how that works IRL. But at the very least she shouldn't be analyzing people who she has or has had personal relationships with because IMO she cannot be objective. She's basically offering her biased opinions.

I finished watching this today, about the last 20 minutes or so. Right when Chris Rock starts talking about the incident at the Oscars something was clearly edited out. Does anyone was know what he said that Netflix removed?

Yes, it was, and I was surprised to learn on Worn on TV that it's a dress made to look like a skirt and top. Don't think I've ever seen that done with a leather bottom before. The top fabric has to be heavy and/or strong enough not to get stretched out of shape by the weight of the lower half of the dress. Anyhoo, nice find by the wardrobe people. (Or is JG doing that job now too? 😉 )

Holey moley, Sharon was being aggressively snarky with Billy today. I almost winced on his behalf. Almost. Summer's satin blazer dress. Cute but maybe not on her. Again, I don't think she has the legs for such short outfits. Lily could work it though. Your "objective point of view," Sharon? Girl, bye. You will always feel some type of way about the woman who tried to kill your late husband. And who later was lowkey attempting to pull him away from you. Poor Adam, unwelcome everywhere he goes lately. But he's probably the last person to be trying to warn Chelsea away from Billy. Kyle being willing to give Sally the benefit of the doubt about the circumstances of her pregnancy. Unexpected. 🤔 What crawled up Sharon's hiney this morning and left her in such a cranky mood? She went in on Adam the same way she did with Billy. Dang, Sharon, take a chill pill. Adam's right. Letting Sharon insta-analyze you seems to be the price of admission into her coffeehouse. It also must be against her professional ethics. Ugh, this viewer did not need another scene of Lily and Daniel propping Chelsea's new involvement in Omega Sphere. IMO Lily should resent how Chelsea inserted herself in Lily and Billy's troubled relationship, and balk at embracing Chelz in any way. Daniel giving Lily real talk about her dire situation with Devon. Also unexpected. And then Nate was revealed to be eavesdropping nearby. Geez, does he have ultrasonic hearing? Nick said he loves all of his children. Guess that includes the one he already stole from Adam. How thick is your head, Lily? Again C-W is not "your" company. 🙄🙄🙄

OMG, Summer, Harrison is still not your son. Stop it. (Free Tara!) But you're about to get a quick refresher from your biggest enemy on how parentage actually works. Jack has come a long ways with Diane, from "I will never forgive you" to "marry me." Diane is nothing if not patient. Diane must have a basic, cheap cellphone if she can't block Jeremy's number. Billy, Jill was interested in being a mother, just not one to you. It's like she saw the future and knew you'd turn out to be a complete waste of time. Lol, did Jack buy that engagement ring at the same convenience store where he picked up rhe champagne? The ring box didn't look very expensive to me. Bet that tiny bottle of water Jeremy pulled out of his mini bar for Phyllis cost $20. She didn't even offer to reimburse him for it. 🤨 Even a broken clock is right twice a day so dim bulb Summer having a clear take on what Sally's up to with Nick wasn't surprise. Stevie Wonder could see it. Aw geez, a super-duper secret plan to get Diane that the viewers are not privy to. That must mean JG hasn't figured out what it is yet, or it's laughably bad. Nick thought he was going to give Adam a come-to-Jesus moment but Adam schooled Nick speechless instead. Tee. Bleh, not a fan of Diane's engagement ring. The stone was too big for the band, IMO. Wonder whether Billy will ever find out he triggered Phyllis into joining Jeremy's big take down scheme against Diane? What a happy-go-lucky moron.

Both Adam and Nick will likely set up trust funds for the kid. I think Nick will want to keep looking like Sally's hero, while Adam will simply want to take care of his child's future. Higher standards like pushing a woman out of an ambulance? Or arranging for a woman to be sexually assaulted for weeks by her husband's doppelgänger and when called on it, asking if she'd been enjoying herself until she found out? Victor is put forth by TPTB as the face of Y&R now. Am I supposed to be invested in his decades of bad behavior? Ehh, not so much. It would not be unusual for someone who bounced around in the foster care system during their formative years to have difficulty forming appropriate boundaries and healthy attachments. Devon has probably needed therapy for a long time. Him and half the other characters. Shall we make a list of all the characters who've screwed their in-laws? Might be quicker to list the ones who haven't. If this is in reference to my original comment, I did not say longevity was a sign of popularity. I said it speaks to TPTB's satisfaction with the portrayal and acceptance of the character. Devon is not as widely loathed as he seems to be here or he likely would've been dumped from the show by now.