Lizzing

Is this the first season of BD (OG) where we haven't been introduced to the non-screen crew? There has got to be an engineer and a first mate on a ship this size. I guess we'll figure out the number of unnamed folks after the first tip meeting. I hope Lee is currently doing better than when this was filmed.

@Annber03 Yes to all of your post! Especially the dog woman--she SHOULD have called the cops and asked for a welfare check. The suddenly ended phone call, yet her car was still in the driveway at that time, Cal missing, and the doors being open all warranted a welfare check.

Regarding the 8/24/21 episode "The Evil That Watches" I have a question about the timeline of the murders that I can't figure out based on Dateline and a handful of articles I found on line. Based on the show, Calvin was staying home to await the delivery of the new washer in the morning. The delivery driver called his wife at work in the morning when Calvin didn't open the door. The dog lady called and then stopped by in the morning and saw the inside door open and thought it was weird, but then went home. So one could assume that Calvin was murdered in the morning. Pamela, Calvin's wife, keeps trying to call Calvin all day and then decides to leave work early to check on Calvin. On the way home, she calls her neighbor to go check on Calvin. From the police's investigation of the neighbor's house, he had just made dinner, so it is at the earliest, late afternoon. When Pamela gets home & sees the message on the machine from the dog lady, she calls dog lady back just after five (the call where Pamela yelped & the call ended). Everything written about the prosecution's theory of the crime was that Kit killed Calvin to stop Calvin from testifying in the court-martial trial. Fine, I buy that 100%. But they also theorized that Kit killed Pamela & the neighbor as collateral damage because they stumbled upon the crime scene. But that seems weird to me. I really, really want to know what the hell Kit was doing in the house from the morning until around 5. The clean-up wasn't great. There was no mention of torture. A guy with that many years of military training should be able to kill someone in under 6 hours---and it doesn't take long to shoot someone five times. So did Kit come back? If so, why? Or did he really sit in a guy's house he just murdered for hours on end? Did he really have another motive to kill Pamela? Was he really seen on base during the day? (Kit alleged he was there, but Dateline didn't show any testimony from the Army one way or the other.) If Kit's ex-wife really did have something going on with Calvin, I could see HER having a motive for killing Pamela...lying in wait and the neighbor just was wrong place, wrong time. And if the cops really cleared the ex-wife, why? Wouldn't the prosecutors have put on a rebuttal witness to fortify their position that the ex-wife had zero to do with it, and share why she was cleared? OK, I wrote a whole damn dissertation here....but Dateline's starting out Season 30 leaving me with more questions than answers. Keith usually is so much better!

What I find weird is the Aftershow on YouTube and Rinna is no where to be found. I get Erika is out, but why mouthy mouth Rinna?

The SHADE the producers put on Sandy! For most seasons they focused on Hannah sleeping in when she'd been on lates. Sandy goes to be at 8:15 and sleeps through the chef quitting and a staff blow-out. The first mate doesn't wake her up. (BC she's not in charge...the other 2 tip recipients are still unidentified(. And I haaaatte to say this as a woman. I WANT a strong woman captain. But sadly, Sandy isn[;t it.

Yeah, that's my point: we see 9 regularly: Malia, Z, David, Lloyd for the deckies, Katie, Lexi, Courtney for the stews, Chef Mat, and Sandy. Then there were the 3 dudes who we saw Ep 1 who are the off-camera people. That's 12. The tip division leads to the conclusion that (a) there are 15 people on crew or (2) Sandy's shorting everyone. I doubt it's #2. Ergo there are 3 people we have NOT seen at all working on the boat.

OK, stay with me here as this is a math-intensive quandry, but here goes: Usually the tip (and I do this nearly every ep) divided equally amongst the crew we see on the show, plus the ones that stay off camera but are introduced in the first episode. So, for this season we have 9 on-camera folks: 4 deckies, 3 stews, 1 chef, 1 captain (i.e,, 9 people) and 3 off-camera folks we met in the first episode, for a total of 12 people. The tip this time was $25,800, which Sandy said came out to be $1,718 per person. $25,800 divided by $1,718 equals just a tad over 15. SO WHO THE HELL ARE THE OTHER 3 PEOPLE?!?!?! Is there a whole shadow deck crew we don't see? A shadow captain? Is that why Sandy has time to reorganize the refrigerator? I don't see Glenn having that time (my fav captain). Lee may have time, but I doubt he'd do it. And I still want to know how close this was filmed to BDSY, because the Lady Michelle's crew was the crew they hosted on SY for the last episode and it was none of these people.

I'm loving this show and it needs a second season. But aside from that, Kevin said that it was Patty's fault for not bringing him a burger because Alison would never bring anyone a burger....when she did exactly that for Patty a few eps back. And Jeremy Jamm with a nearly shaved head was damn funny.

My take is that Kyle & Kathy now have an alliance, which Kyle will protect at any end. She's been working for this for years. So she'll throw anyone in the spotlight if it is not Kathy or herself. Sutton & Crystal buried the incident 3 or 4 eps back, but Kyle & Kathy started the Tomissina shite to keep it going. Sutton is too worried about being canceled and Crystal has no personality (I said she was Teddi 2.0, and that still remains--what else do we know about her but ED and having money from an old man, and that is not a personality) so it goes on. And if Kathy hasn't ever heard the term "hunky dory", she's not "sheltered" or "too rich", she's just an idiot. And should be institutionalized.

I hate that Bravo named it's deleted scene iteration of the episodes "Never Before Scene". It is a stupid pun that encourages poor spelling. Kyle's smaller nose calls more attention to her bad fake teeth. And Kathy's obvious eye surgery looks far too pulled and renders her looking like every poorly tightened face on Bravo. I wonder how many of them could unlock each other's phones by facial recognition. Conversely, I imagine Dorit has to update her phone's facial recognition fortnightly, given how much she changes her face. I did not recognize her in the opening credit shot of all 7 women--I didn't figure out it was her until they did the proper intros this week. And that satin dress did her no favors; I know she is tiny, but it makes her look like she's got a gut. Kyle's food looked awful, even if she hadn't burned the salmon. (Maybe 20 minutes was too long? I don't like fully cooked salmon, so if it isn't in sushi, it's maybe a minute per side for a portion that small when I cook it.) But then, most of these women don't really eat much anyway. The house on Lake Tahoe is impressive, but all I could think about was how great it would be for the now 5 women of NYC to stay there--it could be the first time ever those ladies didn't fight about rooms, as they could each have multiple rooms.

I really need Rinna and her bad acting gone, like years ago. And Jen Shah wore that Blanche's wallpaper suit better. Why is Kyle having surgery and styling to look more and more like LVP? And what happened that Mo is now asshole buddies with PK? Is Kathy on the show now to publicly revel in the fact that Mo is exposed as being super shady in buisness? Sutton apparently got the memo that bangs aren't her friend. That's one upside. The other is Garcelle. I so, so hope she goes after Rinna in some kind of way. This show always disappoints, so I have little hope, but maybe. I don't want all the drama being Erika's fake tears and the new gal going after Sutton. New gal is very annoying. She's very Teddi-ish.

LMGTFY https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_Man

I know the George Sr. back story from TBBT, but for the past season+, I've been hoping he faked his death, Georgie & Missy know, and only Mary & Sheldon think he's dead. Mary & Sheldon have been insufferable across both shows (though the actors' performances impeccable). Really, the only reason I keep watching this show is for Annie Potts.

Random thoughts: Given the Dallas shitshow, I was hardly bothered by Ramona referring to her white blonde lady as "help" and getting her name wrong. She can't keep hardly anyone's name straight, lacks verbal skills, and she didn't say "servant", so I'm counting it as a non-event. Of course Ramona is a million percent problematic (especially off-screen), but in this instance, it was just her normal schtick. Also, I'm pretty sure Michelle charged Ramona for the services provided and was paid by someone. Unlike Sonja's interns. Pickles may still be in the basement under the corn oil jugs. Given that I'm a child of the 80s and love all manner of BritPop, Ramona's Hamptons house reminds me of the house in Arcadia's "The Flame" video, my favorite video of all time. If anyone remembers that, I'll be astonished, as it's older than Leah. Speaking of, I have no clue how Leah wasn't a once & done. She was problematic before she was on the show, was terrible last season, and is worse this season if she's truly sober. I kinda think she's not drinking but not sober, or she's unmedicated and needs to be. I HATED the way Carole & Bethenny treated Jules, but I really want Ramona & Luann to treat Leah the same way--dismissive and infantalizing--because Leah is too old to act like a child younger than her actual kid, which she does. She's so awful, entitled, and full of her self, unlike Jules. Hell, her fashion brand is just a tiny bit better than Brooks Marks and she makes me wish Quogue was back. I'm hoping Eboni's association with Leah is just a convenient fiction for the show. So far, my opinion is positive of Eboni, aside from her association with Leah. I actually think an older (say 40s-ish) WOC would have been a better addition. But I'm still abiding by the Eileen Davidson Accord, and reserving judgment of the new cast member until 5 episodes in. The one clear absolute failing of this season is that there are only 5 main cast members. IMO the best season ever was S9, with 7 HWs. We need at least one more. I'm hoping Heather brings something to the show, especially if she challenges Leah. Leah's whole "ooh, I can't trust her because she talked about Luann doing coke on her podcast 7+ years after the fact" is total bullshit. As said above, anyone who watched that season knew there were substances floating around. Shit, Ramona openly--and often quoted by all--advised Aviva to take some Xanax. Zero substance-related secrets were revealed. And if Leah is, in fact, sober, she should not have a problem. LOL. NTL, these ladies still have my interest, whereas others have lost me.

I've just gotta say something that's been bugging me since last week: Dallas, the TV show, aired originally from 1978 until 1991. It wasn't a cultural juggernaut all of those years, but I remember watching it as a kid in the mid-80s. But I remember a lot of 80s TV, back when people weren't so concerned with "screen time"--which I think is absolute shite, given what the alternatives are. But whomever shot JR did NOT kill him! Also, zero people expect Kary to be still married to Eduardo. He was clearly Grammering her. And I am a sucker, but I believe that if Stephanie got away from Travis and went her own way, she's not be such a problematic snowflake.