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LOL @ superglue Laura, is that you?

They're both shit holes.

They're also known for doing dumb shit, so I don't think anyone should assume anything.

Not sure about that - Wendy Mericle said yesterday that the people it affects in Arrow are affected in a big way.

If only his issues stayed on his own show.

Will he ever stop being the worst? I need someone to know about what he did just so they can hopefully (finally) say WHAT THE EFF IS WRONG WITH YOU?!

Not sure which I hate more: Barry or time travel

I wrote that I thought you were "intentionally being obtuse," so no...I wasn't calling you an idiot. I think we're having this issue because you're responding to me without really reading what I wrote. I never wrote that they had a ton of awkward moments, I wrote that I thought we could possibly be in for a S3 rehash that would include some "uncomfortable" moments with the single person around the couple (which S3 *did* have), and some instances of O&F's relationship status being weirdly mentioned (because it was). We don't really need to continue this convo, because we're clearly having communication issues, haha.

I'm saying I don't want anything at all like S3, because IMO it wasn't mostly backburnered and was tough to take. And I kind of feel like you're intentionally being obtuse to argue with me, so we can just agree to disagree, haha.

I never said they had a ton of awkward moments? And I never mentioned having issues with any of the scenes I posted about. I was merely speculating that I thought we might be in for something similar if Felicity breaks up with her boyfriend around the 5th ep that's been mentioned so much. That Oliver might ask someone out on a date and Felicity might get wind of that right when she's getting ready to attempt a reconciliation, like what happened in Season 3, when he walked in on her kissing Ray. Then we'd probably get a few scenes where Felicity's around Oliver and the gf and there's tension, possibly followed weird mentions of O/F's relationship status or something, since their not being together was brought up multiple times, even when she was with Ray. Things very well may be different this time since I'm assuming no one is going to be claiming that they CAN'T have a relationship. So maybe it'll be great fun! Just preparing myself for the worst since I didn't find S3 relationship drama particularly enjoyable.

I meant pining and angst similar to S3 where we get an immediate reaction (like Oliver swiping everything off the table in anger), and then random uncomfortable moments (like whenever Oliver was around Ray and Felicity, along with the random convo about it, like at Digg's wedding, and all the other little moments it was weirdly brought up). I think it would wind up being a lot like season 3 was, romance wise. Happy to be wrong about it! I'm still working through a crack Flashpoint theory that B/F start dating in 2x10 that erases everything that's happened w/Oliver and Felicity and that's why they're trying to get back to S1/S2 status per MG. Because I enjoy wasting time on spec that will be wrong, haha.

This is my favorite part: These two people were literally a step away from getting married. So of course this show is gonna be like, "the last two years of bullshit romantic angst we put you through? We're gonna pretend that never happened." And then they're probably gonna just...do it again, lmao. That's so Arrow!

Putting on my hack writer hat, I'm going to venture a guess that if Felicity's BF isn't Flashpoint Barry, it's going to be the DA. It puts Felicity and boyfriend in Oliver's proximity since they'll both be at City Hall, and allows Oliver to actually see them as a couple for max angst (will Felicity bring new BF a surprise romantic lunch? Suspense!). It adds the tension of Oliver having to work with the dude and play nice, and then later we can have Raypoint, when we find out that DA actually has a vendetta against the Green Arrow/Oliver Queen, which makes for more tension because evil ex situations are pretty awkward. Except this time the dude doesn't electrocute poor Roy and get over it an ep later, he actually is legit murderous and stuff.

I think we'll have a breakup with Felicity and her BF, and a desire to make up with Oliver, who will be moving toward a hook up with a new GF, reporter or whoever. And it'll be some kind of a repeat of Oliver walking in on Felicity and Ray in S3, only reversed, because this show really needs less romantic angst and drama, so I bet we'll get more of it. Unless Felicity's BF is Flashpoint Barry, then...I'm not sure how it goes, because I don't think that would last beyond a couple of eps. Maybe it's pretty much the same with Felicity wanting to make up with Oliver, but him seeming to move on. Or maybe for once they won't do the predictable thing, and it will be the beginning of a make up. (Laughing at myself for even thinking this is a possibility!)

What does it even matter? Paul Blackthorne's a regular, and he gets about a total of 10 minutes of screen time. Barrowman got about an hour last year. Doesn't regular status just mean she has to make herself available whenever they need her? Someone will likely tweet about her being on set, so anyone who cares about seeing her will know when and where she's appearing. Problem solved.

No, I don't think they're mocking her. I think mockingly saying "hashtag blessed" is a pretty common thing to do. At least it is 'round my parts.

Yeah - it seems to be a joke with the cast. They mentioned it in a video or two that came out this weekend.

If you have to post Notes screen caps to explain yourself...don't.

I can't wait to see what that is. Without Barry coming over and outright explaining it (and maybe he does, I'm not counting that out), I'm not even sure how they could do it. Unless we get a "previously on Arrow and The Flash" and they show Barry's stupid fucking ass running back in time? We've already seen it once during the last crossover, so I guess people might understand? And then they'll show the new stuff, and whatever doesn't match up I guess we're supposed to understand that? Seems like a raging dumpster fire in the making, haha.

I made a similar post here (about five above yours) about the ripples - which is what I thought we (as a group) were discussing. That's why when you said you thought Flashpoint wouldn't last more than an episode, I got confused! :) In the TVLine interview posted today, WM wouldn't name who all Flashpoint affects, but said it would affect them in a BIG way. I just don't see how they could set up these big changes for however long the ripples last, and then take them back? We'd be watching an AU that doesn't matter for however many episodes. That's why I got the feeling that whatever the ripples that Barry couldn't fix were would be permanent.

*Key information that you left out of your original post.

But those ripples are exactly what we're talking about? I'm so confused right now.

LOL, that's exactly what you wrote. Although from the EP's comments about the crossover, it's debatable whether anything's actually going to happen on Supergirl or whether Supergirl's just going to come over to the Flarrow shows.

So, you think she's gonna be fully back to Black Canary by the 8th episode? Can I have some of what you're having?

If Flashpoint is resolved by 3x01, then why would it be affecting anyone on Arrow?