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"I'm only worth $5?!" "Million" "I only make 40,000 a year...maybe I should kill myself." I laughed out loud at that part! And maybe a little at Liam getting mowed over by an SUV. I may be in the minority, but I haven't disliked a single episode this season. It helps that the group dynamics change with each episode, no two people are grouped together from one episode to the next. We had the Hale cousins working together to find the Budhist wolves and even got a little teaser into how werecreatures age (very slowly, apparently? do they age at all? Are they immortal like the Underworld lycans are?). I loved how Derek still randomnly roams the high school, harrassing underaged supernaturals. And also how Malia just straight up walked out of class. Does Derek know that they're related? Or is the list going to be what blows the top off that secret? (totally called her being Malia Hale on the list and not Tate) But Lydia/Parrish/and Stiles were my favorite. Parrish is slowly moving up my character list. I'm sad to see Meridith go, but happy to see that Lydia and Stiles rightfully felt guilty about it. They pushed someone they knew was fragile without thinking about how it would turn out -this is a pattern with the entire McCall pack. They act without considering the consequences to people outside of their immediate circle. We saw a glimpse of that with Malia last season when she called them out on turning her human and then basically forgetting about her or even considering that she never wanted to be human in the first place.

I'm thinking it's either Sherif Stillinski or Papa McCall.

Here's the mid-season preview: (idk how to embed here so....)

I think Teen Wolf for MTV is kind of like Arrow for the CW: predominately female, but higher male viewership than you'd expect. I'd imagine 60-40 maybe? I know quite a few guys that watch TW (and Arrow) Yea, now I think it's just all slash (as far as I've seen). I agree halfway with you. I think it really depends on the fandom, for sure. But people are usually more accepting of canon pairings in general and brush aside purely fandom generated ones to the side.

I don't remember the healing part, I'd have to go back and watch it. But I agree! He was way too quick to kill the mute, and while Peter isn't opposed to murder, I doubt he'd have killed the mute without thinking about the fallout. He's all about getting their money back, but he could've atleast gotten a million of it back from The Mute (and now 750k from the Baby Assassins). I'm sure that would've kept him afloat while he squatted with Derek in the loft.

They'd never go there, but I'd be more than okay if they did

We might be asking for too much....

Okay...just throwing this out there: does anyone else think that Peter is somehow stealing Derek's powers? In one of the sneak peaks, Derek makes a remark about how much stronger Peter seems....it could tie into the end of 3a when Peter killed Jennifer/tricked Derek into giving up his alpha status to heal Cora. Peter is always planning the long (smart) game. Anyone else think Malia's going to find out about Peter from the list? Like, when they decode the last third of the list she'll be on there as Malia Hale instead of Malia Tate?

I have one...but Imma take it to the spoilers/spec thread

I think Lydia's pretty safe for now. She's rarely ever alone (Malia was playing bodyguard for her this episode and most of this season she's either been with Kira, the McCall pack, or with the police) and would get warned that you were coming. Scott's pack is hard to kill because they tend to roll in pairs all the time. Stiles is always with Scott (who can take care of hisself now, while dishing out sassy side-eye in the process). Kira....I just wouldn't fuck with Kira regardless, and I think she should be worth more than she is on that list. And Malia's not even on any list we've seen so far (neither is Peter, for that matter. This is all feeds that theory I keep seeing!), but I don't think she'd hesitate to kill or seriously injure Violet or Garret if they came at her. She and Kira are the muscel of the group for a reason. I was confused why she didn't kill her as well. But then again, she seemed more like a cornered animal than a real fighter? They tend to lash out until they have a means of escape. But her pack might be in some other part of the Beacon County and not in Beacon Hills, like Sherif Stillinski said. Beacon Hills is Hale family/Scott territory, so maybe Hill Valley is the other pack's stomping ground? I hope this means that Lacrosse guy's alpha will be coming to look for him since, according to the sneak peek . But little points: Points to Holland for her work this episode. I loved how you could see Lydia slowly starting to unravel as the episode went on. LOL at Malia being honest as to why she wanted Lydia to figure out the other two keys, to find out if she's on these lists as well. And I'm all for her growing concern of Lydia. I need another female Brotp on this show, and would love if all the girls became friends. Lydia needs a friend since she lost Allison. Scott's face when he turned on Violet was hilarious! Equal parts anger and annoyance. Is Peter hmmmm....I think I'll take this one to the spoiler/spec thread Garrett showed his hand a little too much for me (and it might just be Teen Wolf's penchant for the dramatic for dramatic's sake) Don't tell people you live in a neighborhood that's being developed and no one lives in. Did they kill the blonde wolf the same night as the party? And how the hell is Garrett driving if he's only a freshman?! I hope Parish is something cool like a Necromancer (like someone above suggested)! Like a nicer, male version of Anita Blake, please.

Actually I didn't. I wrote what I thought. I didn't realize actual thinking implied effort, but...okay. You got me. I tried.

I would say that most of my post wasn't directed towards you. I think in an earlier post I admitted that you were right and that Jamie and Cersei weren't the best example...or at least I did in my head. I think I was more making an allusion to that scene because the writers/directors didn't mean it to come off the way it did in the final cut. The actors even came forward and said that they hadn't acted it out in a way meant to be rape (and it wasn't rape in the book...just weird in everyway you could think of it being weird.). If I came off as attacking I apologize. I was trying to explain why, to me, that scene didn't come off as being dub/con and I might have gotten very intense with it. The villifying Shelley was more of a response to tumblr.

I was responding to posts that said their was dub/con based on Stile's reaction. And on this board since it's the Malia board it's all I see....(also don't go on tumblr. Don't ever go on tumblr. Actresses (mostly Shelley and Holland) are getting called fat and it's made me very defensive. Tumblr is worse than the Youtube comment section) Oh I know! We all bitch about something or other on this show (same as defending), if we didn't we probably wouldn't be watching anymore ;-) Let's not point out a tree for being a tree in a forest. Meaning lets not point out a badly written character on an MTV show of badly written characters. Or just agree to disagree. What I'm saying is, specifically, that I like Malia and I like what I've seen of Stalia so far (and so do a lot of the paid reviewers of the show....who are also quick to point out the head scratchers in her plot. And apparently a good portion of the viewing audience, non fandom, likes her as well.) You don't because you say she's badly written and that's fine. I like her in-light of her character plot holes and I like that Dylan has someone in Shelley (being an daytime Emmy nominee) that he can act against. I think Malia is funny and adorable. I find nothing dub/con-y about their relationship. You and Ashima do and that's fine. We can argue about it until we're blue in the face but neither of us are going to change the other's mind.

I honestly didn't put much effort into it. I took tv production classes in high school and had a media studies minor in college. I was always taught to watch things and interpret them. Film and television is art, which is why people have varying opinions on it. I can look at something and take it for what it is. I know that this is a show that is on MTV, so it's probably going to have some issues. Baring that, nothing that I've explained (outside of me adding in my coaching experience) was anything I didn't see in the show. That's why I try to give examples from the show when I state my opinions. Carter has said that her birth mother doesn't try to make a connection to her, so why should she? Her birth father has made effort, shown by scenes in the show, one being that she felt safe enough to call him when she'd screwed up and gotten herself in trouble, and from things Carter has said. Carter always felt loved and cherished by her kidnapper, which is why she feels loyalty to her, as told by Carter in the show. Taking all of that into account, I just said that I can see why Carter, as a 16-year-old girl, acts the way that she does. She's acting out. It happens. Teenagers are notoriously difficult. /shrugs

That was a really messed up thing that the GR did. Now I understand why people are extremely hostile towards them, they kind of deserve it

I think her point is that Derek and Stiles were beyond antagonistic towards each other. A lot of times in their earlier interactions, Derek barely restrained himself from physically accosting Stiles. And I'm pretty sure he slammed Stile's head against a steering wheel for being a smartass. Now if we switched genders with that (Stile's being female) people would be up in arms! But because it's two guys, it's alright. This to me is akin to people complaining about the Tom Ford campaign where he advertises a cologne scent by having a bottle of it stuff between a female model's breast....but don't take into account that he has male counterpoint where there's a male model with the cologne bottle positioned between his spread butt cheeks (sorry for the graphic image, I just had a group discussion about the sexual objectification of models as a whole vs female models only.). I gave the examples of Caroline and Damon (where she is very visibly in tears afraid of him, very vocal about not wanting to have anything to do with him but he ignored her and compelled her not to be afraid of him...then proceeded to have sexual relations with her. Same thing another character, Katherine, had done to Damon's own brother.) That to me is a case of dub/con. But, to be honest, you're going to get stories full of potential dub/con when dealing with supernatural characters interacting with human characters. It's a thing you have to either be aware of when watching/reading things like this. But back to Malia, nothing in their relationship screams dub/con in that Malia would force Stiles into something he very vocally told her he wasn't okay with. They don't tell you that on the show, they actually show you in the next two episodes. With her begging Stiles to go away because she doesn't want to hurt him or when they were studying and he slid her off of them so that she could go back to studying. Even after he initiated the kissing, she pulled back and reminded him that he wanted to study first. On a show like Teen Wolf, you can't point out one character being badly written without pointing to the other long term badly written characters on Teen Wolf. If Jackson's family was so rich, then why did they live across the street from the Lahey's? Why was Jackson so adverse to saying "I love you" if he grew up in an adoptive household that seemed to love and care for him? Hell, they knew he'd been kidnapped because of the things his kidnappers (Scott and Stiles) sent them in a text and immediately went to the police. Was it because adopted children are subconsciously unhappy and unfulfilled (not the case at all most of the time)? /hand wave Or how about Lydia. She's supposed to be this math whiz genius with the highest gpa she could get in high school (the season 1 episode with the parent teacher conferences)....why is she still in high school? People as intelligent as they're trying to tell us Lydia is usually get skipped a grade or two. She should be done with school. Unless they're trying to tell us that she is technically done with school and just chose to stay with people her age (which can and does happen). It would account for why there have been a few scenes where she's reading books in classes/for classes that have nothing to do with said class (or is in a completely different field altogether.) But then why haven't they told us? How does she know what about a Mongolian draw, but didn't point out to Allison that she still wasn't doing it? So is Lydia only like a walking Jeopardy player or a true genius? I still have problems believing someone as ambitious as she is would be wasting her time in high school but.... /hand wave. Or why is Derek even tolerating his uncle Peter at this point? Peter killed Derek's older sister who was also, I'm assuming, his alpha. (Peter killed her so that he could become an alpha. Teen Wolf lore says that to be an alpha you have to kill an alpha, Scott McCall excluded.) Not only did Peter kill her, he ripped her in half...pretty violent way for someone you loved and who was part of your pack to go. Yet all we get from Derek about his uncle is "We don't like you." Cora said that losing a member of your pack is like losing a limb. Not only did Derek lose his alpha, he lost what he thought was the last of his family. /hand wave Or Allison (RIP) who became a bad ass all in the span of less than a year (in actual Teen Wolf time, from Lacrosse season to Lacrosse season.) Yes, we know she was pretty good with a compound bow before Teen Wolf started, but we have her in season 3b whooping up on paid bodyguards? Bodyguards in those positions tend to be ex-military and very well trained....for years. A 17-year-old girl, no matter how well trained, would be no match for them even with the element of surprise on her side. We're almost expected to believe she's Alexandra Udinov level of badass (I say her and not Nikita because Alli and Alex were similarly aged) . /hand wave Malia lived as a coyote from the age of 8 (where most children have a firm grasp on their language and an outline on human interaction rules/customs)to the age of 16. We don't see her again for a month or so at Eichen house where she still acts on instinct but she has a firm grasp on the English language. Not a big stretch considering she could speak in fluently at one point in her life (it's easier to teach people a language if they once spoke it or something similar to it.) and she's a were-creature. You could fanwank that being a were-creature sped up her recovery time considerably. (In season 1 Derek healed fatal wounds in a few days. Liam's leg healed the same night Scott bit him, the bite healed completely the day after.) She's still not 100% on everything, but they've made a point in showing her emulating other people. For example, when she and Scott were fighting the Berzerkers, she paused long enough to see what he was doing before she tried to do the same. Another one would be her watching Kira's reactions at Lacrosse tryouts and then learning to copy them. And before it's said, her "Do-over" outburst is something an 8 or 9 year old would do. Now, onto her punching Stiles in the face for his part in turning her human when she never wanted to be human in the first place. Honestly, it was well deserved. They turned her back, primarily, to help Big Stilinski solve a case and help him keep his job. They never came back to check on the girl to see how she was doing. Stiles was super surprised to see that she was even there. Basically, they shattered her entire world and then bailed to let her pick up the pieces on her own. The writers did, however, tie back into that with her inability to control herself during a full moon (it was because she still feels guilty for killing her mom and sister). My point? All the characters on Teen Wolf are badly written on the outset, but they've been developed nicely in spite of it. For the most part. Teen Wolf is a fluff summer show that is full of potholes and things you usually have to handwave, but it's entertaining. It's only meant to be entertainment not win Emmy's or Golden Globes. Don't point out one badly written character just because she's new and you don't like a relationship she's in. Tl;dr version? Teen Wolf isn't known for having well constructed characters/story lines. This is a show on MTV not HBO, it ain't gonna win a Golden Globe anytime soon...if ever. Don't point out a tree for being a tree in a forest.

I don't think she's really wanting to go there yet and that's actually very realistic to me. At her age, she doesn't have the capability to think like that. We can all claim till we're blue in the face how we would act if we were in her situation at her age, but then I'd like to point out that age old saying that you don't know how strong the storm is until you have lived through it. People react to loss (in Carter's case, this is a loss) in many different ways. Right now Carter is angry and dishing out blame, Elizabeth is the easy target to her anger and blame because she's there and Carter's relationship with her is nowhere near perfect which is as much Elizabeth's fault as it is Carter's. But Carter made a really good point that Elizabeth didn't even try. We see the dad making an effort (his ulterior motives non-withstanding because Carter doesn't know about them like we do.) but Elizabeth not so much. I coach teens and kids alike, and their coping capabilities when faced with things in their lives being upended (and I'm only talking divorce or finding out one of their parents cheated on the other. A parent going to jail...) are nowhere near where we'd all assume they would be.They're also not 100% capable of seeing things outside of their perspective (which is why they're not an age group known for the empathetic capabilities. Books garnered toward their demographic have very almost self-insert esque main characters.).Just keep that in mind when judging Carter. Teenagers are very dramatic and feel things at a deeper level than an adult might.

But there is no dub/con at all, is what I was trying to say. In the very next episode they show that Stiles is very capable of telling Malia "No" as well as her having the ability to listen to him. The way he told the story was more of a "I'm tired because I didn't get any sleep last night (consensual things happened) and I'm trying to hurry up and tell you this story before we get to class because we're probably late already" kind of way. IDK, maybe I'm a little sensitive about the way female characters are talked about in fandom as opposed to male characters. Spike tried to rape Buffy and there was serious dub/con going on with Damon and Caroline but we're expected to forgive because they had a tough life and just needed someone to love them? Maybe I don't see the dub/con going on because Stiles only seems scared of Malia the way some men irl are "scared" of their significant others (see Cory and Topanga BMW, Chandler when it comes to Monica and making messes on Friends, Marshall and Lily HIMYM, or Claire and Phil on MF.) in that he doesn't want to make her angry, but he's also not scared to/may do it on accident and then it's played for comedy. And "little spoon" is a cuddling term not a sex term. In a heterosexual relationship, men are usually the big spoon. Her making him the little spoon was also played for comedy. She lived for so long as a coyote that she doesn't understand the gender norms, ha ha. She emasculated Stiles because of it ha ha. If anything, people should be angry that they're trying to say that men can't be the little spoon and enjoy it. And to be honest, I wasn't taking it even a little bit too far with fans already talking about going up to Shelley Hennig at Comic Con asking her how it feels to play an abusive character. Or talking about how Stiles needs to be saved from Malia. There are people who are trying to make her out to be a horrible person because of this. (Let's not even mention that these are the same people who see Derek, Malia's maybe cousin, shoving Stiles up against a wall and threatening to tear his throat out with his teeth is "OMG sexual tension."). I would like for people to stop vilifying female characters/actresses. They did the same thing to Allison (sending Crystal Reed hate messages on her twitter and Instagram) when she was, justifiably from her warped perspective, angry with Derek Hale and willing to kill anyone (except Scott) who got in her way of avenging her mother.

Oh, I understand the cable thing (it's super expensive, but I'm spoiled) that's why those free sites are my fav...I just don't always like linking them? A good number of Supernatural shows have gay love storylines. Though it's pure sugar, True Blood even has a love triangle with two men and a female with one of the males being in the middle. Then there's Lost Girl who's main character is bisexual (and has relationships beyond sex with males and females). Then there's Torchwood with Jack Harkness. I promise I'm not trying to dismiss you and your want to have a prominant LGBT on Teen Wolf (Hell, I'd like to have a black character that doesn't get killed off/we actually learn about their home life.), I'm just saying there are a good number of decent shows with LGBT leads...I think there's even a link for shows that have them...if I can find it, I'll link you. I think Sterek is only big in fandom though, and fandom to viewership is like real viewership to the Nielson rating system. There's a wide margin for error But there's no reason to believe that Derek is either. And while Jeff is out and proud, he still has to answer to network excecs....Maybe he really did have plans to make Stiles bisexual and they nixed it. Maybe he really was considering Sterek but found out the actors weren't into actually playing it out on screen? There are a lot of young, male actors who won't play gay because they're told it could pigeon hole their careers. It sucks...but it's one of the reasons Matt Bomer wasn't Clark Kent in the newest Superman movie as he is an out and proud actor. I would never call anyone delusional. I was a Harry/Hermione shipper in the HP fandom....that's all I'll say about that, lol! Oh I know. I'm more interested in Malia's relationship with Mr. Tate than I am with her an Peter. (I'm more interested in what I've heard about Malia and Derek's relationship than I am with her and Peter's. Derek does seem kind of thirsty for family. Might be why he latched onto Scott and it's hinted that was a contributing factor for why he turned Boyd, Erica, and Isaac. Pack aside.) We still don't know Stile's first name. And I always assumed since season 1 that Derek had a trustfund/insurance money. He had a nice car and wore leather jackets. That's like tv prototype for bad, rich boy. This season they all but confirmed it with the bearer bonds. Wait. Ian and Holland dated for real? I thought that was just a rumor (like her dating Colton, who always came off to me as someone in a glass closet wrapped in a rainbow flag.) Wow....season 2 kinda makes more sense now. PS. I miss Allison too.

We have though. She's explained how she felt numerous times. "I feel like I'm an elephant but everyone's telling me uh no, you're actually a giraffe" (paraphrasing). She's actively looking for her mother to, I'm guessing, run away with her. It's why she has that bookbag packed and hidden in her closet. I think she's already decided that she doesn't want to stay with them, so why try? She's going to be leaving soon any way. And this episode just fed into that delusion for her: Lori's planning on comming to get her again.

I think you're looking at it from an outsider's perspective though and not from Carter's. She lived 90% of her life with this woman who clothed her, fed her, put a roof over her head, spent time with her (she was going to ditch her friends in the first episode to keep hanging out with her mom...as a teen), and loved her. I would take her years and years before she could ever wrap her head around the horrible thing that Lori did. Because while it was horrible for her bio family, it wasn't for her. And to add salt to the wound, Elizabeth is actively trying to hunt this woman down and not being subtle at all about it even after Carter told her how she felt. So no, I think Carter is behaving how a 16-year-old would in that situation.

That still doesn't take away from what I said. Push for Jeff and co to find a compitant romantic plotline for Danny. And, as Yitzhack stated below and I mentioned above, if you want a great Gay/Bisexual romance, maybe you should pick another show since TW isn't doing it for you. (We all can agree TW is not always on point in the romance department and how they set it up.) Or check out Netflix show Hemlock Grove (another supernatural show about werewolves...though it's not for the fainnt of heart) where the writer has explicity stated that the entire point of the show is the slow burn/build up love story between the two leads Peter and Roman. I've never seen Stiles/Derek as more than having that odd copple/Grumpy Old Men dynamic between them. Actually, Grumpy Old men are a good comparassin to Sterek in that they have a spark in their interactions, but it isn't romantic in the slightest. If you choose to see it that way or want it that way, that's what fandom and fanfiction.net is for. Those of us that lived in a time when the 4th wall was firmly in place and the writers didn't have to deal with hordes of teens bombarding them on twitter trying to influence their story. As seen on TVD, it can really ruin a show. (Not talking about ships here, the storyline where Damon was supposed to be the one to take the cure and turn human but the writers saw that everyone and their mother could see it going in that direction, so they decided to change it last minute. Then season 5 happened.....) So are words like "chemistry". Though you're right, I should've worded it differently Again I'd have to respectfully disagree. Do I think there's enough representation for everyone on tv? No. Not in the slightest. (But I think Asians and Native Americans get the short end of the representation stick everytime.) There has been a big push for LGBT characters on network television (Heck! On last night's Graceland, ) So is there an adequate amount of representation? Hell no! We live in a society that tends to cater/be run by straight, caucasian males. I doubt there will ever be adequate representation for anyone who isn't a SWM. (Female fans don't help much with their ofter viceral hatred of female characters, or them using them as props and consolidation prizes for their fav SWM character.) But to say that their is none or that very litte? You might want to broaden your viewership. I don't mean this as an attack but a genuin suggestion. Premium cable usually never steers you wrong especially if you're looking for the M/M variety. (or those sites I won't put on here where you can watch TV shows for free) This! All of it! You say what I'm trying to say so much better than I do. Would it be out of character for Stiles to be bisexual? No. He's always been portrayed as an open character when it comes to sexuality. Derek, on the other hand, has a type. We've seen nothing of him ever questioning wether he preferes sausages to tacos...or even wants a sausage. And you might say that "we just haven't seen it" and to that I say "well...this is a tv show. They have to show us something". If they don't, it turns into a Willow thing where long time viewers of the show sort of side-eyed them on making her straight up lesbian instead of bisexual. She was in love with Oz. Had a long time crush on Xander that heated up and resulted in her cheating on her love, Oz. When you watch a tv show, you go off of the things the writer and directors show you (which is why sometimes there's contention btw what viewers saw and what the writers meant. Sterek doesn't fit this contention, because your average-non-fandom participating viewer doesn't see Sterek like online fandom would have you believe.). When they suddenly do a 180 on a character's characterization with no prior explaination (read: Elena Gilbert) it's very jarring and sometimes off-putting. It's all about perspective when it comes to shipping. Others may see Sterek as OMG EPIC ROMANCE, but all I see is "They're my siblings when we're all stuck in a car with each other for a very long time". Just like I go "Awwwww" with Stalia, and others may go "Yeck! She's an abuser!" It's all relative.

But there are plenty of bi (and homosexual) representation on most of the biggest/highest rated tv shows. There's Nolan on Revenge -shown in serious relationships with men and women; Oberyn Martell on Game of Thrones; Bo on Lost girl; Callie Torress on Grey's Anatomy; Piper on Orange is the New Black; Allison Dilaurentis on PLL; Sarah Lance on Arrow; Dorian Grey (though I think he'd be more Pansexual than bi) and Ethan Chandler (more sexually fluid?) on Penny Dreadful; etc. And as for gay characters, Mitch and Cam on Modern Family are married with a daughter, Cyrus and his partner on Scandal, Lena and Steph on The Fosters are also married with kids; Emily Fields on Pretty Little Liars; Jack Harkness on Torchwood; Loras Tyrell and Renly Baratheon on Game of Thrones; Captain Ray on Brooklyn Nine-Nine; Nasir and Agron on Spartacus; Amy on Faking It; Cosima on Orphan Black; Max Blum on Happy Endings (Awesome representation as he was unlike any other gay male character on tv); Danny, Mason, and Ethan on Teen Wolf etc. Most of the shows that I named have consistently higher viewership than teen wolf and are critically acclaimed. I would agree that Teen Wolf is a little light on the representation, but maybe people should campaign to get the canonically gay characters more screen time instead of forcing a relationship between two characters that are only ever in the same room because of their mutual affection for the main character (Scott). Whenever I see people tack the "representation" thing on Stiles or Derek, I am forever pointing at the gay characters on the show and saying "fight for them if you want a gay/bi character to get better development/more screen time on your show!" Cause there's infinitely more representation on tv now than there has been...just not on Teen Wolf. Oh I agree with the other poster that it was more in jest. And then it was more of a "we see you and we appreciate you so here's a bone" type of thing. They did it with Fayana (Shelley Hennig and Phoebe Tonkin's characters) on The Secret Circle. This all has to do with perspective, I think. Some people saw it as tongue in cheek and others thought they were being serious maybe?

This! I'm surprised there isn't a bigger presence of Scott/Stiles (skittles?) shippers. There is an opinion by some (a big some) that it's a race thing...since Scott isn't white. And slash ships tend to be between white males and not so much POCs or interracial...but I think that's too heavy a subject for a fandom for a light show about teenage werewolves.

I honestly hope Jeff throws a curveball and The Benefactor turns out to be Greenberg. He's trying to kill off all of the supernaturals because they stole his thunder on the lacrosse field. But lets be real, it's probably Parrish conducting his own version of a supernatural Highlander (there can only be 1)